This Fork Is Insane...Trust Performance - The Message (Ridden & Reviewed)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

As of today, Trust Performance has gone out of business 😬. Sincerely, Jeff - August 2020

[@MahatmaAndhi]

Would like great on my '95 Marin Pine Mountain.

[@LuisManuelHdez]

Needs to come down another $900.00!

[@TabulaRasa001]

Still more than twice what it's worth, especially since you can hardly tune it.

[@thetimkatt819]

My bank account is more like an PIN than a phone number. I'm gonna have to pass on this. It looks cool AF though.

[@sp4msolo724]

That's awesome.. I'll buy two now 👍

[@riptidebandits3741]

I can't wait until 2057 when this tech trickles down to my price range.

[@bvcxzgt5451]

This came out in the 1950's and has since been forgotten. So, don't wait until 2057. You have to wait until 2080. Then you can style it up to look current, claim it is yours, and charge thousands for it.

[@sp4msolo724]

Don't worry. This fork will be unheard off in a few years time.

[@Root-wq5ir]

Just like 11 seeds , only 3 years and the price gone down :v

[@spacex2107]

[@Cyber_Cowboy]

I'm just glad that 1983 tech is finally affordable

[@JayMS916]

Finally. A fork for the 1%.

[@MFink-oq5hy]

You've managed to bring politics into something completely apolitical

[@JayMS916]

@@MFink-oq5hy - What I did was make a joke. Nothing political about joking the fork is for the ultra rich.

[@techguy5302]

@@MFink-oq5hy Take your meds. No one mentoined polics get rid of your tds. Not everything is about him..

[@MFink-oq5hy]

@@techguy5302 This is rich (no pun intended). I'm right wing. What made you conclude I have TDS?

[@techguy5302]

@@MFink-oq5hy Because you thaught a non poltical statement was poltical?

[@dylanmichealclements]

I just bought a car to get me to work and back. I spent 600 dollars. It's a fantastic car.

[@JordanBartholme]

No it's not. lol It may be a serviceable car, but "fantastic" for $600? I think not.

[@trenguy25]

For him its fantastic. Its not your car.

[@haworthluke]

bro we have all been there 😂.

[@centripetal25]

@@trenguy25 That's a very 2020 thing to say XD. I'd say it depends whether we are referring to the subjective "fantastic" or the objective "fantastic". Contrary to common belief there are still objective scales regardless of personal sentiment.

[@steveharrigan7811]

@@JordanBartholme In 2017 I bought a 66 Chevelle with a 396 and a four speed for $750.00 It IS a fantastic car. I put another $1,350.00 into it, and it turns low 10's@ 146mph. Pretty damn fantastic from where I stand. Waaaaaay cooler than any $5000.00 mountain bike.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff7448]

You can Trust that I'll never pay $2k for a fork.

[@ryanc2115]

fuck yeah!

[@SoCalLobo]

I think you should build a “future bike” using all the strangest or innovative tech. Trust fork, push coil shock, oval chain ring, sram axs drivetrain and dropper, synchros integrated headset carbon handle bars. That would be so sick and fun to watch y’all ride!

[@zeusdreadbeard8990]

How about a gearbox?

[@maxkaufel4715]

And those 3 spoke wheels

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

This is a video I would absolutely look forward to and watch. Edit: actually more than watch, that's something that could be worthy of a mass share if done right.

[@Brockthedog315]

That would definitely beg the question if money were no object. I wanna see this for sure!

[@jakegordon2817]

Mike Levy from Pinkbike basically built this bike without e drivetrain

[@Mattebodra]

It's just a fancy Vespa front suspension, Piaggio uses this since the 50s

[@ThatRandomGuy20]

Exactly my first thought. Might have to borrow my lambretta forks for my mountain bike now

[@Sionnach1601]

Wow did not know that! Well done for sharing!! They could potentially have a patent infringement on their hands so.

[@Mattebodra]

@@Sionnach1601 wait, my comment is pretty naive, made just to laugh. I actually don't know the exact function of this fork. The system is pretty close at first glance, but what happens inside I suspect it's different. Also, I don't think Piaggio owns the patent for the Vespa front suspension.

[@martind349]

Janus uses this, or the pivot is fore

[@UltimatePwnageNL]

It's double wishbone suspension. Many supercars have it, the honda goldwing has it, and BMW's telelever is practically the same as well. Nothing new mechanically speaking, but everything has been done at least once somewhere anyways with 300+ years of vehicle development in human history :D

[@mixflip]

That titanic bow ride into the curb was definitely ballsy.

[@randomguy46yearsago78]

I just watched a 19 minute ad without skipping it ;_;

[@jasoncross6151]

Jon White had a similar working fork back in the late 90’s where it absorbed front impacts but this thing just shows how far this style of fork has come, hats to the designers 👍🏼

[@ColeJT]

That's such a good idea. It's like a transition fork - when you think about long travel forks, they're ALWAYS on super slacked head tubes. What affects control more than any geometry of the bike? Head tube angle. They managed to take the forces that are pushed in the direction of travel into a fork that maintains a highly maneuverable headtube. They're trying to maximize safety (maneuverability) with speed (head on impacts). Clever idea, and I'm glad I watched this.

[@andrewcox7416]

I’d like to see how it performs on low speed technical climbs where sometimes more rider input is needed when preloading and jibbing up awkward rocks and roots.

[@floatingrabbit3556]

tHE NOT SO GREAT THING ABOUT CYCLING TODAY IS HOW SOME BIKES ARE WORTH JUST AS MUCH AS CARS.

[@Ne0N420]

yeah, and they make them for less than $100 a piece im guessing

[@n3lis94]

I bought my car for €1050 (I am still a student) that makes this fork alone worth almost three times as much

[@dillonwarman7769]

Not worth but cost

[@classicjag76]

You can also get a really good bike for under a grand. This is the beauty of the free market. If nobody bought the high end stuff, the low end stuff would not be low end and we would have no innovation

[@jdiggitty]

A "mid-range" mountain bike costs what a motocross bike does. That's insane to think about.

[@MattWiener]

I get that its good and innovative. But $2700.00 is just insane.

[@johnbravo7542]

Matt W sadly people will buy them,just like the idiots that's spend $3k on speaker cables,or worse interconnect cables.

[@tiograb]

5k on an apple monitor

[@lukito7374]

Or have a trek remedy 8 for the same price

[@pli257]

@@tiograb 1k on an Apple Monitor stand

[@artgreg2296]

i that price i could almost bought the electric nutrail cube fatbike

[@schadlarry]

I'd pay 3K if the Ferris Bueller music was always playing while riding.

[@loganbeck7276]

This seems like it would be awesome on an aggressive hard tail. The head angle wouldn't get too much steeper when the fork compresses and in berms it would be pretty rigid on both ends.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Totally! I'm excited to try it on an Sb100. Could be great for that bike.

[@grizcuz]

It would look great on my 'modern geometry' hardtail, but it costs nearly twice what I paid for the entire bike [plus probably an expensive divorce suit if she found out what it cost.]

[@andrewnorris5415]

And the weight penalty would not be so much with no rear shock. And hardtails are low maintenance which suits this fork. Still too pricey for me though.

[@ericpmoss]

Based on the no-hands curb hit and the cost of facial reconstruction, maybe the fork isn't *that* expensive.

[@johncast9565]

"Dont parking lot test it." Calls up Trust - RUN IT STRAIGHT INTO A CURB IN YOUR PARKING LOT. lol

[@deusexaethera]

To be fair, "parking lot testing" generally means riding on flat ground and pumping the fork with your arms, not running into curbs without even popping a little wheelie to help get over the curb.

[@maxmcallister6148]

I was worried at first that linkage forks would look crap on mountain bikes but this fork opens a whole new pathway to how sick a linkage fork can look!! 🔥🔥👀

[@slate613]

Having only recently discovered Guerrilla Gravity [yes, I suck lol], all I can think about is how sick would this look on their all carbon frames?

[@thanosbustedinyourmum]

They look geh

[@alexunlv]

Is this the $1k Apple stand of MTBing?

[@scann563]

no. the apple stand is non-innovative and still expensive

[@theedmondsept]

Anything Dave makes I'll ride, I own a Pivot Firebird 27.5 and I ride it everywhere, XC trails, bike parks, shuttle rides, enduro races, Mammoth, Northstar, and Whistler A-line, it's my all around bike, and What Dave has done to the way the bike pedals, is amazing.

[@MTBTrailRider]

I love the comment you said about "If you're OPEN MINDED..." I think that is so important in so many factors. Thanks for the review and the detail you provided here!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Happy to help!

[@sycpup]

7:39 lol! everything is expensive when it first comes out. i remember when a 40 inch LCD TV cost about $8000-$10000, now you can get them for $400. this fork sounds amazing and the price will come down. that's when i'll think about getting one. until then, i'll continue enjoy my Fox 36.

[@lyricmaster6763]

Finally a person who uses their brain

[@lossantoscity3249]

@@lyricmaster6763 Agree with you, But this just looks over tricky, And wont give any improvements i think since the traditional fork has been proven and tested, Dirt bikes suspension does more Research and the traditional fork is the best design, also it looks ugly. Check out Fox 34 or 36 its just sexy looking fork.

[@WillN2Go1]

I'd definitely have this. Seems brilliant. There's so much energy and forces when a wheel meets an obstacle it seems almost obvious (now) to use some of that to get the wheel over the obstacle. Suspension is an interesting topic, not just on bicycles. During WWII they kept improving the Willys Jeep suspension until they arrived at an amazing front suspension with one problem, if both front wheels were airborne the wheels would fold under and roll the jeep-- often killing the driver and passengers. They backed off. I made a prototype cart and because I didn't have much hardware on hand I used shock cord (which is tension not the compression I needed) so I used a lever--wheel on the other side of the arm. The thing rode right over rocks a bit like this s bicycle suspension. (me: luck, Messenger: design). I looked for other examples of my suspension and what I found was a highly developed area of engineering that seemed to mostly improve on what was already being used instead of trying new things. In MTBs this methodology would be to just keep improving on the standard front shocks design. This clearly seems better.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

If cost was not a factor would you run the The Message fork? Let us know!

[@nickgerard988]

No because I don’t want my bike to look like a space ship 🚀

[@derekim75]

Im happy with my rockshox rylik.....

[@jackadler5941]

Would try/demo it, then decide. Worried about the side to side movement as mentioned in other reviews.

[@neadof4222]

I would love to try it, but very expensive. Awesome video 🤘

[@chameleonpogono]

Love to try it. Wonder about movement from side to side, especially after some hard riding.

[@actionong]

I'm a middle aged dad with limited skills but a decent bank account. I rode the Trust Message fork on Evil Following bike shop demo. Most noticeable difference on 30 min loop is the traction into corners. The bike feels more comfortable leaning further into turns. Managed to get BP in segments without pushing for both uphill and downhill. My usual bike is a 2019 transition smuggler with Fox36 Grip2. For the enjoyment factor and frequency of use, I'm very tempted to buy.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Hell yeah! Utilize that big bank account daddy! 😎

[@HansensUniverseT-A]

As a mechanic i see complexities which will lead to unreliability, lot's of service time, too many moving parts etc, and frankly there is nothing innovative about this, this principle has been around for a long time.

[@deusexaethera]

Eh...sealed cartridge bearings don't require much maintenance. I'm more concerned that it just won't ride very well unless you're hellbent on convincing yourself your $2700 was well-spent. I've ridden linkage-forks before and I didn't like them.

[@index7787]

It's ment to win races and push the sport, small price to pay. I agree, I'm surprised no one has tried this before, that linkage has been around for decades.

[@technimechanical]

Yet... it will function perfectly till it dies and your "mechanic brain" is nonsense here... so let's not act like a keyboard professional k?

[@jeep13ca]

Like an old school springer front end from the motorcycle world hey.

[@joshiboy31]

Imagine having to service that at home🤯

[@timnz009]

No brake diving, and no bobbing up hills... looks like the wheel trails behind the pivot... a trailing arm suspension moves up and away from bumps... great idea !

[@unogazzy84]

5:26 look at the brake cable. When I first saw this I immediately thought: This gonna feel good on bumps. It looks to have speed wobble but if you look at the angle of the steerer tube and follow it to the wheel, it looks like the wheel is on a normal fork.

[@maxdad05]

the negative motion of feeling "stiff", is still transferring energy into the bike and body. the fact that the suspension is "directional" means it only works in motion. id still like try it though

[@a.wolfgang6423]

I would take it if cost wasn't a factor. It's perfect for my 120mm trai bike hardtail. However the fork would be twice as expensive as my bike lol

[@NevadaSmith2]

I can't get over the way it looks. But it still looks immensely cooler than a Lefty!

[@TheCrashingDad]

i would totally run a Message fork... but I would like to see what they plan on for longer travel options, AND lighter setups (which I would highly expect out of a full carbon, short travel, odd looking fork...)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Yeah will be super cool to see what they come out with next.

[@SuperDipMonster]

I'd love to see them bring out a 203 mm version.😀

[@GeorgeLoch]

That nohands curb hop was crazy! I love that we are seeing innovation like this.

[@deusexaethera]

Did you see how slow he was going? The rider's balance and ability to aim the bike straight at the curb matter way more than suspension performance at such slow speeds. Back when I was young and stupid I could ride no-hands over curbs that slowly on a fully-rigid Huffy. Nowadays I'm sick of falling on my ass, so I don't try things like that anymore.

[@onemetre]

Setting aside the price, I'd be strongly considering it to replace my present fork.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Nice!

[@awesomexistence]

At 5:50 while actuating the fork while braced against a wall, the wheelbase is noticeably shortened. I would equate this with variable wheelbase/trail as riding roots and rock gardens actuate the fork. Interesting dynamics happening and review impressions are positive. Innovative!

[@awesomexistence]

After further research the wheelbase does shorten, however this fork is a negative offset with a linear curve of travel and range that mantains a constant measure of “trail” and stability. This may break thru the current standards where brake dive and compression forces quickly change and reduce “trail”, thus giving up some stability.

[@briangc1972]

All full suspension bikes experience changes in head angle and trail while the front and rear are going through their motions. This is a better movement than a straight telescoping fork collapsing it's length as it compresses.

[@hazard7732]

It seems like this thing operates like an inboard suspension. You can tune them so the stiffness varies through the range of the shock. It's soft when it's fully extended and progressively gets more and more firm as the wheel gets higher and higher

[@benevolentdictator2315]

This is a good design as it maintains radial vector stiffness to prevent washouts while cornering. It does this while absorbing tangential vector forces (hitting relative vertical planes). This design has the effect of an increased rake angle without taking away from cornering ease. Certainly optimal for downhill racing.

[@randomdudeontheinternet4389]

I like the looks of it, reminds me of two spider legs holding the wheel. But the pricetag is just way above my budget. (My account looks like a phone number, sadly it's only 911)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

911 haha!

[@rightcoastermtb2340]

I really appreciate the sound fx and movie clips you guys use, in addition to the great content

[@deusexaethera]

Looks like an upside-down version of the Girvin Vector fork that was installed on my 1996 Pro-Flex 756. The Girvin Vector was also designed to be more plush against obstacles vs. simply pumping the fork with your arms on flat ground. (Girvin called it "J-Path", based on the travel of the front hub when the suspension was compressed.) I never really liked that fork; J-Path sounds like a great idea, but it was extremely unsettling to have the front wheel traveling _back_ as well as up when it hit a bump, _especially_ when cornering. I replaced my Girvin Vector with a Manitou SX-R in 2002 and I was much happier with it. I've never had any interest in going back to linkage forks.

[@deusexaethera]

I want to clarify the reason why having the front axle traveling rearward as well as up is unsettling, for anyone who hasn't had the experience: When cornering, the fork is turned somewhat to the side, so the "rearward" travel of the front axle ends up being somewhat sideways as well. This causes the side-to-side balance point of the bike to change _while you're leaning into the corner._ Unfortunately there is no way this new fork could be magically engineered to not suffer from the same problem, because the linkage mechanism is still attached to the steered part of the fork just like with the Girvin Vector. But, I suppose people don't ride technical trails as much as they used to, so maybe the problem I stated doesn't matter. It's all about going downhill fast nowadays.

[@19bps95]

Aside from the interesting content, this guy is an awesome reviewer! Clear, engaging, knowledgeable and very few 'erms', Top Review Dude!

[@careed18]

I'll wait for the dual crown DH version

[@SuperDipMonster]

That would be amazing but I doubt it'd ever be done.

[@deusexaethera]

My 1996 Pro-Flex 756 came with a dual-crown Girvin Vector linkage fork. I didn't like it. Stick with sliding-stanchion forks.

[@thetruelefty9302]

This is old technology the girder fork has been around for a long time and still works the best in terms of geometry. I am glad to see more companies are talking an old idea to a higher level.

[@markcaruana2697]

How about maintenance..a lot of pivots with muddy conditions equals lots of maintenance.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Hard to say in the long term but I can see how that could be a concern.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Just an add on to our last comment. They do offer a lifetime warranty on the pivot bearings for the original owner.

[@clarkie005]

Exactly for the uk this is a no good

[@kajdzik1]

A lot of "play" on the pivots is a matter of time.

[@benevolentdictator2315]

Yep, usually with higher performance and tight tolerances comes higher maintenance, but they did say that internal maintenance only every 250 hours which is amazingly high as motorcycle forks for off road can only do maybe 20 to 30 hours. This is for the elite racer, especially in corner speed; stiff along the centripetal/radial vector (prevents washouts) but able to absorb hits along the tangential force vector (impulse when hitting a relative vertical plane).

[@donaldolin4616]

Telescopic forks are still the gold standard for the motorized dirt bike world. They are still metal, use springs and oil and shims for valving, and are very tuneable.The leading link type suspensions of yesteryear did work well though as they prevented the front end from diving and conserved geometry. These are some interesting forks though and I would like to try some.

[@simonhodgson8333]

I'm curious as to how it handles under heavy braking. It seems that it would want to dive more than a conventional fork since the caliper location would pull the rear linkage directly upwards. This may not be an issue with it's intended trail / enduro usage (or it may, I'm an XC endurance rider so I'm ignorant about other aspects of riding). Either way thanks for another great video.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thanks for watching Simon! If anything the fork dives less than a "traditional" fork. The combination of the stiffness, linkage, and the tune itself makes this fork perform so well. If at all possible I'd highly recommend trying this fork for yourself. It's just so different from anything else out there.

[@simonhodgson8333]

@@WorldwideCyclery Good to hear. It's definitely an interesting fork, probably overkill for my usage but I'll try and goad some of my enduro friends into buying it so I can give it a good test.

[@helihead11]

Some high performance aircraft have “trailing link landing gear” which really smooth out landings and reduces the bounce on landings. Really great to see this fork.

[@Marc28031984]

Nice to see innovation. Pretty well thought out fork...but I don't like the look and the price..obviously.😅 But hey, it's innovations like that, what the bike industry needs to keep moving forward. Someone thought out of the box and for THAT you have to give them credit. 👍🏼

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Totally agree! Sometimes innovation and progress looks a little funky.

[@dimdosh]

Look up Moulton bikes? The suspension concept was designed by Dr. Alex Moulton from the UK for his range of iconic bikes back in the 1950s. Good to see an honest 21st century upgrade!

[@aujax1]

just gotta refinance my house .

[@nickwooden2103]

Linkage forks. Gear boxes. Wireless seat post and shifting. Bikes progression is incredible. Im still blown away by dropper seat posts

[@nickwooden2103]

@@truantray yeah i really enjoy office chairs aswell. Wish they had 29 inch wheels though

[@jackfrost2146]

People keep saying that it's a leading link suspension. Actually it's a version of trailing link design.

[@philwise3541]

This is a really interesting development in forks and I’ll look forward to seeing how Trust moves forwards with it and I wish them every success. Unfortunately at $2700 it’s way above my price range, but maybe if the big boys Fox and Rockshox decide to jump on this wagon, it’ll make it even more interesting and competitive in both design and pricing. The future looks amazing, and we haven’t even spoken about rear shocks yet! So good.

[@dekmedina]

Who else thinks that this is much more way cooler and beautiful than the Lauf?

[@evilrslade]

Very interesting idea. There looks to be movement around the brake caliper and a lot of movement in the brake hose. I guess you'd have to keep an eye on that to prevent mechanical failure... When they get the price down i'd definitely try one.

[@lexusstefan927]

its an amazing piece of tech, but my eyes are just not ready for it ahaha

[@actionong]

Applaud for new approach. Good luck

[@vispolonia2670]

Front wheel travels back, not only up. That's why it smooths curbs nicely.

[@eusebiocanogutierrez493]

I loved that suspension fork, what a innovation, I think it looks really cool on enduro bikes, and it seems to have an amazing performance. I'd like to try one!!!

[@dawn-moon]

The angle from the crown to the wheel seems weird, almost like it's going to crack either the frame mount, or the fork itself at heavy impacts ( vertical drops )

[@bokbokdroid]

The fork stanchions are angled forward but the wheel’s actual position is the same as the typical telescopic fork

[@Mike-dz7qz]

i still may buy one at that price. The design makes perfect sense. With the offset out front, a regular fork is pushing the wheel. With this slackened fork, and the mechanics in the back, the wheel actually hangs and the fork pulls the wheel back and up on impacts. . I can see how it would track better and as a rock crawler, how it could save me a few trips over the bars...

[@isaidgooddaysir2585]

That's the thing that struck me first as you (and others) have explained this fork.. "The head angle doesn't change as you compress". Now I may be wrong, but I think that alone is a huge selling point. - Some poeple these days seem to be soooo very anal about having their head and seat angles just right.. and then ride off down a technical descent or ride it up a techie climb only to have a bike which at sag alone makes it over a full degree steeper/slacker in all the wrong places.

[@briangc1972]

I feel that problem on every ride. I would buy one if they were a grand, but $2700 is a lot of money. Though, if it made my current bike better than a $6k full sus, then it would save me money.

[@M5Dri3rz]

I could see this being something useful for more extreme cyclocross and gravel riders. That said, my bike doesn't even cost $2700 so it'll probably be a while before I get my hands one one of these.

[@andreasvogler1875]

The bend angles of the brake line look a bit extreme. Hope that line doesn't fatigue and burst.

[@Syn741]

i think the way they designed it is at a certain angle the wheel hits the bumps, it feels softer but when force is input in another direction it feels stiffer. from what i can see, any force that hits the wheel at an angle parallel to the fork, it will be smoother/softer and when you push it down when you car park test it, the force is not parallel to the fork which means not all the force is dampen, that's why it feels stiffer. but over all that's an interesting mechanic for a fork

[@thebritishbiker8197]

I really want to see this on a hardtail

[@danieldevlin391]

Might have to pick one up. Just came across your videos. Very informative and interesting. Thank you.

[@boomfyah395]

I stopped the video at 7:15, no need to listen more about this product, i totally love it.

[@johnbravo7542]

Did you fork out the $2700 for it?

[@wordreet]

Looks brilliant and apparently performs that way! I would definitely put it on one of my bikes if I could afford it. Way back in about 1980 I was riding a Greeves Trials m/cycle which had a cantilever front fork. It pivoted the opposite way to this one, but just like it, you could ride over surprisingly big rocks etc, and they barely disturbed the bike.

[@matismud]

Jeff, Would you put this Trust Fork in a Yeti 4.5? Thx.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Totally! That'd be a great bike for this fork.

[@stiritup4663]

One of my favorite things is innovation, creativity, and progress. Two of my favorite things is counting.

[@deusexaethera]

Your third favorite thing is making lists, right? RIGHT???

[@foxygaming7912]

Wtf?!?! I just drew this!! This is my dream fork woah!

[@fluffy1973]

big and bulky yes, but that's never been an issue with DH. Clever design which makes perfect sense for the application. I'm willing to try anything once when it comes to cycling

[@Nazraq04]

If this fork can be proven to produce better times and race results, then it's worth the money. Otherwise, it isn't worth sacrificing your muscle memory and years of experience on a traditional fork. Riding a bike that feels drastically different from your setup can make you slower or even crash more often.

[@CaBdosdos]

It can also make you ride like a hero and smash your old PR's.

[@IsraelMagalit]

Great vid. Well done. DW is one of the Masters of the Universe 😁 Hopefully the tech will trickle down and they make these in aluminum too, to bring down cost. I mean, 7075 Al can be welded now right?

[@phill1491]

So what you're saying is, I need this when i build my full carbon hardtail? Add it to the list right under the enve wheels!

[@reillystsb]

Gives a whole new meaning to earls front end

[@ronernst3991]

It has high caster and likes to go straight, like the front wheels on a shopping cart.

[@TristanBastidas]

I love the pun at 8:12

[@chayang5757]

Should do free give away every time WorldWide Cyclery gains 5-10k subscribers. I agreed!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Hahaha excellent idea! We will be out of business in 3 months but people will have some nice suspension.

[@chayang5757]

Worldwide Cyclery haha..no we definitely don’t want that to happen, but small item give away would be awesome.

[@terryclark4906]

@@WorldwideCyclery like better stems for peiple with low grade bikes or deore gears or brakes

[@Dude-Smellmyhelmet]

I dont care either way. I never win anything.

[@JB-mw5rg]

Great thing to be remembered for :)@@WorldwideCyclery

[@Sionnach1601]

Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Reminds me of the Lotus (cars) suspension designs of the 90s where like this fork they designed their suspension to *only* be soft and shock absorbing where it should do I.e. over bumps, but not to compress whilst cornering. I admire that. On a theme of innovation though, I am stunned with Christini bikes' 2WD system, which has also been adapted to motorbikes, Hondas in particular. The US military have actually contracted a bunch of them (I think?) It would be nice to see you lads reviewing them in your professional thorough way that you do. I really think they deserve a look at and that 2WD technology should be embraced and allowed into the world. Weight wise: It's only something like 1kg heavier for the *total* extra transmission components.

[@thatrandombikeguy]

I would get it just because it looks crazy and I doubt any local riders have ever seen one!! Hahaha!!

[@ln663]

Speaking of service intervals. I haven't seen any service manuals and repair kits and spec sheets (ie bearings, bolts screw torque etc) on their website. To me this is also important even if servicing isn't required as much as traditional forks to because in the end, it will still require maintenance.

[@chaotictattoo]

"where ever you point it, it just goes there" "it's Stiff"

[@Wklambert]

If that bottom angle was adjustable, that would probably make it more plush on a straight down drop. It is the angle on that bottom bracket that makes forward bumps so much more easy to ride over, with control.

[@justicewarrior9187]

Finally!!! New inventions and engineering!

[@owengallagher3992]

This looks awesome... I'm going into mech engineering next year out of highschool and designing mountain bikes and components is my dream job!

[@Texasbroski512]

I bet it feels weird because it looks like it shortness you're wheelbase as is compressed

[@chrisjamz2206]

I'm sure this fork is wAAAy better than my old Girvin crosslink elite from the old days (late 90's) The Girvin was excellent (corners and tracking and climbing) and very different for its time too! Let's hope this Trust fork earns the trust of die hard conventional fork riders!

[@awakentea7295]

Still have the same Girvin Elite on a vintage Trek 9800 OCLV. Probably the most underrated fork in history. IMO it was the best blend of innovation and simplicity; within it’s means of use. You can ride that thing as hard as you want and service it once every 10 years. The Trust fork reminds me of BMW’s sophisticated telelever suspension.

[@alanrowe4501]

This is just like the AMP fork from the late 80's. They just put the parallagram at the top of the fork. This looks like more travel though.

[@rico8089]

Mert Lawwill the "Lawwill leader" fork that's exactly what I was thinking

[@alanrowe4501]

@@rico8089 It may have been smaller and at the top of the fork and fork crown. Definitely nothing new under the sun.

[@ronniepayne9893]

Absolutely... hell yeah! Wish I could afford one...

[@peaohvee1784]

Very cool. Totally revolutionary.......just ignore the price

[@Tay675]

After reading most of the comments the price seems to be its biggest hurdle. For the most part it sounds like most of us would like to try it and although complex the maintenance internals are so far between it’s comparable to a traditional. Admire the effort for evolving the sport.

[@robniemeyer3832]

If price wasn't a factor yes I would put this on my bike.

[@6fivenick]

Yes! I would absolutley put this on my bike!

[@lesterburnham509]

Ahaha... Phenomenal... It's from the scooters of the 80th... Maybe earlier. It's unbeliavable how someone tries to sell a fork with a price of a car...

[@timshannon5474]

It's pretty close to the AMP Research front suspension from the 90's that I had. Same idea with the way the pivots work. Amp fork was awsome!

[@leonmarahas2086]

Xactly

[@NibNa5ty]

That fork for a human powered bike cost more than my motorcycle

[@TrailPOV]

Out of interest, is there any concern with the super slack angle that the fork arms make with the headtube? I know many manufacturers have limits on how long a fork you can have on a frame because the angle becomes such that you apply very sideways angles on the headtube if you put a 180mm fork on a 120mm bike for instance, leading to cracks. This thing looks like the connection angle is super slack, even if the fork does travel a similar path to a more upright traditional fork.