This Augment is Destroying Matchmaking in Tanki Online

[@gonzalomorales8171]

While some players will always choose to camp (its just part of Tanki), the increase in camping within the past year or two is a GAME DESIGN issue. This issue can be boiled down to two schools of thought... 1. It is very affordable and even encouraged for people to camp. If you're proficient at camping and have good equipment, you can easily outscore the people who are playing the objective; people who are actively trying to cap flags, score touchdowns, etc. It is a low-risk, high-reward playing style, which is why more and more people flock to it. If you can score 700 points a game without having to put yourself within the enemy's line of fire, who would decline? A solution to this part of the issue is to dramatically increase the points one earns for capping a flag, scoring a touchdown, capping a point, etc by at least 2-fold (I'd go 3-fold). The most important part of any game is to play the objective, and engage your opponents on the battlefield. Tanki should support the people who still do this, as it is a HIGH-RISK but low-reward playstyle currently. People who want to camp can still camp, but people who play for the objective would be more appropriately compensated. 2. Long-range turrets are too prominent. A couple of years ago, there was an update that reduced the overall power of long-range turrets (I don't know off the top of my head, I may go back in the archives and find it). Camping is best done with medium-long range turrets. And as long as they are dominant in MM, you can bet the # of campers will increase. They just have too much leverage over games right now, especially their overpowered augments. I won't go into specifics here, but balancing some of the augments of these turrets will solve this part of the issue. *There was an "experiment" back in 2020 that doubled the amount of health of every single tank. While back then the change was inappropriate (it didn't become permanent), I would entertain the idea of increasing the health of every single tank, 3 years later. Maybe not by 2x, but an increase in health is something I feel is appropriate, at least at face value. People die way too quickly, and the recent change of med kits only inflamed the issue.

[@jedmorley9905]

Also healing needs a buff I have spent an entire game healing our juggernaut and came in last even though the only reason we won is because I was healing him with shaft healing emitters.

[@thegoblinsglen]

All of this. The huge rank disparity is problematic also. There are some days it feels like the devs are just supplying high ranks with easy kills, most are campers which is another slap in the face. I think the entire scoring system needs a reboot. There's no reason why a maxxed out tank should get roughly the same scores as a lt col or something. The damage isn't the points we get so making the points relative to gs and/or rank would probably resolve a lot of the problems. Legends wouldn't target lower ranks because there's no payout. As it is, there are days when it's unplayable. If I sign in and it's full of Legends, I won't bother. There are very few occasions when that situation is worth my time.

[@Impact_TO]

Well analysed! Pin his comment taspens

[@michaelhaddad2190]

There is an appeal to sitting back and shooting people who cannot kill you back. This is why Sniping is a game category by itself. People just like sniping, and that is why we love camping.

[@TheTrueKingSr.]

The real reason camp is because of drones, especially defender, booster, crisis, saboteurs... A normal player cannot cap a flag... If you r capping a flag, u have defender, light hull, 4sloth of protection unlocked... armadillo otherwise tanki is just not balanced.. With Crisis it's easy kill for flag runners...

[@Lanky.Synergy]

5:00 That Railgun murdered you twice in the same spot, love the hate towards that Railgun Ed.

[@Dex-YT-rl1ek]

4:06 i personally enjoy when you complain sometimes cause it feels more authentic

[@thegoblinsglen]

Matchmaking has been broken. We were in a game together last week and only two people were even trying to cap a point. The other were camping. We were also the younger ranks on the team. The matchmaking is so bad it's just about impossible to find a game that isn't massively overpowered.

[@Dex-YT-rl1ek]

I noticed that there are lately so many people who just use their overdrive on me.

[@shibepubg]

bro your commentary is enjoyable to listen to i watched a couple videos you are really dominating tanki online content keep it up

[@Taspens]

It’s pretty bad right now, hoping Tanki will improve soon

[@shibepubg]

​@@Taspens😢

[@Taspens]

@@shibepubg just way too many overused broken augments, campers and the same OP players you have to verse in many games. Holding out hope lol

[@K-kof2000]

I understand why many players camp on bases. Nowadays it's pretty easy to die suddenly from a sniper, long range turrets are the high caste on most maps. That's why I consider melee turrets to be the most difficult to get a good K/D in the match, but they are fun.

[@ShadowUltraBlox123]

Hopper and ricochet combo is op nowadays. Especially with augments.

[@omaritwan]

best combo is faust hopper crisis ive never seen something so good. taspens should make a video on that

[@AgentSix]

If there is someone with a short or medium ranged turret that has a status effect augment like EMP, I will actually switch the Driver augment to match the status effect, if anything I think it's pretty balanced since once you can see a hopper you can probably one shot them or at least kill them before they get too close. In exchange for giving up protection of status effects, most annoying of which as you said once is stunning, especially when you are about to cap a flag and it disables your overdrive mid use, I think it only fair you will get to enjoy the 50% overdrive bonus.

[@Iamthe2G]

No, Driver doesn't need to be nerfed. The problem is not Driver, but Hopper. It's Hopper that needs to be nerfed and, if it were me, outright banned from MM. Hopper and Paladin make absolutely zero sense both in terms of game lore and playability, they don't fit in the game mechanics whatsoever just like Tesla. If you combine them with Crisis, and if you now add in the Driver augment, now THAT is broken. Again, the devs don't distinguish something being fun to use but very skill, luck, and situation (and/or map) based, than something competitive, fair, still skill-based but not a "delete enemy" button, and we as players are no better since we reinforce these combos to keep existing and be present in the meta by using them. I personally don't use Crisis (0 upgrades), nor Trickster, nor any Pulsar augments because I see them as the root of the problem and just unbalanced, but if everyone else uses them, well, there you have it. We should stop complaining about any of these things when we're the perpetrators...

[@Taspens]

I enjoyed overdrives more when they were only use once or twice a game. Using them too often ruins the balance

[@Iamthe2G]

@@Taspens Well I'd argue that some of them ruin the game, not all. For instance, Hunter's used to be more difficult to deal with back when EMP and Stun immunities were not so widespread and in some game modes it was broken, but nowadays not only is it not broken, but it's actually balanced no matter how many times you activate it because it's a one time ace up your sleeve for protecting flags or capturing them/scoring a goal. True, Hopper's and Hunter's actually have the same effect, but Hopper is much more agile and versatile than Hunter and that's why it's not balanced, especially thanks to Trickster, Crisis and the mouse controls, so I'm cool with more than two OD activations or more per battle, but not with Hopper's existence overall...

[@Kipling45]

Bro, me using your paint in battles is giving me good luck. Idk how that possible but when I'm using your paint, I get in great battles, lots of kills, lots of xp but when I used other paints, I get absolutely destroyed. Thats why I've been using your paint more now adays.

[@marekqwerty8963]

Agree with everything. Camping issue - why would not you camp, its beneficial for your K/D ratio and many "good" players focus on that, with new stupid augments like magnum vacuum its easy to just sit in corner of map and killing whole enemy team without moving... best with combination of crisis or barricade yourself with 1000 mines just in case and when you finally are able to get some revenge they just leave battle second before you can kill them. How can you be more toxic than that? Same goes with some of a gauss or scorpion augments but its not that easy. Driver augmetns and overdrives - Yeah my last battle I died 20 times and 11x from overdrive... wasp bombs, ares balls, hopper OD, crusader yeah it has come to the point where you just dying more often to ODs than normal turrets. I think one solution would be increase CD time of all ODs and slightly nerf driver augment. Now 50 % players (or more) will have driver augment for Hopper because wild hunt event. It wont be playable at all. I as a attacker in attack mode does not have chance to be in top 3 because that places belong to hopper players just using OD and crisis to CAP flags and its easy when there are lot of them. Does Hopper augment need nerf ? Hell yes, Hopper OD deals from unknow reason 3K dmg yet hunter which is medium hull deals only 2K and you can defend yourself against status effects (which is still a medium hull) Against hopper You can not run from it unlike in wasp OD. Apart of stupid op DMG and stunning (if you survive) Its just ruining game... gold are boring because most of the time some hopper catches it anyway now with driver augment it happen a lot more. And yes... attack mode, rugby or CTF are now just meh... you see hopper and you know that if someone is going to cap flag or score goal it will be hopper with his stupid OD. One solution to this could be some radius around flags for example 60 meters where players with hopper would not jump at all. They can use it, they can destroy tanks with it but they will not jump to prevent them bypass all the defence and abuse that. Or just reduce height they can jump in close radius of flags/ cap points If something about hoovering hull is just stupid its hopper.

[@jedmorley9905]

Hopper just needs to go it doesn't belong in the game at all

[@Tigers_n_Guns]

honestly, even if i could play mm i wouldn't. it just seems so boring nowadays. i find its a lot more fun in pro battle with usually no supplies

[@rizwanriaz8706]

Yh same.. I play sandbox ctf a lot 😊

[@Tigers_n_Guns]

@@rizwanriaz8706 yeah my brother absolutely hates the map yet its really fun

[@K-kof2000]

Hmm.. It is impossible to play with light hulls without supplies.

[@Tigers_n_Guns]

@@K-kof2000 not impossible i either use hornet (light hull) or viking (medium hull)

[@rizwanriaz8706]

@@K-kof2000 depends on the turret mostly..

[@Zurya_TO]

Pisses me off when everyone camps besides me on modes like ctf and cp

[@nur_mammadli]

I use this augment with hammer assult magazine. it is actually broken

[@periodtthatson3582]

Im so mad they removed paints from the challenge because lately the rewards suck and i have nothing to play for, i would easaly buy the pass for a good paint because not long ago we had hunter prime, rico xt then hunter prime again, idk who responsible for that but they need to get fired

[@Bumblebeast_TO]

I dont agree with the points about the driver augment. For starters, titan and mammoth charge way slower, so nerfing them would be punishment for hoppers (already) quick od. On top of that, using wasp/hopper driver is fun bcs of the quick od. That way you can deal with the campers easily and repeatedly instead of dying bcs theres 3 more ppl you didnt see. Nerfing them would also give less reason to use them and using stun/emp immunity over driver since ur so vulnerable

[@Taspens]

The problem for me is that overdrives are special and should only be used 1-3 times a game. They are turning into something that you can just spam which I don’t enjoy at all

[@pedroarthurcarvaloamaral9524]

​@@TaspensThe problem with tanki is that it lost its essence, of course improvement is necessary, but the game was so fun when the battle was one-on-one, without drones, without protections, without changes It was so fun to go into battle and have titan and flames or isida to take away the effects and even its durability in 1x1, but unfortunately it's very monotonous, all it takes is one change and it breaks the game, unfortunately tanki will not return to the essence of what it once was, the tendency is to always implement broken things that only a small portion get (the paying portion gets) while the free ones suffer.

[@pedroarthurcarvaloamaral9524]

​@@TaspensThe balance is rough... The level from one player to another is shocking... This really needs to be improved.

[@racerknight2189]

Taspens I think complaining is worth it. Tanki is pretty much lacking in fun right now and pretty much all of us including me don't really have the motivation to play anymore. The game in my opinion is so messed up with all these balances, pulsar and broken augments that not everyone can get or it's hard to get by. Railgun, Hunter, Hopper, Crusader, and Ares really need at least a 50% reduction in damage and crit damage so that people can play with whatever stuff they want, even light hulls instead of worrying about how easily they will die. The battle length should also be reduced to 10 minutes which is perfect (not 8 or less) cuz we can get a good amount of battles done and we also have time to enjoy them. Broken augments such as Hydra, Assault Magazine, Helios, and Rapid fire really need to be removed along with all pulsar and status effect augments so that we have a fun and calm game. Also Tanki needs to make good tankifunds with unique augments that don't destroy matchmaking (non-status effect) and keep containers in them. Lastly, they need to listen to us about good event modes. We really need the no drones, no overdrives, and no augments modes with supplies and whatever equipment we want at least once per month, especially halloween and christmas. But that augment is irrelevant to me since I can't use hovering hulls and I don't like them since they aren't Tanki. Hopper needs its jump removed permanently and instant damage nerfed to the ground.

[@Rnzlr]

Yeah, I also sometimes forget which overdrive I have. I hate when that happens! 🙃 What else are you supposed to do with a slow-reload turret other than camp?

[@Friend_off_all]

I wish you see as a developer of this game

[@abraruralam3534]

As a camper, I make sure to spare enemy tanks that just respawned, because otherwise the enemies get focussed on me. I specially spare that player i just killed because i know that shit feels like an insult and ultimately fires back when they take 50 prot againts my turret, their best camping loadout/ fastest melee combo to only spawn-kill me over and over (sometimes throughout the rest of the game) .

[@marekqwerty8963]

Or they can equip magnum vacuum and you are dead no matter what you do ... how easy it is now for pay to win players to get revenge on you.... :) I have experienced this a lot of time... I was doing good in battle, killing some dude with OP augment and then he just changed equip to vacuum magnum and I could not do anything because he just one shotted me almost every single shot and when I can finally kill them? Nah they just refresh game (they will leave battle , second before then die and recconect without getting killed) Funny experience....

[@brollyTO]

its ez , they just need to add short maps which countains 4 5 players only

[@Gabku]

People camp because tanki made it so that it doesn't f-ing matter what you do, you can get top of the scoreboard. Decreasing points you get for capping points/flags and jugg kills. Plus the amount of broken paid augments and crap in the game make less experienced players unable to play otherwise. Oh and yeah as you also mentioned, the repetitive MM system is also at fault here.. people don't care about losing a battle when they can get into another battle 10 minutes later or even sooner. Back when you actually had to grind for hours in a single battle it was obviously a bad idea to camp because you'd get nothing at the end, plus the teammates would roast the hell out of you if you tried to just camp and do nothing, making them lose... tanki is just not fun anymore, it feels like a job you have to do every day, oh also the new mission system really makes camping even more prominent because there's no mission that would require you to actually play.. I really hate campers but I know it's not their fault, it's Tanki's that they make this stupid game so camping friendly

[@RajeswariKatari-t4m]

I want old overdrive with no supplys

[@ramilaakhmetova6092]

☺

[@smokyviking2103]

I want them to make that a permanent game mode

If I join the Wild West event right now ? Do I miss rewards that were only available on the event some days ago ? Or I can join it now and complete all the missions of the event normally and get the rewards etc ?

[@Taspens]

You can enter and complete the missions up till this Monday

@@Taspens Thank you !

[@smokyviking2103]

@@Taspens which team are you on

[@smokyviking2103]

@ which team are you on

[@ReallyBruh1]

Used his overdrive just to go back upside down again 😭❤️

[@shibepubg]

fr

[@Taspens]

Hoping Halloween is fun

[@loyaltyebk]

w vid taylor

[@williamlin8368]

I hate hopper with richoment taspens .It so anoying when you cap a flag in assult everyone just use it on you

[@thecrazymatch1249]

Tanki Online is just disgusting. Beginning tutorial, first mission: buy something from the shop. That tells it all.

[@ramilaakhmetova6092]

tanki players why camping? the anser is if red team have so many gigachad players you mast camp but if red team is so noom all teammates starts for attack🤤

[@hdpro1290]

Why waste your supplies on a team of noobs. Camping saves supplies and half of the noob campers don't even know what they are doing.

[@Taspens]

True

[@smoky1255]

Destroyed go gold now it’s destroying normal games

[@johanneshartman4618]

hey man, relax voice u have! also did you know that you are condemned because of all your sins and need the sacrifice GOD send HIS SON for to fulfill to be cleaned and washed with the blood of JESUS! ?

[@M_Hamza]

the game is broken..look at the players/...flying drones vs normal one is no fight