This EPIC lore is wrong! | feat. Hidden Xperia

[@Installation00]

Watch HiddenXperias Video here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4Otk5qajNuUiaM

[@sophiawittmann-b7d]

i would say to also look into halo 3 since originally halo 2 was suppose to be the end of the story, but the end was cut and put into halo 3

[@einsamerwolf3528]

Wonder if LA Woman by The Doors has anything to do with it that's where Mr MOJO Risin comes from

[@TheMartyODonnell]

I love you all. I’ve talked about Professor Moriarty and who buried Paul once before. Creators are the key.

[@kojironovach.7649]

we love you!!!!!

[@kennethcrowe1067]

Moriarty's power is a combination of his intelligence, strategic planning, and ability to manipulate those around him.

[@ReachTea]

👀

[@nicosico101]

Who buried Paul refers to Strawberry Fields? So if creators are the key, then Jim Morrison, with strawberry fields forever it's Paul McCartney and John Lennon and if we're talking professor Moriarty then Arthur Conan Doyle? Only relation I can find between these is that 3 of these are British and also 3 are musicians. Clearly I'm missing something there to link all 4 creators together.

[@deanhensley9433]

@@nicosico101 he referring to professor Brian moriarty who was a game developer who had a lecture on the “Paul is dead myth” essentially saying that people try to make order or sense out of chaos which implies that there is no actual meaning in terms of a lore implication created by the developers. And the “creator is key” part I think he is referring to each community member theorizing what these chaotic voices mean which in short these voices can mean whatever you want them to mean

[@darkspark5854]

Marty just single handily saved the halo community by giving them something to do

[@smithjack1741]

It's all it takes dude. Simple. If only 34... halo stu.. whatever they want to call themselves did that

[@woodsgump]

@@smithjack1741Tourist lol

[@derekhowe672]

@@smithjack1741I get the disdain but at least wait for halo studios to disappoint us first

[@Jayven45]

​@@derekhowe672 To be fair they already did that with how they treated the Digsite team

[@evermoorzknight3685]

What happened to the Digsite team sucked but they volunteered and got taken advantage of. Sucks that the same is happening to all the forgers. How did they not see that coming? They have been carrying Halo for free and the studio is definitely going to jump on that. Scummy as fuck and a lesson to the community that they should stop carrying them for free. Infinite all last year was carried by the forgers and I hope they don't bail them out this year too. So much passion is wasted to bail out some of the people that are in charge of the franchise that don't care about. I wonder how many game devs are going crazy over there because they can't do what they want?

[@Tsuchimursu]

Imagine the joy Marty gets to have the community finally start cracking hidden Easter eggs they left for us to think about two decades ago, the danger with missable content is that no one finds it

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

I still wonder if From has hidden content in soulsborne that people haven't found yet.

[@shadosnake]

@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu there's bits that people don't understand, but Fromsoft never really did ARGs and such, and people have had the engines cracked open for a while a lot of the hidden details are programming nuances and broken features, Illusorywall and a few creators like Zullie bring out curios like that

[@AhegaoComics]

Part of me thinks he could possibly be screwing with us.

[@MishraArtificer]

On the other hand, I find Marty leading us around by the nose instead of getting to the point to be rather insulting.

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

God these audios no matter how it's remixed sends a chill down my spine everytime

[@FireChicken747]

Imagine walking through a dark forest and that audio starts playing out of nowhere

[@heliumqueen2401]

You forgot to mention that "infected" plays during the high charity mission where Chief leaves Cortana behind, and "infected" in the game files is called "flashback" Edit: I thought about it a little more and I think the voice is the same one Cortana is referring to when she says this. "I'll do what I can to slow the launch sequence, but there's something inside the ship..a presence that's fighting back. For a covenantnant construct, it's unusually formidable." Also when the music (infected) stops playing Cortana says this " I'm running out of options, Chief. I can't stall the launch sequence much longer. "

[@kennethcrowe1067]

i noticed this a while back. the music playing during my first playthrough felt ODDLY familiar. i keep reading the halo books and all the spartan-IIs come into contact with covenant or forerunner tech and its all so ODDLY familiar. i believe halo is a documentary and 343 and MS are actively trying to bury it and change the story because it (IN DETAIL) is where our society is heading. im sure ONI sector 3 already exists. all the shit the governments do, has got to be for "the greater good" for when the public finally learns that the extraterrestrial threat is REAL and coming for us.

[@Vengong]

Omg Installation00 AND HiddenXperia!?!?

[@corpocrat7519]

My two fav Halo KZbinrs collabing what a day! Thanks

[@Tsuchimursu]

'Unhappy girl' is full of sections with reversed tracks. Maybe that's a code key?

[@killhall021]

I believe you may be right. Just like how in game theory they talk about how other people have used audio tracks that have been scrambled. But when there a code in the sense of numbers or something

[@sadlislorfanproductions9475]

What about Spectrograms? There is always a chance the voice alone might not have all the clues

[@killhall021]

@@sadlislorfanproductions9475 That's the word. I couldn't remember the name of it

[@killhall021]

@@Tsuchimursu also, another commenter mentioned earlier . Gave me an idea what if the other tracks in the game also have clues to this one voice. If it's a voice at all. Cuz I can definitely see Marty's voice in the first one but not the second one

[@IceSki117]

I love that even after a decade of not working on the Halo series, Marty is still a prominent member of our community.

[@snippysilver8357]

@@IceSki117 love it when devs actually love their games 😁

[@alemirdikson]

As much as Bungie would love for him to shove off. I feel like his love for the community is only strengthened by their spite and malice.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Marty is continuing to unite the Halo community and inspire us to study, learn, and understand art and history of our own world. We may not find the answer of who the voices are anytime soon, but that just means we'll continue to remain united in that goal for many years to come. And we have Marty to thank for setting us on this great journey and keeping us engaged every step of the way.

[@FocussedPlague]

If anything else, all the external references done in these games shows how well read and knowledgeable the people involved with creating them are. Keep up the great work as always. And Hi Marty, I know you’re lurking in here, love you!

[@stewart9293]

This is why I just can't see Halo ever really dying. The community is just too strong and too deep.

[@xXSteelCapeXx]

It's already dead. It's like the community surrounding the Iliad and the Odyssey. People will *never* quit discussing the works, but Homer is dead. People may claim relation, and create associated works, but they are ultimately not of the Odyssey, or of Homer. People will never quit talking about Halo, and there will come more works branded as "Halo," but the OG dev team is not getting back together, and the chemistry they had, and passion they put into creating H:CE - REACH will never be replicated.

[@Freelancer837]

A series being dead does not mean its community is dead

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

​@@xXSteelCapeXx The COMMUNITY is the people discussing the work, not the original author or team.

[@Tir33nts343]

@@xXSteelCapeXx homer was just the author, the story lives forever, just like halo

[@WUSLOMAT]

You can remove the background noise from the HALO sound by using the instrumental version of "Unhappy Girl" as your basis.

[@Th3_HP]

I like to think that the second voice is just Marty singing Jingle Bells and he keeps giving us false breadcrumbs because a part of him thinks it's funny to watch us go around in circles trying to solve a mystery that doesn't exist

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

or saying "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine" like in A Christmas Story

[@craftyard9217]

11:05 If u play it at 2x sounds like some words are said in reverse and some normal , the only thing i hear in the last bit is "This Day i shall not "

[@RebelSoule]

i listened to it with my eyes closed i wonder if the left and right audio files are playing opposite to each other.

[@SpartanD83]

The voice kinda sounds like Truth over the High Charity ‘PA system’ if you will

[@thecynicaloptimist1884]

I thought the same thing! It sounds exactly like Michael Wincott as Truth.

[@aeronautisch]

Makes the most sense to me. Atleast that's what it sounds like to me as well. In the developer commentary for Halo 2, Joe even said that they recorded a bunch of lines for Truth because it might come in handy. I'm paraphrasing but that's about the gist of it.

[@SpartanD83]

@@aeronautisch such a funny coincidence, let’s hope we finally get it right this time!

[@GarryB619]

So the voice is actually just the friends we made along the way…😂😂😂

[@JiamLinks-kk2mx]

Wait is that a prototype sidekick on the crate above the Project: Mjolnir helmet case?

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

That, or an M6; there appears to be another handgun of some kind directly behind 00 on his desk. Edit: Discovered I can zoom in on the video (tech is wild now). Most likely a Sidekick on the case, and that's definitely another pistol model on his desk behind him.

[@Installation00]

Classified.

[@grifnizzle7197]

@@Installation00 B Square send you some swag?

[@JiamLinks-kk2mx]

@@Installation00 I will wait to see then...

[@Goji_Bear]

I follow alot of Halo channels but you and Luc are my all time favorites. And to see an actual collab 🤩

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

In the context of Cortana being the voice, in the Joe, Marty and Jason video commentary for Halo 2 Joe says that despite all the changes to Halo 2's ending the post credits scene with Cortana and the Gravemind didn't change. In other words if it is meant to be her that aspect of the story didn't change since around the time Earth Ark and the other major cuts to the game's ending were still in development or at least before the final list of levels we got was confirmed.

[@Gabrhil]

This just gives me a knee-jerk kind of idea. What if whatever the voice is saying is just a spoiler for the end of the game? Like, Marty's just flat out telling you how it ends, and what happens to Cortana? Just a shot in the dark.

[@Freelancer837]

Yeah, this is something we know since the original Halo 2 storyboards did not give a conclusion to Cortana/High Charity/Flood plotlines. The last we saw of Cortana in the storyboards was even a fakeout death on High Charity where Chief left her behind because he thought she was destroyed on High Charity. The original Halo 3 would've maybe been more like Gears of War 3 where the secondary antagonist faction that became a bigger threat over the past two games would become basically the main threat/faction of the third game. With it being the Flood for Halo as the Lambent were for Gears of War.

[@connorharris8875]

I just find it really cool that the infected portion of the track seems to have an "infected" audio voice hidden in the track. It's like it's corrupted audio which is so cool for the infected section

[@darkseasoning9966]

I think Marty doesn't have an actual answer and is just doing all this to keep the original story of halo in our minds

[@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER]

its prophet style dialog (pretranslated) if you compare this "speech " to how the prophet of regaret sounds ( without cortana translating) you get similar sound bits. with the sound distortion and odd phrases . IDK how they did the prophet meims (or sermon) but it may give ideas on how to translate this.

[@thenerd173]

4:57 10:03 🫡 Never thought I'd be mentioned not once, but twice by such an iconic Halo KZbinr 🙏

[@austengarcia6795]

Yes, you said it perfectly. Halo used to build community. The new Halo games were made to extract money from that community.

[@NotSuperSerial]

The ending of this video is so wholesome, the music you've used too is top tier. Many would love Marty to return and put out some more bangers. One can only hope!

[@Velganice]

I like to think that Marty came in one morning after a bender and someone recorded his incoherent rambling and snuck it in the track.

[@nathanbartlett9864]

i bet its a conversation between cortana and the gravemind based the bread crumbs with the doors

[@Nick-td9vg]

Almost sounds like Cortana saying “chief, chief, where are you?” if you take the audio clip reverse it, and speed it up, around 2-3x speed.

[@grumblygames556]

dude the red suit with the ONI badge is so damn perfect for this video. You and Luke killed this collab. Bravo to you gents!

[@deathman9219]

00 and HiddenXperia collab simuldrop? We eating good tonight

[@devo1977s]

Little dude and big dude teaming up is awesome

[@aeronautisch]

Groot and Jeff type aura.

[@SirVantezofLeon]

maybe it's the ghosts of those the flood have killed, or flashbacks of chief and cortana's memories before they separated?

[@mtcoiner7994]

Super interesting. I love these Halo mysteries. I only wish I had more time to help solve them! Being a blue collar worker with lots of mouths to feed keeps me pretty busy.

[@Annoyingdog37]

The real lore was the friends we made along the way

[@ventusvindictus]

So cool to see Marty O'Donnel spreading these breadcrumbs.

[@krybow]

i always thought it was the lingering waves of when the forerunners turned to the like gelly stuff that then turned into the flood

[@payton.a.elliott]

Halo wasn't killed, it has just been missing in action.

[@tommypritchard9064]

I bet it's one of these guys with his wife talking about their grocery list

[@dallenlofgreen5331]

Considering that Halo 2 was meant to be the end of the series, and the story writers fully intended to leave Cortana with the Gravemind, I think that the extreme electronic distortion is a hint that the second voice is Cortana, especially after she's been tortured by the Gravemind. The cyclical nature of the Halo lore means that it playing repeatedly throughout the game fits this theme, first as foreshadowing, then as narration, then as a retelling.

[@phantom117b4]

I have a question for the people trying to clean up the audio of the second voice: Have any of you tried to look at it with the audio editing programs that was used for Halo 2?

[@Centurian128]

Interesting progress made. 20:25 I might suggest Marathon if you're looking for similar depth

[@leftwardglobe1643]

Marathon, Destiny, Myth. A lot of what Bungie has made has had a similar scope if not greater. They really did masterful work.

[@crusader7eth163]

The fact that tv KZbin took me to the next video without any input from me is a beauty. What a cool collab!

[@richardwright359]

Love the collaboration videos please keep doing them 💪😎👍

[@tj1166]

You are looking classy in this video my friend! I love to see you and Luke collaborating on videos! My 2 favorite halo lore KZbinrs coming together on this video is fantastic! Great work to the both of you thanks for always working hard and may you both continue to see much success!

[@Vb-379]

I used to remember a very conspiracy halo 2 video I've seen back in January of 2011. But sadly I can't find it these days. Always thought about recreating that video.

[@mjpraetorian4386]

Is it me Or is it The Flood themselves that are the 2nd Voice? First time we hear it, We're fighting the flood?

[@sirintegrafairbrookwingate4862]

At 9:15 it sounds like Cortana saying “chief”, it drops to background noise “are you there” and picks up “I need you”

[@sirintegrafairbrookwingate4862]

It’s almost like she’s a scared little girl calling for her mother, “chief!” Then it becomes softer like a whisper as though the thing she dreads is near “are you there?” Then it picks back up almost as though in desperation “I need you”

[@Freelancer.Warzone]

THESE are the things that can keep a community alive, no matter how much the other types of media is thrashed by the new owners. Marty saying "nu-uh" reinvigorated the spirit of halo fans across the globe more than any HCE remaster, UE5 news, halo leaks and.. well, whatever "Halo studios" aka 343 is doing I'm working on a personal project that is a mod of a game called Freelancer, and this video alongside Luc's really makes me wanna create an entire mythology and unfiction/ARG revolving around the mod, as a way to introduce players into the grandfather of the modern space sim genre, with out own little twist.. How I wish that decades after the release, people would still be working hard to uncover the secrets and mysteries we came up with one day

[@jordanpendleton9686]

I think the second voice is probably the gravemind speaking to cortana

[@alejandroe.zunigasanchez259]

It’s such a shame that 343 destroyed Halo and ruined all of this beautifully deep lore

[@DrunkFrodo]

I think Marty was having a bit of fun and adding in his voice singing a part of Unhappy Girl.

[@thepcgameplayer5526]

8:00 - 8:59 bro you reminded me on how CREEPY infected was and STILL is to this day, younger me never thought twice about it bc i was more focused on murdering the flood with an bloody energy sword bc it was fun at the time, but still Jesus...talk 'bout goosebumps...

[@wearsjorge55]

13:05 lol his face immediately knowing hes gonna continue bread crumbing

[@BudgiePanic]

14:11 oh yeah, that is the plight of Cortana being left behind in high charity, struggling with rampancy and the gravemind

[@Skrallizar]

Given my comment on Xperias video, I guess I'll be eating my socks.

[@WheelySeely]

"Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul" Just my thoughts and interp on what the voice could be saying

[@MishraArtificer]

Not sure if the Covenant were fluent in the Black Speech of Mordor...

[@kbkimoseley]

I love both of your channels. Ya'll do great work, and yes I am from Texas 😅

[@DragonJohn]

Has O’Donnel ever said he was a fan of Tolkien?

[@StephenAMCook]

I think he and others have stated that the Lord of the Rings was a source of inspiration for certain parts of the Bungie era Halo games.

[@laerbear6760]

​@@StephenAMCook the library...

[@Phillibetrus]

yes... In an interview on Meaning In-Between he mentions Tolkien.

[@beautydraugr]

Have y'all tried pitching it up to the tone of voice of Marty?

[@RedCrusader-ph2vk]

I got the notification for this and Xperia's video at the exact same time

[@MattWaller04]

Man I love when y'all get together!

[@spongemanicecone2736]

Peak youtube thumbnail faces right there

[@brendanweis7090]

I can only imagine the satisfaction that Marty feels for stirring the pot.

[@mr.4.898]

I bet you have already tried this but, have you tried playing those voices in reverse?

[@Installation00]

Yessir!

[@yuhboyogteddy6691]

I didnt even know there was a terminal there in that level😅 good looking out bro💯

[@stijnVDA1994]

Actually remembering halo 3 being made with the cut other half of halo 2 i can see this being a direct reference to what would have happened had halo 2 got all the content. Meaning the song was already made before the big cut-up of halo 2...

[@stijnVDA1994]

Come to think of it, this could have been set-up by bungie years ago to see how people would reconize some story beats. Thus timing tells it took to long because bungie has not done this to my knowledge again ever since, can someone check this in both destiny games?

[@blackdog6969]

Genuinely thought it was a Prophet giving a speech off in the distance based on those cleanups. Now I wonder if it's a sample of Marty doing some karaoke

[@twofish7939]

It sounds a bit like truth. I believe based on the point of the level where this track plays, it’s a hidden message from the Prophet of Truth to the Arbiter, how his actions will atone for his Sins. In fact, it sounds similar to the point of the Game in Halo 2 where the Prophet of Truth is preaching about finding the Icon before the Flood break in and Chief appears

[@Darksmirk1]

" So here is the raw audio " ..... I instantly get an ad talking about building a LinkedIn 😅 . I was confused for just a moment and then realized it was an Ad.

[@massachusettsthemercenary4963]

My theory is it’s a San shayuum talking as it sounds like their singing native language and since it’s in the part where it’s called “infected” I think it’s regret talking in his native language

[@johnmcconnell7052]

I think you and Hidden will really have your minds blown to what is all said everything in the trilogy is connected and odst was the last one at the end perhaps it might be the latchkey to the trilogy.

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

That intro gave me chills

[@christopherknutson8491]

That or maybe the prophets, maybe forerunner

[@TheGamingRaccoons]

It sounds like multiple voices almost like the voices of the victims of the flood “infection”

[@DirectalYT]

10:18 isn’t the words being played in reverse?

[@samwow24]

Meester Halo guy, that suit is dapper and dope, Thanks for all your work.

[@Mario-qo4wj]

You said it. Mr Mojo Rising is an anagram. The real name is out of order. What if the audio is out of order?

[@threaders9411]

I personally think it needs to be sped up by .15% and try to match waveform to martys vocal pattern Using AI to assist in matching waveform could be a good possibility if we can get q good audioclip of the legend himself

[@blademaster2390]

Im betting that sections of the voice have been reversed and scrambled. Not the entire thing, mind, but segments of it, like individual words or phrases. In the cleaned audio, I was very vaguely hearing actual words, or at least something resembling actual words, like “beware” and “at all” or “in all.” But at the same time, the segments between those individual vague words and phrases sound backwards and possibly even disjointed. Maybe the “unhappy girl” comment Marty made was a hint to the presence of reversed segments, and heck, maybe the name of the singer being an anagram is a hint as well, suggesting that we need to treat individual words or phrases within the audio like letters in an anagram as well. The hard bit will still be making the audio actually understandable, but maybe that might be something to look into.

[@DeltaGammaKilo]

After you clean it up enough, what you get is Rick Rolled.

[@John-oh7st]

to me it sounds more like 2 people having a conversation at 1049 it sounds like someone trying to shush someone else

[@theov3rmind]

I have a feeling that this is going to be a 23 minute video that ends in "idk..." Ain't nobody got time for that!

[@jo3y960]

Its just the Bungie team when they went to Church to record a sermon, guys. This sounds exactly like something these guys would do 😂

[@WOLFHEART-432]

I'll be honest hearing the first voice again after seeing this I think Marty did both voices

[@CrashOzzy1223]

6:28 I don’t think luke mentioned the armor as a shared idea but it definitely crossed my mind in observation. Quite majorly as well, the armor is likely to be VERY old compared to a single arbiter or general concept of thus… and supernatural idea like ghosts or spirits wasn’t quite a bungie thing to often have included I don’t think. Then again, armor talking is I guess kinda “supernatural” or whatever as well.

[@poshpierat6394]

TLDW: theres a voice that we don't know what it says

[@tkxbetrayer2405]

I love the colab. I'm sure with both of your keen minds and expert knowledge on everything Halo, you'll get to the bottom of this...eventually

[@6buscuit]

I got a question. Has anyone ran that second voice in that part of the song into a spectrogram? I I know this might be a stretch but I know minecraft there was a song that had a creepers face in it.. that said could that section of the song in halo 2 have a spectrogram reference?

[@Aloofasf]

Halo lore deep dives are such a good escape from Halo

[@thenightscythe2030]

If it isn't the Original Arbiter, after finding out the truth himself... Then it is most likely words from a Monitor that told the Prophets, and perhaps the Arbiter the Truth of what the Halo Rings are for. The first part plays during the part where we Get the Arbiters Armor, while the Infected portion happens before we end up fighting the Heretic, and we see the Monitor there.

[@jeremiahsoria938]

you guys need a podcast series or something. my favorites who are friends

[@tehno_thefallen386]

Director we have a breach in the neural physics chamber

[@austinfuller8323]

The community itself needs to take itself back in time to what was new and being introduced Lore wise in the time that it was released... Im sure there is a key to unlocking the audio sequence, a key that once found. Will probably shed the most light on its relevance and meaning... I think it greatly has something to do with Cortana and the Gravemind. Being the timeless entity who said he is the Momument to thier sins. Meaning hes a ancient foundation representing the downfall of the forerunners, and he has listened through Rock and time and metal... Now he will talk after thousands of years...

[@ivss8927]

3:23 that T bag dude😂

[@jayholm5851]

This was a great collaboration

[@danielsgames8810]

Unhappy girl song is literally the forerunners and cortanas fate

[@neukraine]

Have we considered counting syllables in the cleaned up audio?

[@Targe0]

I think the audio might be slowed down listening to those clean up attempts. Especially the last one, I think it might be clearer if the reverb is dropped and the audio is speed up.