This Doomfist Claimed To Play A Perfect Game... Were They Right? | Overwatch 2 Spectating

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@kossettereaditte7552
@kossettereaditte7552 2 ай бұрын
So honestly, as a gold player, most gold Dooms dont know the definition of backing the fuck up or taking cover so honestly I like this Dooms gameplay wish there were more Dooms like this.
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
true
@leokakko8464
@leokakko8464 2 ай бұрын
Fax
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 2 ай бұрын
He played not to die, so It’s meaningless. He doesn’t stall point as the tank, he allows the enemy team to walk free into his backline. The entirety of second point is proof, he avoided dying and gave away all the space for it. He could've fit four teamfights on second point, I don't recall them having more than one.
@kossettereaditte7552
@kossettereaditte7552 2 ай бұрын
@@ragingdemon1344 Still, aside from the defense where he was AFK the entire time (which is still less annoying than a tank Feeding to me as a support main) he was pretty good. His attack was also really good for gold, he understood when to go in and comeback for heals before jumping back in and he didn't just stand around and spam "I need healing" when he was low if there were no support he went to get health packs. He also didn't feed or jump in 1 V 5 and just block like he was trying to play Doomhardt or something. All in all despite not knowing how to play defense he is an amazing Doomfist for Gold and probably better than most tanks in general that I play with when I solo que who think they're indestructible.
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
@@kossettereaditte7552 very true
@kingbaco1233
@kingbaco1233 2 ай бұрын
This is the luckiest doom ever. When I play doom they swap to 5 sombras and three Ana’s
@joselazo6840
@joselazo6840 2 ай бұрын
“Only through conflict do we evolve”
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
"A good leader adapts to their team not the other way round, never forget that"
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
also tell that to ZBRA
@NotnotADHD
@NotnotADHD 2 ай бұрын
Only 5 of them counter swapped? We still have a chance
@vcp2077
@vcp2077 2 ай бұрын
play on asian servers for 1s as a doom/ball, and you will get mei sombra on your case
@Youre-Welcome
@Youre-Welcome 2 ай бұрын
Dude spent half of the defense AFK. But still nice to see a Doom that doesn't feed 1v5 the other team then flame about not getting healed. I can't out heal stupid!
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
well just like emongg said
@contagious_noob3651
@contagious_noob3651 2 ай бұрын
Lol I had a tank yesterday that for the first three team fights tried face tanking a bastion in turret mode luckily he learned his lesson and it was the start of my 6 win streak.
@proto1825
@proto1825 2 ай бұрын
something that happens a lot with this as a 1 trick doom as its really easy to farm your supports ults but you shouldnt do it unless you have tide turner ults like nano yk
@brubie7584
@brubie7584 2 ай бұрын
I think they needed to tell Lucio to play different. The Lucio kept dying trying to follow doom thinking he was a normal gold doom
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
@@brubie7584 true tbf buy the Lucio did help him a lot the problem was maybe not knowing when to exit
@duck_time
@duck_time 2 ай бұрын
thank you for watching the vod! the play at the end you said to do definitely feels more correct after rewatching the replay myself. I am realizing I struggle with macro play a lot.
@acyned8079
@acyned8079 2 ай бұрын
man awesome doom plays, you played like a boss
@K_Nightshade
@K_Nightshade 2 ай бұрын
We are proud of you brother, though one piece of advice from a diamond 5 Doom, stay with your team and little more. It’s good that you’re prowling around looking for targets to single out, but you’re still your team’s tank. What I personally like to do, is play as a dive deterrent. I slowly encroach on the front light, make space, occasionally get some free you charge with my slam and then punch out to keep them guessing. Once I see a sliver of opportunity, either in the form of one of my dps getting a pick or someone overextending, then I get start getting momentum. You are in gold, so your enemies won’t be as coordinated as those you’ll see when you climb, so being able to be patient and wait for opportunities to come to you is sometimes the best opportunity. Much like that play while capping the point. You’re bound to climb if you keep up what you’re doing. Oh, and one more thing. This might be a me exclusive thing, but I usually have match chat and sometimes team chat off. I don’t need the stress of getting flamed unless they’re going to talk about it like adults. Just a little something I’ve been doing since people are so quick to be toxic the second you make a mistake.
@fawnleif
@fawnleif 2 ай бұрын
Honestly you were playing really well and so was your team. I’ve had games where my dps have 47 elims, tank with 30 and we still lose. Sometimes it just comes down to ult usage and timing. People will hold ults for a long time until someone else ults and you get that classic domino effect. It happens in plat all the time but it’s better to use your ult and win the team fight than to never use it at all. That being said, in the metal ranks people will over ult and it gets really frustrating but it’s a chance you have to take. I think you and your team played your best and I feel like you can climb out of gold 4. As a plat support it’d be great to have you on my team!
@eleonarcrimson858
@eleonarcrimson858 2 ай бұрын
bruh that 360 to block dvas bomb and then charge punching her out of her mech is so sick, cant believe ur just gold.(the first defense one)
@kingjotaro9420
@kingjotaro9420 2 ай бұрын
​​@@eleonarcrimson858As a gold tank myself I had to admit that was disgusting, can't believe we're in the same rank
@andersj91
@andersj91 2 ай бұрын
Defense was a disaster. Provided little to no resistance on first point while the Dva ate up their backline. No peel, was just jumping to safety out of the play. Doom is TOUGH to play on defense and they seem pretty clueless with what to do.
@vcp2077
@vcp2077 2 ай бұрын
His doom was good, but.. it seems that the team wasn't in on the plan. I think this doom could have done so much better by just brawling hard and creating mini distractions, rather than emulating zbra
@ToadimusPrime
@ToadimusPrime 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I noticed this like a few minutes in. The mechanics are there, but no team play. Way too selfish of a player.
@GracideaJo
@GracideaJo Ай бұрын
I’m in metal ranks. Don’t judge lol but when there’s a good doom I pocket him with mercy since Ik I’ll be guaranteed 100% uptime of max air time. Love diving on a widow and flying back to my doom.
@kevinkalani
@kevinkalani 2 ай бұрын
So based on his gameplay and being in Gold, what I really think is the issue is that he plays exactly the same against every comp and when they have more hard counters he can't outplay them. That's probably why he is stuck. If you insist on one-tricking you have to be able to get similar value against your counters as you do vs. Comps you do well against. Simply put he showed his best game and is pretending he plays like this every game and against his hard counters and is blaming others for being Gold.
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Besides, he didn’t actually do his job. Didn’t contest point, he'd rather run every opportunity to keep a high KD. He didn’t help his team. Good tanks know when to die and when to run away. He just ran away every single time, giving up space for free during defense. So yeah, I imagine how much he struggles against comps with hard counters and see exactly why he's Gold.
@Lilian040210
@Lilian040210 2 ай бұрын
Nah, it's because he's playing deathmatch game with no thought of where the team is what's happening to them and the objective. You gotta help the teammates
@HREros
@HREros 2 ай бұрын
@@Lilian040210exactly like if I were the dva when he was defending I would destroy his backline
@madtonesbr
@madtonesbr 2 ай бұрын
100%. he didn’t get hard countered here and still lost. Imagine they have Ana and Sombra.
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 2 ай бұрын
I think he intended to have a high KAD to exactly say what he said. He gave away too much space just for the sake of not dying, which is something you also have to manage as a tank. Second point was almost a freebie for the enemy team because he wanted to keep his low death rate. They had more time to cap third and ended up taking the win because of it. He played with an objective in mind: show that he can do cool techs and get kills. He didn’t want the win, he wanted to get a game to complain about.
@madtonesbr
@madtonesbr 2 ай бұрын
And if that was not his intent, that’s even worse, because he’s missing the point of basic tanking
@Pinkish174
@Pinkish174 2 ай бұрын
He was so afraid to die and probably thinking “you can’t blame me I have less deaths I don’t feed” But during defense he is so afk and not doing anything, waiting the enemy to engage them and not doing his role
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 2 ай бұрын
that lucio on bro's team was dying on cooldown lmfao
@madtonesbr
@madtonesbr 2 ай бұрын
Console gold here. This is 80% of Lucio’s to be honest. They think they’re eskay yet spend 50% of their time on the ground 1v3
@noahhopkins9309
@noahhopkins9309 2 ай бұрын
At 20:00 I can see why he isn’t being aggressive because he isnt getting much healing and the other team was starting to put a lot of pressure on him.
@samuraikatana1
@samuraikatana1 2 ай бұрын
Feel like Lucio was dead so much it was a 4v5 most times.
@Kyoriiz
@Kyoriiz 2 ай бұрын
He left the Lucio to die a lot of times.
@martijnsabel1381
@martijnsabel1381 2 ай бұрын
If you’re the carry on your team, you make one mistake and your team lost. If you’re the worst of your team, you make one good play and you win. That’s what this game felt like to me.
@biray4710
@biray4710 2 ай бұрын
He played well overall but this is more than one mistake. He was too passive on defence. That payload was moving most of the time.
@srikrishnabhat6793
@srikrishnabhat6793 2 ай бұрын
Nope, in defense, the opposing teams backline lacked pressure for the majority of the time. You being a carry doesn't exclude you from playing a team game and knowing whom to target. This is an objective-based game, not a deathmatch.
@martijnsabel1381
@martijnsabel1381 2 ай бұрын
@@srikrishnabhat6793 Fair enough. Still some games tend to feel like what I described.
@wswann34
@wswann34 2 ай бұрын
He plays like a master but doesn't try to adleast destroy a sym turret? This is why sym is so op in low ranks smh
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
i can relate lol the amount if times i've died to sym turrets cos of my aim
@8L4NK.
@8L4NK. 2 ай бұрын
Lol, I play in silver 1 to gold 5, and no one aims at the turrents. It's also crazy how no one pins that much in console.
@boops-w1r
@boops-w1r Ай бұрын
@@8L4NK.cuz you have to take your thumb off the movement stick to click it
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
1:31 soo true they expect you to swap but they themselves will never swap to help you Usually always the dps players i also don't mind counter swapping especially when the enemy can't play what they switched to lol
@contagious_noob3651
@contagious_noob3651 2 ай бұрын
Lol this is me when I'm playing tracer and they try to "counter" me with brig like bro I already won ik you don't know how to play brig lol.
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul Ай бұрын
@@contagious_noob3651 well said 👍
@wheeuji
@wheeuji 2 ай бұрын
1:37 "pigboy play bruh" LOL
@treacle4617
@treacle4617 2 ай бұрын
Oh god the supertf community has breached containment
@fuzzywuzzy4564
@fuzzywuzzy4564 2 ай бұрын
i think tanks, esp doomfists and hamsters, forget that they are the only ones who can reliably hold back the payload on defense. an enemy tank supported by their team will dominate a tankless team any day of the week. dps-minded tanks who think their team should be able to hold the objective by themselves with no tank support lose the game every time lol like sure u went and killed one support in the enemy backline. but you allowing them to steamroll your team ensures they wont really need the extra heals anyway.
@TgPepper
@TgPepper 2 ай бұрын
You know… Based ego vod, the Doom was cooking with electric ⚡️
@ROBBOBBYJUNIOR
@ROBBOBBYJUNIOR Ай бұрын
I'm happy to see that this streamer isnt very critical of the person, didn't criticize every little small mistake but instead saying that it happens and is normal. Also amazing feedback to the gameplay which actually teaches people instead of making them look horrible❤️❤️❤️
@dustinbiester4401
@dustinbiester4401 2 ай бұрын
I saw a few instances where he made something simple into something complex. For instance, instead of just using his charged punch on the enemy team while they're coming through a corridor, he would slam to their flank and try to use the charged punch at the flank. Doom requires a lot of technical ability but sometimes the other team will allow you to get a lot of value by just playing very simply. Keep it simple when you can, get technical when you need to.
@dash4800
@dash4800 2 ай бұрын
The problem with most doom players is they always have the mindset of "i'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing" but they are never thinking about what their team needs them to be doing. If you are all over the map and getting picks but your team is getting rolled by a rein with a mercy pocket on point then what you need to be doing is helping them. Obviously the people you are killing are not the ones carrying the enemy team, so picking them isnt that valuable. Its the same idea as the Sombra from that other vid who is killing the supps over and over but their team is losing the fights anyway. That means you need to help them. If your mindset is "im doing my job and everyone else needs to just do theirs", then you are going to lose more than you win. Your mindset should always be what does my team need from me in order to make it easier for them to play better. And for 95% of players the thing they need is for someone to take the aggro of the tank away from them so they can actually do something.
@lizzfrmhon
@lizzfrmhon 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely and this is why he is gold
@Lilian040210
@Lilian040210 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is a team game, and you gotta know what everyone is doing and what's happening in the game. Cool picks while the whole team is dead aren't doing anything. Most flankers don't remember team or objective exists
@Siks7Ate9
@Siks7Ate9 2 ай бұрын
Except if there are 4 people shooting 1 rein who is getting only mercy healing, you could really argue what is going on... Rein can only shield and not take dmg or do damage and take a ton of damage. Eventually, his resources (hp and shield) should run out.
@dash4800
@dash4800 2 ай бұрын
@@Siks7Ate9 in reality thats not whats happening though. There is the rein with a mercy pocket, and probably one other player running around somewhere around point. So if your best player is out there killing their worst players over an over then what that leaves you is a massive disadvantage overall. Think about it. Its a Rein w shield on point. So hes charging at you everyone shoots for a second then hes on top of at least 1 of you, probably easily gets 1 kill, then puts a shield up and gets full healed by the mercy who you know will never get killed at this rank. Then he gets to do it again. All the while another dps is probably running around also doing a bit of damage. So you either stand and probably die to the unkillable (at this rank) combo, or you back up and give him more space to push. Its an HP battle and if the Rein happens to get a support with his charge then its an HP battle you are never going to win.
@Siks7Ate9
@Siks7Ate9 2 ай бұрын
@dash4800 maybe not specifically in this game,but if there are 2 supports and 2 dps the person the rein gets ontop off should live long enough that rein will basically invest to many resources. But it's also just poor positioning from his teammates in general. I didn't pay particularly close attention to where the rein was going etc, but the fact that you have highgrounds and the rein is apparently just walking down mid and killing people is just horrible. In gold, everyone is shooting at a tank that's easy to hit or directly in front of them. I have had a game where I'm literally solo killing a window and an ana in their spawn on junkertown for 2 minutes straight as wrecking ball in plat1/diamond while on attack, and my teammates say gg ball is throwing. There was only 1 zarya, mercy and a cassidy left to kill as 4 teammates. Like what? How can you say your ball is throwing when you are losing a 4 v 3 against a zarya cassidy mercy while you are playing 2 hitscans, a baptiste and a mercy for 2 minutes. These sort of instances feel the same. Maybe not particularly in this game but yeah.
@realxwildxchild
@realxwildxchild 2 ай бұрын
What the frickle
@codymarrott5720
@codymarrott5720 2 ай бұрын
What the frickle
@hunterlandoe2821
@hunterlandoe2821 2 ай бұрын
What the frickle
@sylvievadimsky7515
@sylvievadimsky7515 2 ай бұрын
Emongg’s comment about learning something from a Gold player is why one-tricks should be feared and respected. If you’ve got the time to put into a character and truly learn everything that character has to offer, you’re a menace to society. It also goes to show that understanding movement, mechanics, etc, on a character can transcend rank.
@romkin1197
@romkin1197 2 ай бұрын
When Emongg was talking about how players on defense play more defensively and that players should be more aggressive as for the defense. I understood that so well. I was in a game as Orisa on a cart map, I was playing extremely aggressive and was basically spawn camping the enemy team consistently, of course my team really helped out with that as I was providing the room they needed to pop off well and the enemy team couldn't touch cart. Even when the enemy tank tried to counter swap me, it just didn't work out for them. That's how i think tanks should play, aggressive, open up space for the DPS to do their job and in turn the supports can do their job without worry.
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 2 ай бұрын
@@romkin1197 I agree. But also the dps should help enable that space in the long run. As I finally have turned into a dps main (because the dps slot in my group finally opened) I keep thinking about the game as if I was the tank/support (the roles I was forced into). So I try to allow my tank to take space by creating distractions (I main Tracer mostly, but also play some Echo and Ashe to be well rounded). What you describe is some synergy that is very rare with the whole knowing the mission and going for it. I've had those kind of games and it's so satisfactory to have a team like that. Recently I had a game where the enemy team flamed our supports for having total 20k less heals then them (we won). But guess what, our supports didn’t need to heal that much because our tank didn’t have to worry about five people shooting at them all at once. Their supports had to worry about the flanking Ashe, the flying Junkrat and off-angling Kiriko.
@romkin1197
@romkin1197 2 ай бұрын
@@ragingdemon1344 When it comes to DPS, it boils down to which you're playing. If you're a DPS is to flank, yeah being that distraction can help alleviate pressure, but it also depends where you're fighting the enemy team too. But if you're something that can't really flank say Bastion for example, if you're able to get kills for free, then the Tank is doing their job. Of course there is a lot of factors to consider and I'm just a newb that just plays for fun.
@Curvyllama
@Curvyllama 2 ай бұрын
His target priority was the best. Wish more tanks just didn’t look at the enemy tank
@mistake1197
@mistake1197 2 ай бұрын
This dooms better than some plat ones 😂
@lazycat331
@lazycat331 20 күн бұрын
17:38 emongg: much better doomfist: thats better
@PaktNisely
@PaktNisely 2 ай бұрын
This doom was actually pretty dang good! My only gripe is that they did a lot of using slam into punch without letting slam hit for the overhealth first. Especially when they have EP. It isnt always bad, but sometimes you gotta slow down and take a second to think on what your move will be. He made a lot of good choices and had great target priority, but as doom you should always have a way out if need be.
@danielhernadezgarcia518
@danielhernadezgarcia518 2 ай бұрын
Tbh everytime the doom was making a good play all I could hear was the sound effects of his teamates dying
@cameralife8
@cameralife8 2 ай бұрын
This was one of my favorite spectating videos you've made! I really loved watching this guy and all the mechanics he has!
@coltenguadagnoli8326
@coltenguadagnoli8326 2 ай бұрын
The sym turret thing is so accurate like shoot them please. Same with Torb turrets like people look at it and just get shot by it.
@patrickzard9333
@patrickzard9333 Ай бұрын
at 15:35 the reason the punch hit is because he punched the tree, not the wall. The tree counts as a hitbox same as mei's wall and the fact that it was empowered punch made it have larger range. Great video
@KiryuuYoshiya
@KiryuuYoshiya 2 ай бұрын
"its more likely theyll pull the soldier by accident but its the thought that counts" is my general experience as a lifeweaver player. the amount of times people walk directly into my pull los right as i hit the button to yoink the tank away from death is mind boggling. begging blizz for a pull confirm like ana nano 😭
@IamD9595
@IamD9595 2 ай бұрын
Doom: “I don’t know what more I could have done to win this game” Also Doom: Doesn’t take space or contest payload on defense and then c9s in OT… Also also Doom: “Team diff!”
@DiabolicalOrganisation
@DiabolicalOrganisation 2 ай бұрын
he did not c9 in OT literally nothing he couldve done there the other team just killed everyone else
@thebeesknees6896
@thebeesknees6896 2 ай бұрын
@@DiabolicalOrganisationhe did c9 on his attack in OT lmao but okay
@raulgonazzaz6108
@raulgonazzaz6108 Ай бұрын
How was he not taking space? He was literally living rent free in the bastion and support's heads the entire game
@Pokauyo
@Pokauyo 2 ай бұрын
As a rising ball player this is very educational. It's almost same playstyle and same mistakes.
@warm_egg_salad5953
@warm_egg_salad5953 Ай бұрын
Love doom, Main'd or secondaried him since he was dps, it feels so good to double charge punch people after using a block to defend team then dive after cooldowns come back with the pre charge.
@rees1058
@rees1058 2 ай бұрын
Great point about adapting to team playstyle. It's probably my biggest issue in the game.
@epiczerozz3003
@epiczerozz3003 2 ай бұрын
As a Doom enjoyer currently in gold 1, I could learn from this guy. As well as the good mechanical plays, they seem to be good at reading when and how to disengage, which is something i need to work on as my playstyle is often pretty aggressive. Great review!
@ragingdemon1344
@ragingdemon1344 2 ай бұрын
@@epiczerozz3003 Honeslty.... Don’t. He allowed the enemy team to engage on his tankless team way too many times and played very passively in order to get an ego vod out of it. The best DFs out there are constantly doing something, constantly putting pressure into the enemy team. Second point defense he literally gave away the entire point just to not die. A good tank knows when to die and where to die (usually you unlock that skill in high diamond). You could learn from his mechanics all day long. But watch someone else if you wanna learn about engaging and disengaging while still participating in the game.
@kiritofanboy
@kiritofanboy 2 ай бұрын
i dont think ive ever been more scared of a video than after the sentence doomfist gold 4 tank on consol, played near master level
@calvinko1605
@calvinko1605 Ай бұрын
The main problem is that he’s playing like a dps, never helping his team like that fight in the other teams second attack round where he ran onto the lily pad
@AAzraelontop
@AAzraelontop 2 ай бұрын
The problem with tanks like Doomfist and Hammond is that nobody likes to capitalize on the plays they make which leads to losses.
@djlemon40
@djlemon40 2 ай бұрын
I always hold that angle just to stop cart even not in OT. It’s just such a good angle to make them over extend and peek that corner.
@antoineszturemski329
@antoineszturemski329 2 ай бұрын
He's good on mechanic but he's aim is clearly gold plat imo 26:36 bro losted the point cause he missed that zen, also the lucio should had swap lmao bro is dying on cooldown
@wisepi8806
@wisepi8806 2 ай бұрын
I would believe he can be in that rank IF he is in a premade with the Lucio.
@endershel8163
@endershel8163 2 ай бұрын
I've been playing doom recently and holy crap hes so fun
@yairsense
@yairsense Ай бұрын
I feel like a huge problem was that he was too focused on getting kills and plays rather then stopping the enemy team from completing the objective, he was barely on point the entire match, and while it isn't necessary the doom's job to push or cap even when he could've contested he went for a kill rather than stopping the enemy team. Not to mention he barely protected and stayed with his team, half the game he is on his own adventure of hunting down the pharah or mercy and while that is important, while he does that the Dva is massacring his dps and healers. there were a lot of moments where he just left mid figjt because he was starting to reach half health, leaving his team to die.
@janus2773
@janus2773 2 ай бұрын
i might be wrong on this but i feel like this doom gives up so much free damage because they cancel the slam with the punch all the time. if they just waited a tenth of a second longer they'd get the slam on top. is there any advantage to doing it that way?
@Team98
@Team98 2 ай бұрын
He does address this in the video. It's so the doom can get a better punch angle and do stuff like push enemies into the team. I noticed that too. Honestly amazing on dooms part cos I would never think about cancelling slam but yeah pushing enemy into team is gonna be better on average than that little bit of extra slam damage. Especially since you'll be out of cool downs. I mostly saw this play done to DVA and Juno cos that way they have to use cool downs to escape or die to the team. If this is a gold doom fist, I'm gonna derank so hard lmao
@Eeeeerisssss
@Eeeeerisssss 2 ай бұрын
That bastion is the guy in all my comp games who feels compelled to always shoot a blocking doom lmao
@nickmayes9125
@nickmayes9125 2 ай бұрын
Literally his whole talk with counter swap is what I felt when I did my placements two weeks ago on tank. Jesus to true man
@JasonBoring
@JasonBoring 2 ай бұрын
Your hair is saying "I've got these voices man! All these voices in my head! "
@DamdyPirate
@DamdyPirate 2 ай бұрын
As an older gamer, I totally understand slowing down a little after 15mins of constant high intensity gaming. Just gimme 10 seconds to reassess and I'll get back into it.
@IMLS7
@IMLS7 Ай бұрын
7:28 some spooky tracking
@IVISMiLESIVI
@IVISMiLESIVI 2 ай бұрын
I'm silver 4 DPS and I literally had a game where a support Lucio immediately asked for the Junker Queen to swap saying she was terrible. I'm like "Says who?" and he's just like "She's bad just swap." The other team pushed cart all the way and on attack the Lucio was like "See I told you she's bad." And funny enough our support comp was Lucio/Mercy so I'm just like "Look pal you wanna talk about bad, our team comp is the literal worst, so how bout one of you swap? No wonder our tank can't survive." Lmao.
@8L4NK.
@8L4NK. 2 ай бұрын
Lol, that reminds me of when I draw in a gold 5 game. I was playing doom, and my Lucio said to swap to Reinhardt because they had an Orisa. I was cooking the whole game, literally had 40 kills and they told my ass to swap off because orisa counters doom. The whole team gave up during ot as I was trying my best to win. The map was king's row. It also sucked because my dps wouldn't push with me, rather they would stay behind me with the healers.
@Lilian040210
@Lilian040210 2 ай бұрын
8:38 they didn't know there was Bastion there until he got shot at, I didn't hear him either, sound bugs?
@ToadimusPrime
@ToadimusPrime 2 ай бұрын
Okay, just 5 minutes in, I noticed some things here. As a support main in diamond, I can tell you this guy is waaaay too selfish and doesn't play with his team. His mechanics are good, and he knows which targets to engage and when. But he never plays with his team. He goes in solo and doesn't care what happens to his supports and team. I know that Doom is meant to engage and assassinate, but at some point you gotta play the objective and peel for your team, especially with Doom, a hero who can reposition so well and punish those who bully his supports and some DPS. So ye, my verdict is selfishness.
@group555_
@group555_ 2 ай бұрын
this is what I was thinking. going in solo as doom is fine cause he can get out and it's pressure. but you need a balance where you also help your team so they can do their job too. of course your team is going to play worse when they don't get any help from you
@kingvalor8265
@kingvalor8265 2 ай бұрын
I struggle with this issue also and he is really trying to help the team by engaging on low hp targets at the cost of maybe their tank doing the same. I’m a support main too and I love the way he plays. Allows us to frag a lot more and show mechanics as well. Similar to the way ball plays
@ToadimusPrime
@ToadimusPrime 2 ай бұрын
@@kingvalor8265 And that's sometimes fine, depending on the team comp. If your supports are Zenyata and Mercy, you shouldn't really do this. But if you got fairly survivable supports like Moira, Brig, Kiriko...then sure, it's fine to do what this Doom does. That's also a huge part of climbing elo: recognize your team comp and what you can do and can't.
@karellymunoz3773
@karellymunoz3773 2 ай бұрын
anddeysay
@DespecifiedRed
@DespecifiedRed 2 ай бұрын
anddeysay
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 2 ай бұрын
anddeysay
@sujiss
@sujiss 2 ай бұрын
anddeysay
@Cat-ml2gk
@Cat-ml2gk 2 ай бұрын
Emongg was spitting truth about teammates expecting the tank only to swap.
@diogosousa7698
@diogosousa7698 2 ай бұрын
Well i wish i had this doom on my team "my" doom will jsut go ahead of the team into a cass+sombra or mei and die meanwhile am lw a hero that can save him easily still far away from him
@CreamedKorn420
@CreamedKorn420 2 ай бұрын
1:36 emonggs speaking nothing but truth
@charlesromero2671
@charlesromero2671 Ай бұрын
At 6:18 was it a lucky guess that Bastion wa there?
@notapplicable2616
@notapplicable2616 2 ай бұрын
At 19:44 you say they were safing, and kinda implied that's why that fight went poorly. Sure, maybe they could've tried to make a play on somebody who was split, but I think defending the bastion was the better play. Hell I'd argue the real mistake there was not playing defense in that side room so they couldn't get to the bastion. He could've held for a few seconds longer but still have an escape, and probably give his bastion time to regen / run.
@claudiuspulcher2440
@claudiuspulcher2440 2 ай бұрын
@24:15 "that was just a hindsight one..." no, it's the opposite of that. Hindsight would be saying "well it worked out so it was a great play." Saying "this is a questionable play" before you find out what happens is literally the opposite of hindsight. Meanwhile, 29:07 does kind of seem like hindsight thinking where it goes from "nice job stopping the ult" to "well you should have been on the point"
@jotarokujo3603
@jotarokujo3603 2 ай бұрын
This guy had to literally land in front of the enemy to get any of them to look at him. This looks like the kind of gameplay you get from someone who's played way too much Doomfist parkour, has the character's mechanics down and now their entire decision making process revolves around what is the flashiest play possible.
@TopoSalsero
@TopoSalsero Ай бұрын
i think swapping as dps or supp is much more important than tank, im sorta new to the game and just got to plat on all my roles (recently dropped tank to gold as I dont play the role much and was focused on getting the other two there), yet still amuses me how some people can have 500-800 hours to the game and not understand, if something isnt working, maybe try switching, sure maybe no one is playing correctly, but dang, imagine your team is just running in on defense all the time, maybe a lucio with speed boost could be the pick, also the doom is good but fk him, hate one tricks :l, swapping is a core mechanic of the game for a reason.
@kiritofanboy
@kiritofanboy 2 ай бұрын
look at where his team is every now and then, either to get support when you need it or to help them if they went to go flank or dive or smth. dont just straight up ignores meis cooldowns, learn slam / punch cancel. Get used to keep a movement ability, you use all your abilities so often if they had a sleep hook hack or anything really youd just die every fight. just bc your team doesnt respect your space and you get away with plays like these every now and then that doesnt mean that its gonna be anywhere near that only one rank up. You gotta get used to looking for cooldown usage before you engage. keep improving and look at your own gameplay crittically and youll get better!
@kingvalor8265
@kingvalor8265 2 ай бұрын
He is really good. His team and supports will be able to frag when he ranks up except for the occasional mercy and lifeweaver one tricks that likely hate him. Similar play style to ball. Gotta baby your team in gold I suppose though they don’t know any better
@0uas
@0uas 2 ай бұрын
Yo I understand that. People always talking about it is the tanks fault, meaning me sometimes and I'm like "this is a team sport."
@armoredbear184
@armoredbear184 2 ай бұрын
Doomfist is a selfish aggressive tank . it isn't a bad thing but it requires a completely different mindset from almost every other tank in the game because your teammates are typically used to a tank they can hide behind.
@joesusin8935
@joesusin8935 Ай бұрын
This doom lost because he did not understand where the pressure was on his team. Usually the good plays you get as doom are because your team is taking more pressure than you are which gives you an opening. This was happening for the entirety of this game. The problem was that he as one person was not able to apply more pressure than the enemy was applying on his team. Sure he messed up mechanically sometimes but it didnt matter that much, what mattered was he was not in the enemy’s way enough.
@daddydrip304
@daddydrip304 2 ай бұрын
Every time I play doom it feels like they all hard focus me to make sure I can’t even play
@CanadianCat101
@CanadianCat101 2 ай бұрын
I think it was less the case he was "master level gameplay" more of that the other team wasn't that good at all, people sometimes make that mistake where u roll people and think "yeah im so good!" But its just that they are not playing 100%, and then they lose next game and blame their teammates
@Kro_NHL
@Kro_NHL 27 күн бұрын
I love playing against dooms, I’m a Ana main and they get so tilted and the other team starts getting mad at them and it’s just free
@TiakOSRS
@TiakOSRS 2 ай бұрын
7:27 I might be crazy, but he tracks that Bastion through the wall a bit too well..
@darkestbefore
@darkestbefore 2 ай бұрын
I feel like some people don't understand that there are tanks that don't just sit in front of the other tank
@elorahendrix9611
@elorahendrix9611 2 ай бұрын
I knew that orisa would be back in meta after the patch they gave her spear headshot ability. It wasn’t that ability that made me think she would be meta, it was the fact I knew they would keep buffing her after that. Also I hate that it does that, like it already stuns most alts and is impossible to miss, wtf does it need headshot damage
@EdwardGordington
@EdwardGordington 2 ай бұрын
7:28 so we just going to ignore that this guy is looking at the enemy bastion through the wall????????????????
@SmugPrik
@SmugPrik 2 ай бұрын
He saw them enter and is just predicting where they'll be based on walk speed.
@EdwardGordington
@EdwardGordington 2 ай бұрын
@@SmugPrik ......yeah okay just like everyone does.... naturally youd just aim your retical where they are going to pop out not fake trace them through the wall beo NO ONE DOES THAT LOL.
@SmugPrik
@SmugPrik 2 ай бұрын
@EdwardGordington What's more likely? He's simply predicting the enemy's movements, or he's wall hacking... on console... as a doomfist... and then recorded it to be vod reviewed.
@EdwardGordington
@EdwardGordington 2 ай бұрын
@@SmugPrik go watch 100 other vod reviews ans see how often people trace people through walls it doesn't happen its natural when you think somones about to pop out the other end of something you aim at where they are going to appear not ping them dead on through the wall you're actually dence as fk if you think this is normal. So to answer ur question yes i think the latter is more likely by a large margin, you act like console is harder to hack on or something and thats just total bs because it's twice as easy!!!!
@dustinbiester4401
@dustinbiester4401 2 ай бұрын
If he was wall hacking he would've very clearly seen that Mei standing by spawn waiting to put a wall up at the beginning of the video and not wasted both of his movement cooldowns. He also would've seen that Dva fly to high ground on 3rd point when he left that area after waiting there to protect his low-health Bastion for 10+ seconds.
@igeomagician
@igeomagician Күн бұрын
I know nothing about masters, but dude definitely deserves higher than gold
@inkromancer_studios
@inkromancer_studios 2 ай бұрын
He's not playing tank doom, he's playing dps doom...He's never with his team, frequently leaves them to die, and goes on wild flanks while the rest of the team gets picked off one by one. If the only think you're contributing to a team as a tank is a kill count you're not contributing much at all. Youre better off being a Venture OTP and letting someone else protect your team...
@djlemon40
@djlemon40 2 ай бұрын
Lucio died to many times trying to help the doom. And was seemingly the first to die most team fight losses.
@NoBotOW
@NoBotOW 2 ай бұрын
He didnt die once on attack. Really good stuff
@iTzvLxneYT
@iTzvLxneYT 2 ай бұрын
i think i played against him before as doom and made his team leave. i swear that was him i played on kings row a couple weeks ago.
@AntivenomOW
@AntivenomOW 2 ай бұрын
I was not expecting the gold doom on console to exactly have a good sensitivity 👍
@TheRivalVerse2
@TheRivalVerse2 Ай бұрын
nobody gonna talk about the crosshair at 7:26 ish? he placed their crosshair right on bastion thru da wall twice
@SurfNturfz
@SurfNturfz Ай бұрын
I'm trying to catch up on all the changes since OW1... 50 new maps & I remember doomfist being sh*t, now he's wrecking at least 1 or 2 out of every 5 of my games 😂 I miss the Mei stun 😭
@cmmcfielful
@cmmcfielful 2 ай бұрын
Im also gold 4 and i play diva and doom mostly but flex the others ofcourse as every other tank player. But i definitely think he got some skills on doom but the flashiness of each play in my opinion sold him. Your trying to play like zbra and getquakedon in gold bruv. These guys dont require all that to be survivable and get the job done. Keep up on your skills but keep it simple at the same time.
@seanpowers1899
@seanpowers1899 2 ай бұрын
This guy was trying SO HARD to punch people out of the air. Granted, it is definitely not easy to do, and you have to practice somewhere, but going to plays like that when the enemy tank is running amok is not always great lol
@Kallelinski
@Kallelinski 2 ай бұрын
Personally I'd rather have a Doom in my enemy team than in my own, it's way easier to deal with him, otherwise all my team does is figuring out how to play with just 4, while Doom is doing his own things somewhere else.
@AaronWOfficial
@AaronWOfficial 2 ай бұрын
I feel like he was going too much for that ego kill on the pharah at the start on defense and it cost him a lot of other opportunities for playmaking he could have gotten better value from. Also his lucio fed his brains out on defense, so I can't blame him for putting some blame on his team.
@monkey7255
@monkey7255 2 ай бұрын
Diamond 5 console here and his Doom is considerably better than mine.
@FallenQueenOfCrows
@FallenQueenOfCrows 2 ай бұрын
honestly I feel they could climb and the only reason they may not be is because they ego, a lot of that first round seemed to be just their opponents are bad so they capped point
@tabunga4669
@tabunga4669 2 ай бұрын
Instead of always being on the blue side of the team. I'd like to be on red like you see here
@starboyaddy4494
@starboyaddy4494 2 ай бұрын
He did good for his rank i dont wanna b negative cause he was poppin his shi but as a hardcore doom main thats made it to a high elo he made so many mistakes where he could have been punished
@MrTotoleouf
@MrTotoleouf 2 ай бұрын
It's a team diff, sometimes we need to accept that we can't win every single game.
@trollduspat9034
@trollduspat9034 2 ай бұрын
i hate counterswapping yes i peaked top 500 but this was 5 years ago rn i came back to the game after 2 years not playing so im gold but my mates still dont swap of zarya when they have mauga bastion ( i myself do counterswap bc i know how to play the game) but both heals feeding the tank just for him to die bc they didnt counterswap just isnt fun
@wicked5999
@wicked5999 2 ай бұрын
Hard to swallow pills for low elo players: If your win-rate is around 50% you are where you belong You could always have played better Being toxic does not make your team play better If you think your team is always bad, that is a self roast The enemy team does not always have a smurf You remember bad games way more easily than good games Individual games may not be "your fault", but not climbing is You do not know better than your team mates
@seal869
@seal869 Күн бұрын
The “pace of your team” thing is a lot like counter swapping. The tank is expected to make the adjustment but dps never will. I’m a doom/ball main and I’ve never had a tracer complain about my play. Meanwhile some dumb bastion who likes to sit on point and go brrr is like “dude what you doin?” But he’s not playing with the tank!
@thedude0000
@thedude0000 2 ай бұрын
90% of all doom players think they play a perfect match...
@calamityjones8701
@calamityjones8701 2 ай бұрын
Give this guy Diamond
@L.Reeves
@L.Reeves 13 күн бұрын
Masters or even Gm on attack. Silver/bronze on defense. Apparently that averages out to gold 4
@moonyeast
@moonyeast 2 ай бұрын
what the frickle was i supposed to do.
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