Thank you for sharing, great insight. I'm entirely convinced to read it :)
@gui.ferreira4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@kitsurubami4 ай бұрын
I am guilty of long pause refactoring. A new book by Kent Beck! Thank you for sharing :)
@WhisperII4 ай бұрын
Probably, in some time, the term 'tidy' would have same connotation as refactoring
@langhamp89124 ай бұрын
The Boy Scout principle and the "don't break it" can be resolved somewhat easily (but enjoyably!) by having adequate code coverage on your unit tests, but it's extremely hard to convince programmers to use unit tests. It's virtually impossible to refactor even fairly simple programs without unit tests, but it's easy to write, rewrite, and refactor even fairly complex programs with unit tests. I personally avoid big refactoring such as splitting or combining classes until I have a better understanding of the information they represent, but I do notice if I just go ahead and refactor then I end up with a much better understanding of the information. I do lots of little refactors, though, but I make sure each path is thoroughly unit tested.
@NostraDavid24 ай бұрын
Boy Scouting is hard to enforce. For context: we have over 50 repos, 30+ of those are your regular applications (the rest is configuration, gitops, rollout scripts for our alerting system, documentation, or config backups). So I've built an internal tool to be able to apply a refactoring to all our repos in one go (clone all our repos into a local folder, switch them to a branch, apply a script to all repos, add and push the change, and even open up a PR with one or more team mates to review). Now we can boyscout all out repos in one go.
@sp3ctum4 ай бұрын
@@NostraDavid2 sounds like you are applying some automation that performs the refactorings. Is this some kind of AST transformation, perhaps? Just curious as I have written a couple of small ones for single repositories within the last year.
@langhamp89124 ай бұрын
@@NostraDavid2 My biggest concern is convincing people to even use unit testing so refactoring can occur safely, and not the specific process of refactoring. And I can understand their viewpoint as it took about 2 years to convince me unit testing was important, and only because I was required to. It's hard to articulate to others just how important unit tests are, and how they make programming so much easier with much less code breakage. I feel large programs eventually get "frozen" as any small change has large effects, but unit tested programs don't seem to suffer from such problems.
@Souljacker74 ай бұрын
I don't care, I'll buy it because of the cat!
@gui.ferreira4 ай бұрын
Sponsored by Whiskas 😉
@TijgerPapa4 ай бұрын
Talking about a book for 10 minutes without giving any information 🙄, just opinions. So how do you look now on those contradicting ideas? You said the book gave you a new perspective, but how? What is your perspective now? And price? You say it's expensive. How expensive? What's expensive for you may not be expensive for me. And yes, I can Google it. But I'm here, now, you're talking about it. Why not just say it?
@hugosales81024 ай бұрын
Portugal mencionado?? The book seems relatively good, but seeing as though it's connected to TDD and Clean code, I think it's gonna be a miss from me