This Doomfist REALLY Doesn't Like Moira | Overwatch 2 Spectating

[@Icy_815]

Whenever I get a doomfist on my team I know it’s either going to be the most mind numbing experience ever. Or the easiest game of my life

[@olivierlaborde7887]

yeah whenever I see a doom on the enemy team in comp, I get slightly worried for a second until I know if they are god tier or not

[@ciach0_]

Yeah, there's no in between You're either throwing or stomping on doom

[@FemboyPaws]

Real, my list of "Okay we're either going to steamroll them or this is going to be the worst game of my life" is Doom, Wreaking and sometimes Widow/Hanzo. Players are either the most cracked in existence or being controlled by a hamster.

[@Aias49]

I wish I could like this comment a hundred times. 😆

[@HereComesCats]

Very true, I had 2 dooms back to back the other day. One was good, self-sustained, and commed even. Another was diving into their spawn and crying that our "heals" suck. 😅

[@JohnGundy]

Played a game last night on hollywood. Get into the lobby & our tank instantly types “surely this isn’t the 4th game in a row my team are shit” enemy tank told him “surely it’s always your team & not your own actions” he picked doom & fed all game. Proceeded to blame everyone lmao just to get called out by most the lobby telling him he is clearly the problem.

[@nostalgjc1]

this roadhog has held onto ultimate for so long that the enemy tank had time to switch and managed to even get ultimate

[@TheShapingSickness]

This guy's tank was throwing the game. Doesn't even know the concept of taking cover.

[@Moonslayer01]

Typical doom player lol

[@internetsurfer3287]

tank players are the worst lmfao, most toxic role playerbase in the game

[@alexander2019.]

@@internetsurfer3287you forgotten the dps player?

[@savage3PC]

@@internetsurfer3287 tank is the least toxic playerbase, the frustration of playing tank just makes you wanna be toxic 70% of the time

[@Lilian040210]

That's 95% of OW playerbase

[@MID-CRISIS27]

I honestly think they probably only went hog bc he can heal himself lmao

[@RedUniPanda]

Honestly true

[@tvBoyo]

Most of the time, when a tank complains aboit heals... they swap to hog only to not heal themselves loool

[@jonah-b7k]

Which is insane because hog needs resources. Sure he CAN self heal, but he's like mauga in that regard.

[@liathedoll]

My duo is Doom main and if I’m only one really healing he switches to Hog for self heal. So I’m pretty sure that’s the case here too.

[@ThunderElzyn]

"amma be real with y'all, if y'all have seen my widow, it ain't gonna go well for anyone" is kinda why I like emongg so much, he's so real for that

[@SalviAlmighty]

Ah, the classic Tank who jump halfway across the map in the middle of their entire team ALONE with no escape plan and expect their supports to out-heal the 1v5 (and that's when they aren't hiding behind corners)

[@BackstabAna]

Fr fr And us support mains struggle, get flamed for it and sometimes even lose the match , some tanks are selfish like that

[@moleedaboi]

Technically if both supports are healing him, that makes it a 3 v 5 not that it makes a difference.

[@vixenfireivy]

especially in defense when getting a pick isnt as valued, like their spawn is right there.

[@livelock101]

Hello! I’m the person in this video lol. I appreciate your input a lot and will be applying that to my future games! I was never even aware that I was using my ult reactively on Moira and not proactively. I definitely needed someone to look at my gameplay since all my friends are silver lol. I also appreciate all the comments that I have read so far that are giving helpful tips. I totally thought that this loss was on me but now I see that the loss wasn’t entirely on me 😂 Thank you again! Love the content :)

[@savage3PC]

You honestly did pretty good but I recommend running lifeweaver, ana, or kiriko if you want an easier time playing with a doomfist on your team, moira has to get very close to heal teammates and doom moves a ton so playing moira is very risky with doomfist

[@quack4chu]

⁠@@savage3PC i find that playing moira aggressively with the doom can be quite effective if you know what you’re doing but obviously kiri is a pretty good pick and lifeweaver being somewhat okay. i would say that if you have an escape route, don’t be afraid to be in the backline with her obviously supporting dps/tank

[@savage3PC]

@@quack4chu she’s good with him on maps like Kings Row

[@cloudstrife9188]

Also a tip for Moria ult, use it like you would valk! Moria ult doesn't do as much damage as it used to. It's better as pressure and to keep the team's momentum up. Great work though, sorry the tank was so upset. Hope your ranked climb goes smooth❤

[@Capn_Chunk]

For what it's worth I think you played great. Good resource management between dmg and healing. This Tank player clearly just wanted a double pocket which is just cemented by the fact they swapped Hog lol. A good DF knows to save either punch or Slam as an escape option to get back to the team for healing or a med pack as he's so mobile very few supports can keep up with him. Definitely not entirely on you. Keep practicing and you'll be dominating on Moira in no time 👍🏻

[@maxdietz9600]

doom shoulda seen the name meatpounder and accepted the dif

[@dash4800]

Also, a thing as Moira that helps turn games for me sometimes is just enable the best dps on your team. I would have just said screw the tank and followed reaper around and helped him kill the backline. Its sometimes hard to realize that in the middle of a game but I have had many games turn around just because I started hunting kills with a reaper and just overwhelmed their squishy players. You just gotta accept the tank is gonna do what hes gonna do and decide to use Moiras kit to its fullest and win it yourself. Thats the big reason I play moira, because I know I can carry games offensively with her if I need to.

[@Moonslayer01]

I personally rather have a healing moira than a dps moira. I have had games where a moira on my team would throw by never healing, but dps badly and dies constantly contributing nothing but a loss, but i do see your points.

[@ilkkuPvP]

@@Moonslayer01 Whatever leads to a win, is the correct play :D

[@Mon_55]

Omg it's so weird that you said this lol I just started playing OW 2 ranked and I was playing Reaper, I was constantly trying to take pressure away from my teammates by shooting from behind the opposite team. It was working, but it seemed like my team was still being pressured heavily because it's like they still couldn't move forward even after I've killed a player or two. At one point I noticed the entire enemy team was holding a choke and far away from their support that was sitting near the payload (we were literally a few inches away from the third point) so I walked over and killed the support and his teammate came out of nowhere. I got him one shot and died AND I don't know how or when, my Kiriko teammate teleported to me and killed the guy and pushed the payload and we won! I'm so glad this player noticed what I was doing. Even though I'm new, I've noticed that a lot of players do not have very good situational awareness (or things like paying attention to their teammates location etc). That Kiriko literally won us the game with that move alone.

[@Moonslayer01]

@ilkkuPvP unless they're throwing, but again, I didn't disagree

[@izab3ru]

You can say this about any support really (except maybe weaver). Your job as support is to enable plays. Identify who the playmaker in any given fight or situation.

[@scarletnyx7416]

I had a game where both of our dps were upset (before the game even started) that I was playing Juno (switched to Moira) and the other support was play Kiri because we were playing DPS supports. They got themselves tilted and automatically started attacking us after we lost first point. I can’t stand these players that want you to coddle them and dedicate yourself to their cause.

[@wswann34]

Bap and illari are more DPS supports lol. Those players probably watch too much streamers

[@nostalgjc1]

same, one time a sombra told me to get off juno before the game even started 😭 we ended up rolling the enemy team and winning

[@pretty.billy.]

Have they not got the memo that Juno is actually good? They’re running on old information. I usually have happy dps when I go Juno , thankfully

[@scarletnyx7416]

@@pretty.billy. I love when Juno is on the team she does great work.

[@scarletnyx7416]

@@nostalgjc1 I had a Sombra complain too. I was Kiri and the other support was Zen. Our Sombra was complaining that we weren’t healing them (We were winning at this point like actually rolling the other team) and she threw the game because she kept diving into the enemy team and going AFK.

[@Lizzie4843]

Ah, hog. The classic pick of overly aggressive tanks who want to blame their supports. That’s all I needed to see 😅 9:37

[@aimlesswitch]

this is a simple case of tank diff

[@asap-n3x]

this doom is like 70% of my plat tanks

[@iamcool544]

Doom was feeding their fucking brains out

[@TheShapingSickness]

What brains?

[@wiggle-ninja8653]

Husband always identifies my nightly binge by the “ALRIGHT, SO!” 😂

[@blondecultistRAT]

Once had a Doom (open queue qp btw) who was just feeding and I was the only healer and I was mercy since the rest of my team benefited from her. And it was easy to keep them alive as the only healer. Well ol Doom boy kept diving the back line and dying, like I mean he was making out with the enemy back line behind walls. He then started saying how bad I was in game chat. I swapped Mei, no healer and we lost. Like if you’re gonna feed and then get mad at the ONLY healer. I ain’t playing healer bro. Not to mention when I would try to heal him, he wouldn’t protect me from the enemy team and just left me to die. The reason I bring this up is why do all Doom players expect healing when they quite literally are so far in the back line the enemy team would swear they’re on their team.

[@lemonzest_]

Oh i've seen this scenario multiple times. Feeding tank blaming our only support in open queue. They complain about heals so much and sometimes even swap to a support. Proceeds to never heal anyone and still die on cooldown, it's hilarious😂

[@littlecocogoat]

ironic I rarely ever flank because it's too risky

[@tankdjsims]

I know a doom main isnt talking , doom mains dont swap no matter how bad they are, the only time a doom player swaps is the last 5 seconds of the game, can't wait for hero bans

[@pathg13geek]

That's cause when we die we say to ourselves, "one more death then Ill switch." Then we don't switch.

[@wswann34]

Once doom players see Sombra or orisa, they switch immediately lol

[@fus3n]

@@pathg13geek And dey say doom's aren't the problem

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

​@@wswann34no they don't

[@damon6086]

The average Doom main can't even play Doom. They just punch in and die while complaining about how Doom is trash and bugged.

[@ObsidianQuasar]

Maybe it’s the new Warcraft Collaboration, but seeing a lot more Leeroy Jenkins in matches

[@THE__VANNY_._1]

I feel like doom players could be pocketed all game and they’d still manage to throw a fit over the support(s)

[@Koselill]

This happens like half the time with rein mains too. Some are godly and others charge into the enemy team 1v5 and expect the supports to pocket them and them surviving... their egos are just so massive 😅

[@THE__VANNY_._1]

@@Koselillagreed😂

[@namity1305]

Shortly after I started playing the game, I had a QP game where I was HARDpocketing as Moira a Doom that was omegafeeding... he would constantly spam "I need healing!" and "Thanks!" every time he died, even with me dumping literally all of my fuel onto him 24/7 to the point I was struggling to find a window of time to recharge.

[@13e09]

happened

[@designerpsycho9640]

​@namity1305 I had a Zaria who was complaining "why am I alone on robot" and "I'm not getting any healing" while I was healing him as Moria but he left our whole team to go push robot while enemy team's tank was camping our spawn getting picked off, like yeah one tank versus three people should be easy but both people who could attack her through her matrix being away wasn't great and I had to choose stay with tank or leave to help the rest the team

[@ShoppingEagle13]

I like going zen with a doom. If I got an orb on you, it’s gonna be your fault when you die lol

[@KoiPuff]

You can IMMEDIATELY tell they prefer to play Mercy, their movement is more assured. They feel more at ease with her. A quick tip for their Mercy gameplay. Unless you are the absolute LAST person alive in OT and you’re the touch, DO NOT TOUCH CART. That’s where the enemies are, that’s where all the lights want them to go, you are no use to anyone on cart. If it was ME in that first fight (Masters/GM Mercy Main) I would have been up at that choke with the JQ instead of afk on cart with the Soldier. Would it have saved the JQ? Maybe not but maybe she would have lasted a bit longer, maybe woulda had 80 to Ult because of the damage boost. ALWAYS be doing something let someone else be Payload Princess. Edit: Chat praises the blue beaming on Soldier/Cass later but THAT BEAM ISNT DOING ANYTHING. If Cass is sitting on cart doing 3dmg from a mile away the Blue Beam is WORTHLESS. All the afk on Cart just means their team was fighting a 3v5 bc the Cass and Mercy are having a date. I don’t even need to see the stat line to know the Mercy had like 500db by the end when they EASILY could have had over 1000. Ideally you’d want to db the Cass/Soldier but if they’re the payload babysitter then you go to someone else.

[@CarelessBeach]

Great point on damage boost. The beam should always be playing audio cues - either the wooshy sound of healing, or the tickticktick of boosting damage. If your beam isn't making noise, flick onto someone else. Usually that's whoever is upfront, even if they're not as good as the dps that decided to be a champ and push the cart.

[@Lilian040210]

Ay, for sure, their Moira was clumsy af, healing air most of the time because of the range and just generally running around not knowing what to do

[@DaMastaDavina]

I like emongg mentions the easier you make it on your supports the better time you’ll have. I always try my best to keep los and close to cover and it helps a ton. Also I personally never attempt to 1v5 especially because even a top 500 player with buffs can struggle and lose to 5 bronze players. Just puts it into perspective that I can’t accomplish anything without teamwork.

[@zeos26]

I wish Overwatch would record voice and text chat for replays

[@reecephillips2003]

the screen shaking get me every time 😂

[@watafumx]

That tank is the Leeroy Jenkins of OW2. Hope at least he had chicken.

[@natsu_kamado1865]

Honestly no matter what role I’d be, if I was told to switch I wouldn’t out of spite. I’ll gladly lose if I get to play the hero I want.

[@abyssalcrisis]

One of the only times I played ranked, I got told to switch off Mercy. We were doing fine. Out of spite, I played the fuck out of Mercy. We lost but at least I had fun.

[@necrosis6037]

@@abyssalcrisiswhat kind of comp was it

[@lil_230]

you are the worst type of player

[@isaiahf-d846]

@@lil_230 I respect it tbh the people who tell others to switch usually deserve to lose unless they're just being nice about it and the nice ones will understand if you choose not to switch

[@faelheavymetal]

Then you're part of the problem. Good job.

[@afanas4635]

Doom one tricks in metal ranks are literally the worst players

[@SawyerFools]

Yup. In metal ranks doom/ball are throw picks

[@Lordzarvea]

Mauga too

[@D_Jilla]

Honestly, a good rule of thumb I use is that whoever the most toxic person is the worst player on the team.

[@FenrirLupo]

@@SawyerFools not necessarily, there are many who don't know how to deal with them and doom/ball end up destroying the backline.

[@trapout8250]

Honestly this tank is the typical tank player that usually gets double pocketed and pops off. Obviously it’s a lot easier to pop off on tank if you’re taking all of the team resources. They never adapt and just face tank all of the other teams damage and just think they’re not getting any heals.

[@ciarawalker2009]

I had a game like this today and it was just horrific being support trying to explain that you're actually trying 😂

[@moon-pp2uo]

I wish we could have seen Twitch Chat in the video

[@ZeroGravity300]

My experience is that doomfists are the most toxic tanks.

[@Iscoileachme]

Understandable. They play a mechanically demanding hero so they assume they must play perfectly just because they picked him. It ought to be the other way around but this idea never flies through their minds. Not exclusive to doom mains though.

[@ZeroGravity300]

@@Iscoileachme agreed. Others are definitely at fault too. Just mainly comes from the doom players.

[@XxMijoruxX]

How this doom feels about Moira players is how I feel every single game getting a doom as my tank pick. I always make sure to go Lifeweaver to stop them from over extending every fight then they cry bully the entire lobby because they like feeding.

[@draft6611]

emongg forget that doomfist players cannot be reasoned with

[@Ky-uf7wt]

Teammates like that Doom is the EXACT reason (other than me genuinely liking his gameplay loop/kit) why Lifeweaver is my TOP support and character- (I also just like the fact his healing tracks fliers/high jumpers, I'm not good at Mercy, and I don't have good enough aim for Ana-)

[@ccricers]

Doom decided to play one of my favorite Xbox Live games. Feeding Frenzy

[@ezacklee115]

Love the people who hold ult till the rnd of round..

[@error404webpagenotfound]

I played with a doomfist in comp the other day that threw bc we had a widow. Did nothing but stand in front of her and block her view. She had the most damage on our team by the end. Granted noone else on the team could really do anything, and we lost, but she still had the most dmg on the team.

[@nintandao64]

watching this tank play makes my blood pressure skyrocket good lord lmao

[@nostalgjc1]

honestly tanks just like to complain when they don’t have supports that can baby them and hold their hand

[@GProsperity]

As someone who has over 200 hours for moira, they are wasting their resources, not even healing the teammates when they spray and a low sense of awareness

[@atomicdogz5464]

Man i got confused for a second me and the sombra on the other team have the same gamer tag and play the same heros

[@smilesfoutch6996]

I was playing with a DVA who would dive the enemy team alone while i was zen, he then complained "i don't have any healers y'all need to dive with me" so i switched to kiri and followed them around just heal botting, he would still dive in WITH JUST ME and then when he died he would complain about "not enough heals" But when i tell him im dying trying to keep his dumbass alive he immediately responds with "avoid their bullets dumbass" That's the fastest I've ever ignored a tank the rest of the game. How the hell do you blame your teammates when you dive alone? And then when you have SOMEONE DIVING WITH YOU IT'S STILL SOMEHOW MY FAULT?????? I absolutely hate tanks because their ego gets the best of them.

[@rustyrules1212]

As a doom player, I’d prefer something other than Moira just because of the range, but I usually just deal with it and end up swapping after they counter swap anyway 😂

[@savage3PC]

moira sucks so bad with doomfist she has to be right infront of him to heal him lol

[@sethescope]

​@@savage3PC do you know how long Moira's spray actually is? the answer might surprise you

[@savage3PC]

@@sethescope not consistent or long enough to keep up with doomfists risky playstyle

[@sethescope]

@@savage3PC I feel like people don't understand that when you run Moira Doom, Moira isn't supposed to always be right up Doom's butt. I don't even know where to really begin explaining because I don't understand the root source of this strange assumption when none of the supports should be constantly with the Doom. do you think a Doom should always just be in the enemy backline or something so "obviously" the only supports that "should" be played with Doom are those with significant range? it's very simple. when doom is going for a soft dive/engagement, Moira plays back/soft engages too. typically you will not use fade to go in at this point. doom disengages for healing and/or to peel, i.e., doom comes back into Moira's range. when doom hard engages, Moira hard engages too. at this point, you typically burn fade to go in because a hard engage is when you commit resources and go all in, and either you win the fight or you die together. at this point, Moira will be with the doom and will keep the doom within their range to heal them with their primary fire. I hope this helps explain. it seems very simple to me, but maybe that's just because I'm a support main so it's more intuitive to me just like how DPS stuff is typically less intuitive to me but makes more sense to dps mains.

[@savage3PC]

@@sethescope zzz kiriko and ana much better

[@jonathansutherland5242]

Moira heal is better if you tap it instead of hold it down. It has some heal over time so you dont have to spray constantly.

[@nynsho2326]

I'm gonna take a page out of Overwatch Anonymous and say "No amount of healing can heal your positioning".

[@juviplays........3669]

This is just me but I’m a support main and when I play tank, only in a 5-stack with friends as JQ and Zarya. I think that being a support main is extremely helpful if you’re playing tank.

[@michaelcidboy6787]

This is plat ?? Oh my god I would've guessed silver

[@dash4800]

i see games just like this in diamond.

[@casualhandz1922]

I just made it to plat 5 on support and i have to CONSTANTLY tell ppl " I CAN NOT HEAL YOU THROUGH WALLS. STAY WHERE I CAN SEE YOU. IF YOU GO BEYOND THE SCOPE OF MY HEALS, I WILL FOCUS ON DAMAGE AND NOT HEAL YOU."

[@carlyhelenaxx]

if anyone wonders what it is like to solo queue support, this video is a perfect example. i only once in a while get a tank that doesn't act like this. lmao

[@Mutegnu3]

Any doom mains in the chat rn? I play support and got a question, what support do yall like? I play mercy and it works okay but i feel i could support y'all better, any tips would help:) Edit: Y'all are so sweet thanks for the help:D

[@Bruhbruh01938]

Ana zen kiriko and brig (sometimes)

[@Bruhbruh01938]

Mercy isn’t ideal especially since you should be focusing more on dps with mercy, not pocketing the tank with heals

[@ILoveLuvia]

Kiri is Always a safe pick, but it really depends on what the other support is playing, I've done decently well with bap zen, bap Lucio etc... .

[@noisetank13]

Lifeweaver with pull ;)

[@dash4800]

there is no answer. They just expect to be perma healed no matter what. No matter what you pick they will dive 1v5 and die and blame you.

[@AaronWOfficial]

I saw a guy called "DontPlayAna" in my team once, and decided to play Ana just to see if I could change his mind. He literally stands far back in the open behind my sightline, so I can't see if he is low. And so far away he has damage fall-off and is less effective, not even playing near natural cover. And then of course he dies without ever asking for healing (we were all in voice chat), and decides to go on a big rant about how he loses every time someone plays Ana. My whole team laughed at him, told him he should try something other than widow because he clearly can't play widow. And we won, and I never switched from Ana all game XD. The next game I saw him on the other team so I played Ana again and outsniped him all game on Ana. Won that game as well LMAO Ignore these clowns, mute them and focus on yourself. They will always be in low elo so the sooner you get out the sooner you can stop dealing with them. Everyone has that 1 hero they don't like, but the small brain players never give others a chance to see can they actually make the hero work in the match-up. A lot of people don't like ball, but a good ball player can actually single handedly carry a game.

[@kossettereaditte7552]

I feel like alot of silver, bronze and QP dooms tend to try and play doom like reinhardt and jump in block then just die. Even gold 2 to plat do that (havent gotten higher than that just yet) typically i just use them as a distraction and start dpsing myself or enable my dps if theyre good. Enough dps can make up up for a feeding tank. Usually if the tank is toxic theyll claim they carried but who cares you get the W and technically their constant deaths did act as a distraction. Works real well on Moira.

[@pinoyjona]

Reminded me on Oasis during comp, our Roadhod telling me to pick Mercy, a hero I’m not as good at, especially when the enemy team keeps going for me, and the Tank really wanted me to pocket them than me trying to help the others. We lost miserably and I got too much deaths in round 1. So I swap to Moira, who became a main of mine recently, and Roadhog kept telling me to switch back, even all caps. We did slightly better but still lost and the Roadhog typed that I got the ego. All I typed was “ironic.” At least I tried to adapt, my tank thinking all he needs just the one Mercy to live forever or something 😅

[@nostalgjc1]

beefpounder3 💀

[@SprinklyCatandDeemo]

I hope the tank sees this video

[@kia2957]

I got that exact tank on my team yesterday and they kept playing this way

[@booooocaj]

rule number one of overwatch: it is always my teams fault rule two: insta-lock and never switch character

[@cthulhubrain574]

i had a rein pull this on me once. i hopped in an on-going quickplay game as support, tried several times to make it to the team as a mercy and ana, got spawncamped every single time. switched to moira for survivability, finally made it to the team and was able to do my job as the rein charged to the other side of the map away from everyone and proceeded to fall over. while in spawn waiting for the next match to begin i made the worst mistake possible and asked the rein to perhaps hold back feeding. Worst mistake. I was an idiot. Immediately i was marked as 'typical moira-main' (my main is ana/kiriko) enemy #1 who gives no heals ever, no matter what i had done, with the other support (brigitte) smugly stating THEY had no problems staying alive while pocketing the rein. honestly should have just left that game, it wasn't worth the time/energy.

[@VitoriaIam]

more moira players need to watch arx so they can learn how to get value with their orbs ngl

[@justcallmexen]

I get why not choosing Mercy at the start (low healing numbers), but I don't see how Moira "fits" that initial team comp. Both Lucio and Moira want to be close to their allies to do their jobs and here you started with two backline DPS and a dive tank. If you all could dive together it might be fine but with an objective to defend and those long sightlines, that's a tall ask. Even the tank becoming Roadhog didn't make that much easier as, while more self sufficient, it really made it harder for supports to be able to heal any given teammate at any given time. That and they were simply out of LOS for far too much. I get wanting to create space, but that was a pretty extreme example. running forward to presumably grab the mini health pack ("I need to heal myself cuz my support won't do it for me!") while Cass was ulting was just bad, if they backed up around the corner, they would have found their Moira and Bap all too eager to top them back up again from safety. Mercy on attack was fine, more self sufficient heroes (soldier's biotic field, Sombra's Sombra'ing, JQ's wounds). The tank would love the speed to rush in and wreck havok while damage boosted for more self healing, but they still went too far ahead, and they lived longer when they hung back to defend the payload. My first real thought on choices made was that I would have ulted during Mauga's cage, to heal all my allies caught in it from outside the barrier. It might not have worked, but I think Valkyrie came out too late when too many were dead.

[@markh.9822]

It's simple. People with inflated egos have to always blame other people or else it scuffs their ego. It's like clockwork every time.

[@Chickenchu]

Where is chat? Where has chat gone?

[@Sukiaeo]

Question as someone whos lower rank that plays moria, my play would have been damage orb and then ult at 6:03, would that been viable?

[@panic4theblackparade951]

The amount of times I’m told to switch off my current hero and go mercy just bc the team is getting rolled despite my heals and need to rely on a res is insane. I have to explain that if I go mercy we will almost definitely lose as I can’t play her but ppl just don’t get that and insist on “go this character”. Like ???????😅

[@cardtower]

had a bronze comp game last night where our winston swapped to doom after being told he was feeding. something about doom players, i swear ...

[@theviewer9363]

Thats what sucks is when your a good healer and you watch your tank feed over and over while they yell at you, thats why in im stuck in silver for heals i swear. Or somehow is two good dps same rank against two bad dps same rank. And not going to lie and the end of my sessions i start feeding because im tired after work, but still

[@C0rran05]

Edit:after another comment I reviewed the final death again and my first paragraph below defending their action is incorrect. They were just an idiot that ran through the lava. Existing paragraph is being left in tact so that the reply calling that out still has the context. To be fair, the final death from the JQ, they had limited choices on pushing forward or pulling back because of the lava. They were probably about to die no matter what. That said, amazingly poor game sense from the tank. I know I do this sometimes, but as soon as I die and realize I screwed up, I call myself out. That mostly happens when I think I've got someone pushing with me or I misread how many enemies I'm pushing into. Sometimes I feel like pushing up was what should have happened and I get frustrated that my team pulled back instead, but even then you need to be aware of what you're team is doing. If you are constantly over extending on only complaining the whole game about your teammates, thats completely on you 100%. At the very least you need to calm down and try to communicate that you want to push more because that's how you play a team came, not by yelling blame at them. Communicate and adjust as a team. Not a 'pushing to hard' issue, but the other week I was playing and not doing well on tank. I think I called it right that the Zarya getting double pocketed was a problem, but I never tried to say I was playing well and I never blamed anyone on my team for use not winning fights. In fact, I called out several good plays my teamates made. But on my comment about the double pocket, my team's solution was double pocket me to prove a point that I was a sucky tank, but what I MEANT when I said that is a double pocket Zarya is hard to kill, kill the supports first. After that didn't pan out (as we all expected, due to miscommunication on how to handle it) our Moira then said they were just going to go DPS, and I encouraged that because that's honestly what was going to work better for how well I wasn't playing. And the other guy flaming me was wasting time checking my profile mid fight to flame my time on my tank main vs other tanks. Yeah, these guys being a bit toxic has been living in my head rent free and I keep replaying all the other options I had that could have worked better than what I did (because again, I agree I wasn't playing well in that match), but I appreciate that at least parts of it were communicating on how to play around each other better. THAT part was good, and when THAT was the focus of the chat, we played better as a team and actually made progress vs being busy with blaming/flaming/toxic behavior. Whenever chat is being toxic, the whole team suffers.

[@kiayaoi]

no way!! she literally wasn't even in the lava until she pushed!

[@C0rran05]

@kiayaoi i'll check again but I could have sworn she got cut off real quick. Maybe I misviewed it, though. Edit: yep, I totally missaw that one. Literally ran THROUGH the existing lava placement like an idiot. Thanks for pointing that to me.

[@rydellthomas1183]

Personally I feel like doom players get their egos hurt when they getting diffed by another doom. then start flaming everyone for their own mistakes except their theirs

[@damon6086]

I haven't seen the video yet, but I already know the Doom is going play bad which is why he's complaining. He probably punched in, 1v5'd the enemy team and died in more than one fight. It's funny that a Doom is complaining because most Doom mains can't play Doom. Edit: Before he switched to Hog, I can say I was almost right. Still right about him playing bad and mostly going in alone.

[@sethescope]

this reminds me of my favorite thing about good doom players. when they accidentally go in 1v5 -- because it happens sometimes to the best of us, we all goof up sometimes -- and promptly fall over, they use the "I'm sorry" voice line immediately LMAO good doom players know when they did an oopsie, and it's impossible to be even a little mad when you can tell they're facepalming at themselves

[@damon6086]

@@sethescope True, I will never flame anyone who owns up to their mistakes.

[@sethescope]

@@damon6086 I personally feel like no one should flame anyone and that flaming someone who flames first doesn't achieve anything (if the goal is to push back and defend whoever is being flamed, there are better ways to do that), BUT I see your point and I do appreciate it. and it's always very sweet when I use the I'm sorry line because I did an oopsie and someone else says no and then I'm sorry lol 😅 like, I appreciate the thought but I know what I did

[@Wgar1]

Honestly the only time i really ask for supports to swap is to g3t an Ana for a Hog/Mauga that is nominating

[@tommymetzger1136]

Im trying to be a better person , and its very hard

[@linkous101]

Doom mains are always obnoxious and never switch off

[@Lordzarvea]

Videos like this make me understand most doom players are terrible

[@shimasura]

yeah most are terrible, which sucks cause he’s such a good tank 😭

[@Equitine]

i hate being told to swap. so i have an entertaining way to deal with it. if i tell them me swapping isnt gonna end well and they tell me again i will swap to someone im worse at and i will be even worse when it comes to assisting the one who said something. i dont care if i win or loose 1 loss does not bother me in the slightest but the raging person i bet it bothers him.

[@Princ3ssCai]

It was literally the tanks fault 😂

[@monkietoes]

the chat was gone T.T

[@savage3PC]

As much as i hate feeding dooms it’s best to at least play heroes that work with doom, moira can’t keep up with doom so running; kiriko or ana and sometimes lw is the better option and if you wanna flex support then zen,lucio, and brig are good

[@femto246]

ALRIGHT SO

[@D_Jilla]

This game was a doom diff tbh

[@issyaboyr873]

the moira saying the doomfists death was totally their fault at the beginning, I hope they were being sarcastic cuz it was not the moiras fault doom died

[@immadrachett3290]

One minute into the video and I'ma just say it now, I'm 90% sure whatever happens its the Doom's fault. Calling it now

[@Zephyrian]

Doom mains don't get to talk. Literally, 10% of them are good, and the rest are throwing 24/7.

[@livefreeprintguns]

*_ALLLRRIIIGGGHHHHTTTTTT!_*

[@dash4800]

As a moira player i definitely see things he could do better but this was just standard trash doom play. Its hard to do anything when you got a feeding tank. And yeah, tanks always blame moira. You can literally be hard carrying a game and have 2x the healing and dmg of anyone in the game and they will still say "trash dps moira" and stuff like that. It doesnt matter at all whats actually happening in the game. Also, I have never once seen a doomfist who didn't blame everyone else for their own bad play. Dooms are the worst.

[@Iscoileachme]

Maybe I'm wrong but I think Moira is actually very good for dive tanks as she can help the tank finish the squishies and fade if it doesn't work. As a Winston main since recently, that's what I often lack, just some extra damage to the targets that run away at the last moment with 10 hp and basically make me feed. Skill issue on my part, ofc, I'm a relatively new and bad player. But just in case. A doom main could give this a thought too. Btw I main Moira on support and that's what I often excel at, finishing someone off. Kind of cheesy, I know, but it always works lol.

[@dash4800]

@Iscoileachme moira is good with any comp if the tank plays right. But the big problem with dive tanks is they like to go in 1v5 and expect you to use all your cooldowns to save them. Then once you do they jump away and leave you to die. My rule is if the tank is making good plays I support them and if they are feeding I just go dps mode. And moira will always be blamed for everything anyway so if they flame you who cares.

[@matejatezak9292]

I just cant believe this tank is plat. Like, how did they win the games to get to plat??

[@vixenfireivy]

i never ever understood why people play dive on defense especially maps with long sights and when enemy with spawn advantage. is defense not about sustain and farming. I am missing something or is it valid to ask my tank to switch off a dive hero on defense.

[@Gordon_Blub]

You were not first pal.

[@j.t.footman4425]

This tank is in Plat?!?!?!! Wtf?!??

[@NightBlade117]

This was low Diamond Emongg said? And im looking at a Doomfist on both teams on first round? Console is something else bro.

[@ItsChris2k]

Damn yall just flaming doom mains in these comments😭 lowkey thats why i only play with him in qp. The only place where i can legitimately have fun with him

[@Lilian040210]

Overwatch has such a complex gameplay, but boy does it have the dumbest players

[@danielw8776]

I don't blame him. Moira is such a nothingburger of a character. She's just a stat padder and people that play her just go "STATS! I CARRIED!" all the time. Seeing her on my team just makes me instantly a little bit frustrated because almost every other support brings more to the table.

[@moonyeast]

id play lw w doom if ur a moicyplayer

[@Aon_Duine]

Why has torb been played so much lately?? I find it so boring fighting with and against him. Kinda has been ruining the game for me

[@sektaszamana6359]

QR6DTM pls can anyone watch this and tell me what can i improve ( 42/1 game df otp still lost)

[@patrickyule7011]

This reeks of a silver doom who made plat via placements lol

[@Mossykitsune]

Meow

[@nathanferron1613]

It's Especially, not eXpescially.... You say it really often too. Love the content but it's like nails on the chalkboard every time. But hey maybe it's intentional cause it got me to comment😅

[@the-real-Lechii]

Yeah because i was first