Just a FYI - I made a mistake, the bike IS included with the water bottle (and strap for the bottle also), I incorrectly stated that you have to purchase it as an extra. Sorry to provide incorrect info
@ryborg1234563 ай бұрын
I'm glad the bike is included in the cost.
@ste.palmer853 ай бұрын
Do you still have to pay for delivery box aswell? Looked af getting a canyon last year and I thought it was madness they were charging £18 for the delivery box
@z1onmedia475Ай бұрын
They should also give you a free insert for the bottle
@E-MTBsАй бұрын
That’s just oppositional without thought. I own this bike and buying the bottle is no big deal when up look at the spec and the fact that this is a downhill, bike park bike that has a category 5e bombproof frame. I don’t think that was explained enough in the review. It’s not a trail bike, and being a gravity bike the water bottle won’t fly out.
@justmeridingmybike3 ай бұрын
I bought this bike (the Ken Roczen version) and i really like it. That water bottle is just mint. I updated the Zeb fork to 190mm for a tat more ground clearance on the BB and put some 145mm PINND cranks arms on it to prevent pedal strikes. Now this is the bike that can do it all. From 80+km XC rides to Trail/Enduro and Bikepark laps. I also own a Commencal Power Meta Trail, but i hardly touch it anymore. Rock solid bike! 💯❤
@-zerocool-3 ай бұрын
The water bottle is the only thing turning me off buying this beast, if only someone made some clean shroud that covers it or maybe a shroud with integrated tool kit or something.
@maciejsarnik32513 ай бұрын
Same for me, its ridiculous! Weight distribution, noise, look. Never would buy this thing, maybe some dentists would...
@TysyTube3 ай бұрын
same, i dislike the bike before of this🙈
@dereksouza74093 ай бұрын
I have that bike, it ripppps. Turns on a dime. I don't have the water bottle. I also have another e bike that is twice the price. The Canyon is just as good
@steve42973 ай бұрын
Remove the water bottle and cover with contact/car wrap, it’s that simple.
@CarkeekW3 ай бұрын
Easy enough to make a cover , they will turn up after market
@robchurches5983 ай бұрын
I ordered an e-bike from Canyon. Bike turned up with no keys. I asked for the keys to be sent out but they said it was not possible and the bike had to be returned with no date on a replacement bike. They then took a couple of months to return my money. Customer service was terrible. I would never order from them again.
@Megabear903 ай бұрын
There are so many stories like this that keep me from buying their bikes. A normal bike with fewer parts, like a gravel bike I could get behind, I don't need much support and can do everything myself. But an e-bike? No way.
@beerenmusli82203 ай бұрын
Damn- They should instead have sent you a new Lock and Keys together with a paper that they will pay for the installation for the new lock
@E-MTBsАй бұрын
This bike does not have or need keys so what is your point.
@beerenmusli8220Ай бұрын
@@E-MTBs But other E-Bikes from Canyon do.
@dereksouza74093 ай бұрын
I have this Canyon and another e bikes. My other bike was twice as much as the canyon. My Canyon is 51lbs with the 700 series battery. I made several modifications, rims,155 cranks, and thin pedals to help with strikes. It turns on a dime. Hate on the bike because of the water bottle set up, but give it a ride if you can.
@dodgymtbknee3 ай бұрын
everyone hating on the water bottle and not the fact someone is riding an emtb 🤣 makes a change. the bike is awesome i love my torque:ON CF9! the water bottle is a bonus in my opinion. drill through the sides of the bottle mount and you can add a strap if choose to, have tools/innertubes/spares instead as there is quite a large gap to fill👌
@venivelovici3 ай бұрын
Good point. All this hubbub about the water bottle and no one’s acknowledging that you DON’T HAVE TO USE IT. 😹
@durothean3 ай бұрын
just to give everyone who doesn't ride an Ebike a good idea of the real world range on a 900wh battery on the canyon spectral ON with the new ep801....i'm about 225 with all my bike gear on, i did just under 21 miles, 3310 elevation gain, and had about 20% left on the battery. I ran it in boost on the service roads and trail on the descents. I find i like eco or trail even on the downs. sometimes you run into flatter connecting trails before going back down, or even small punchy climbs, and having the motor on, just makes it that much faster and easier.
@PedroMartinsEnduro3 ай бұрын
Now the EP801 has overrun with the latest update!
@klassyken3 ай бұрын
Defiantly do the Shimano 801vs Bosche please Rob!!!!
@Stockfish15113 ай бұрын
Have ridden both. Bosch is better and the new integrated system makes it very convenient.
@deanrwilson2 ай бұрын
The 801 is no match for the Bosch and that's why they already have a newer motor coming than the 801. Sadly they are all incompatible with each other as you'd expect. The newer motor coming apparently has more over run etc.
@martinsalharriso2cou3 ай бұрын
Love the bike - HATE the water bottle. Adding weight that high up is insane. Plus I carry 2 litres on a long ride out (in a back pack bladder) so I would have to carry a stupid empty bottle just to fill an ugly hole. Sole reason I wouldn't consider buying the bike.
@SDK2006b3 ай бұрын
The bike weighs 26 KG, a 600g water bottle (2.3% of the total weight) makes practically zero difference. I rode one at a Canyon Demo day last year (Windhall) and it was absolutely awesome. This thing would eat the Mega Avalanche for breakfast !
@simony28013 ай бұрын
The bottle is a terrible idea, means they have to mount the display back on the handlebars, on the cross tube is the best place for the display.
@TheDamnhook3 ай бұрын
Crazy engineering indeed. Wouldn’t ever want to look at this thing again.
@ExhumedToConsume3 ай бұрын
God damn stealth bomber of a mountain bike lol
@martinsalharriso2cou3 ай бұрын
Also - seams really close now to the Strive-On - interested to hear how you think it differs..?
@E-MTBsАй бұрын
I own this bike and nice review. The motor is less important than what this bike is designed for which is gravity, bike park, and downhill. I ride downhill a lot and never hit the bottom bracket and for jumps the lower BB height makes this bike one of the best jumpers on the market, so raising the BB would ruin the bikes intended use. I think you could’ve explained more on what the bikes purpose is vs talking about the motor. People that buy a bike just for the motor really aren’t looking at the whole picture because all the motors are pretty good out there and you need to ask yourself does the frame / spec if the bike fit your needs and your riding style. This bike fits mine needs perfectly because I like gravity flow trails downhill. It will do technical climbs just fine, but that is not its intended use. you take the fire road up or the easy trail and then you bomb down with confidence due to that low center of gravity.
@venivelovici3 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic. Don’t care about the water bottle, it’s the stem/headset cable routing that sucks. Though I’d still consider this. I have a lot of vert out my back door.
@netposerx3 ай бұрын
Not a good idea to require a proprietary water bottle. Would have been better to allow for standard water bottles.
@jonswain45393 ай бұрын
Hey rob, if you see this- have you any thoughts on the new orange patriot mx ls? I don’t see many if any reviews for such a killer e-bike. love your content mate, all the best ❤
@mattspen3 ай бұрын
I don’t mind the water bottle. I’d rather have it than nothing. It wouldn’t stop me buying the bike. But it would worry me about resale if the bottle head wore out and couldn’t be replaced, I would rather see the frame curve out more for a standard bottle.
@DAZ19253 ай бұрын
I used to shift using my finger but changed to just using my thumb as that way I'm always covering my front brake.
@TheBarnylondon3 ай бұрын
Another cracking review ….. BUT you did say “massive shaft”😂
@ViceVersaMusik13 ай бұрын
I want this bike SO BAD!
@csread3 ай бұрын
I have the Torque size XL non-ebike, also 6'4, and at Whistler bike park I notice a weird balance too, like I'm leaning on the front to the extent that the back wheel gets loose. This isn't a problem I have on my Spectral size L.
@johngreason99643 ай бұрын
Cool bike, and I actually like the water bottle. But matched against other bikes, such as Haibike Nduro, Scott Ransom Eride, and dare, I say dengfu E82, this bike just doesn't sell me. Personally. The Canyon doesn't exactly capture what LT emtbs are about. The Canyon seems built heavily specifically for DH/park.
@Admiralwip3 ай бұрын
hmm not sure about the water bottle, i hate plastic water bottles they give the plasticy taste to the water. If there would be a possibilty to mount a range extender battery instead that would work for me.
@jonh47643 ай бұрын
Космический аппарат... 😎🔥🔥🔥👍
@ShredQuest3 ай бұрын
They really polarized their customer base with a frame designed around a non standard water bottle. Ride without it and the ugly, empty compartment is staring you in your face the whole ride. Ride with it empty and it’s probably rattling the whole time. Some folks prefer to have the weight on their bodies rather than the bike. As other commenters have pointed, it’s the main reason I won’t consider buying this And it’s just plain ugly. The water bottle is the cyber truck of water bottles 😂
@rowanwilliams74413 ай бұрын
Wow ur assuming it rattles. Even if so, is it not a simple, elegant fix? Self adhesive rubber strip as a shimmie?
@HonguluguluАй бұрын
Is the hub from the canyon torque on cf 9 ( 2024 ) loud or silent ?
@bazzb19733 ай бұрын
How much canyon paying you to big this bike up
@Sunday_Jazz3 ай бұрын
That water bottle is awful 😅
@dougmcdougall39973 ай бұрын
The water bottle is a waste of tech ! You don't need to re- invent the wheel !
@tonyvaccarelli79503 ай бұрын
looking into getting the Strive ON UNDERDOG , thinknibjust might do it ,it has the bosch
@jerryofthebikes3 ай бұрын
shimano should start making shorter crank arms..
@snowboarder7532 ай бұрын
Personally I don’t like the water bottle rest looks ok though
@bigsmoke85092 ай бұрын
Bro $9000
@mastitimewithaar59063 ай бұрын
Where we can parches this cycle
@topheavy76163 ай бұрын
Triangle bottles are the future. I’ve been saying this for years.
@mtbmagal3 ай бұрын
🤣
@Macc13 ай бұрын
BSA Bantam rules U.K...!
@paal68463 ай бұрын
100% this would sell a lot better without the water bottle integration.
@RobRidesEMTB3 ай бұрын
I like it!
@Cartsp703 ай бұрын
Given the choice id rather have 1 Orbea Wild than 10 of these !
@onetime2423 ай бұрын
The motor and bottle are a deal breaker. Bosch or Pinion MGU and belt drive would be great, and get rid of the bottle. I wear a pack and would never use that bottle. It’s too much weight up high and in front.
@ADVtheMISSIONARY3 ай бұрын
they could easily raised the Top Tube given the length of the seat mast,then a standard bottle would have fitted in the frame, the bottle they have is ugly and an extra cost. headset routing looks neat but is hell to live with. Yeah Nah pass.....
@deanrwilson2 ай бұрын
The frame design simply doesn't have the space for a normal water bottle so let's move on from the proprietary bottle LOL. Never heard water bottle a thousand times before FFS
@thedirtyPIE3 ай бұрын
That water bottle makes it a big no from my dog. Functionally I don’t love it, I know the sloshing would annoy the F out of me, and aesthetically it looks awful.
@balbalbalfer92293 ай бұрын
£6999 ish, i checked the website💀
@spawnrcandbikes2 ай бұрын
its $4500 usd on usa site
@arturasker3 ай бұрын
disaster 😂
@maticmcweedman159Ай бұрын
This has to be most ovrerpriced piece of tech ONLY FOR RICH PEOPLE
@Firikka2 ай бұрын
That's gotta be the dumbest place for the battery. You have to turn the f-ing bike upside down?! Yeah, it's better than fully integrated battery which isn't replaceable, but every other solution is way better that I have seen. And you need the battery to be easily removable if you need to store your bicycle outside in the cold/winter period as temps below 5C are bad for the battery (easily happens during the night near or after the winter).
@BH-cy9tb3 ай бұрын
I don’t like the shimano motor the water bottle is not intergrated very well and plenty of nicer bikes out there. I would not waste my money also bike is U.G.L.Y. Rob you make great videos but this bike is a no go .
@gryphon1six8013 ай бұрын
Omg this water bottle stuff 🤦♂️. Who are these people so concerned about their damn water bottle.. any serious MTBer carries a camelback.
@7PHILIPP_3 ай бұрын
This water bottle :D :D :D bike looks trash just because of that. Wouldn't buy
@abraxas4443 ай бұрын
shimano 801 no spare parts,no service
@m.y78163 ай бұрын
6000€ 😂😂😂😂😂
@spawnrcandbikes2 ай бұрын
its $4500 usd on usa site
@fleam1013 ай бұрын
Not gonna give Any bike company 10k for a derailleur. NOPE.
@ark530abe3 ай бұрын
Ep801 took a shit 1000miles 1 year of riding
@matthewxxxxiv3 ай бұрын
Boa bike 😊😊😊
@eunos18003 ай бұрын
"Could probably ride all day on Turbo, haven't tested it yet" what's the point of a 15min vid then?
@galgtr3 ай бұрын
Why not bosch motor? All shimano motors are shit. Ha HaHa😂 rob i was buying the trek rail 9.8 xt 2022 becuse of you. There are not copetitors for this bike and motor. I use to have many problems with this bike, untill i start working and fixing them by m y self. Now its riding flowless. I just dont understand people who buy all the wanabe E biks.🎉❤😂
@censorshipBS3 ай бұрын
Bottle is £15 bike is 10k 😂
@groMMit19813 ай бұрын
From £5,599? i'll get a Triumph or Royal Enfield motorbike instead
@robertbransby3 ай бұрын
Is that water sloshing about or just the fox float X2 😂
@greggory4483 ай бұрын
Fox shock from leftover old stock...it leaks automatically 😅
@Evo8363 ай бұрын
@@greggory448 Seal heads have all been changed to the latest one as I haven't had a problem since on my 2023 X2 and cures aeration as that was my main problem with the 2023.
@robertbransby3 ай бұрын
@@Evo836 time will tell I guess
@BeniKenesei3 ай бұрын
@@Evo836 Doesn't matter. I've got a 2024 replacement, it lasted an amazing 2 weeks🤓
@gvnthomas3 ай бұрын
When paying this much for a bike and they then expect me to pay extra for the novelty water bottle to go with said bike, it would be enough to think screw you I'll spend my money elsewhere.
@Silverbeardedsurfer3 ай бұрын
Totally.
@canieto13 ай бұрын
This is one of the highest spec value bikes out there. huge Performance to price ratio. The bottle isn’t that much. I don’t see how this is a big deal.
@Silverbeardedsurfer3 ай бұрын
@@canieto1 Precisely because the bottle doesn't cost much. Frame is fugly without it too.
@strangehighways33 ай бұрын
I bitched about it and they sent me a free one
@Gmh64773 ай бұрын
And you won’t get as good spec “elsewhere” for the same money. Spend £1000 more so you don’t have to buy a £15 water bottle 😂 great thinking that.
@jimhofoss99823 ай бұрын
instead of improving components, Canyon opted for gimmicks.
@michaelolson3616Күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure there isn't another ebike out there that could compete with the torque:on 8s components for the price. Maybe the YT Decoy, but I'd love to hear what bike you consider better
@Billy-cs4cc3 ай бұрын
Quit crying over a bottle. ( babies)
@jpettigrew17733 ай бұрын
This is a great bike. I have one myself. Excellent review Rob, you touch on the points that I have also experienced. I changed the saddle and replaced the pedal arms with Pinnd shorter pedal arms. It is now an awesome piece of kit I know the water bottle is a bit marmite but it works really well 👍
@strangehighways33 ай бұрын
I bought the 5dev 155mm cranks, it changes the game. Stock cranks i was smashing all the time.
@dereksouza74093 ай бұрын
I just use a camel pack.
@adammccarthy21573 ай бұрын
500 miles on mine best bike I’ve had
@trailpimp63693 ай бұрын
I love mine. I have this same exact bike and it is great from XC to bike park. I am a season pass hold at a ski lift bike park and this rides like a DH bike. This is like a mini YT Tues and the rear end looks like it too. $4800 US no tax no shipping for Black Friday sale
@YongPark-g3h3 ай бұрын
That water bottle design is just unacceptable......we all have different opinions on things but that design is beyond ugly. It's like someone trying really hard to earn worst looking bike award.
@iannorris88913 ай бұрын
Bet that water bottle rattles like crazy after a years use !
@TheJubeiam3 ай бұрын
After 2.5k km it does hold like new
@iannorris88913 ай бұрын
@@TheJubeiam good to hear, not like a modern car then 🙂 !
@ronlind17573 ай бұрын
Super cool bike and tech... except that water bottle unfortunately is a miss. Try replacing it in a few years when not available, top weight, and noisy.
@jokermtb3 ай бұрын
3d print some beer holder for apres bike fun
@tomcagle53243 ай бұрын
If only there was someway to access water without a bottle from the cage? Maybe something that goes on the back or even hip...and then has like a hose to use like a straw? Naaaah, that's crazy thinking. Better to over engineer a cutout space in the frame with a fancy bottle at the worst spot for CG high and forward and add another 600 g....genius!😉🍻 Otherwise, looks good, long travel and big battery!👌
@M2G873 ай бұрын
Water bottle looks ugly housed and terrible without, spoilt the look of the bike
@klaymoon13 ай бұрын
This bike with Pinion integrated motor/gear will be the future!
@euanbegbie3 ай бұрын
The bottle looks ridiculous, one of the reasons i didn't buy the bike.
@burgieee1233 ай бұрын
Frames are made from cheese terrible quality
@TheHaba63 ай бұрын
No belt driven, no integrated gearbox, not intrested...
@yoei26833 ай бұрын
Same lol that tech is taking over the market it's just leaps above in durability!
@CordlezToaster3 ай бұрын
Canyon warranty is a hard pass for me.
@TravisN3 ай бұрын
strive vs torque on, 801 vs CX coming soon? Also, I just saw a video from another channel that compared the over-run of the two (only in turbo on the 801), and lots of comments today saying shimano just released an app update that allows tuning the over-run. EDIT.. your vid also just dropped: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXObhnSEr996bck I would love to see more info and comparison; I'm a current analog strive owner and looking to go electric this year. Thanks!
@spawnrcandbikes2 ай бұрын
they say both are similar power except 801 cadence is more reactive to your pedal style whatever that means,,,,i have a cannondale with bosch cx motor and turbo mode it nice...powers up hills no problem...the only issue is my bike is heavy 57lb...im looking to buy lighter ebike 40lbish with same power...maybe neuron...or cannondale Sl.....
@antoniolatorre60473 ай бұрын
Water bottle raising the center of gravity up? No thanks
@SFlorianSabo3 ай бұрын
Cool cool, to bad it rattles.
@th4tjosh3 ай бұрын
Can we get a “battery” word counter 😂😂
@brendan13 ай бұрын
Not a fan of that bottle or the space for it in the top tube. Much prefer being able to use a regular bottle and store it further down the bike on the down tube, like on my Orbea Wild. Perfectly engineered.
@tomislavpurgaric7383 ай бұрын
that water bottle just kill the bike
@duffyrides3 ай бұрын
To each their own. And while I kinda like this bike, I noticed from many of your videos that you and I definitely have different preferences in what makes a good e-bike. I’m not a fan of huge burly tanks for bikes. Much prefer the lightweight SL versions. I’ve noticed you really like the powerful and burly bruisers with as much power as possible. I also dislike the overrun that you say you like ! Definitely want my bikes to feel like regular bikes as much as possible. Light , playful and poppy. For everything else I’ll ride a motocross bike, and I think a lot of moto guys might agree. We already have motocross bikes so for us we want a bicycle to be a bicycle. I think the Orbea Wild strikes a good balance of power and nimbleness (for a full power bike ). But again. To each their own !
@Secular_Racist3 ай бұрын
I have e bike which is lile 400$.gives a 25miles range,goes 20 miles/h...
@elonmusk93022 ай бұрын
Link to purchase
@adventurecycling30073 ай бұрын
oh my dream bike 😍😍
@yourAVGconsumer3 ай бұрын
Lmao. 7000£. For a ebike. Thaats almost $9000. I paid $8500 for my 2015 Expedition😂😂😂
@bishworai52902 сағат бұрын
I love this e bike
@dsaint943 ай бұрын
Rob, if you think that water bottle looks cool, then I suspect Canyon have "influenced" you in some way. It's the one thing that completely ruins this bike.
@Cartsp703 ай бұрын
💯! What a ridiculous design
@rowanwilliams74413 ай бұрын
Looks cool to me. You'd never know it was a water bottle if you didnt know
@UKMitchy3 ай бұрын
Competitor for the 'Ugliest bike 2024" . Proprietary water bottles lol. No good for little me at 167c (5" 6"). Can't honestly think of a positive, except maybe the motor.
@ivanclementecabrera3 ай бұрын
900wh and amazing geo, also nice build and cat 5
@UKMitchy3 ай бұрын
@ivanclementecabrera over weight and fine for bigger people. I want to ride a bike, not drive a tank.
@ivanclementecabrera3 ай бұрын
@@UKMitchy it's 24.7 with 900wh and pedals, so 23.7 with the 720...it's not heavy, it's not super light but it ain't heavy, you can drive what you want but it's not an heavy bike for what it does and have
@sebinofh43797 күн бұрын
I bought the ebike 3 weeks ago and motor rattles like crazy i hate that , paid 8k for bike and it starts rattling like chinese toy after 100km... all bolts tight..
@moonstriker73503 ай бұрын
Raving about a bottle holder hole in a very basic 2 wheeled wehicle frame (even a dirtbike is more complex) in the age of space rockets and AI... sry, but so ridiculous. The MTB crowd are bit simple, aren't they? :) I know this is an advertisment of course...
@ondrejjanoska6602 ай бұрын
This bike in 3 years with DJI motor and 1000wh battery with 20kg is going to be the best! 😂
@lacrehule846813 күн бұрын
Stupid review where the top speed and f range just you glorifying this bike
@jasonlee4267Ай бұрын
I am on the fence between this and one of the Haibike allmtn 7 upwards range, first e-bike potentially for living and travelling around the english lake district, any preferences or recommendations?
@michaelgoodwin5933 ай бұрын
That water bottle looks awful
@user-wo7rp6bc6t2 ай бұрын
Which bottle would you put on there
@donnanhuggler84512 ай бұрын
Needs to be refrigerated lol 10k USD? $8,961.00 USD to be exact
@spawnrcandbikes2 ай бұрын
thats a heavy bike.....i look forward to lighter powerful bikes like neuron and SL type bikes in 40lb+ weights
@DX-tk6fy3 ай бұрын
Looks like a great bike... but the very aspect that they've focused the whole design around, is the very thing completely putting me off...and you can't opt out of it.
@dd77624 күн бұрын
That water bottle would make such a good battery extender!
@hdys56512 ай бұрын
Ya tuhan bagus sekali sepedanya,sekalipun bekas gak apa2 yang penting punya😊