This Could’ve Changed Air Travel Forever

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In the late 1950’s, intercity air travel was on the rise. But while a trip from New York to Boston by airplane might only take about an hour, you’d still need to get to and from the airport. And in many congested cities, that was already taking longer than the flight itself. As a solution, helicopter airlines had begun to crop up in major cities, letting passengers skip over traffic to connect airports with their city centers. But helicopters were ultimately too inefficient to become a viable form of mass transport. The Rotodyne was going to change all that. Taking off from downtown rooftops and heliports, but flying faster, further, and more economically than any helicopter, the Rotodyne would be the quickest way to move from one city centre to the next.
The Rotodyne might have looked like part helicopter, part plane, but it was actually neither. Where a helicopter uses engine power to spin a rotor blade to force air down and create lift, on a Rotodyne the large rotor wasn’t directly driven by a motor. Instead it used a freely-spinning rotor called an autogyro. As air passed naturally through the rotor blades during flight, it caused the rotor spin around like a pinwheel to create lift. The Rotodyne still had wings and a pair of turboprops much like an airplane. But in forward flight, the unpowered spinning rotor lifted more than half the aircraft’s weight. To take off and land vertically and hover, tip jets at the end of each rotor blade would be used to spin up the Rotodyne’s rotor. Once in forward flight, the tip jets were shut off and the rotor would once again spin freely.
When the first Rotodyne prototype took to the skies, it could carry 40 passengers over 700km and reach speeds of over 300km/h, all while being able to land and take off on a space not much larger than the aircraft itself. And after 350 successful test flights, the Rotodyne proved to be safe and capable. But despite plans for an even larger more powerful version, a combination of noise concerns and lack of government support for research and development ultimately led to cancellation of the project.
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@MustardChannel
@MustardChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Hi all - as some viewers are pointing out, it's a mistake to describe a 133 dB to 96 dB reduction as 15%. It's much more than that, as decibels are a logarithmic unit. Sorry for letting that error slip in and any confusion (note that 96dB is still incredibly loud).
@qadarinimo258
@qadarinimo258 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about the international space station and the Mir space station
@ChrisPrefect
@ChrisPrefect 5 жыл бұрын
17db reduction is almost 8 times less noise! So a reduction of about 85%.
@CrazyHorse151
@CrazyHorse151 5 жыл бұрын
Well it reduced the noise level by 15%. The whole reason we use dB is to use perceptually linear scales. (EDIT: sound pressure level in dB is not perceptually linear. Sone is. F*ed that up) What you wanted to express is that the -perceived- noise level was reduced by 15% and that is in fact the case. Converting to linear levels, we get a far greater reduction but who cares when we don't perceive the difference as such?
@Henchman1977
@Henchman1977 5 жыл бұрын
I was just going to point that out.....
@sukhoifan
@sukhoifan 5 жыл бұрын
*113dB, not 133 while i am being nitpicky once again. :P Still wish you had that awesome Energia-Buran thumbnail picture in high res. :( (asked you a while back about it on twitter, but largest available one was still quite small)
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 4 жыл бұрын
"...and it all went to s$%t" That took me completely off guard.
@mojo5093
@mojo5093 4 жыл бұрын
lmao, yeah that was classic :D
@JozMkII
@JozMkII 4 жыл бұрын
Seemed really out of place; He could have said ‘it went down the toilet’ to keep it PG-rated, without the need to hastily censor a word that we’re all going to recognize anyway.
@maniacram
@maniacram 4 жыл бұрын
JozMk. II ok boomer
@livingcorpse5664
@livingcorpse5664 4 жыл бұрын
@Prometheus I disagree. I think adults today are rude and kids are polite. Oh wait you meant swearing. Eh, it's whatever.
@textech4056
@textech4056 4 жыл бұрын
I love it when someone tells it like it is...or was..:)
@randomroughneck1030
@randomroughneck1030 4 жыл бұрын
Why does the British government need to destroy all useful engineering documents of cancelled projects damnit!
@ijpg-fd7qn
@ijpg-fd7qn 4 жыл бұрын
That's the one part I really don't get. There wouldn't be any hassle in just releasing the docs to the public, and they could have even sold them to some other company in the US or something but they decided to just toss them?
@HakunaMatata88
@HakunaMatata88 4 жыл бұрын
More likely somebody have hidden agenda
@62peppe62
@62peppe62 4 жыл бұрын
More or less the same story of the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow fighter jet.
@SlavicUnionGaming
@SlavicUnionGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Random Roughneck Russias eastern sides could use this, Runways are not so common there
@danielrodriguez248
@danielrodriguez248 4 жыл бұрын
The US also
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 4 жыл бұрын
It should be illegal to destroy research. Maybe shoehorn it into protections on financial records?
@owls6514
@owls6514 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@antdx316
@antdx316 4 жыл бұрын
People have destroyed 3D development because they make no money off ads when people feel disoriented and focus on the 3D more than the ads that make them money.
@ericvalverderosado2046
@ericvalverderosado2046 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Engineers can get what they need from them and make something better!
@karlosbricks2413
@karlosbricks2413 4 жыл бұрын
Fear of this rather useful technology falling into Soviet hands, I'd imagine it could make a good troop transport/lander if further developed (where noise no longer matters). So destroying something may be shortsighted given the work and lack of any ROI you'll get, given the risk of the reds though, they must have just thought this way was better.
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlosbricks2413/videos Destroy prototypes and manufacturing tooling sure, but keep the paperwork and data squirreled away somewhere safe.
@greatflyer_aviation
@greatflyer_aviation 3 жыл бұрын
TIP JETS? That is insane technology!
@dravskii
@dravskii 3 жыл бұрын
E
@itsmaxiiii1605
@itsmaxiiii1605 3 жыл бұрын
But won’t be it to be too heavy for it and disturbing the lifting force?
@a.vanwijk2268
@a.vanwijk2268 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's not. In the 1950's the Nederlandse Helikopter Industrie built a small helicopter that way. Not sure if if there's footage on YT, but has an entry in Wikipedia
@jackywhite880
@jackywhite880 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming a system that works, tip thrusters are an excellent way to power helicopter rotors. There's no torque. Thats why the Rotodyne didn't need a tail rotor. The tiny Fairey Ultralight helicopter used a tip jet system back in the 50s. Its abandonment, once again, had more to do with politics than engineering.
@starwarsfan_1206
@starwarsfan_1206 3 жыл бұрын
This joke?
@TallulahSoie
@TallulahSoie 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like a technology that should be revisited.
@Rogerv1032
@Rogerv1032 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true. But when governments and such are stable.
@gompye1834
@gompye1834 3 жыл бұрын
Totally. If this was developed in the 1960s then think about how better it could be today
@Spinattitude
@Spinattitude 3 жыл бұрын
It will soon be superceded by electric drones.
@gompye1834
@gompye1834 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spinattitude what kinds of drones
@TobiasHinz1992
@TobiasHinz1992 3 жыл бұрын
Would be perfect for military use
@n_tag9498
@n_tag9498 5 жыл бұрын
Me: you returned? Even after all this time? Mustard: of course, child. I never left. Me: *sheds a tear*
@buscentral900
@buscentral900 5 жыл бұрын
Aka. "I'm glad you're back"
@mro9466
@mro9466 5 жыл бұрын
Accurate description of my feelings
@lukewood9210
@lukewood9210 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@BillKermanKSP
@BillKermanKSP 5 жыл бұрын
he really never was gone, seems like the videos just get uploaded in a 2 month interval now
@rjmj7725
@rjmj7725 4 жыл бұрын
@@buscentral900 nice to meet u bic'ts !! 😁😀😂
@holthogan5562
@holthogan5562 5 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of the Rotodyne. Man I love this channel.
@SYNERGYMIKE
@SYNERGYMIKE 5 жыл бұрын
me 2
@spencerhardy8667
@spencerhardy8667 5 жыл бұрын
It's tragic that generations have been denied Airfix.
@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm
@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because the rododyne never existed.
@holthogan5562
@holthogan5562 5 жыл бұрын
@@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm That probably contributed to me not knowing of it.
@Jaxxal.
@Jaxxal. 5 жыл бұрын
Holt Hogan that’s because it’s the Rotodyne not the rododyne
@andrewhawkings5198
@andrewhawkings5198 3 жыл бұрын
It almost physically hurts to see this beautiful thing to to waste. Couldn't they just resurrect the project and use today's advancements and technologies to fix the 60 year old issues?
@Coillcara
@Coillcara 3 жыл бұрын
No. In general, old technologies need to be re-engineered. I would imagine the safety standards would be different, as well as manufacturing methods. Analogy: you want to make an arrow, and have the best stone age arrow as an example; since you have no skill in cleaving obsidian, your stone arrow head will never be as good, but you can make a better steel head and make it faster with the available tools.
@Outlier999
@Outlier999 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coillcara Agreed, but the basic design is still viable and the concept is a good 👍 one. This would be a valuable aircraft for short flights. Your analogy with arrows is a good one, because the improvements and changes needed were not insurmountable.
@Garlan4
@Garlan4 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coillcara as much as i apreciate the look of the original machine, the point of the argument is to look back to this "concept" and translate it on modern design. Today we have new materials and solution to make this idea to work. Of course it will not have the same form. But the concept is still interesting
@Ryvaken
@Ryvaken 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, this thing was being compared against helicopters, not fixed wing aircraft. There's no reason to suppose this design would be relevant. And I'm looking at a machine with too many conspicuous points of failure to go trusting it with human lives.
@voidofspaceandtime4684
@voidofspaceandtime4684 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coillcara How much different do you think the design would be, really? It's semantics to get into an argument about the incredible specificities between manufacturing of the 60s and today. Most of the groundwork is still the same.
@tovsteh
@tovsteh 5 жыл бұрын
5:08 Gotta love the test pilot gear back in the day: Suit and hat.
@bigstupidgrin
@bigstupidgrin 5 жыл бұрын
And probably a pre-flight drink or two
@troyt6532
@troyt6532 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about the spinning blades 2 ft from his head
@truthseeker8483
@truthseeker8483 5 жыл бұрын
When men were men...not hair bun wearing pansies
@MarshallBananar
@MarshallBananar 5 жыл бұрын
What's even better is that that is Igor Sikorsky (if I'm not mistaken), the inventor of this specific helicopter and one of the most influential American pioneers of the technology The man invented it, learned how to pilot it, and tested it himself All the while wearing a suit and a fedora on every occasion What an absolute baller
@nqh4393
@nqh4393 5 жыл бұрын
A real gentleman.
@emancoy
@emancoy 4 жыл бұрын
With today's technology, a quieter version can be made today.
@williamw2529
@williamw2529 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And one that's more aerodynamic, and faster, and lighter, and...
@imhorny169
@imhorny169 4 жыл бұрын
No drones are superior.
@emancoy
@emancoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@imhorny169 drones are basically any remote controlled aircraft, this rotodyne can be one.
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 4 жыл бұрын
@@emancoy A remote controlled aircraft/helicopter, that sounds like it could work
@foxkinggaming3540
@foxkinggaming3540 4 жыл бұрын
It would be made obsolete as soon it as it rolled of the assembly line
@MagicznaPanda
@MagicznaPanda 4 жыл бұрын
6:54 Small correction - since sound is on a logarithmic scale, the reduction in noise wasn't by 15%, *but rather by 86%*
@MagicznaPanda
@MagicznaPanda 4 жыл бұрын
​@DT Undercover The loudness of a helicopter is about 85.5dB from 600 feet away - so if the rotodyne was to be no louder than a helicopter, it'd have to reduce its noise by 96% from the original (or 70% from the already revised version).
@MagicznaPanda
@MagicznaPanda 4 жыл бұрын
@DT UndercoverYeah, something like 99.7%
@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies
@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies 4 жыл бұрын
@@MagicznaPanda SPL (sound pressure level; typically measured in dB) decreases with distance, like any other wave. Specifying a dB level without specifying the distance from the source is meaningless. Usually when they say "90 dB", they mean "90 dB @ 1 meter". Your 85.5 dB @ 600 ft would be hella loud @ 1 m.
@numalesoybea1348
@numalesoybea1348 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get the 86% exactly? It should be more like 98%
@CherrySmith
@CherrySmith 4 жыл бұрын
even though the sound intensity has reduced by 86%, we’ll still perceive the loudness as 15% less
@jonathanhill4892
@jonathanhill4892 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, when I was a boy, the sound of the Rotodyne. There was nothing like it. When you saw it flying over you felt like you were seeing the future. And perhaps it could have been, but it was too much ahead of its time.
@saravanakumar-tw6yr
@saravanakumar-tw6yr 3 жыл бұрын
Skkwkskskskwkwks yyou suck
@oadka
@oadka 3 жыл бұрын
Man you're a lucky person
@PinoyPickUps
@PinoyPickUps 3 жыл бұрын
How old are you?
@jonathanhill4892
@jonathanhill4892 3 жыл бұрын
@@PinoyPickUps Being born in 1954, I am quite old enough to remember the late 50s and early 60s. Beyond that, don't be impertinent:)
@PinoyPickUps
@PinoyPickUps 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanhill4892 Ow I see, thank you for sharing that. Im just happy to know that even at your age there are people that are still active in the KZbin community. I hope when I'll get old, I will still be sharp just like you.
@toinfinityandbeyond2082
@toinfinityandbeyond2082 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like out of all the failed projects this one is the only one im like damn thatd be cool as hell and i genuinly think it would work
@FlyLeah
@FlyLeah 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Ekranoplans. Utilizing ground effect is far more efficient than any airplane. Best part is that it gets even more efficient and reliable the bigger the craft gets
@toinfinityandbeyond2082
@toinfinityandbeyond2082 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyLeah as someone who currently works as an aircraft mechanic, the maintenance with that many engines and salt water that close to the ground makes those things a tactical nightmare, not only that but like the video says, controlling the ground effect makes them super difficult, maybe on a smaller scale they might work but as large military purposes I don't think it's feasible
@Mittens0407
@Mittens0407 3 жыл бұрын
@@toinfinityandbeyond2082 About the stability issues I've heard its the opposite. Supposedly, the larger the Ekranoplan is the higher and more stable it flew.
@NormAppleton
@NormAppleton 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is the trans sonic barrier at the tips of all rotary wing aircraft. There is no way around it. This is why the only non jet powered high speed VTOL aircraft are things like the Osprey.
@salvagemonster3612
@salvagemonster3612 3 жыл бұрын
And that is what we need more Gen Z’ers giving us their opinion
@Luminite-hx3zs
@Luminite-hx3zs 4 жыл бұрын
Innovative engineer: *Exists* Britain: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."
@Luminite-hx3zs
@Luminite-hx3zs 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stealthy_Sloth That's unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that.
@Parzival-sg2kl
@Parzival-sg2kl 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is underrated.
@TheCUTTERbyPHOENIX
@TheCUTTERbyPHOENIX 4 жыл бұрын
take my upvote mate ! Also dead meme !
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how the British government seemingly went out of their way to destroy their own aviation industry.
@raymonds7492
@raymonds7492 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stealthy_Sloth that is a really interesting tale. please continue.
@shenlun
@shenlun 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to bring this back in today's technologies this should fit in just fine, including fixing the tip jet problem
@Vladdy89
@Vladdy89 3 жыл бұрын
Why? There are lots of airfields now in the World. Absolutely useless and inefficient thing.
@shenlun
@shenlun 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vladdy89 I thought the idea of using less fuel was a good idea
@Vladdy89
@Vladdy89 3 жыл бұрын
@@shenlun It's still gonna be inefficient. And extremely loud.
@dolphindaily5271
@dolphindaily5271 3 жыл бұрын
@@shenlun modern planes Are still better
@Lildizzle420
@Lildizzle420 3 жыл бұрын
look up lillium jet test flight
@cedricye1767
@cedricye1767 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the dassalt mecure was selling well
@Alvaricokemaureira
@Alvaricokemaureira 5 жыл бұрын
jajajajajajajaja good one
@ianr
@ianr 5 жыл бұрын
LOL Great comment Cedric! 😂
@Yautah
@Yautah 5 жыл бұрын
It was just a Mirage.
@toasterbathboi6298
@toasterbathboi6298 5 жыл бұрын
Cedric Ye so, you were never early then?
@timothydaly2152
@timothydaly2152 5 жыл бұрын
Intellectuals will get this👍
@Jigamanx2
@Jigamanx2 5 жыл бұрын
“Oh we aren’t going to be able to build this, let’s destroy millions in R&D instead of putting it in a shelf and trying it with new tech later down the line” WHY DO COMPANIES DO THIS!?!?!?!?
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
The company would have been under instructions from the government most likely. The British Government especially had a habit of ordering prototypes and tooling destroyed.
@Admiral_Jezza
@Admiral_Jezza 5 жыл бұрын
@@ptonpc But why though?
@betelgeuse7645
@betelgeuse7645 5 жыл бұрын
@@Admiral_Jezza Because they are fools.
@allanadam4553
@allanadam4553 5 жыл бұрын
Same in America, all tooling for the C-17 is gone, same for many of the fighters built in the 80’s and 90’s, deliver the last one and destroy all the tooling, you can’t even make spares to keep planes you still have flying. A-10 tooling is gone, Boeing is actually having to rebuild wings instead of building new and it costs way more.
@poodlescone9700
@poodlescone9700 5 жыл бұрын
Government bureaucrats.
@airraid9614
@airraid9614 5 жыл бұрын
“It all went to shBLEEP” Me: surprised pikachu
@boywoofie
@boywoofie 5 жыл бұрын
I actually made the face too when I heard it lol almost thought I misheard it. lmao
@j.mccreath5631
@j.mccreath5631 5 жыл бұрын
Ah a man of culture I see
@Zakalwe-01
@Zakalwe-01 5 жыл бұрын
I actually thought he was going to use the classic British engineering term ‘It’s all gone tits-up’. He didn’t, but ironically it had.
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that was hilarious.
@BleachJuice21
@BleachJuice21 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@LunringNassar
@LunringNassar Жыл бұрын
I genuinely hate how this aircraft didn't succeed, it should really be reconsidered.
@АлексЭколог
@АлексЭколог 10 ай бұрын
Я думаю, могу спроектировать лучше, если будет спрос.
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 8 ай бұрын
and moreso, i hate how it almost got a chance of succeeding, hell IT HAD ORDERS unlike alot of these. they just got colossally shafted by a government that only wanted more of the same boring crap and mergers that likely sore ceos telling the teams to kiss actual inovation goodbye
@80HDpilled
@80HDpilled 8 ай бұрын
I feel like this would be the perfect model for flying cars as it removes the need for a runway
@edwardhandley1132
@edwardhandley1132 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the Rotodyne flying over our house! The Rotodyne was based at a small airfield called White Waltham just outside Maidenhead and as a child we lived on the direct line between White Waltham and Farnborough which was the base of the British Aircraft Establishment. On several occasions we heard the distinct sound of the Rotodyne flying over and dashed outside to watch it go over. Yes, it was noisy, but so were most aircraft at that time, especially the big jets like the Boeing 707. The difference was the big jets landed at airports outside the city centres so did not fly low over the houses, except of course the ones on the flight path into the airports. People these days forget how noisy those old aircraft were! A few years ago I heard a racket and went outside to see what it was and was treated to the sight of a Dreamliner on its way to the Farnborough Airshow escorted by a Spitfire and a Hurricane. I could barely hear the Dreamliner - the racket was all being made by the Merlins. A beautiful racket though!
@kbryce14
@kbryce14 4 жыл бұрын
edward Handley That’s a lot to read..
@Coreylahey1000
@Coreylahey1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thats an amazing read. Thanks!
@nancygreene5838
@nancygreene5838 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, interesting! Thanks for sharing.
@Yawyna124
@Yawyna124 4 жыл бұрын
@@kbryce14 Wha-- no that's not. It's two short paragraphs that are neatly and pleasantly structured.
@larushka1
@larushka1 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Me too. Just posted. This is awesome.
@ryanm.191
@ryanm.191 5 жыл бұрын
So this was basically a massive gyrocopter? Not going to lie, that’s awesome
@paraandro
@paraandro 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan M. Yes, at cruise. But gyrocopters are not able to take off vertically. Imagine a gyrocopter in this size with a rotor that is not powered by something. Technically interesting but I don't think that it will make any sense. 🤔🙂
@VaughnDavisTV
@VaughnDavisTV 5 жыл бұрын
No, the video is completely wrong about that. The rotor was powered but by very noisy rotor-tip jets.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
Vaughn Davis Wrong. The video has it absolutely correct and it’s easy to read other sources as well. It’s described as a compound gyroplane, where the rotor is not powered during cruise, but the tip jets are run during hover and the transitions in and out of hover.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
Parand ? Why imagine that? This isn’t a giant unpowered gyrocopter, it’s a compound gyrocopter.
@paraandro
@paraandro 5 жыл бұрын
DoctorShocktor Yes, i think you are right. Sorry! People who has no clue about what they talking about are always right. The new rule. But wait, I did not ask you. 🤔 Have a nic3 Day. 😁
@dionamuh
@dionamuh 5 жыл бұрын
6:51 Going from 113 dB to 96 dB is not a 15% decrease in 'noise', but much more than that. Every 3 dB is roughly a 100% difference in sound energy and 23% difference in loudness. So the decrease of 17 dB was a reduction of loudness by around 130%.
@antoniolastname419
@antoniolastname419 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure your math makes sense there. Wouldn’t reducing noise by 130% be physically impossible? If you go from 113dB to 0 that’s by definition a 100% reduction.
@dominicperrone2790
@dominicperrone2790 3 жыл бұрын
Missed a perfect opportunity to title it “Why the VTOL Airliner never Took Off”
@BlazeByte21
@BlazeByte21 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Outlier999
@Outlier999 3 жыл бұрын
Boo! Ewwgh! Bad!
@Outlier999
@Outlier999 3 жыл бұрын
Noise concerns? In American 🇺🇸 cities? Oh, come now.
@revolver265
@revolver265 3 жыл бұрын
"but it did!" - someone that missed the memo
@animationspace8550
@animationspace8550 3 жыл бұрын
But it did
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 5 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest aircraft that never went into service.
@sauropod5393
@sauropod5393 5 жыл бұрын
Canada in the late 1950s had the greatest plane that never was: the Avro Arrow with a top speed of 2,104 km/h which made it the fastest plane in the world and was scraped by Prime Minister Defeinbaker in 1959. Go figure why things are done.
@johnevans388
@johnevans388 5 жыл бұрын
You never saw it fly. I saw it at Farnborough and it was deafeningly loud. There's no way it would have ever have operated commercially.
@crazycaucasian9342
@crazycaucasian9342 5 жыл бұрын
​@@johnevans388 modern jet engines are 100-110 decibels, which are slightly louder than the rotodyne proposed production model (96 decibels). modern jet engines that just happen to be attached to commercial planes that commuters use every single day... :)
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
sauropod Freaking Arrow cult chimes in of course. Get over it already, shit happens.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Jones Modern jet engines aren’t run at ear level in the middle of cities. The only reason for this to exist was to land in the middle of cities on rooftops. There’s a reason airports aren’t in the middle of office buildings.
@pharaongaming8617
@pharaongaming8617 5 жыл бұрын
next video is gonna be: "the soviet rotodyne you didnt know about"
@s.sestric9929
@s.sestric9929 5 жыл бұрын
The Aeroflot livery threw me off.
@chocomanger6873
@chocomanger6873 5 жыл бұрын
They had probably had these in Ancient India. The west is so full of itself, thinking it has invented everything, and that history is only 2000 years old.
@pharaongaming8617
@pharaongaming8617 5 жыл бұрын
@@chocomanger6873 lol why you think so? first European country is over 8000 years old, Europe discovered metals and invented forging, West invented wine over 8000 years ago so how the heck it has 2000 year history can you explain?
@groovygambino4908
@groovygambino4908 5 жыл бұрын
pharaon gaming the west invented wine over 8000 years? Do you have some information unknown to the world ? Please explain. Last I recall wine wasn't created by the west..
@groovygambino4908
@groovygambino4908 5 жыл бұрын
i. rob what ?
@axiolot5857
@axiolot5857 5 жыл бұрын
'And of course it all went to sh*t" well that was lovely and unexpected
@joinedupjon
@joinedupjon 5 жыл бұрын
If he keeps doing the post WW2 British aircraft industry it could easily become his catchphrase... The avro Vulcan is amazing though.
@Radhaugo108
@Radhaugo108 3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder how big of a role does "Corporate Sabotage" play in the failures of these amazing technologies. For example, a technology like this would've significantly hurt the "Airport Taxi" industry.
@Thomk121
@Thomk121 3 жыл бұрын
There are to many examples of sabotaged technologies to count. The man who invented the diesel engine was murdered and all his designs are "missing". He had designs for all kinds of new engines that ran on different fuels. Big oil didnt like this. Also Nikola teslas research and designs were all stolen after his death. The list goes on and on. Windows and google are constantly buying up patents and small startups to either use or shelf so there is no competition.
@Bumphuk
@Bumphuk 3 жыл бұрын
For more information on corporate sabotage and the British government try looking up Dr Beeching and his plans to "streamline" the British railway network whilst being actively employed by a massive asphalt company that wanted the government to shift towards road transport.
@ray.shoesmith
@ray.shoesmith 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that far fetched tbh. Tullamarine Airport (Melbourne International) in Melbourne Australia still doesn't have a rail link from the airport to the city centre. The reason? Taxi cab lobbying.
@Steve-GM0HUU
@Steve-GM0HUU Жыл бұрын
Not just taxis perhaps. Can't see airports supporting the idea of all their short and medium haul flights being handed over to mini inner city airports. All those passengers they would loose that are no longer paying for taxis, carparks or buying over priced food, drink and all the other tat they sell in airports to a captive audience? The financial stakeholders of airports don't care if if people spend hours travelling to airports by car, train or bus with all the additional pollution/congestion that goes with it. Not only that, from an air traffic control perspective, the creation of multiple new airports and the added complexity it would bring to airspace management is something that would take a lot to sort out and probably drive up operating costs.
@NeighborSenpai
@NeighborSenpai Жыл бұрын
@@ray.shoesmith same with Las Vegas airport, the idea was to make the Monorail go to the airport but taxi companies lobbied hard and the Monorail stops randomly a few blocks from the airport serving no one in that area
@Rambo11307
@Rambo11307 5 жыл бұрын
The loss of this aircraft really feels like industrial sabotage.
@Rambo11307
@Rambo11307 5 жыл бұрын
Лэнгтон Матраверс. Hey now. More and more of us everyday are getting tired of the corruption.
@jasoncoburn445
@jasoncoburn445 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, it has the same air as The Tucker car story.
@alessandroarcuri209
@alessandroarcuri209 5 жыл бұрын
More like government shortsightedness and total lack of vision.
@Rambo11307
@Rambo11307 5 жыл бұрын
Alessandro Arcuri But it would still outperform today. just like the airship is still the cheaper way to distribute mass freight.
@redbluesome2829
@redbluesome2829 5 жыл бұрын
@Лэнгтон Матраверс. more like the pesky British aviation industry that couldn’t stay afloat without consolidation you dumb russkie.
@jensdevos6464
@jensdevos6464 5 жыл бұрын
The models are so clean like this is even better than a model aircraft.
@lfox02
@lfox02 5 жыл бұрын
@@cap5856 It is. He makes all these 3D models and animations himself.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 4 жыл бұрын
@@lfox02 Having them sit on a (cgi) tabletop is a stroke of genius. The models read as fantastic scale models, rather than attempts to render a real-life aircraft. It falls short of the latter, which is not a criticism as big movies have dozens of people working on these things and it still often goes wrong.
@abcdefghijklmnoprstuwxyz4706
@abcdefghijklmnoprstuwxyz4706 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: says the S word Everyone liked that.
@angelainejarrett1115
@angelainejarrett1115 5 жыл бұрын
What's up with all the comments about mustard?
@darthsalmon3614
@darthsalmon3614 5 жыл бұрын
Angelaine Jarrett that's a joke right?
@angelainejarrett1115
@angelainejarrett1115 5 жыл бұрын
@@darthsalmon3614 no. I just realized it's the name of the channel. Sorry I've been stuck in the house watching KZbin videos for 2 weeks after an accident. I like I'm losing my mind.
@tobymassoom
@tobymassoom 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelainejarrett1115 you good?
@justicewarrior9187
@justicewarrior9187 5 жыл бұрын
What about CUM word??
@JD3Gamer
@JD3Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this concept should be revisited to replace medical helicopters. You could deliver patients faster while burning less fuel. A lot of development has gone into miniature, quiet and efficient jet engines that could go on the blades. The larger cab size could also allow for more than one patient to travel at a time with ambulance like medical equipment and staff there for them.
@monhi64
@monhi64 2 жыл бұрын
Medical helicopters are a whole nother shitshow. Back when they deregulated air travel, it was generally good for the public but it left a loophole where air ambulances can charge whatever they choose. The companies behind the air ambulances realized no one really has a choice to take one or not, that’s usually up to a doctor and the patient might be unconscious so they started charging 5-10 times more than they needed too. And especially since doctors like the err on the side of caution with lives a lot of rides are both unnecessary and hyper expensive. So just to be clear the medical helicopters are not the expensive by any necessity, just price gouging lol
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 2 жыл бұрын
@@monhi64 which country do you live in?
@somethingmoredecent
@somethingmoredecent 2 жыл бұрын
@@procatprocat9647 America
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 2 жыл бұрын
@@somethingmoredecent unlucky
@somethingmoredecent
@somethingmoredecent 2 жыл бұрын
@@procatprocat9647 Depends
@chrisstancer5857
@chrisstancer5857 4 жыл бұрын
There's no reason the US military shouldn't have picked this up, as it seems vastly superior and safer to the V-22 Osprey, and the military doesn't care so much about noise.
@namesurname624
@namesurname624 3 жыл бұрын
If they didn't then it wasnt
@shadfletcher6815
@shadfletcher6815 3 жыл бұрын
@@namesurname624 maybe your not aware of how many people have died in the osprey,so dont be so sure about the militaries decision making
@gearandalthefirst7027
@gearandalthefirst7027 3 жыл бұрын
@@namesurname624 I don't think you understand how the US military works lol. The whole thing only exists to make money for contractors and to scare people into submission, safety is a tertiary concern
@harbl99
@harbl99 3 жыл бұрын
NIH syndrome.
@richardpark3054
@richardpark3054 3 жыл бұрын
I've only seen a V-22 in flight about a dozen times, and my initial reaction has always been "A flying Osprey! Run! Take cover!"
@charliehall2475
@charliehall2475 5 жыл бұрын
This is so great to see. I’m the grand son of Geoffrey Hall who was chairman of Fairey. I never met him but to see the work he and the team of engineers in the company was trying to create is so humbling. One point that was not mentioned was that the British government had also compulsory purchased Fairey airfields which just so happened to be Heathrow, so a vertical take off aircraft didn’t suit the governments new airfields strategy? If anyone know more about this I would love to know. Charlie.
@briangarrett-glaser438
@briangarrett-glaser438 5 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with Jaunt Air Mobility and Skyworks? They’re two companies working very seriously on technology that’s partially descendant from the Rotodyne, if i understand it correctly. The goal is to develop vehicles for urban air mobility, very much like the rotodyne concept. Really cool stuff.
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 5 жыл бұрын
I relish reading comments such as yours. In less than 24 hours, a blood relative of the man happened to watch this particular video and left a comment. What sort of peculiar alignment of interest and circumstance brings that about? The answer, of course, is at once obvious and yet unfathomable. I did not know this craft existed until now. I hadn't even thought of autogyros for years, and am fascinated by this. Too bad you don't have one in the family to go see. ;-)
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 5 жыл бұрын
@@briangarrett-glaser438 www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-skyworks-gyrocopter-returns-from-the-brink-459680/ Wow, so it is ... I had no idea.
@VCYT
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine worked for Fairey Hydrualics.
@chris-hayes
@chris-hayes 5 жыл бұрын
@@bsadewitz very cool!
@thatdeliveryguy8975
@thatdeliveryguy8975 5 жыл бұрын
It depresses me what happened to our aviation heritage 😭
@HungrysitesRu
@HungrysitesRu 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy an autogyro. It's this specific autogyro that failed, there are others for civil aviation.
@Alexandre-ul7oy
@Alexandre-ul7oy 5 жыл бұрын
I know so much great plane that could have changed the world like Concorde; Rotordyne; Mercure; and flying wings
@VCYT
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
Blame Hitlers war - it drained much money from the UK gov.
@chris-hayes
@chris-hayes 5 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandre-ul7oy Black Arrow too
@mohammedsarker5756
@mohammedsarker5756 5 жыл бұрын
Alexandre Moreau Concorde was a toy for the rich and terrible for the environment
@startingQB
@startingQB 3 жыл бұрын
A "flying machine" that would be more economical and faster, got canceled because of "lack of funding". 🤔 I'm pretty sure the oil industry had a lot to do with it as well.
@spaceout2520
@spaceout2520 3 жыл бұрын
And the United States military could in theory make the Rotodyne a thing again because who loves cheap and effective military vehicles more than the US
@truthinaction0000
@truthinaction0000 3 жыл бұрын
@@spaceout2520 of it ain't national debt over budget or built exclusively by Lockheed legacy, Murica won't buy. If it ain't overpriced, the other countries will make fun, except Putinland, he's allycat scrappy cool on the cheap.
@Ryvaken
@Ryvaken 3 жыл бұрын
More economical and faster than a contemporary helicopter. That's not a high bar.
@daw162
@daw162 3 жыл бұрын
more economical than what? It didn't get interest, so it didn't get funding. It has to beat an airliner, not a helicopter (which is generally only used for short trips by wealthy people). Airlines will do anything to save fuel, including spending stupid amounts on newer planes that use less fuel but take eons to pay back.
@KaiserStormTracking
@KaiserStormTracking 3 жыл бұрын
@@spaceout2520 Russia?? They still use Cold war era bombers
@paladin0654
@paladin0654 5 жыл бұрын
The Brits have a habit of cancelling programs like this.
@Axemantitan
@Axemantitan 5 жыл бұрын
Curious Droid has a good video on a cancelled British rocket that had great potential (even if it did look like a tube of lipstick).
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 5 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say... develops revolutionary technology that then either gets cancelled or gets "shared" with the US never to be returned...
@kutter_ttl6786
@kutter_ttl6786 5 жыл бұрын
*Cough* TSR-2 *cough*
@joshuadrakard2981
@joshuadrakard2981 5 жыл бұрын
@@kutter_ttl6786 that one still hurts
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 5 жыл бұрын
It's a shame as the Greatest aircraft they have made seem to be based on out of the box thinking.. The Harrier etc...
@degraj418
@degraj418 5 жыл бұрын
*_Alternative Title_* : _Why The Vertical Takeoff Airliner Never Took off_
@orinpolansky386
@orinpolansky386 5 жыл бұрын
It's not VTOL. It's just a big autogyro. It can do short takeoff and vertical landing. Autogyros had jumping takeoff systems when rotor was prespinned to 150% of its usual RPM then angle of rotorblades was changing to high angle and autogyro was making a jump. After jump was done main engine was turned on and craft started to do normal flight.
@yeg4k165
@yeg4k165 5 жыл бұрын
@@orinpolansky386 smart boi but this was a pun
@SeanMirrsen
@SeanMirrsen 5 жыл бұрын
@@orinpolansky386 This thing literally has jet engines on the tips of the rotor blades to spin up the rotor and vertically take off. It is not a simple autogyro.
@degraj418
@degraj418 5 жыл бұрын
@@yeg4k165 thank u
@degraj418
@degraj418 5 жыл бұрын
@@orinpolansky386 I mean the creator literally has Vertical takeoff in the title sooo
@Sn0wb0i
@Sn0wb0i 4 жыл бұрын
If the rotodyne had not been British, then they might still be around today
@sandakureva
@sandakureva 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this seems like it was more a problem of mismanagement on the part of the British government than it being a bad idea.
@bernardhaworth112
@bernardhaworth112 3 жыл бұрын
The reason for its failure ( as with the Concorde much later) was simply that it was NOT American. The USA determined that American designed and produced only should be around so the Rotodyne had to be 'destroyed' , as I say same with Concorde. Had both craft been American the US they would have made sure they succeeded .
@fandangobrandango7864
@fandangobrandango7864 3 жыл бұрын
The WWW is British and is obviously still around today. You're welcome
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernardhaworth112 - never underestimate the amazing ability of successive British government to **** things up, though....
@disasterincarnate
@disasterincarnate 3 жыл бұрын
@@SAHBfan or sell their stuff to the americans at the detriment of themselves.
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 3 жыл бұрын
This NEEDS to make a comeback
@vihaanajaya3041
@vihaanajaya3041 3 жыл бұрын
but autogyro is that loser
@FlyLeah
@FlyLeah 3 жыл бұрын
@@vihaanajaya3041 how so? Would do for a helicopter to be more efficient, faster and safer
@vihaanajaya3041
@vihaanajaya3041 3 жыл бұрын
​@@FlyLeahauto gyros work by pushing arotor in front that spins to make lift. and helicopters use extra thrust to go foward that is less efficient than aurogyros​
@inigobantok1579
@inigobantok1579 3 жыл бұрын
It has its called the v 22 osprey
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 3 жыл бұрын
@@inigobantok1579 The Osprey has nothing in common with the Rotodyne
@FiniteFr
@FiniteFr 5 жыл бұрын
I just looked at this page today and thought ‘hmm they upload every two months, wonder when the next video is out’ and here I am
@stfanboy
@stfanboy 4 жыл бұрын
"And it all went to S#$t." That was totally unexpected from this channel and got a big ole LOL from me. XD
@midnightminingspider7824
@midnightminingspider7824 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin: New mustard video Me:I LOVE IT I think that a video about ford airplane would be cool
@crawdadlando4053
@crawdadlando4053 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno about that, gonna look it up now! Thanks.
@HirokaAkita
@HirokaAkita 5 жыл бұрын
Ford Airplane??? ._. ????
@crawdadlando4053
@crawdadlando4053 5 жыл бұрын
@@HirokaAkita I just started a 40 minute documentary on it. Sure nuff.
@rbmk__1000
@rbmk__1000 5 жыл бұрын
@@HirokaAkita ford tri-motor like on indiana jones
@crawdadlando4053
@crawdadlando4053 5 жыл бұрын
Ford patented brakes and tail wheels. As well as made the first concrete runway. It's fascinating stuff!
@stevenlitvintchouk3131
@stevenlitvintchouk3131 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I put together a plastic model kit of a Fairey Rotodyne, with a detailed interior including seats, passengers, even luggage racks. I really thought it was the wave of the future. Technologically, it could have been, given a sufficient commitment.
@matthew9677
@matthew9677 2 жыл бұрын
If you still have it save that thing in a strong case. We got to save what little is left!
@billy4072
@billy4072 Жыл бұрын
See Greg's Model s. Channel he makes the kit 🥰
@stayfrosty6290
@stayfrosty6290 5 жыл бұрын
Osprey: "Dang, my ancestors were a little funky back then."
@TheNpcNoob
@TheNpcNoob 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@wenaldy
@wenaldy 5 жыл бұрын
Osprey is a tiltrotor not even close.
@TheNpcNoob
@TheNpcNoob 5 жыл бұрын
@@wenaldy pretty sure it was born outta this idea
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
wenaldy actually it’s quite similar but in a different way. The rotodyne uses a powered rotor to lift a shortwinged turboprop vertically, the Osprey does the same thing but by tilting its rotors. Cousins at least.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
TRXP RFT Similar, but no, entirely different executions but based in similar goals and similar base aircraft.
@shiyuan1738
@shiyuan1738 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: Uploads new video Me: *Squeals of joy*
@filipgolonka3758
@filipgolonka3758 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate
@kolecava
@kolecava 5 жыл бұрын
The one I never miss, or tell myself... il watch it later 😎
@miroBGgsi
@miroBGgsi 5 жыл бұрын
@@filipgolonka3758 Literally everyone who subscribes Mustard can relate.
@kazzyanddecchan733
@kazzyanddecchan733 5 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that the title says "failed" instead of "never took off".
@glanced9684
@glanced9684 5 жыл бұрын
That would've been much better.
@raymiller6351
@raymiller6351 5 жыл бұрын
it did take off tho
@the5thmusketeer215
@the5thmusketeer215 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Miller Don’t despair, Ray... Online courses in, “The appreciation of Humour and Irony” are freely available. 😉
@raymiller6351
@raymiller6351 5 жыл бұрын
@@the5thmusketeer215 I know. I like the title but it should be reserved for a plane/aircraft that didn't really take off.
@the5thmusketeer215
@the5thmusketeer215 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Miller That is *a very worthy answer* and *a fair comment.* Nicely done, Sir. 😊🤝😊
@Draktand01
@Draktand01 2 жыл бұрын
For places like small islands or isolated cities (like those Spanish cities on the Morroccan coast that actually still have helicopter airlines), this sort of thing could be a really amazing addition to their transportation sector.
@The_Red_Squirrel
@The_Red_Squirrel 11 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure that Spain operates helicopter services between it's North African enclaves and the mainland. Most of these connections are provided by sea ferry services and air services using efficient turboprop aircraft such as the ATR 72.
@davidwill5347
@davidwill5347 10 ай бұрын
@@The_Red_Squirrel There is a helicopter service to Ceuta from Algeciras on Mainland Spain with Helity using AW139s, priced very competitively with the ferry. You're right the ATR is used on rotations to Melilla from Madrid, Malaga, Granada and Almeria as the distances are much further.
@OTGT26
@OTGT26 5 жыл бұрын
Your 3D modelling is spectacular, having been watching for a while it's been great to see the improvement per video
@Centraldahistoriabr
@Centraldahistoriabr 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard really takes a looong time to upload stuff. But when he does, OH BOYO!
@AdlerTX
@AdlerTX 5 жыл бұрын
Quality over quantity, thats for sure.
@theworldoverheavan560
@theworldoverheavan560 5 жыл бұрын
unlike the infographic show
@Centraldahistoriabr
@Centraldahistoriabr 5 жыл бұрын
@@theworldoverheavan560 The Infographics Show is a piece of junk
@toolbaggers
@toolbaggers 5 жыл бұрын
@@Centraldahistoriabr They have the shittest animations out there and they make a lot of money. They'll do some really shitty stuff like using generic airplanes on a vid about airplanes!
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 5 жыл бұрын
I wander how good one Rotodyne with modern technology would be when compared with current Helicopters...
@finnmurtons8727
@finnmurtons8727 4 жыл бұрын
See: OV22 Osprey
@Doppelfrog
@Doppelfrog 4 жыл бұрын
@@finnmurtons8727 That's not really the same thing.
@ChaseBlackmoon
@ChaseBlackmoon 4 жыл бұрын
@Vitor Leão that is a good question, the Osprey is similar, but not the same beast as this thing.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 4 жыл бұрын
The v22 has two turboprop engines, similar to the rotordyne but it lacks one thing An unpowered rotor
@baginatora
@baginatora 4 жыл бұрын
Rotodyne is neither a plane, nor a helicopter. It's an autogyro- completely different type of aircraft.
@michaeltom637
@michaeltom637 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most heartbreaking and sad failed projects this channel has covered so far. A genuine bummer.
@AntoineLeGrand610
@AntoineLeGrand610 5 жыл бұрын
I love everything about your videos :) The amount of research done, the beautiful animations, the vintage footage and your narration! Thank you so much for all the effort you put into your videos!
@roroguapo3
@roroguapo3 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t anyone making cool shit like this anymore in the US? We’ve had the same transportation infrastructure for the last 50 years! Travel is virtually no different today than it was in 1970.
@LocalGuardsman
@LocalGuardsman 4 жыл бұрын
M L I think he/she is referring to commercial transport, not military.
@75aces97
@75aces97 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of crazy technology like this began in the 1950s, height of cold war paranoia. The US had planned for a state of permanent war, so the government had funded a lot of research in jet propulsion and other technology with potential military applications, and civilians benefited from this, too. Which is wonderful, but very expensive. Without a scary commie threat off in the distance, people are less willing to fund projects that may not ultimately work. Private sector outfits aren't going to risk too much on on an endeavor that may not pan out. US declined to invest in the Concorde in the early 1970s and AFAIK never seriously pursued supersonic civilian aviation again. You're right that we're stuck in a rut in air transportation for 50 years now. We have some improvement in creature comforts, but we're actually moving backwards in overall travel time. All his snark aside, Scott Adams (Dilbert Future) had an interesting explanation how airlines are stuck with minor, incremental improvements indefinitely because of the tremendous expense of converting an entire fleet of aeroplanes.
@NorthKoreaUncovered
@NorthKoreaUncovered 4 жыл бұрын
Because we'd rather spend our money bombing brown people in the Middle East.
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 4 жыл бұрын
@@NorthKoreaUncovered The US doesn't even have decent railroad or public transport infrastructure save for maybe cities like New York
@kingofthemoon3063
@kingofthemoon3063 4 жыл бұрын
Due to the dismantlement of streetcar networks and poor city planning, travel is arguably worse now than it was 50 years ago.
@emicklibs6024
@emicklibs6024 5 жыл бұрын
Damn! Watching the failure of such a promessing and revolutionary machine makes me hella depressed
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 5 жыл бұрын
It could still be useful even if they didn't get the sound down. Just land it a bit further out than the center of the city. It will still need less space than an airport. It would also be perfect for island, Mountain and small town runs. Locations were they don't make enough for and airport or that an airport would not fit .
@Frost517
@Frost517 5 жыл бұрын
don’t worry, you can watch it all over again with Uber Elevate. lol
@josephburchanowski4636
@josephburchanowski4636 5 жыл бұрын
@@zakofrx I want to know how it compares to modern helicopters. If it is still more fuel efficient, it might be a good way to get humanitarian aid in places that don't have airports or don't have enough airports. Like from what I can tell it is still simpler and safer than an Osprey.
@remaincalm2
@remaincalm2 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly this isn't a unique story. British governments have cancelled so many cutting edge projects such as the amazing TSR-2 fighter jet, or going back earlier to 1946 the Megaroc was a converted V2 to take the first man into space. This and more killed off because of lack of vision by governments.
@batates74
@batates74 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good application for an electric prop engine. The main rotor could also be powered to eliminate the tip jets.
@batates74
@batates74 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock probably, could be mounted on a clutch I guess
@BiohazardPL
@BiohazardPL 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock main rotor of all helicopters function as an autogyro (to some degree) if power is lost.
@BlairdBlaird
@BlairdBlaird 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock Yes, though it's not trivial all single-engine helicopters must be capable of autorotation to be certified. The US Army has an award (the "broken wing") for successful autorotation under emergency conditions (usually engine failure).
@thatcarguydom266
@thatcarguydom266 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock you mean every helicopter ever?
@watintarnation9801
@watintarnation9801 2 жыл бұрын
Well it still has to counter the torque when the main rotor is being spun, and that's why helicopters have tail rotors or counter-rotating second rotors. The tip jets avoid this problem because the tips themselves propel the rotor, and the gas that's shot out creates reactive force.
@wakadoodledo4566
@wakadoodledo4566 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: Most revolutionary helicopter... Rotodyne: Aight imma head out
@Alexandre-ul7oy
@Alexandre-ul7oy 5 жыл бұрын
youre right it's more an autogire/plane
@ScienceAlliance
@ScienceAlliance 5 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandre-ul7oy *autogyro
@MinutemanOutdoors
@MinutemanOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
It's a gyrocopter
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 5 жыл бұрын
"Why did it disappear." Me: The Pan-Air building disaster. Because its all fun and games until people get decapitated. Even if they had gotten this thing built, by the time they would be delivered, they'd be banned from city centers anyways.
@nottelling8129
@nottelling8129 5 жыл бұрын
Can you provide info on this disaster?
@MiT708
@MiT708 5 жыл бұрын
@@nottelling8129 I am interested as well
@AnontheGOAT
@AnontheGOAT 5 жыл бұрын
@@nottelling8129 learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/may-16-1977-helicopter-accident-on-top-of-pan-am-building-kills-five/
@machintrucGaming
@machintrucGaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiT708 Well, basicaly the thing flipped on it's back and there was passengers on the rooftop, so it all went to ****
@DeKrampus
@DeKrampus 5 жыл бұрын
"For those that would like to know about the Pan-Am building helicopter crash: learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/may-16-1977-helicopter-accident-on-top-of-pan-am-building-kills-five/
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 4 жыл бұрын
An old coworker of mine worked on this project as a young man. He told me some of the technical issues. He liked to say that like Concorde it was ahead of the technology of the day. Even without the ear splitting noise he told me about thermal issues regarding the rotor blades and the complications of combustors in the rotor tips was just beyond what they could reliably build.
@matthew9677
@matthew9677 2 жыл бұрын
That man must write everything he remembers. We must save the data that remains.
@monhi64
@monhi64 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the issue with destroying all the research we don’t have any records of all the problems this plane had. It’s possible they destroyed it cuz they were worried it would made them look bad or something. Would be cool to come back see if it’s viable now
@colintuffs568
@colintuffs568 11 ай бұрын
My father worked on the Fairy rotodyne at Heaton Chapel in Stockport Cheshire. We a had photo of all the workers in front of the first plane . He worked on Hurricanes during the war and was scathing about spitfires . Damaged spits were scrap whereas hurricanes were repaired and generally flew again the next day . Any body remember Jindevics ? 😮
@smiffy1947
@smiffy1947 Жыл бұрын
I remember the Rotodyne from my youth when it used to fly over my house on test flights from the airfield at White Waltham in Berkshire, where Fairey had a factory. The engine test bed was right next to the railway line that I used to travel on to school in Maidenhead and you could hear the noise of an engine test from inside the carriage! I still have an original Fairey Aviation publicity brochure about the Rotodyne and made at least two of the Airfix kits of it but sadly I no longer have them!
@GingkaHagane43
@GingkaHagane43 4 жыл бұрын
Mustard: "But of course. . .It all went to $*** Me: NANI?!?
@abramo7700
@abramo7700 4 жыл бұрын
oooooooooh! teacher he said a bad word!!
@daddybondrewd7271
@daddybondrewd7271 4 жыл бұрын
no the teacher SAID the bad word
@6Six6Six6Bruh
@6Six6Six6Bruh 4 жыл бұрын
Gingka Hagane timestamp
@cheeseislit1070
@cheeseislit1070 4 жыл бұрын
@@6Six6Six6Bruh 6:00
@machina_spirit
@machina_spirit 4 жыл бұрын
Thought you were just paraphrasing, so i was actually surprised when i got to that part of the video and he actually said that! 😂
@tritran696
@tritran696 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I would love to fly on that thing. It looked really interesting and actually futuristic.
@DsantosGE4PA
@DsantosGE4PA 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe one with electric engines would solve the noise issue
@chris22capt
@chris22capt 5 ай бұрын
​@@DsantosGE4PA how would you power the tip jet with electric motor?
@the5thmusketeer215
@the5thmusketeer215 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as the British Government “funds” any enterprising or innovative project, you know that the writing’s on the wall and there’s a very high risk that funding will be withdrawn before it’s completed. British Politicians have very little understanding of real world costs, while simultaneously lacking true vision and imagination (except when it comes to filling in the forms to justify their own Expenses Claims... 🤨)
@whatyousaidbud
@whatyousaidbud 5 жыл бұрын
Or funding the DeLorean.
@lexifillems
@lexifillems 5 жыл бұрын
Well, in this case the video explains what happened. Also, you will find it is was mainly the Tories ending projects like that. This case: 1961 - Macmillan, Tory. APT: 1985 - Thatcher - Tory. privatising British Airways - same. Flogging the bus services - same. Flogging the rail services - Major - also Tory (then got backside kicked in the elections by Blair who, to be fair, started off pretty well but turned out to be the political equivalent to Darth Vader). The Tories don't believe in using public money for anything that might help the country, Britain's technical development, or indeed Britains. Unless they're fat cat bastards.
@the5thmusketeer215
@the5thmusketeer215 5 жыл бұрын
Dinsdale It’s simply outrageous to draw a similarity between Darth Vader and Tony Blair!!! How can you liken a shady, nefarious, plotter and schemer who ends up betraying everyone who trusted in him because he’s secretly sold his soul to the Devil... with a fictional character from “Star Wars?” 🤷🏻‍♂️
@PB23723
@PB23723 5 жыл бұрын
TSR2
@172-e5s
@172-e5s 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right. Their only true talent and profession is lining their own pockets.
@Freedomlander_101
@Freedomlander_101 3 жыл бұрын
Rotordyne!? Excellent concept lets just adop- Others: *Booo booooo* *Too much noiseeee* _Yeah lets just scrap the whole thing completely_
@JaceTan-90
@JaceTan-90 5 жыл бұрын
This should be revived as many want to avoid traffic.
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 5 жыл бұрын
That's more of a flying car thing, and _that_ is waiting on the FAA to finish their next-generation air traffic control system so that autopilots can hook into it.
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be excellent for regional commutes, going the “last mile” from hub airports to the regional one you want, etc.
@notsosilentmajority1
@notsosilentmajority1 5 жыл бұрын
Then there would be traffic just trying to get to the takeoff location in Manhattan and every other major city. Nowadays it's probably quicker to get to one of the NY airports than it would to get to the rooftop of a midtown Manhattan building. Trust me on this.
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 5 жыл бұрын
yes, like all revolutionary techno, they get squashed
@bullterriermolly5874
@bullterriermolly5874 5 жыл бұрын
They are check into personal drones there being pushed for the same reasons.
@TomEarley
@TomEarley 5 жыл бұрын
I literally went on Mustard earlier to check if you had any new videos. So glad your back!
@Blkchevy98
@Blkchevy98 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this with today's tech.
@fekete2730
@fekete2730 4 жыл бұрын
People would probably not try to re-invent this, stuff like civilian ospreys will probably exist, it would be cool seeing this aircraft come back though.
@voidofspaceandtime4684
@voidofspaceandtime4684 4 жыл бұрын
@@fekete2730 civlian ospreys would not be as efficient. The rotodyne is just a better design.
@mr.normalguy69
@mr.normalguy69 4 жыл бұрын
@@voidofspaceandtime4684 Plus if one or both engines of rotodyne malfunction, it can slowly glide to a safe landing, if the same happens to osprey then its lights out.
@jestertester69gaming54
@jestertester69gaming54 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.normalguy69 The Osprey may land like an fixed wing aircraft but may damage the propellers
@DAN007thefoxx1
@DAN007thefoxx1 4 жыл бұрын
@@jestertester69gaming54 Ok what if instead of huge rotors we used a series of small fans that can be tilted to either provide forward or downward thrust so you can land horizontally without damaging them?
@HenryTheEngineer5158
@HenryTheEngineer5158 8 ай бұрын
“It all went to sh*t” Mustard had finally snapped.
@DutchRC
@DutchRC 5 жыл бұрын
the prototype & research were *quickly destroyed* ... WTF ??? why allso: thanks for the awesome new video offcourse! I had never heard of this one.. A friend of mine is into autogyro's.. I'll send him this way :)
@Yingyanglord1
@Yingyanglord1 5 жыл бұрын
to adviod competetion
@bryanlatimer-davies1222
@bryanlatimer-davies1222 5 жыл бұрын
Same deal with the TSR2
@snviper
@snviper 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryanlatimer-davies1222 Weird I saw a TSR2 in a museum.
@bryanlatimer-davies1222
@bryanlatimer-davies1222 5 жыл бұрын
@@snviper Yes I have seen it at Cosford, plenty of conspiracy theories surround it !
@adampoultney8737
@adampoultney8737 5 жыл бұрын
The 2 almost complete Ines and a nose section is about all that remains
@manooxi327
@manooxi327 5 жыл бұрын
GOD!, such a cool machine, I'm so mad that It didn't "take off" I'm sorry!
@angelainejarrett1115
@angelainejarrett1115 5 жыл бұрын
You should be.
@tgay9594
@tgay9594 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah especially with today's technology, such a shame. Seems very economical and would make a killing
@manooxi327
@manooxi327 5 жыл бұрын
@@tgay9594 now I want a wendover production vid on the logistic of it!
@tgay9594
@tgay9594 5 жыл бұрын
@@manooxi327 Hahhaha :-)
@jacovichstabs841
@jacovichstabs841 5 жыл бұрын
Airlines or businesses should invest in these again. They're still a great idea and new technology could make them even better.
@fibecheee
@fibecheee 2 жыл бұрын
the word you're looking for is "gyrocopter".
@joejia1410
@joejia1410 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: post video KZbin: heres 100k views Edit: Apparently youtube loves mustard so much the views are going to the moon
@grovemeister04
@grovemeister04 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin: heres 600+k and trending
@joejia1410
@joejia1410 5 жыл бұрын
@@grovemeister04 Lmao
@legitsu_
@legitsu_ 5 жыл бұрын
more like youtube user: heres a intresting video ima click
@joejia1410
@joejia1410 5 жыл бұрын
@@legitsu_ Yep
@Carstuff111
@Carstuff111 5 жыл бұрын
739,769 as I am viewing it the next day :)
@victormatheusbezerralima3056
@victormatheusbezerralima3056 5 жыл бұрын
Man, seeing all those potentially revolutionary machines getting just discarded, never to be seen again just makes me sad, even more so when we could easily make it work with the technology we have today.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 5 жыл бұрын
The British government in the 1950s and 60s seemed to be dead set on destroying their own aviation industry, and especially any actually innovative aircraft designs.
@TheHazyTimewalker
@TheHazyTimewalker 5 жыл бұрын
Pfffff I got the 69th like on this comment lmao
@shinobione2575
@shinobione2575 5 жыл бұрын
Helicopters are faster now
@raduantoniu
@raduantoniu 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are simply amazing. Way to go! Related to the video, it's crazy to think fast electric trains links were never built between the major cities on the West Coast. They're even cheaper and more convenient than the Rotodyne would have been.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, electric trains are not so cheap. You have to account for the tracks, electrification, maintenance of all this stuff, digging tunnels and building bridges, etc... I'm not a engineer, but I think an electric train is a pain in the butt to design and use. I live in France, we have tons of these trains, they are often really expensive and not often a reliable system (I wish I was Japanese lol they have better records than us ^^)
@maitirkp5519
@maitirkp5519 3 жыл бұрын
With today's technology, a quieter version can be made today.
@nordicberserk
@nordicberserk 3 жыл бұрын
OR! Electric Rotodyne! Electric motor in stead of the tip jets, and when it is turned off, use it as a passive generator to power the electric props.
@SaHaRaSquad
@SaHaRaSquad 3 жыл бұрын
@@nordicberserk Using it as a generator during flight would just be a creative way to waste energy, unless you've found a way to violate laws of physics.
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 3 жыл бұрын
High speed trains are not cheap. California spend billions and only got a few miles of track.
@Pseud0nymTXT
@Pseud0nymTXT 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, all this effort to avoid a high speed railway
@heksogen4788
@heksogen4788 3 жыл бұрын
High speed passenger rail is more expensive.
@nicopavvi8494
@nicopavvi8494 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s USA?
@eMKeaL
@eMKeaL 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicopavvi8494 first bullet trains in Japan were operational in mid 60s. It is just US that fucked up this subject with decades of negligence.
@carlosjones8712
@carlosjones8712 4 жыл бұрын
This higher quality than most tv documentaries
@57thorns
@57thorns 4 жыл бұрын
3:08 And these days, you add 2 hours "security" to the time shown. 5:50 Now, if there only were some means of transport that could do 300 kph from city center to city center with a minimum of downtime.
@ismailmergeja299
@ismailmergeja299 4 жыл бұрын
ll
@kyoshiroma
@kyoshiroma 4 жыл бұрын
@Arw but these "rotodyne" almost doesn't need an infrastructure at all, just a heliport, so is easier and cheaper to implement.
@MarceloBenoit-trenes
@MarceloBenoit-trenes 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyoshiroma and has a very low transport capacity...
@fpsbohr
@fpsbohr 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm ripping Mustard off, paying nothing for videos of extraordinary quality.
@victorfritsch7565
@victorfritsch7565 5 жыл бұрын
fpsbohr better than most documentaries
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 5 жыл бұрын
This one was a tad weaker than others but still excellent job
@TheGreatSteve
@TheGreatSteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@GewelReal BOO!
@Nate-zu3qw
@Nate-zu3qw 3 жыл бұрын
The 50's innovation will never be rivaled. Hands down.
@meetmeinthegame403
@meetmeinthegame403 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, like there was this massive push for innovation after the war. And rebuilding our economy, But I’m sure a generation like that will come along again
@richard165s
@richard165s 5 жыл бұрын
6:50 careful with the 15% figure - decibels are a logarithmic unit; we perceive every change in 10db as approximately double the noise. Going from 113 db to 96 db isn't about 15% reduction, but closer to 400%... still 96 db is wicked loud
@sproutingpotato6963
@sproutingpotato6963 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. By my calculation 96 dB is 14.1% of 113 dB. Of course it also matters at what distance the sound was measured at.
@TubeDupe
@TubeDupe 5 жыл бұрын
"5000 passengers, who would otherwise be condemned ... to this!" Smash cut to picture of California.
@alexh349
@alexh349 5 жыл бұрын
California is bad
@goodbyemr.anderson5065
@goodbyemr.anderson5065 5 жыл бұрын
What's California??
@period5304
@period5304 5 жыл бұрын
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065 it's a slang for broken toenails.
@Space_Reptile
@Space_Reptile 5 жыл бұрын
"the prototype was quickly destroyed" WHY DO COMPANIES DO THIS? PUT IT IN A SODDING MUSEUM YOU NUMPTIES, if noone sees it, you will never get the thing funded
@joefacenutter
@joefacenutter 3 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting the bleep saying it all went to $*it! Ha ha literally laughed out loud
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: planes Wendover: it's treason then
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear parts and plans have been destroyed I know there is someone behind, who did not want it to be successful. Your government had agreed to the downfall of your own country.
@ShaareiZoharDaas
@ShaareiZoharDaas 4 жыл бұрын
Sad but Tru
@martinwilson7246
@martinwilson7246 4 жыл бұрын
So it seems. Look for the highly-capable TSR-2 from a few years back... and yet our taxpayers now fund two humungous aircraft carriers populated with imported STOVL jets, having abruptly scrapped all our Harriers a few years ago.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinwilson7246 The Germans were famous for quality but the Brits were famous for clever technical solutions, sometimes also quirky ideas. That's very ok, isn't it? All key industries that have been giving jobs to your father and your mother have been destroyed. The car industry and the aircraft industry (UK had brilliant ideas there) are two famous examples. I was extremely surprised to learn about these facts. And then the rest was done by outplacement of many jobs to China. Do you really want to live from financial products and services? That won't work to feed the average John and Jim. Lucky for us in Germany our politics still rank the small and medium companies high. It's those companies which have a qualified job for my sister and my uncle in the neighbourhood, those who have expertise in doing stuff such as repairing and maintaining, or expert engineering. They are the salt of the earth ... and surely not the top 500, or banks.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 4 жыл бұрын
@Grime Fork That particular problem seems just the opposite to me. Too much capitalism. They followed the US "advise".
@mrvoyagerm
@mrvoyagerm 5 жыл бұрын
There was a small sales model of this aircraft on my dad's desk when I was a kid.
@svennoren9047
@svennoren9047 5 жыл бұрын
I had the Airfix plastic model of it! Sadly I could never learn to use glue in moderation...
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын
good for yiu
@daw162
@daw162 3 жыл бұрын
Failed to change air travel - of course. A quick look at wiki shows a cruise speed of 185 miles an hour. People don't even like riding on commuter turboprops that go 250 knots. It's a novel machine, but it solves an odd in-between zone between helicopters and airliners/airplanes that doesn't really have a market.
@andyroper1613
@andyroper1613 4 жыл бұрын
A friend who worked at Fairey back in the late 50's said that the prototype was deafeningly loud when the tip jets were used for take off and landing under load. The Napier gas turbines and propeller tips combined to make it almost impossible to tolerate!
@artistwithouttalent
@artistwithouttalent 4 жыл бұрын
"Hello, I'd like to ship this package to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?"
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica 4 жыл бұрын
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhcksellent.
@laudbentil8184
@laudbentil8184 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's still economically viable in these times, was quite fascinated by the auto-gyro
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 4 жыл бұрын
I guess so. We have advanced so much in rotor technology and the tip jet idea -used just for starting rotation and without the contra-rotation necessary to keep helicopters stable. So safe too as the unpowered autorotation is providing so much lift.
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 3 жыл бұрын
How this machine was not grabbed by the military is beyond me......faster than a copter, larger and less complex than the OFSPREY, it was so versatile....
@ILovePancakes24
@ILovePancakes24 11 ай бұрын
The OFFSprey if it wasn't explicitly engineered to be a death trap.
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 11 ай бұрын
Dont diasgree, but it has real issues.@@ILovePancakes24
@outofuseaccount9671
@outofuseaccount9671 5 жыл бұрын
The 1950’s were so... “interesting” when it came to the aircraft industry
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 5 жыл бұрын
Its an excellent example of how engineering ingenuity was coupled with economic ignorance, and lack of preparation
@illegalalien6542
@illegalalien6542 4 жыл бұрын
Not so much when it came to race relations tho🤣🤣😋🤣🤣🤣
@timothyp873
@timothyp873 5 жыл бұрын
This looks like it came out right of Thunderbirds.
@ianhudson9398
@ianhudson9398 5 жыл бұрын
Actually..... you'll see 21st Century TVs interpretation of the Rotodyne in many Thunderbird episodes....
@draconiusultamius
@draconiusultamius 4 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to revive this. It seems like a great idea. Even if there aren't any existing blueprints or prototypes, it can't be that hard to try and piece it together while updating as necessary.
@moxxy3565
@moxxy3565 3 жыл бұрын
"the rotor wasn't powered, but wait, actually it was"
@SuperUltimateLP
@SuperUltimateLP 3 жыл бұрын
Only at takeoff and landing, yeah it's stretching it to say "unpowered" but for like 90% if the flight it is.
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 3 жыл бұрын
...like a conventional helicopter...
@jacobb17
@jacobb17 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't. The blades are being pushed, but the rotor itself wasn't connected to an engine. It was only "powered" during takeoff and landing and its kind of a stretch to call being pushed the same as being powered.
@pauldavis5665
@pauldavis5665 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobb17 It had jet engines attached to it for crying out loud. I would say that definitely counts as being connected to an engine, or more precisely multiple engines.
@jacobb17
@jacobb17 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauldavis5665 Not engines, boosters. The rotor wasn't connected to an engine like a conventional helicopter. The rotor wasn't powered or connected to an engine, it had boosters on it that pushed it.
@kookiespace
@kookiespace 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says they want to revolutionise intercity travel I just want to shout "TRAAAAAINNSS!!!" at them
@eruno_
@eruno_ 4 жыл бұрын
*trains gang* *trains gang* *trains gang*
@areadenial2343
@areadenial2343 4 жыл бұрын
I like trains
@DinoHunter56
@DinoHunter56 4 жыл бұрын
Trains are pretty damn amazing. I think what Rotodyne was trying to do was make Intercity travel possible without relying on infastructure.
@davidrodgersNJ
@davidrodgersNJ 4 жыл бұрын
I would shout back "REAL ESTATE!" What do you suppose a 10 meter wide strip from DC to Manhattan to Boston costs?
@davidrodgersNJ
@davidrodgersNJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@PanzerVII-df8hg Indeed, but unfortunately unworkable. Pity.
@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by
@MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by 5 жыл бұрын
The speed of the rotor tips must have been huge.
@oranges866
@oranges866 5 жыл бұрын
Mustard: says "sh" word Everyone: *wait, that's illegal,*
@MayankShrivastava0
@MayankShrivastava0 5 жыл бұрын
What was that word?
@pharaongaming8617
@pharaongaming8617 5 жыл бұрын
at least say "sh" word, what is s word? sigga?
@numbersix8919
@numbersix8919 Жыл бұрын
It's an auto-gyro, not a helicopter. Also helicopter blades do push air down, but lift is also generated by the same way airplane wings do -- the Bernoulli Effect.
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