This Abandoned Nuclear City Is Trapped Under Ice, What Happens If It Thaws?

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@stavros8410
@stavros8410 6 жыл бұрын
What do you mean who should be responsible for the clean up? isn't it pretty obvious? its a US military base..
@stavros8410
@stavros8410 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou No, its not a big difference, it was mentioned in the video too, it was more so the US can host its warheads closer to Europe. You don't just go shit in someone's bathroom and then just don't flush the water just because it isn't your toilet..
@stavros8410
@stavros8410 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou Yeah, I am sure US doesn't really want bases all over the world so they can exert their influence.. Sure... You do realize that Europe is basically the Front? if it is conquered the next step is US being invaded.
@stavros8410
@stavros8410 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou Its not point arguing with you, I keep saying something you keep saying other things that have nothing to do with what we discussed previously. You don't seem to understand that US has no reason to keep their army in their yard and they keep it all over the world, including Europe. Few comments ago you were saying that US did everything and EU did nothing, now you keep telling me stories of NATO and the countries that take part in it. If you paid more attention in the video you would see that the reason why the debris was left out is cause the engineers didn't predict the fact that the ice would shift faster than they predicted, then suddenly they packed their shit and got home without cleaning their mess thinking it would be no biggie if their left their debris behind. Obviously this has been proved to not be the case and someone needs to clean that shit up. Its pretty clear who is to blame here.
@danielkerr4100
@danielkerr4100 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou I'm sick of the US all together I hate america
@villemattias
@villemattias 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou "Project Iceworm was the code name for a top secret *United States Army* program during the Cold War to build a network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under the Greenland ice sheet. The ultimate objective of placing medium-range missiles under the ice - close enough to strike targets within the Soviet Union - *was kept secret from the Government of Denmark* " It's not a NATO effort when it's kept secret from one of, if not all founding countries of NATO...
@kayrosis5523
@kayrosis5523 6 жыл бұрын
Oh look, the United States Federal Government made another mess that is coming back to haunt us decades later... how... surprising...
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 6 жыл бұрын
What a surprise. Its almost as if Karma been striking the US here and there for the past decade or so. How long is this gonna continue i wonder
@shawnd1966
@shawnd1966 6 жыл бұрын
Yet another black eye for Big Government.
@HairyBottom
@HairyBottom 6 жыл бұрын
Erik S You shouldn’t believe everything you hear without question.
@nickmundy9052
@nickmundy9052 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@audriclemmons4479
@audriclemmons4479 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for blaming it on the US government instead of the US people, unlike everyone in this comment section.
@JohnDoe-tx8lq
@JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 жыл бұрын
You'd think the US would at least supply detailed maps of the camp's layout. They don't have to give up military any secrets, but it's crazy that the scientists have to use radar to try and figure out what's down there. Using techniques from Archaeology just to find what WE did a few decades ago!
@sloangiddings9763
@sloangiddings9763 6 жыл бұрын
Well that thingy about nuclear weapons and being secret screwed that up........
@brianisme6498
@brianisme6498 6 жыл бұрын
That’s not sketchy...
@JohnDoe-tx8lq
@JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a secret base.
@jimmybritt9537
@jimmybritt9537 6 жыл бұрын
John Doe - Those scientist are trying to earn their pay checks . They must show constant struggle . They have prints , and know exactly what's down there .
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 6 жыл бұрын
they know about the base but decades of climate change did happen.
@itzJKB
@itzJKB 6 жыл бұрын
The U.S military literally abandoned the base what do you mean who's responsible
@itzJKB
@itzJKB 6 жыл бұрын
Cherry Dragon exactly it should be that simple
@TwisterKidMedia
@TwisterKidMedia 6 жыл бұрын
@@cherrydragon3120 it was leased land. its not US territory. lease is done.
@DC-yb7qd
@DC-yb7qd 6 жыл бұрын
The Russians are and this is coming from a Mexican viet cong
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 6 жыл бұрын
@@DC-yb7qd literally no one cares
@Exnscsgo
@Exnscsgo 6 жыл бұрын
@@cherrydragon3120 Is it also America's problem to pay for NATO? or your military protection?
@OdditiesandRarities
@OdditiesandRarities 6 жыл бұрын
certainly looked like a cold war.
@_VALVID_
@_VALVID_ 6 жыл бұрын
Tansen Denbor ba dum
@rexappleby4731
@rexappleby4731 6 жыл бұрын
@@_VALVID_ tss
@OhItsDared
@OhItsDared 5 жыл бұрын
A really really really cold war.
@geniocristo5297
@geniocristo5297 4 жыл бұрын
Gay 👎
@sylla2
@sylla2 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment, Sir 😄
@mattjac610
@mattjac610 6 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with people holding the United States federal government responsible for the messes it causes, but it's absurd to blame the majority of people actually living in the country. It seems as though some people do is shit on Americans simply because it's the cool thing to do.
@peppermintgal4302
@peppermintgal4302 6 жыл бұрын
I don't recall they did that. When people talk about the US in context of foreign policy, they generally mean the government.
@mellowmarshmellow6288
@mellowmarshmellow6288 6 жыл бұрын
Well as a US citizen you are one of the people who decides who´s gonna make these decisions, im not, so y you are to blame for what you goverment does because you helped elect it, and if you didnt? You still had the opportunity to protest against that goverment, i dont.
@leodarksam6230
@leodarksam6230 6 жыл бұрын
Well considering that the American people are responsible for electing their government so yeah, it's not entirely unfair.
@mattjac610
@mattjac610 6 жыл бұрын
​@@leodarksam6230​ except not everyone voted for Donald Trump. It's not like every single person unanimously agreed on our governing figures and legislature. It makes more sense to hold the government, as an entity, responsible. Not the entire American population.
@Dolkerken
@Dolkerken 6 жыл бұрын
@@mattjac610 Not all danes blame the entire American population as well. It is very easy and stupid to spread false guilt this way, and it just shows that stupidity also thrives outside the states. Especially when you americans had to pick between two evils.
@martir.7653
@martir.7653 6 жыл бұрын
It's curious that the Seeker made it look like the base was a friendly cooperation between Denmark and U.S., whereas many news stories about this base highlight a controversy: > The Danish government had taken a stand against nuclear weapons and would never condone a nuclear base on Greenland. But in 1957, an American ambassador, Val Peterson, made an official overture to the Danish prime minister, H.C. Hansen. If-just say-the US had nuclear weapons in Greenland, would the Danish government want to know? Five days later, the prime minister had a response: “I do not think that your remarks give rise to any comments from my side,” And: > In this case, they had gone ahead with construction of the camp outside of the designated areas, without Denmark’s approval as required by the 1951 Defence Agreement. It was, as Peterson described it, “a dreadful blunder” from the American’s side. The application had been sent earlier that year, but contrary to custom, Denmark had yet to respond.
@616CC
@616CC 6 жыл бұрын
interesting, seeker do your fucking homework next time YEAH
@616CC
@616CC 6 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going somewhere but then blah blah don’t let him have it if its wrong correct him@Daniel Kintigh
@leodarksam6230
@leodarksam6230 6 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Kintigh Nobody gives a shit about you. You are hated throughout the world.
@ndaemon1718
@ndaemon1718 6 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Kintigh sweetie,., Europe has been fine for thousands of years without the american soldiers. and will be fine for another few thousand years without them aswell should that be the case :). Sure borders may change, nations may go under, but the people of Europe will remain :)
@wind2536
@wind2536 6 жыл бұрын
@@ndaemon1718 more like the Muslims will remain
@kimjongtrump1934
@kimjongtrump1934 5 жыл бұрын
Build a wall around it. That should do it.
@naomihaynes2452
@naomihaynes2452 5 жыл бұрын
God I hate my county right now
@andyskeels8539
@andyskeels8539 5 жыл бұрын
Username checks out
@bobthebuilder1360
@bobthebuilder1360 5 жыл бұрын
Then nuke it
@Xyphren
@Xyphren 5 жыл бұрын
this is amazing
@void-xt8pw
@void-xt8pw 5 жыл бұрын
@Southeastern777 ??
@christopherhaslund4433
@christopherhaslund4433 6 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't America clean up after themselves?
@danielkerr4100
@danielkerr4100 6 жыл бұрын
Because typical lazy Americans
@villemattias
@villemattias 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou "Project Iceworm was the code name for a top secret United States Army program during the Cold War to build a network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under the Greenland ice sheet. The ultimate objective of placing medium-range missiles under the ice - close enough to strike targets within the Soviet Union - was kept secret from the Government of Denmark " It's not a NATO effort when it's kept secret from one of, if not all founding countries of NATO... The US should clean up their mess.
@brianisme6498
@brianisme6498 6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Haslund because they think there better then everyone else at least the most vocal ones do
@gertjan3329
@gertjan3329 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou some Americans*, its a fact that the US leaves a lot of mess and destruction behind in places they try to "help" (look at the middle east as an example)
@ApologeticsAddict
@ApologeticsAddict 6 жыл бұрын
@TubeYou while it's true that Americans invented the internet it was actually A German(Konrad Zuse) who is credited for creating the first *modern* computer.
@mheermance
@mheermance 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough 50s science fiction movies to know the real reason they abandoned the base.
@matildamarmaduke1096
@matildamarmaduke1096 Жыл бұрын
Ya it was melting the ice duh
@SmR8008
@SmR8008 6 жыл бұрын
All parties involved are responsible. Therefore all parties should look at cleaning it up. They dug down to put it there, so can dig down to bring it up, not just monitor for the inevitable 😕
@yumri4
@yumri4 6 жыл бұрын
yeah but it most likely is not as easy as dig it up then dispose of it. The most effective use of disposable would be to use the PCB as nuke power plant fuel. It will not get very hot though also not produce a lot of energy either. It however will atomize everything into parts that will not harm the environment. Another one will be to take it apart 1 atom at a time and repurpose those atoms into something else. For example make a diamond to then be made into a drill head or a gem stone for a ring out of PCB with the P and the B being made into other things that are useful. Taking stuff apart 1 atom at a time probably is time consuming to separate all the atoms from one another and not lose any of them in the process. The thing will be who gets the output of the process as when you make a huck of useless toxic stuff into a lot of variable stuff from applying alot of energy and pressure to it who owns the output? By no means will this one be cheap but it will get rid of all the stuff that is a ozone containment.
@aandre311
@aandre311 6 жыл бұрын
@@yumri4 completely wrong, this is radioactive waste we are talking about. it stays radioactive for hundreds to thousands and sometimes million of years depending on the half life of the isotopes found .
@KillaBitz
@KillaBitz 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't let me and my dog play in your garden then we'll shoot you like we did your neighbour!!! THANKS BUDDY! I let my dog shit in your garden... now you must help me clean it up... i'll hold the bag open you've just got to pick up the turd and pop it in the bag..... sounds fair doesn't it.......
@yumri4
@yumri4 6 жыл бұрын
@@aandre311 I agree with you that the radio active waste needs to be handled differently from the other waste products down there. Most likely the route of just sending it into a far away star is not a valid solution either. So why not break it all down into non-radioactive materials on Earth? It is costly and will not be a net positive of energy but will get rid of the radioactive materials. The resulting stuff most likely will be gases. IF you capture those gases and when they are in the form that you can then use a lab to turn then into something useful then why not? besides for them being the most expensive form of what they turn into of course.
@nimrodery
@nimrodery 6 жыл бұрын
As long as "all parties" refers to the Americans, as they're the ones who wanted and built the place. Own your shit.
@Xylos144
@Xylos144 6 жыл бұрын
I like how they try to make all of the 'tons of waste' sound like it's 'scary nuclear waste'. When none of the nuclear waste was actually left there. They left the coolant water, but the fuel is solid ceramic encased in zirconium or other metal. The only thing that would cause the water to be 'radioactive' is neutrons hitting the hydrogen in the water and become tritium or deuterium. Deuterium is more or less stable. The ocean has a ton of it - though it is diffuse compared with hydrogen. Tritium meanwhile has a half-life of 12.3 years, (so it's already halved itself more than 4 times by now.) and more importantly, poses no risk to humans. Tritium beta decays, and with such a low amount of energy that it can't penetrate your clothes or the top few dead layers of skin in any meaningful amount. And it has no bio-loading. If you drink or inhale it, it will not concentrate in one part of the body, and it will get flushed out of the body with a half-life of about 10 days. Eating a banana exposes you to more radiation. Which means that 'toxic waste' is really just the diesel fuel. And... well: duh! So basically, we have an underground base made of sheet metal run by a nuclear reactor. They took the nuclear reactor out and left the base. And now there is a terrible, scary possibility that what amounts to an abandoned farm with a few tractor full of diesel is going to emerge from the ice. This is pretty pathetic. A cool story, but really pathetic that they spend all this effort trying to make things sound scary and try to make it sound like climate change is going to turn Greenland into a Nuclear wasteland.
@h-ke7234
@h-ke7234 5 жыл бұрын
Greenland is more or less a nuclear wasteland because of the 1968 incident.
@Onionbagel
@Onionbagel 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't most channels on youtube ever explain why a video is being re-uploaded. At least mention it in the description, for fock sake. Don't just leave us in the shadows...
@truthsayer2310
@truthsayer2310 6 жыл бұрын
LayeredOnions there’s many reasons that could be the cause, demonetization isn’t likely because it would just get demobilized again. It could be the original film/file was corrupted so there where problems in the video and the creator didn’t like it. The original could’ve gotten taken down and KZbin said it was good to be reuploaded as an error on their part. Could’ve been copy right issues. There’s a lot that happens behind the scenes people don’t understand especially at the size of their channel I’m sure they have to manage a lot. I used to be really into KZbin, got a half a million subs, my channel was banned so I went on with my life. Some of us also sign contracts for our channels to partners and can’t disclose certain info which could be revenue/ads/intros/outros/music and even down to the software. These contracts are legally binding and can make a creator go to court and most of us don’t have time. If we make KZbin videos considering the time it takes to edit/film/document/thumbnails. Hope this didn’t ramble to much and helped you understand a bit of it behind the scenes.
@truthsayer2310
@truthsayer2310 6 жыл бұрын
injustice fellow thug life videos (the original)
@Onionbagel
@Onionbagel 6 жыл бұрын
A simple "This video has been reuploaded" in the description would be enough. Just annoyed cause im clicking on a video I've already seen.
@SankoshSaha_01
@SankoshSaha_01 6 жыл бұрын
@injustice fellow Nice reference Goblin Slayer
@RyanKoh-tv2rj
@RyanKoh-tv2rj 6 жыл бұрын
No wonder I think I saw this vid before
@rahulkochar5577
@rahulkochar5577 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Nicely edited and really in depth. I’ve heard of Camp Century before and have always been in awe. But the geo-political impact its having now never even crossed my brain waves! As an American, I believe we should obviously clean up our mess, way before the end of this century, along with sticking to the Paris agreement and actually going above and beyond it. And Denmark should help! I will definitely share this video because, everyday, new and vast evidence shows how negligent we’ve been with our planet and it’s time for us to act. Immediately and as a cohesive intelligent species.
@Master_Therion
@Master_Therion 6 жыл бұрын
Even though they removed the fissile nuclear material from the reactor it's buried in ice. Does that mean when the ice thaws the nuclear reactor will have a... meltdown?
@sloangiddings9763
@sloangiddings9763 6 жыл бұрын
They took the reactor out 67'
@sandman.38
@sandman.38 6 жыл бұрын
Master Therion LOL, good one
@auyongcwify
@auyongcwify 6 жыл бұрын
Ba-dum tss
@niaschim
@niaschim 6 жыл бұрын
Therion😊
@puncheex2
@puncheex2 6 жыл бұрын
No. If they removed the fissionable fuel rods, then all the fission products went with them. It's just another structure. There may be some residual radiation, but certainly not enough to get hot enough to melt more than paraffin.
@Again-je9cm
@Again-je9cm 5 жыл бұрын
I liked the paris agreement plug lol like that would actually work.
@parikshitverma2897
@parikshitverma2897 6 жыл бұрын
Idk why but it gave me a feeling of fallout 4.
@SlashmanG
@SlashmanG 6 жыл бұрын
parikshit Verma I wonder why a story about nuclear Cold War in the 50s and 60s would make you think about a story that starts with nuclear Cold War in the 50s and 60s
@parikshitverma2897
@parikshitverma2897 6 жыл бұрын
@@SlashmanG because i wasnt listening to the video
@charlespk2008
@charlespk2008 6 жыл бұрын
it's the old retro feel fallout tries to replicate + nuclear stuff involved + abandoned ruins..... really it's fallout for all except combat and super-tech.
@Vysair
@Vysair 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine those warhead still active and explode on beaches around the world creating nuclear winter and the collapse of smaller countries which led to invasion but all superpower wants it so they started another proxy war but that would led to third world war as time goes by
@parikshitverma2897
@parikshitverma2897 6 жыл бұрын
@@Vysair this gives me feeling of metro last light by dimitri kowoski
@williamparker2922
@williamparker2922 6 жыл бұрын
They came, they saw, they left radioactive waste.
@leerman22
@leerman22 4 жыл бұрын
Water, only trace amounts of tritium so they can call it radioactive waste. Not like they'd leave that precious enrichment of uranium there to waste.
@mariaalano3077
@mariaalano3077 3 жыл бұрын
and he died! Hillary Clinton on Khaddafi and they stole the gold
@davidmicheletti6292
@davidmicheletti6292 6 жыл бұрын
In as much as the reactor only ran a few years I suspect that the cooling water isn’t all that radioactive. In addition this power unit was small, thus the amount of water is also very small. One needs to keep this in perspective. The site maybe large but the total number of people who lived there and the toxic materials is very limited. Yes they are toxic even in small amounts but there just cannot be all that much of them.
@Mr_nah
@Mr_nah 6 жыл бұрын
And it is deep under snow... Can't you see that? They used radar to find the site...
@ryanhurley9668
@ryanhurley9668 6 жыл бұрын
Lol David you hit the nail on the head. I couldn't stop laughing when they said diesel fuel over radioactive waste... then I thought about it... a mobile generator couldn't have produced enough to be so significant that Greenland itself would be unable to dilute it. Glad some one else caught that
@youliahadzhidimova5260
@youliahadzhidimova5260 6 жыл бұрын
Good point. Although, the fact that Greenland and Denmark decided to invest resources in this project suggests the threat may not be negligible. The video itself doesn't give enough info. (So people who watch this video should do one of two things. Either go research the size of the threat and form their own opinion. Or continue to not have an opinion on the matter.)
@mattleong3757
@mattleong3757 6 жыл бұрын
I think the point it's trying to make is , no country ever take care of their shit. Period if the earth die, we as a country don't care
@mattleong3757
@mattleong3757 6 жыл бұрын
Btw not to hate but try research how much nuclear waste is required to destroy a place and how many small nuclear powerplant they brought
@richy7tube
@richy7tube 3 жыл бұрын
They made it sound like the camp is currently being exposed and toxic stud is on the brink of leaking out. But the radar indicated that it is still many kilometers deep and they're not sure what is down there or if it is even leaking? Show real evidence please.
@raz0229
@raz0229 6 жыл бұрын
_Go, Watch the video! You can read the comments later!_
@niaschim
@niaschim 6 жыл бұрын
No. I do both
@andrewkennedy9704
@andrewkennedy9704 6 жыл бұрын
Don't tell me what to do.🤨
@fjaajf
@fjaajf 6 жыл бұрын
That's not how you watch in KZbin. The proper steps are the ff: 1. Go and see comments, scroll down until you see something that triggers you. 2. Reply to that comment. 3. Scroll down more, spend at least 10 minutes minimum just reading comments. 4. Leave a comment based on the title. 5. Watch the video, halfway through, pause it. 6. Edit your comment due to your discovery from watching the video halfway. 7. Reply from the response you got from step #2, f*ck whatever they said, be rude. 8. Watch again, but pause it after a few seconds. 9. Close down the video, and watch something else. 10. STOP! 11. Open up again the video and press "show more" from the video description. Read it. 12. Proceed finishing the video. Bonus points for mentioning Trump.
@sebastianelytron8450
@sebastianelytron8450 6 жыл бұрын
@@fjaajf Criminal that so few will read this comment. Literally the best thing I've ever read, and I read A LOT.
@ashiksaleem360
@ashiksaleem360 5 жыл бұрын
Not on my watch pal.
@mrthomasfritz
@mrthomasfritz 6 жыл бұрын
Old rule, if one has the right to recycle anything from the site ( 1 nuclear reactor ), then one has the responsibility to recycle the whole project. One can not cherry pick a single item from a massive project and say it is not responsible for the remainder of the items to clean up.
@FlameExecutioner
@FlameExecutioner 5 жыл бұрын
Them: the snow will keep this safe and secret. Climate change: I'ma end this man's whole carrier.
@blairski22
@blairski22 5 жыл бұрын
everyone's complaining about this while Fukushima is still pouring hundreds of tons of radioactive water into the ocean daily... and it has been since 2011.... but noooooo USA baaadddd regardless of the 90 million we gave to Japan to jump-start their cleanup as well as the 24,000 aid workers...
@anthonyjm3899
@anthonyjm3899 5 жыл бұрын
Fukashima reactors were USA GE built first gen reactors , Gen 2 reactor upgrades were never added that would have given fukashima a passive cooling backup to the reactors in the event of a power loss shutting down the electric motor driven coolant pumps . Question : Why were the Gen 2 upgrades not done ?
@maralorca6518
@maralorca6518 6 жыл бұрын
What I imagined Dan Brown's Deception Point looks like.
@karlthepagan
@karlthepagan 6 жыл бұрын
"Radioactive Coolant water" - tritiated water has half-life of 12 years. Since 1967 over 4 half-lives have passed. Definitely worry about the hydrocarbons and heavy metals more than that stuff.
@georgep2712
@georgep2712 5 жыл бұрын
2:07 Greenland isn't Antarctica. Antarctica is down south so this article is wrong.
@testthisfordecficiencies
@testthisfordecficiencies 4 жыл бұрын
Article is very correct. In 1962 Nuclear power is brought to Antarctica using the compact reactor design in the video.
@Zodliness
@Zodliness 4 жыл бұрын
Man's indiscretions will always come back to haunt another generation.
@zacroper3577
@zacroper3577 6 жыл бұрын
So if Disney ever wants some b roll for a Hoth scene they can just look here.
@ScottBFree
@ScottBFree 4 жыл бұрын
It would be better if they just never made another starwars movie ever again.
@phoule76
@phoule76 6 жыл бұрын
Camp Century, named optimistically at a time when people thought they had that much time to live
@Vanchit19
@Vanchit19 5 жыл бұрын
2:06 - seems to be part of an 'Antarctic' project. Is it relevant to the scope of this video?
@DAV632
@DAV632 5 жыл бұрын
"but the climate IS changing..." and they show a lake ice break-up with a FOREST in the background. VERY credible!!
@honestlynate7922
@honestlynate7922 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of those times in history where we all need to just come together and stop pointing blame and fix the problem for the greater good of mankind and the environment, together
@reinkamphuis4939
@reinkamphuis4939 5 жыл бұрын
Why does the article say “comes to antartica” when we are speaking about greenland?
@djodyssey99
@djodyssey99 6 жыл бұрын
So if this is in Greenland.. then I wonder what could be hiding under the ice in Antarctica.. 🤔🤔
@OhItsDared
@OhItsDared 5 жыл бұрын
Area 52
@user-yv2cz8oj1k
@user-yv2cz8oj1k 5 жыл бұрын
The Thing!
@Poorschedriver
@Poorschedriver 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone makes a huge deal about it but the half life of the nuclear contamination will make it far more manageable than the average person realizes. We're not talking about Chernobyl, where the government had to wait over 30 years for the contamination to get to a point where a second sarcophagus could be build over the mess.
@rubenmanssens
@rubenmanssens 5 жыл бұрын
"With the paris agreement, we can keep more snowfall than melt" What a load of rubbish.
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 5 жыл бұрын
Ruben Manssens What evidence do you posit that directly contradicts his statement?
@SternLX
@SternLX 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrTangent The Paris agreement was/is nothing more than a con game that would fatten the pockets of politicians. Not every country on the planet agreed to it. The USA would have been stuck with the majority of the Bill to clean things up and it's not even the worlds largest polluter. Not by any means. To posit that MAN can control the weather is a fools errand. The Sun can undo any attempt at mans inability to limit so called green house gas emissions. Fact: CO2(the main boogy man of the climate alarmists) is at a historical low right now. Around 450-500 ppm. The last time CO2 was similar to current levels was around 3 million years ago, during the Pliocene era. Back then, CO2 levels remained at around 365 to 410 ppm for thousands of years. Arctic temperatures were 11 to 16°C warmer (Csank 2011). Global temperatures over this period is estimated to be 3 to 4°C warmer than pre-industrial temperatures. Sea levels were around 25 metres higher than current sea level (Dwyer 2008).
@portlavacaboy
@portlavacaboy 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those commie radicals at NOAA published this article - what the heck do they know?www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
@strawman9246
@strawman9246 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, translated to. "if you let us tax you more for the oil we sell you it will make us richer and we will then tell you that you can feel good about yourself.
@ClandestineMerkaba
@ClandestineMerkaba 4 жыл бұрын
@@SternLX Ahh, a fellow 0bserver I see.
@bigdaddybeave8031
@bigdaddybeave8031 3 жыл бұрын
2 years after these last comments, the ice is still covering
@markae0
@markae0 10 ай бұрын
yea so? it was 90 feet deep
@bigdaddybeave8031
@bigdaddybeave8031 10 ай бұрын
@@markae0just updating the comments with a time stamp. And people Still believe global warming is real 😂😂😂
@wise_guy4230
@wise_guy4230 5 жыл бұрын
So its buried under an additional 30 meters of ice. The nuclear reactor was removed. Which means ice has clearly been added since the facility was abandoned. I find their assertions about nuclear or toxic waste, also questionable.
@TheLuismaBeaTle
@TheLuismaBeaTle 6 жыл бұрын
Why did they upload this on December 2nd, delete it 20min after that and reupload 28 days later? Im not too much of a paranoid guy but... What did they cut out?
@dimasgrey
@dimasgrey 6 жыл бұрын
why i feel like i already watch this? is this reupload or some sort?
@gervaisfillion9417
@gervaisfillion9417 5 жыл бұрын
do you have any images INSIDE the Camp today??
@cooterswift916
@cooterswift916 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody else thirsty for tall glass of radioactive coolant water?!
@Dookie6891
@Dookie6891 5 жыл бұрын
"If we stick to something like Paris Agreement, we can keep more snowfall than melt..." What?? You mean all we gotta do is turn on the snow switch to save global warming?
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 5 жыл бұрын
MCV It was pretty self explanatory. If we abandon the environmental agreements the snow/ice will melt at a much faster rate. With them intact, less melt and more snowfall. What part of the english language and/or basic reading/listening comprehension skills are you lacking?
@junghwalee5454
@junghwalee5454 5 жыл бұрын
???: This is the story of.... Me: I feel like I'm in the 80's or 1981 right now....
@timothyfoleyjr2796
@timothyfoleyjr2796 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the documentary about the building of this “Camp”. My Dad would fly in and out of this country when he was in SAC.
@DhanrajTharsan
@DhanrajTharsan 5 жыл бұрын
build a wall around it and let the snow pay for it.......
@Unknown-gi1uj
@Unknown-gi1uj 5 жыл бұрын
Where can i view the 3d model of the debris field?
@williamworth2746
@williamworth2746 6 жыл бұрын
You should really watch the video on this it's on KZbin our grandparents were badass
@djflaco7492
@djflaco7492 5 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see that Ross moved on from dinosaurs
@realityrealized8370
@realityrealized8370 6 жыл бұрын
2:07 Antarctica? lol
@BrianMcKee
@BrianMcKee 6 жыл бұрын
Around the same time the US was deploying a small nuclear powerplant at McMurdo base in Antarctica. Same tech, just different location.
@mikeyc8139
@mikeyc8139 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Paris Agreement commercial.
@RolomirFenrir
@RolomirFenrir 4 жыл бұрын
*Reads comment section* "I don't want to live on this planet anymore"
@edmaher3612
@edmaher3612 5 жыл бұрын
The reactor was removed when the base was shutdown. This was many years ago. The problem is not the reactor, but the crap left behind, such as rods, water and other contaminates. All this was documented, including the reactor being flown out.
@bigdaddydons6241
@bigdaddydons6241 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy you used the music from The Thing in your into
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 6 жыл бұрын
Needs to be cleaned up. Ideally, our government needs to pay for it. You make a mess, you clean it up, it's only fair.
@professorquarter
@professorquarter 6 жыл бұрын
We returned the land (which we payed for) to Denmark following the closure of the base. Since then, Denmark has devolved most internal concerns to its constituent country of Greenland. Regardless, it likely will not be a problem for quite some time, and considering this is merely one site (and in an area of little economic importance at that), realistically no one is going to clean it up.
@lmao2709
@lmao2709 6 жыл бұрын
professorquarter except that if ice melts and nuclear material spills, it won't just contaminate Greenland. If you are familiar with Chernobyl, then I'm guessing it could be like that. Possibly worse. If you aren't familiar with Chernobyl, it was a soviet nuclear power plant in Ukraine ( which didn't have much economical importance ) and it went into meltdown and spread nuclear material all over Europe and Russia (which made the percent of cancer go up a bit for people nearby) If it did go off in Greenland, nuclear material could go into Canada, America, Russia, and Western Europe.
@commonsense31
@commonsense31 6 жыл бұрын
Well given the fact, that you wanted a base there and you built it yourself. Then because American miscalculations, They abandoned the base because it was collapsing leaving everything they built to contaminate the area. But it doesn't matter I know My government is going to pay for it and fix it. And then we also gonna own the new Shipping route opening up because the ice is melting.
@professorquarter
@professorquarter 6 жыл бұрын
@@lmao2709 It most definitely wouldnt. In Chernobyl, radioactive material was blown into the air by an explosion. There is no actual reactor at this site and even if there was, it wouldnt have been running for years and years. This situation more comparable to a low-level superfund site. It isn't even that bad compared to the majority of sites and it is in the middle of nowhere.
@professorquarter
@professorquarter 6 жыл бұрын
@@commonsense31 It wasn't just us, the Soviet threat was very real to Denmark and it was for that reason that they accepted our money for the site. We literally gave your government money and gave the land that we payed for back without demanding compensation. And no, it is not going to contaminate a wide area even in a worst case scenario. There is literally nothing around this site for miles upon miles and it isn't even that big to begin with. Yes, radioactive metals and various pollutants could leach into the surrounding area (which is largely devoid of complex life). It wouldnt be alone in this regard, but the environmental and human impact of this given the location would honestly be less than an old abandoned gas station in a populated area. You guys really probably don't need to clean it up. Fix up an old building in Copenhagen instead and you've done more good for humanity.
@commonsense31
@commonsense31 6 жыл бұрын
professorquarter well we are going too. But I’m curious I can’t find any information about the claim that US paid anything for the land. And given the fact that they started building the base before They got approval from the danish government, and that US knew that Denmark would reject any Nuclear weapons or power plants presence in Greenland.
@stevenbain8798
@stevenbain8798 6 жыл бұрын
Would you guys please do an episode about nuclear reactors that are within projected sea level rise.
@Juanceesaint
@Juanceesaint 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats US for keeping earth safe from being safe. The future of our new ones will be the one to suffer in fixing all your past mistakes that you have left behind.
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 6 жыл бұрын
I know right
@malvoliomaximillian2001
@malvoliomaximillian2001 6 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt it be "we have left behind"? Stop pointing fingers at a specific country/countries & maybe we can actually fix this shit together
@thecitizenjoan
@thecitizenjoan 5 жыл бұрын
Working for a Nuclear Free City is a good band
@PEGuyMadison
@PEGuyMadison 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe your perspective of life during the Cold War would change your opinions... I doubt anyone responding on this story ever had to practice drills for a nuclear attack or build underground bunkers with food and water for your family. It was a real threat and the US was at the forefront of protecting itself and the world, aka.. Europe from the USSR.
@fatbadboy329
@fatbadboy329 6 жыл бұрын
How exactly? By contaminating another country's land and soil? Well the cold war is over now, why not clean up then? You shit on other's front lawn and you don't clean up, what's the excuse in that?
@PEGuyMadison
@PEGuyMadison 6 жыл бұрын
@@fatbadboy329 It was part of a treaty which included the protection of US armed forces... All of us are too young to remember WWII but the account of US forces that died protecting Europe goes like this.. U.S. Combat Dead by Theater of war - Europe-Atlantic 183,588; Army ground forces 141,088; United States Army Air Forces 36,461 and Navy/Coast Guard 6,039; Asia-Pacific 108,504; Army ground forces 41,592; United States Army Air Forces 15,694; Navy/Coast Guard 31,485; Marine Corps 19,733. Unidentified Theatres- Army 39[69] [16,584-591]. Included in combat deaths are 14,059 POWs, in Europe (1,124) and (12,935) in Asia[16,584-591]. I am sure many people in Europe believe they would have been better off without the support of US forces (and the US tax payers that funded it). Maybe living under the National Socialist German Workers' Party would have been better, but I believe that Europe should be a free Europe.
@Thomas6Anderson
@Thomas6Anderson 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting note: At 2:06, the narrator says the whole base was powered by a nuclear power plant, then the image goes to what appears to be a newspaper article with the headline "Nuclear Power Comes To Antarctica". (But Camp Century is in Greenland. Part of the Arctic. Not the Antarctic.)
@michaelkeudel8770
@michaelkeudel8770 6 жыл бұрын
So once again we did something stupid without a plan to deal with the consequences, and all we. An do is kick the can down the road and try to point the finger at someone else.
@shaje42
@shaje42 6 жыл бұрын
It's the true American way, right? Up until we get bad press...
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what they always have done? I mean. The government of america is just so god damn stupid in so many ways. I almost feel bad for some of the inhabitants of that country
@shokama
@shokama 6 жыл бұрын
Am I wrong, or has this video been re-posted? I think I saw it earlier this month...
@WyomingGuy876
@WyomingGuy876 6 жыл бұрын
" ! Global Warming! " "OMG, GLOBAL WARMING!"
@williamhad
@williamhad 5 жыл бұрын
Okay but I'm curious about the costs of not cleaning up. Like if the total contaminants are equal to that left by a plastic bag in the ocean then it probably isnt worth the costs of going to the middle of no wear, sending people under the ice and cleaning up. And yeah there's radioactive water but how much and how dangerous is it?
@bigzcutler1594
@bigzcutler1594 6 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest it wouldnt actually do anything to the environment if left to unthaw. The ocean is massive any nuclear waste or diesel fuel that gets into the water would dissipate and be harmless. We could detonate a nuclear bomb in the ocean and it literally wouldn't do anything.
@DecibelAlex
@DecibelAlex 6 жыл бұрын
are u dumb or something?
@n4sc3ntbrother
@n4sc3ntbrother 6 жыл бұрын
@@DecibelAlex hes right the ocean will dilute it till it is no longer problematic
@mattdwyer8242
@mattdwyer8242 6 жыл бұрын
We have detonated nuclear weapons in the ocean and the consequences have been minimal.
@mellowmarshmellow6288
@mellowmarshmellow6288 6 жыл бұрын
jezz people are fucking crazy..
@DecibelAlex
@DecibelAlex 6 жыл бұрын
@@mattdwyer8242 Don't say we. America has detonated nuclear weapons in the ocean, marshall islands to be exact. Nobody can live on the islands around the detonation site, there's not even any marine life left.
@mr.oddlyfox6934
@mr.oddlyfox6934 5 жыл бұрын
As a citizen, I agree that the US should be responsible for the cleanup of Camp Century. The nature of the hazardous materials was known from the start and handled as such by personnel. The fact that the materials and structures were abandoned rather than removed makes some sense, given the lack of understanding of nuclear power at the time and that of managing its waste. An incident is inevitable, still the question of when, at this site unless handled properly. Furthermore, this is a fine example of the potential detriments to rapid progression in any project or technology. Careful planning for before and after are essential for stability going forward.
@Ras548
@Ras548 6 жыл бұрын
Still believe that the US deserves a Wall. 10 m thick, 20 m tall, all around and with a roof. Kinda like the chernobyl dome. Trump do have some good ideas to protect the world.
@ndaemon1718
@ndaemon1718 6 жыл бұрын
hmm.. not a bad idea.. can put grass on the dome and build a new nation ontop of it ':)
@vinzent1992
@vinzent1992 5 жыл бұрын
As a dane I will gladly help pay for that wall, I even believe we can get Mexico in on it too :)
@NickAlekseyevich
@NickAlekseyevich 6 жыл бұрын
A joint operation sounds like a call for joint resolution to me.
@bradleysmith9431
@bradleysmith9431 6 жыл бұрын
this guy is good at suckering money out of people. that's all
@fasthackm
@fasthackm 6 жыл бұрын
I heard that there was a malfunction in one of the reactors at Camp Century? Which story is true? The entire Artic / Antartica sheets house wonders that they are keeping from us. Two entrances into the 'inner earth' for starters. Man doing what man does best....destroy
@apple404404
@apple404404 6 жыл бұрын
what did i expect from a seeker video? one word: tendentious
@name-in9bj
@name-in9bj 3 жыл бұрын
If it quit snowing and is starting to melt it should be really easy to find the base since there were several escape hatches that clearly stood above the snow line when the base was built. Apparently they are lower than the current level of snow, which would make the base hard to find and disprove there argument of the base being exposed from melt. Job security?
@brokebutfunctioninggarage
@brokebutfunctioninggarage 6 жыл бұрын
I love how quickly the world turns on the USA. yea, we built it...(with help Im sure from the country where its located.) I agree we should be helping to fix the problem... that being said the US did not walk into a different country and build things like this without the agreement and help of the countries they're built within themselves. Countries get "aid" from the USA to allow things like this to happen. Its amazing how quickly they'll accept the "AID" and/or use our country as a police force for those who cannot govern themselves and at the same time complain that we do so.
@commonsense31
@commonsense31 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Denmark never received "AID" from the US, America wanted a base to counter the Old Soviet Union. It was USA that wanted the base, So you are embarrassing yourself with comparing it to a underdeveloped country that receives aid from America. You did built it yourself, Why do you think the scientists have to use sonar to map the entire base. Because USA don't want to give out their Construction plans to Denmark.
@MindaugasSnegirevas
@MindaugasSnegirevas 6 жыл бұрын
If someone put a gun to your head and told you to do it, you would do it. CLEAN IT.
@ItsCrayon
@ItsCrayon 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t realize that we don’t have really anywhere to put the waste, so if we moved it now then it would probably do more damage if we left it and hope that the ice doesn’t end up melting which it is so we are stuck between a rock and a hard place
@brianhedrick3495
@brianhedrick3495 3 жыл бұрын
This alarming story is brought to you by paid climate alarmist.....
@sulan91
@sulan91 6 жыл бұрын
No problem, the US should pay for the clean up since it's their mess.
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 6 жыл бұрын
They either clean it up themselves. Or indeed pay to let others clean it up. Either way. The US will be responsible for this
@OrangeCrush1981
@OrangeCrush1981 6 жыл бұрын
If humans actually contributed to a change in our climate
@southernwulf530
@southernwulf530 6 жыл бұрын
Going green now won't stop climate change, if everyone didn't use products that put heat in the air starting now it wouldn't make a dent for another 100 years, but if we build air conditioners, that might help, but air conditioners produce heat as well.
@fjdndjsnxb8488
@fjdndjsnxb8488 5 жыл бұрын
we do tho
@sebastienguenette7903
@sebastienguenette7903 6 жыл бұрын
Sound like fort chimo, Kuujjuaq, Québec. There is a place called barrels beach ... When they left they just buried the barrels filled with toxic waste ( Also a US military base )
@dappa4608
@dappa4608 6 жыл бұрын
same in aus after ww2 they dumped everything and i mean everything drums of fuel by the 100000 cars trucks planes everything they just buried it
@mr.techaky7655
@mr.techaky7655 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone be bashing America here but... If that ice melts... could I per chance get at some of those diesel drums? Why let good diesel do to waste?
@nancymorgan34
@nancymorgan34 3 жыл бұрын
Any update ??? Its been almost 3 years now...
@drofwarcnwahs2108
@drofwarcnwahs2108 3 жыл бұрын
After reading a few of the comments below it is amazing how ignorant most of the commenters are about the drivers of this project. This was primarily a NATO initiative funded by US and NATO with the agreement of all parties including Denmark. The decision to abandon it in place was known by all at the time. If Denmark had concerns they could have addressed it themselves but didn't. If NATO wanted to clean it up they could have but didn't. The next 50 years are going to be interesting to watch with the volume of uniformed individuals with questionable educations. It's also fascinating to see all of the hate being released in the comments in this and most other youtube posts. Gives you an insight into the true human condition.
@essaym7509
@essaym7509 5 жыл бұрын
The same people that say the internet is overreacting about Fukushima radiation is trying to tell the internet to overreact about a small mobile reactor’s radiation?
@TuckaBuck89
@TuckaBuck89 3 жыл бұрын
At 6:18 it lists contaminants per the speaker but does not quote her words "could contain". . The shown list without the words "could contain" is misleading. Now I cannot believe anything this vid says or implies.
@timegaming1085
@timegaming1085 5 жыл бұрын
What song is that at the end of video
@parkerw.2155
@parkerw.2155 6 жыл бұрын
2:06 shows a news article about nuclear power in Antarctica. Not sure if they realize that is on the other side of the world.
@williamayala9453
@williamayala9453 5 жыл бұрын
Whose here reading the comments while watching the video 🖐
@conspiracyoflemurs6185
@conspiracyoflemurs6185 4 жыл бұрын
William Ayala I discovered this channel a few hours ago, the comments are just a cesspool of arguing.
@vintageringsGarry
@vintageringsGarry 5 жыл бұрын
What about the Nuclear reactor power generator built on a fault line in Californian? Have they addressed that problem. There's no doubt in my mind one day there will be a big one. What will happen with the air, water, and the food chain?
@SmashtheCmachine
@SmashtheCmachine 5 жыл бұрын
Humanity: the greatest parasite on earth.
@michaelcaprio311
@michaelcaprio311 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, (it will be difficult, expensive, amd time consuming) Denmark could dig up the ice sheet remove the hazardous debry and fill the snow/ ice back in.
@billmcdonald8454
@billmcdonald8454 3 жыл бұрын
Century was actually a test to see if a small nuclear facility could support a company size military unit. There is much more in Greenland than Camp Century. The largest BMEWS site is or was there and Thule AFB and a Nike Battery was also there. This entire Greenland installation was part of NORAD, not simply a US installation. I do not believe this so called cooling water is reactive. Denmark was very protective about nuclear waste and the US too very careful action to prevent ANY nuclear waste.
@capt_killswitch6585
@capt_killswitch6585 6 жыл бұрын
What's the name of soundtrack in the background
@myroadtours6147
@myroadtours6147 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that the US should clean it up but I can't help but wonder what is the environmental effects of cleaning it up vs leaving it alone? I guess what I'm wondering is will they screw it up even worse by cleaning it up. We're talking about needing heavy equipment and steady machinery use for probably years. Anyhow, mankind has a way of screwing things up sometimes.
@timmeh87
@timmeh87 6 жыл бұрын
Whoever wrote the captions left out or misheard a couple important words the guy on skype said and also didnt bother to convert hectares to acres or didnt understand what hectares are
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
At 04:12 they state the possible environmental risk and then show the nuclear rods...but just seconds before they show that the military removed the plant? WTF kind of BS is that?
@maximobistoyong3600
@maximobistoyong3600 5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching the documentary, THE OLD CLIP FROM 1965 about the building of the camp century and now this time I saw this and it is abadoned
@pandastylearmy5938
@pandastylearmy5938 6 жыл бұрын
why did those papers say nuclear power in antarctica when they are talking about greenland? the two continents are on opposite ends of the planet
@MegamanZero410
@MegamanZero410 5 жыл бұрын
The half life of uranium is roughly 26 years. It’s been double that since the 60s. Sure the coolant may still be there but it’s had a significant amount of time for the radioactive material to decay at its natural rate. Will it cause serious issues if released into the ocean, no, it’ll dilute as everything does and will cause less radioactive impact than the sun does on a daily basis. The plastics and diesel fuel are of more concern than radioactive coolant.
@onewordhereonewordthere6975
@onewordhereonewordthere6975 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch them build it scrolled down and here I'm reading the comments. Let's just say they are completely opposite. They had a job and they did it .American was is the greatest. Now nobody had any idea what they were doing. Amazing 👏. I don't have words to describe what I'm feeling . PROS AND CONS . WILL TURN INTO , DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
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