This Burrow Strategy Is Insanely Strong... (Zerg Cheese to Rank 1)

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[@tom4ivo]

Mark: I'm a Terran player at heart; well, realistically, I'm switching more and more to being a Zerg player. Mark, the Infested Terran.

[@GomiBombs]

He's been neuraled

[@Twinkletoastable]

His Terran Goblin Mode translates to zerg so well!

[@Toast_94]

A mule mines 25 minerals per trip and is able to make 8-9 trips before it expires, collecting 200-225 minerals over its life. In that first game oppo scanned a total of 13 times, so oppo effectively lost out on 2600-2925 minerals that could have harvested by mules. Of those 13 scans, 2 were for scouting (the first one when oppo broke the proxy hatch, the second to get vision of the high ground where their cyclones were going) and one was for detection during a fight (just after the roaches ambushed the cyclones), the rest were strictly for creep clear. So if you only count those 10 scans then those creep tumours baited oppo into losing out on 2000-2250 minerals (not including the time spent by their third CC hovering over the creep not producing any SCVs). They already had the tech requirements to spend 100 minerals and 150 gas to build a raven even before the first creep clear scan.

[@IcariumGaming]

I will never understand scanning for creep in early game and mid game. Late game when you have like 10 orbitals. The only exception I see is if you are on the opponent's side of the map early, with some hellions/marines and want to delay the creep spread. By the time the opponent left his base there was already too much to justify the scans.

[@icecream6256]

Raven mentioned. Lowko proud

[@Toast_94]

@@icecream6256 Thanks, I try. :3

[@davecolwell725]

Playing all 3 races is really lifting your content. I'm enjoying your content so much lately.

[@maximk9964]

Would you say it's a *groundbreaking* strategy?

[@repit5014]

Get out.. Of the ground

[@frankpork7665]

I can dig it.

[@thisisntfireemblem9055]

Rock solid pun

[@Nico_Dica]

🗿🗿

[@IcariumGaming]

​@@repit5014If he has any decency he would see himself out... Of the ground.

[@MrMcSnuffyFluffy]

"Wait, why is the overlord there?" Man, that never gets old.

[@cyberkekosis]

overlords don't get old too

[@blakedurrant9399]

Speaking for myself I watch it all as I am just a fan of good SC2 gameplay and you always deliver. Imagine naming yourself ggmachine, getting taken to Zerg school, and then not giving you the gg.

[@Hosenbivad]

ggmachine is actually i think only 14 years old. He streams on twitch regularly

[@ryanpcollins]

Hey Thermy! I think that a Random to Rank 1 challenge sounds incredible. There isn’t much in the way of Random-specific content out there, so I think it may be a relatively untapped niche. I also think you can come up with some decent thumbnails and video titles that capitalize on the chaos / unknown factor of Random matches - stuff like “Protoss player never expected Random Ultralisks” or “RNG says it’s time to Widowmine” etc.

[@ichbintoll7128]

yes I would watch, your clickbait ideas sound good :D

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

And a thumbnail split image of two clickbaity game moments side by side with different races.

[@kindlin]

@@Compulsive_LARPer The _DoUbLe ClIcKbAiT!1!1!_

[@Bump33]

❤

[@bookworm8415]

Random wheel to rank one would be terrifying to play against.

[@HappyTwoBe]

5:49 the zergling moved because you tried burrowing a spine on top of it.

[@nickxplore4265]

Beat me to it man

[@EdnipFrostbeard]

17:02 "I thought there was a group of people who only click on zerg videos" I am in the group that only clicks on Marc videos, race doesn't matter to me.

[@altonito777]

Same for me ! New uthermal video = I click !

[@LorasInSpace]

Watching this makes me think of Serral and his cheesevolution of play. Have you considered the 15/15 Hatch/Pool build for more of the crazy amount of possible (cheesy) stuff you can do with that? I feel like there's still many things about Zerg that hasn't been properly explored, like mid-to-late game spine-spore forests to steer and bog down advances, and macro hatches in unorthodox positions to cement harder to defend positions between bases. Edit: Oh! Also any type of strangle build would be fun to see where the goal is to target as many supply depots/pylons/overlords as possible. Can't fight back if you can't have an army.

[@Neceros]

Being absurd has drastically improved your reactionary skills. Watching you almost lose 3 times, but then win is just amazing. You just judge a situation and make subtle changes to it to account for your enemy.

[@genehenson8851]

I feel like we’ve been building up to a Random to GM series all this time. I’m happy to watch you play any race.

[@LiliumAtratum]

05:47 That zergling that moved without reason - it moved to make place for your spine crawler to burrow.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

I am quite sure that you can put burrow and unburrow in the same key, in the options. There’s a flag that you have to toggle in order to allow it first. No need to edit the file for this.

[@altonito777]

Random to GM sounds awesome to me, and feels like I know what to expect even if it's multiple races.

[@Neceros]

17:15 you started talking about what I was thinking. I tend to watch more zerg than others, but I do end up watching all of the spicy videos. I think a random play through is a good idea. At least just to give it a try. If people aren't into it you will know I guess. I'm interested in seeing how it could be.

[@Geek-a-Zoid]

I don't really play SC2 multiplayer, but for me I don't really care about what type or who you play. I enjoy watching because of how entertaining you are! I have even started trying out a little multiplayer training. I appreciate all the work you put into your videos, it seems like love playing and it shows :)

[@Wezelkonijn]

26:33, man... that ravager portrait went HAM!

[@Rynosnoborder]

The roach/burrow combo is so cool. I'm surprised it isn't already meta with how strong it is.

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

I've seen Serral winning games with really nasty Tunneling Claws builds a couple of times.

[@brentmantel141]

Mark: I watch pretty much all your videos (Sometimes I skip the one unit challenges or the vs AI videos), and while I'm a Zerg player, your style and commentary make any race enjoyable for me. Don't worry about titles and Random race videos. People will still watch.

[@sinner5452]

As a tradition to translate cyrillic names: дуршлаг (doorshlag) means colander. Good job as always Termy, keep it up!

[@TheMelnTeam]

One of these reminded me of the long run of AlphaStar games as Zerg where it just did a roach ravager all in timing against everyone lol.

[@blobbfish9412]

17:30 just call the Series Random Rampage and whoever has seen any of your silly goose stuff will totally know what to expect. Or actually not know what to expect and watch it because of that.

[@ButtKraken01]

Your zerg is getting so strong! I never thought I'd see the day where you spread creep nonironically.

[@arhonvalran1551]

I think we can say: This Terran was infested :P

[@oniceguard9205]

@@arhonvalran1551 Uthermal now is stukov

[@timecorn]

From HIS OWN base too! Who replaced him with a robot? 😂

[@Tsnafu]

I don't even notice what the thumbnail is - I see a uThermal SC2 vid, I click it

[@shastarpharune]

I was watching a serral stream where he came up against you and you said you were a fan of his, after that he relised you were uthermal and his play style instantly changed he went from just having fun to im gonna take this seriously and you could see his play stlye change it was interesting to see him change his play style.

[@JohnHapi1]

I think what’s interesting about Rando to R1 is you can showcase pro-level mind games and bluffs that you naturally get when someone doesn’t know what race you are immediately.

[@NullVoidNA]

I am a simple man. I see uThermal, I click. I enjoy watching your zerg the most but I watch your channel daily regardless because of your shenanigans. I don't play sc2, I haven't since heart of the swarm. I'm not even an RTS fan. Watching you baffle your opponents and cheese them to death with quick improvisions and uncommon tactics is the real entertainment. 🍿

[@lordminsc24]

No matter where you settle on being a terran, protoss, zerg, or random player, you will always be THE silly goose player!

[@inthefade]

'Silly Goose' would be a good name for his Random to GM challenge.

[@Bump33]

Random to rank 1 sounds very fun. To be fair the wheel is fun, but ive been vibing really hard with the zerg and protoss games and most the challenges are terran. Id like to see the challenge wheel come back after there are more challenges with zerg and toss.

[@matthewsemenuk8953]

If only in game 1 that terran scanned to see the switch out of mutas instead of scanning tumors. GJ Marc for tricking him into making more cyclones.

[@HeavyLiftGaming]

The tunneling claws! How have we not seen this yet?! What a crushing play. 😂

[@nickhigginsmusic]

Random to rank 1 would be awesome! I have been loving your expansion into zerg and protoss recently and feel like random is your true calling

[@Octopie18]

I am definitely a zerg biased viewer. Love the unique playstyles and stratagies you can do: ling drops, corrupter pissin, burrowed roaches, lurker drops, spine rushes

[@galaxeon797]

Burrow roaches are great! 18 roaches at 5:17 is pretty good by it self

[@LyuboRyuk]

Awesome episode! I like you freestyling with Zerg. Yes, it is my favorite race. And I also like watching Protos and Terran ❤

[@Neceros]

Thank you for using more burrow. Showcasing a side of zerg that is so under utilized

[@XfStef]

Supply Blocker to GM would be the most AMAZING series!

[@jacobbreitinger6789]

I'm sure you thought of it but at the end of the video title you could put something like (Random to Rank 1 3T-0P-1Z) to show what factions got played by the random choices. Only big downside is the title becomes pretty long. Thanks for the regular content also!

[@kyle52245]

Hey Marc, one idea to not lose followers of a certain race might be to come up with a "Random specific" title...... something like "Random cheese (TTZP) Roaches can't be stopped!!" then at least your terran followers would know there is some terran content in there

[@SD....]

As a viewer, no downside to watching you random. Will watch videos regardless of the race!

[@serv-on]

Nah watching you evolve the dif races has been sweet, random to 1 would be cool

[@mphailey]

Hi Marc, I think you should definitely do a random to rank 1 series on NA. It’s time! I feel like your channel took off when you did the bong cloud series where you were doing a silly build and making magic. Forget about click bait and races in the thumbnail and just keep having fun. You are a god

[@balazshajdu4612]

About the random vid debate, I am a hardcore zerg player never offraced ever, and still whatch all your toss and terran vids, not sure if I am alone with this but I belive all of your vids are so entertaining, and it is SC2 topic no matter the race or the challenge... for me at least, so I would welcome a road to rank 1 with random series! You rock!

[@HappyTwoBe]

26:40, omg its MGK on his new account MaChine!

[@stickmasterlukeRBX]

The rocks move on their own at 31:27

[@JasonRobards2]

Would it work as a series to commentate your cheese games from the opponent's perspective?

[@cawcasian820]

the irony of the self-named GgMachine child prodigy was not lost on me

[@da_Father_figure]

Could you contaminate the factory before the cyclone comes out ? Or use that feature to frustrate them?

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

There are times when simply using the spine on the depot is better than attacking the scvs, especially if you don't feel you can break the Terran anyway - because the repair costs will prevent them from building a bigger army.

[@deropl2667]

i always watch every video u upload i don't wanna the grandmaster series gone :( any race to grandmaster is really good content. Greetings from Spirit Country

[@SBOG4215]

Happy to watch you play any race!

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

I did know that about the burrow hotkey - they did the same thing with the spines I think...?

[@etherscholar]

I love watching all the races equally, random's fine by me. That last game was so dirty haha

[@Worldwave]

the guy's name in the first game is basically (Elephant's Trunk) - Mesh Sieve lmao

[@eclipseeffigy]

My favorite part of proxy hatch is when you start droning up and mining their natural. 😂

[@yeokc8757]

You should bind your units the moment you make them btw. Ctrl left click on the eggs as you make each set of units and control group them

[@kuubilal]

Not making a raven and instead scanning so many times has to be one of the dumbest mistakes I've seen in that MMR range lmao

[@AB-ri5ix]

He had a sensory tower, too. Should've seen it coming

[@LuckyCharmSeb]

Because you are now pretty good with Zerg i was hoping that you do a X to GM with it! Id love to see the strats you would come up with a limited set of Zerg units like Viper/Bane only for example.

[@rickyandwill]

regarding the concern of off races not necessarily wanting the click bait of another race I think you can sell it with "Which race is giving me the W's (Terran, Zerg, Protoss) to Grandmaster"

[@jonfox4022]

I've been watching so much of this uThermal that I'm starting to pick up his Sweedish accent. I don't even play SCII anymore lol.

[@hangover89]

Except he's not swedish lol, he's dutch

[@jonfox4022]

@@hangover89Oh that's my bad. I don't know much about languages but that's cool, Denmark seems like a pretty neat place.

[@salamalkebab8377]

@@jonfox4022I can't tell whether that's a joke or not :D

[@brabebhin368]

I had to rewind the video cause i couldn't believe a proxy hatchery at GM level. Nice work.

[@JoeMendez579]

Can you be like 3 different races at the same time vs 9 golds or something like that?

[@ninjamuffin289]

As a zerg main since 2012 I love seeing you play the race

[@Cheng798536]

That Roach burrow timing is crazy

[@ike0072]

Always crazy to me that zergs dont perma upgrade overlords x2 and burrow. Just adds multiple depth / layers of danger, traps, cheeses and makes overseers insanely fast.

[@GomiBombs]

I was a bit scared for you going roach vs roach hydra for a min cuz i thought he was going to go lurker or push before you had ravagers. Sick biles and even if he went lurker the biles could have dealt with them.

[@IamCrusaderRUS]

When is your second channel coming back if at all? Spinning the wheel feels like something uThermal2 would do.

[@EpicPrims]

Hey Marc, about Random to GM you can film them normally and edit the vids in 3 sections. terran, prot, zerg and upload them as they come together so you"ll have like Random Terran to gm😂

[@Belhun]

The most iv seen UThermal Spread Creep today, insane hes evolveing ;)

[@cpurdham]

Random to rank one with race specific challenge wheels on the fly.

[@MrGlugz]

Looks like the GG machine was fresh out of GGs.

[@fartdemon450]

Random to rank 1 idea: group the random videos together by race.

[@nathaniellapic]

I don't even play this game, but I really enjoy watching it. You say you couldn't clickbait a random video, but that in itself is clickbait. I just watch for your content, not any race or strategy specific gameplay.

[@maximilianosotomayorga4977]

came for the terran. stayed for the gorgonzola

[@charlloss123]

I didn't know they changed the burrow for the two buttons, bizzare xD

[@SEVYN_Q]

Play whatever you want, enjoy watching you play regardless.

[@lashoes2207]

marc, your videos are a delight, insane talent

[@IamKnucks]

26:39 how can you have a name like ggmachine and not GG.

[@blue-phoenix115]

Didn't know Burrow Roach hard counters mass Cyclones this badly

[@EmilKlingberg]

@uThermal I would do a poll and ask if people really only watch one race. I watch the content because you are entertaining, You could be playing Darksouls and i would still watch.

[@phineasfaber5159]

uThermal make a 2-3 splitty thumbnail with a capture from each game. As long as 2+ races are present it should probably satisfy the clicks.

[@farenvanwyk5587]

Personally I click on your video because I like your personality and game play no matter what race you play. Thank you for the joy my man

[@LLC008]

I love uThermal, what a down to earth guy

[@abualborz]

i,m not a Sc2 pro player or something. I only played campaign and COOP commanders. But i know that you can click on Overloard when they r getting rdy to pop out and rally them to some point instead of the rally point of the towncenter . Maybe Uthernal need to know this to stop his " mark move " haha.

[@amythystmiriel]

I absolutely wanna see you play Random in a tournament, really throw off the casters and your opponents.

[@Guyinkgo]

Spinning wheel or random to rank 1... I don't know what sounds more exciting! 😂

[@squidikka]

The fact that the barcode was the only one that gg'd lol.

[@kos2924]

Hey Thermy, love your style. Keep it up please :)

[@RAYarkley]

I loved the game play but i think the last one with burrow was soo good and would love to see that a few more times ::))

[@lemayai]

How about making a triple thumbnail for the random to rank 1 challenge?

[@adamortiz9733]

thumbnail for random series must include a hybrid terran zerg protos unit

[@calvyoel1515]

What if you also did a 3rd hatch outside, further from vision canceled it into a spine, did it for the 4th drone, so u can be possibly WALking them in when the hatch finishes? Is that possible? Lol Not a zerg player, so can't test it, how bout this:

[@eclipseeffigy]

They walk and burrow very slow so I don't think it's even going to be faster lol

[@calvyoel1515]

Hmm, 1 walking spine rush? I can't be the only one that sees the potential. Heh. I honestly would love to see a couple of spines walk from no land, while I barely held the expansion, lings finishing. If I was a z player I would do that at least once or try

[@calvyoel1515]

Either way, I think uthermal should play random, every tournament forward? Heh I have faith he might be the first to pull it off!:)

[@coasterphreak]

Random to Rank 1 would be hilarious, especially if you play under a name that makes it really obvious it's you

[@Jn-bh9pidud73]

Random Rank 1 sounds fire. But the people crave the Ultrasssss. (Or maybe just me)

[@TeslaGengar]

that last game was nuts!!

[@fred.dekker]

great games, watch every race you play

[@zeeuwlander]

Why no baneLings in first match?

[@Jackbrick101]

I'd watch your random games, sounds great to me!