This Exercise Causes Sciatica

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[@not-much]

This is exactly the movement I did that brought on lower back pain which lead to sciatica but I didn’t realize sciatica was caused from the lower back so now it all makes sense. Thank you.

[@highonchai568]

Can i go to the gym while having sciatica?

[@tryhardytz9248]

Same

[@kucingpundung]

Pose 1 1:40 wrong pose overview 3:00 better pose (still have some risk, but better) Pose 2 4:26 taking item from floor (barbel lift) 5:22 suggestions A to distribute to hand 6:40 suggestions B to do vertically using band (also applied the backward fav) 7:50 suggestions C & D kneeing with elbow

[@LizardMane]

wooow Im the young 22 yeard old who did the first two exercise hahaha and my back has been killing me thank you for releasing this video!!!! LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED

[@DaveLeComte]

I didn't get Sciatica but a few weeks ago I bent over to pick something up and before I made it to pick it up my back cracked very loud. I went to the floor because my back went into spasm. When I tried to move to get up it would go into spasm again every time. It was sooo painful. The spasms lasted for over 5 days. I even had to have my Wife put my socks on for a couple days after because I would go into spasm if I tried to bend over. Ice and a very old Dr Ho's unit I already had for other pain issues years ago helped ( Like a TENS = Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation.) After the spasms stopped (5 days later) my lower back was just sore all the time. I did the Stretches that I learned from Bob and Brad before I got out of bed and it helped. My Brother In-Law let me borrow his inversion table and it felt good when I was upside down. I do the exercises that Bob and Brad suggest and they work for me. I am 90% better now.

[@clararaimundi551]

So, I had signed up for HIIT classes....and we had to do something similar to that. I have to say, when young, maybe it's not a noticeable issue, but as we age, my lower back now hurts! And with quick movement(as we have to do the exercise in a short time, fast pace) you can't have a really good form either. Even if the short term benefits are great...the long term-not so much.

[@matthiasrambally1899]

I love squats and deads and I use to do it through the pain but I tell you even a normal body weight squat now flares up my sciatica so much that the pain is unbearable and burning which is why I switched to mainly machines for my Leg days mostly.... It's unfortunate but everyone is different and I totally. Agree with Bob and Brad.... You can do dumbbell rows Tho but with a supported chest pad like a Bench etc

[@sohaibaftab446]

I have sciatica and I started working out after I got the diagnosis for two slipped discs. My sciatica flares up sometimes while other times it does not bother me much. I have still not started working out my legs because I'm scared. Do you think leg days will flare up my sciatica even if I am not doing deadlifts and squats?

[@blueanon8021]

@@sohaibaftab446 just use dumbbells you don't need all that weight to be honest we not in competition just go easy on it

[@sohaibaftab446]

@@blueanon8021 I have been going easy...My upper body can take all the toll...but I don't know if it's okay to not train my lower body at all...Anyways, I am having morning flare ups only...From half an hour after I wake up, there is no pain...just movement restrictions

[@serafeiml1041]

I am in the same position. I used to work out at the gym 4 times per week. Recently, I got some sciatica pain after doing bent over row and now the pain has affected also my left leg. Stopped working out and went to the emergency where they gave me some drugs. Better now but still some pain. How did you solve your sciatica problem ?

[@JITENDRA43447]

Do some stretching and go for Ayurveda treatment having

[@foreverkarma532]

I just subscribed to your helpful channel. I was picking up trash from a park for about two consecutive days. I had to bend over to do this. I had no back problems and I ended up after doing that task with sciatic and sacro-iliac pain. Very painful condition. Great video, gentlemen

[@oussamazidani2487]

Best therapist in internet that are not afraid to provide free advices ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ Thanks a lot from Algeria 🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿 I really learned a lot from both of you And healed a lot of pain , with many of your videos

[@reynalindstrom2496]

I love you guys! This video is so pedagogisc and uncomplicated explained.My mother tell me that my pain is not the Sciatica nerv and that only old people get problems with the Sciatica. I am so grateful for your instructions,it has helped me so much! Love from Sweden!

[@sillymesilly]

Your mother is wrong

[@PecosNM]

Good video and audio! Thanks!

[@dorsvenabili5573]

Hello good audio, welcome back! Seriously, thank you for fixing the audio issues and thank you for this video 🙏🏻 You’re awesome!

[@2lynnw]

This is a similar position to when vacuuming and bending to take washing out of the washing machine, opening a low drawer etc and in my experience (and others) it can bring on a back spasm. Especially if the back is already vulnerable due to sitting for long periods.

[@pranjalkumbhare695]

Thankyou. I'm recovering from sciatica pain. I'll follow these steps in future.

[@RubinaKhan-qd7my]

Plz give me tips for recover

[@breadandcircus1]

Very helpful information. Thanks !

[@jk3266]

Thanks for forewarning.Please suggest alternate exercises for deadlift and bent-over rows.

[@tubeman1983]

Good info right here! I was having sciatica and I was wondering what might have caused it. I do that exercise all the time. Now, I know why. Thank you! :)

[@florypridgen4773]

Hello gentlemen, thank you for the good advice and exercise for the back.God bless you.

[@jazminalvarado8433]

Thank you so much for this information!

[@daryafit6628]

Thank you so much for your very valuable channel. I've been learning so much. I've had studied PT. Since I've had learned the human body anatomy I can't help to learn more about physio...I've had injured a lots so thank you for your great presentation how to fix ourself..

[@jackiebohannon322]

With all things Use Wisdom always Thank you. Both again 🌸

[@theodorecleaver]

My back would hurt after doing that exercise, so it totally makes sense what you say.

[@Bob13Blues]

You guys are great. Saved my back.

[@rowanmckinney]

Would the Lat Pull Down Machine or a Low Row on Lat Machine be ok substitute? Also thanks Bob and Brad! Please keep us up to date on healthy exercising - maybe like a "Bob & Brad React" series where you occasionally review new ones you see on tik tok or KZbin? thank you!!!

[@jaimekim1865]

Can you do si joint dysfunction - pain on lower back and si joint area with sitting lying down and walking)exersise?? I have both side..

[@breadandcircus1]

Please, Bob and Brad: can you make a video about sacro-iliac pain and inflammation ?

[@hearmymotoredheart]

Aww crap, okay, i’ve been feeling so frustrated and despairing over the point of trying to exercise when it’s only caused new unbearable pain, only to see this and learn i’ve brought this on myself! Thanks for the modification tips

[@flyercow]

Hi, thanks for the video. Could you talk about the exercise "T-bar row"? pls; The posture is very similar as well as the motion. I really like this exercise because i feel the contraction properly, but after seeing this video i'm not sure if i should keep doing it, just to prevent from any injure. Thanks in advance.

[@glasswinder]

Where can you find a table like y'all have to lay down on?

[@alfredalfredo5080]

This is exactly how I injured my lower back and if I do body pump my lower back is sore each n every time. I love body pump workouts

[@evelynfussell174]

Any help for Pudendal Neuralgia (which is severe pain in the bottom radiating up the back)beyond Lyrica? My md has raised dose from starting dose of 75mg to 150 mg twice daily which let me know the strange things going on were coming from startup & exacerbated by increased dose. I can barely walk w/o falling over, headache, nausea, awful feeling like when someone spins you around & around& my vision is like I’m underwater looking out, lasts until couple hrs before next dose. Would physical therapy help me with that?

[@ashenafimeka1206]

bent over is exactly the couse of my sciatica pain

[@isabellecloutier1799]

Thanks to you, I finally know what was the root cause of my injury (sciatica! 🙏🏻 I will never this exercise again !! Thanks for the alternatives👌

[@juliecramer7768]

Thank you!

[@Oneofthetwelve]

Hi guys. I have multiple herniated discs. I’m doing pretty well these days. But... winter is coming. Can you teach us how to shovel snow? Side casting killed me last winter.

[@EnigmaticAnomaly]

In the past couple weeks, I've abandoned all weights due to sciatic nerve pain. I've switched entirely to bodyweight exercises -- Pushups; TRX Rows, and Deep Sit Squats daily after a hike. Then light core in the afternoon before dinner. Even the lower intensity doesn't seem to help. Apparently this is a chronic condition that I'm just going to have to find some way to learn to deal with.

[@pageandink]

Oh. My. God. I was doing ‘good mornings’ (a cousins movement to what’s demonstrated here) in the gym today and my sciatica started acting up even before I left the gym. Jeez that’s one of my faves I may have to give it up.

[@sixfittyonembitties]

One legged rows with a knee on a bench shifts the pelvis to become uneven. Apparently doing rows this way puts you at risk of herniation a disc. It's better to do them with two legged.

[@vennettegloud3128]

Thanks gents. I will be sure to pay close attention, because my back started hurting just watching the wrong things! Lol!

[@andykeith2051]

Jeff Cavalier would be pleased to see the face pulls 😁

[@jeremyking4730]

Thank you 💖😇

[@BobandBrad]

Happy to help!

[@waynefoster2264]

Brad’s form for the exercise was terrible!! 😂 In all my years at the gym, I’ve never seen anyone at the gym do that exercise like that. 😂

[@aswaldcastillo2446]

Appreciate video content! Excuse me for butting in, I would love your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Parlandealey Leaving Pain Process (google it)? It is an awesome exclusive guide for learning how to cure Sciatica minus the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cooworker at very last got great results with it.

[@thomasfowler8212]

I have...

[@missibbubble]

I have too seen people at the gym who do it so wrong, it’s terrible

[@mikewarmbold3820]

Seal rows I found as a good alternative. Get some padding though or your ribs will hurt

[@jonnyboat2]

How is that wall anchor attached to the wall? I'm sure you probably used at least two long screws to attach it to the wall stud. Otherwise, I'd be quite a bit worried of the anchor becoming a damaging projectile.

[@peteyny]

He's doing barbell/ dumbell rows ( fir middle back thickness). I never had a problem with them. It's either the barbell rows or stiff legged deadlifts that's causing me pain, I think.

[@shejaljain7865]

Can we do squats, lunges, leg press, if we have sciatica?

[@gerhardbraatz6305]

They are trying to work their lats.

[@Josh-gm3km]

My body is twisted to the right and the right side of my body is stiff and dropped. Anything I do I feel like my left side of my body does most of the work and I’m always fatigue this is definitively affecting my daily life. I went to the doctors and they said I had sciatica and I’m pretty sure I don’t, any thoughts or help on what I might have or how to fix it?

[@JoseMartinez-bf3ej]

Yes!

[@NEMOsleeps24]

Okay that's fine if you guys have a job like you do but what if you have a job that requires movements like this? Isn't it better to practice that form with light weights at home?

[@upholdsanity3759]

I got very bad sciatica issues from leg presses.

[@murnoth]

I think I gave myself a double whammy. I did 10 minutes of glute bridges, then 10 minutes of straight leg deadlifts but just toe touches. On a more snappy movement, my left foot starts to get these numbing jolts, whipping down from my leg. Afterwards I learned about the piriformis and now this one

[@sgproductions805]

Is sciatica permanent once you get it? I mean after it heals it's going be more prone to injury?

[@shylinks5]

Yes, It is. It is prone to injury.

[@janekimani242]

Ooh no , I hope you are wrong

[@janekimani242]

@@christga100 thanks for sharing .

[@amandahallock9708]

What about the "drinkee bird", where it's like that bad lift, but with one leg straight out behind you? Good idea? I'm 60 y old female.

[@ahmetkeremcakn7397]

i think safest row various is seated bent over row.

[@elperronimo]

That intro

[@sdushdiu]

So why would upright rowing on say, a Concept 2 Rower not be similarly harmful?

[@lazur1]

Poor seated posture and properly extended spine, (during that rowing movement), are the exact opposites. It could actually take the strain OFF of discs being crushed while sitting. I get the warning re bad form, but leave it at that, please. _Fully_ extended, ("arched"), spine, (thus not actually bent over nearly as far), bent knees, , and a weight light enough to be lifted without jerking = no problem.

[@RichRich1955]

What do they think they're doing?

[@serafeiml1041]

I just have sciatica symptoms after performing bent over row. Any tip to overcome the pain fast?

[@bhagwatitraders1064]

Rest is the only tip

[@danialmuhamad9910]

I did bent over row and the next day here i am 3 days straight lower back pain...it was hell

[@marilynmerod553]

What do you hook that too in the home .?....I don’t have a hook in the wall !

[@marilynmerod553]

That would not be strong enough....but thanks!

[@kindynamite]

I prefer assisted, normal, and weighted pull ups but the back muscles used are a bit different. Some dangerous exercises can be avoided if there are safer alternatives. I agree! Stay safe

[@justinf3278]

Jeanette korzenko knows what's up✋ Took the words right out of my mouth... We love y'all. lol Thanks for helping me!! We're landscapers so that makes your gesture priceless and I can't say thanks enough. lol You are saving out bodies so much unnecessary misery!! ✋high fives yo! lol thanks again and God bless -kris

[@alfredalfredo5080]

I was wondering why my lower back was sore doing that

[@jeanettekorzenko4958]

I love you guys.

[@michellcupito3788]

Emptying the dishwasher is killer and laundry. Any advice?

[@arthurcantrell1954]

Forward rows are suppose to build lats! Sane muscle used when you do a pull up! A lot time people are to heavy to do pull ups so seated forward rows can build those lats.

[@ES-qt7jv]

Thank you for your wonderful advice, greetings from los angeles

[@luigirnotyourbusiness8127]

How about trying to deadlift 500 lbs?

[@p.r.s8675]

Can stiff legged deadlift also cause this ?

[@elijahestradasolar]

yes

[@zekkoursoumia2676]

Those who argue with you guys still didn't learn their lesson, well i did, no more destroying my body, and sacrificing it, thanks alot doctors

[@blueanon8021]

daaaaaamn that's the exact workout I've been doing to get my back,back right and it got worse thank you ugh I even went to the gym afterwards and made it worse I went to urgent care got a steroid shot and muscle relaxer plus steroid packet I already know I have herniated disc I don't want to stop working out I love the size I am how can I work around this

[@serafeiml1041]

I am in the same position. I used to work out at the gym 4 times per week. Recently, I got some sciatica pain after doing bent over row and now the pain has affected also my left leg. Stopped working out and went to the emergency where they gave me some drugs. Better now but still some pain. How did you solve your sciatica problem ?

[@blueanon8021]

@@serafeiml1041 i had to go a spine and back specialist they gave me a epidural steroid shot it helped i still feel my back pain every now and then but not as bad as it use to hurt also i dont dont any lower back workouts just upper back and i stopped doing legs i hate i had to stop but better safe than sorry also i use machines for back workouts and im fine also ill only use machines for legs but i wont go heavy im trying to give it time to heal

[@serafeiml1041]

@@blueanon8021 i did not get an injection but only regular anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxant drugs. i will probably do the same ie avoid legs and low back exercices. I can’t do muscu now but I hope to get back to upper body workouts in one month. Did the sciatica affect your leg as well? Or only low back pain?

[@blueanon8021]

@@serafeiml1041 yes it affected my leg real bad it was horrible even when i drive it hurted i saw your other comment about bent over rows stay away from the gym for a while trust me you dont want to become crippled or make it worse i had to get a mri done which i hated because i knew i already had a herniated disc

[@serafeiml1041]

@@blueanon8021 yeah I got the leg pain after bent over row. It now affected also my whole left leg. I also hurt when I drive, put my shoes on etc. I will take one month off to recover and only walk and swim until then.

[@luigirnotyourbusiness8127]

Tbh we work out to build huge muscles like Lou Ferrigno and Arnold

[@wassimbelguet9027]

Will have to disagree just use light weights and brace your core(glutes hams scapula quads and lower back flexed with proper breathing technique) You teach how to relieve pain not to prevent it. Point taken though. Also shouldn't be 180 degrees, should look like your mid Romanian deadlift all the variations you gave compromise different body parts such as knees neck and well back. Doing it properly and knowing your limits is the best variation. It is a functional movement that everyone should be able to perform.

[@blueanon8021]

I'm sorry the workout I was doing is similar to Romanian deadlifts but it could be in not sure I don't use my legs just back lean down then come back up I think that workout and squats got me hurting real bad

[@peggyharris3815]

I really need to know WHAT NOT TO DO! Thank you.

[@TimurtheElephantslayer]

Proper Barbell row form consists of: 1. Hip hinge, 2. Neutral back 3. Strong brace You don't wait during your rows, if you aim for high reps, you should stand up and straight and take a another deep breathe to brace. The only time you shouldn't do barbell rows or similiar excercises if when you're: 1. (chronically) injured 2. old 3. have such low stamina that you can't hold your breath for 5 tot 10 seconds in order to brace

[@mtaylor3058]

The only thing Bob and Brad are missing is proper core work during their exercises. Latest research (10 years +) shows that we should not advise arching the low back during ANY exercise because this is directly opposed to core activation. It’s the core (area between hip bones and pubic bone) that protects low back (with glutes too). Bent over rows with knees bent, hips back and torso at a 45 degree angle are better than 90 degree but only when core is engaged. Cheers!

[@mtaylor3058]

Devin loves everyone I’m a physical therapist and hold an advanced degree in exercise science as well. I work with (repair) people every day who have ruined their backs with improper form during exercise, especially squats and heavy lifting, but also those who hurt themselves bending over and picking up a shoe!. An arched back essentially disengages the support structure needed to prevent the lumbar vertebrae from compressing and causing pinched nerves, QL dysfunction, SI joint problems and more. No arched backs! We need to teach strong core is the basis of all exercises and human movements. I also am a workout fiend so I know the difference and benefit first hand. All the best!

[@chriss4365]

What about dead lifts?

[@djalilgsf6845]

Same lol

[@djalilgsf6845]

Its sucks because i have sciatica and i stopped those exercises but those exercises are the best but i stopped them although i had a good posture

[@mcmuffin7612]

You're supposed to do it more at a 45 degree angle..not 90 degrees and it's for lats

[@JoseMartinez-bf3ej]

Sitting down would be preferable? would it not, unless you are trying to fatigue lower body aswell.

[@mcmuffin7612]

Jose Martinez yes and no. If you do them correctly it doesn't put nearly as much stress on the spine as they're saying, but most people don't. When you lift a lot, your body gets used to everything so every slight variable in your exercises can make a big difference to break through plateaus.

[@nathaliedavis4692]

The volume is so low on your videos. I am subscribed but it is rather difficult to watch! Maybe subtitles if you can't get better mics?

[@DamiensWife52805]

Nathalie Davis You can turn on captions from menu list.

[@Zephyr828]

The volume is fine.

[@nathaliedavis4692]

@@DamiensWife52805 thanks! I have tried that before but it can come out all funny on KZbin! Do you feel like the volume is low? Or maybe just my phones problem?

[@DamiensWife52805]

Nathalie Davis Yeah captions can act up, I feel you. Sometimes my phone is real low as well, I've been noticing it more espcly w/KZbin. I usually have to wear earbuds, just make sure you keep them at a lower level til you start the video, then adjust as needed those ads can blow a drum or two! 😉

[@prafullnag4356]

Sir how to reduce belly fat with sciatica problem please make a video

[@foxybob222]

use CBD oil with the Tens , super effective !!

[@nightwishbadr]

Unfortunately i saw this video after I got sciatica

[@miszBEB0x]

Are they saying dead lifts r bad

[@yashghodasara6932]

Exactly

[@dettol7245]

Its so sad to see them doing like this without knowing

[@briand1367]

I think much worse is the stiff leg deadlift or standard dead lift.Dont even try them.

[@amazinggrace4924]

Well the guy on the right looks 2 feet taller than the guy on the left

[@ohmslaw6856]

Imagine at 7:26 the wall anchor broke off the wall and hit him in the head

[@eversunnyguy]

This dead lift described here is WHAT CAUSED my sciatica pain. I suffered for 1 year and tried all kinds of exercises, meds and even considered surgery. OMG..Deadly exercise. Never do it !

[@bradenbeach1261]

I’m in the same boat right now what did you end up doing?

[@eversunnyguy]

@@bradenbeach1261 Physical therapy eventually helped. Took painkillers.

[@robb6146]

Not, if you bend your knees.

[@fasttwitchfp]

Gentlemen, I've been training free weight bent over rows for DECADES and have only gotten positive results from the exercise across all age ranges. To answer your earlier question regarding the target of the exercise, it challenges the upper back concentrically, eccentrically and isometrically while also correcting poor scapular mobility and postural positioning, insufficient core/abdominal stabilization and solidification, hip mobility and balance. Not only that but it strengthens the skeleton, lengthens the hamstrings, builds tons of strength and muscle right where its needed and burns calories like few other movements can. Seriously gents, you should remove this video. You're WAY off on this one and being irresponsible by influencing people away from this fantastic exercise.

[@afshankhalil4307]

I agree with the reply of Francois Tort.

[@tylerburke1724]

These guys have no knowledge to weight lifting lol at all. This is painful.

[@teofitness1957]

I m a fitness instructor and I ve done barbell row in the gym for the past15 years.now I have sciatica but fortunately the symptoms go until the buttocks

[@floralemm]

So even with sciatica, can you still training ?

[@teofitness1957]

Yes but I don’t do deadlifts and barbell rows

[@floralemm]

@@teofitness1957 thank you !

[@bhavna123]

Can we lift weights we sciatica? I'm scared of lifting because of my sciatica..

[@teofitness1957]

@@bhavna123 I’ve stopped doing deadlifts and barbell rows because my sciatica is getting worse .At night while I’m sleeping the pain is really annoying. If you don’t want to stop lifting ,then you have to adapt your training ,you can build your legs with other exercises.In my opinion you have to stop doing deadlifts and barbell rows. When you’re doing squats don’t do the exercise in full range of motion.

[@Jimmy_Kemmel_is_a_pedo]

If u can make your video shorter, it would be great