This Frozen Halo Waterfall Will Save The Galaxy! | Halo CE Control Center's Waterfall Purpose

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[@Foreign0817]

One note about Halo 2's control room, remember where the Gravemind was at? His chamber? It looks like Alpha Halo's control room. Perhaps it took over Delta's original control room, and so a new one was chosen...

[@scoutbr00]

Indeed, this is quite an overlooked detail. The Gravemind was resting inside Delta Halo's Control room, so anyone wanting to activate the ring would have to confront the Gravemind. I don't think its unreasonable to think the Sentinels would build a secondary failsafe control room in case the original one was unusable. It would also explain the ruined and aged structures in Delta Halo, as most likely they would divert resources to maintain critical structures in the ring such as the Control Room and the Sentinel Wall.

[@RasputinNotPutin]

The Gravemind was not inside Alpha Halos control room ​@@scoutbr00

[@scoutbr00]

@@RasputinNotPutin fixed

[@mylawnisdusty-ms2ui]

Cortana talks about the water being unnatural on delta halo. Mastery chief then gets taken below to the gravemind. Maybe the water safeguard got activated on delta halo and the gravemind is in the original control room which is submerged by water. It all adds up thinking about it

[@NorthstarSystem]

Gravemind is beneath the library on delta halo. Cortana even confirms it in high charity. "Flood controlled-dropships are touching down all over the city! That creature beneath the Library... that 'Gravemind'... used us."

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

The one thing that always "sort of" scratched at the back of my brain was how mobile the Flood were in the cold conditions. I always felt it should have slowed them down a little. But that's as far as I went. You really dug into this and credit due my man, it makes perfect sense! SUBSCRIBED!

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

Well as one might think the cold wasn't to freeze everything, I'm sure the forerunners could have done that but they also wanted the control room to be accesible, only when the flood managed to reach the control room and turn it into they blyth land will they be surprised by the waterfall

[@ryanapperson8932]

Hm, my thought was always that the machinery around AoTCR was ancillary to Halo's firing mechanisms. The pipes might be to carry fuel or coolant (another reason for the area also to be as cold as it is) and the massive frozen chasms to vent the energy from the control room after it's activated. A lot of the pipes, especially the big glowing one in the beginning chasm, glow with an energy that might show them to be generators of some kind, with their main centers being the phase pulse generators you disable in Two Betrayals. The cold does serve to slow down the flood as well but I always thought this was less to literally freeze them than to deny them access to host biomass, since it can't survive very well in that harsh of an environment.

[@LMG3000-s8f]

That's basically how I always saw it. Extreme heat straight up kills them whereas extreme cold makes it harder for them to reproduce by depriving them of biomass

[@OfficialOpinion]

AotCR is my favourite level in the whole franchise. It's my favourite type of videogame biome and has some of my favourite Forerunner architecture. Namely; the Control Center Ziggurat. I've been working on a mod. I want to make it another control room level, like AotCR and The Great Journey. But whenever I place the Ziggurat in a big wide area, it just doesn't feel right. This video really makes me think about how being in a tight cavern like that is brilliant. Both in a gameplay sense and a lore sense. Thank you so much for this. I needed it ♡♡

[@Maldr.]

I'd play the heck outta that!

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

Yeah, now I do also think about what masterz did in spv3, basically instead of coming on a bridge through a door you come from a tunnel way behind where the Waterfall used to be so basically flooding the control room is out of the question

[@JackJonValois]

The tunnels and that chasm are probably a drain for the water. The pipes would probably send the water back up to its initial reservoir above before where it would come down the waterfall.

[@TEZAFIM]

My mind is blown, i never would have considered this even after playing Aotcr several times

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

Then what can a halo veteran say when I've been playing since 2002 and never gave it a thought

[@Elijah668]

I loved your breakdowns of halo revolved, so im bursting with joy to see you make a video thats just lore and speculation

[@KYOTYouTube]

Thank you!

[@Fyrehart97]

This video just blew my mind! This all makes total sense with the context clues given. I love this kind of storytelling and that there's still new things to learn about this legendary game!

[@MileRedirector]

the fog up there is another safety mechanism. It's just so cold that anyone might instandly freeze.

[@robertwhelan6976]

I know this isn't your usual content but I love this type of video! I think we'd all be happy with more of this type

[@jo3y960]

It's insane to see all the little details that you never noticed before. Its funny you make these distinctions because Halo 2 just disregards this for its control center

[@chromicm6686]

You can note that Delta Halo's control room isnt the room the final battle takes place in. That is an emergency reserve back-up location. The Gravemind has already nested in and completely taken over the ring's control room, which can be seen in the gravemind cutsenes and of concept art. It's likely the outside of that structure is another frozen valley.

[@LMG3000-s8f]

@@chromicm6686 It wouldn't be that unreasonable. The Library after all is a frozen valley. While we never see Installation 04's Library from the outside it is reasonable to assume it's the same just like with Installation 05's control room.

[@kenliminal-q9h]

crazy to see that we are still finding the details on halo ce this game was the AAA of old times

[@slackingstacker]

I respect the HL2 Beta sounds in your intros

[@markjrbessett6429]

Everyone is saying that the failsafe on Delta Halo was activated, which makes sense given at that there was a Flood outbreak.

[@stagger225]

6:44 I’ve always wondered what the first area of AOTCR is designed for

[@icarusgaming6269]

Once you flood the control room and soften the Flood presence with water pressure, you need to be able to unflood it for your ensuing counterassault so you can recapture it. There's no reason the drainage ditch has to be power-related, especially since I think the energy pylons are supposed to be responsible for powering the pulse weapon with a far more sophisticated energy source

[@chibipotate]

Honestly you dont even require the place to be drained to benefit from this, To get onto a halo ring you need to be a space faring civilisation, And if you've got space suits, you've got diving suits.

[@icarusgaming6269]

@chibipotate I figure fighting underwater is inherently difficult. The Flood can do it too, so it's just the pressure of the incoming wave that threatens them

[@zentran2690]

It's so cool and I love how the cold and snow is due to the ring trying to contain and slow the flood because they cold negatively affects them. I've also always wondered about those big underground rooms with the bridges and chasms. I wonder what their purpose is.

[@mylawnisdusty-ms2ui]

Cortana says that the water formation on delta halo is not natural and could have been caused by a catastrophic event. Maybe they activated the safeguard on delta halo?

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

Could have been, the failsafe obviously failed, but who knows, the control room mightve been under that lake and the gondola and stuff were built after on top of it to create a new control room since removing the water there could lead to a catastrophy

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

You should do a video on how the story set up the visual tell that the gravemind, who had been on and off fighting the sentinel and Ring's defenses for 100k years, clearly destroyed the original control room for Delta Halo and that the sentinels were forced to rebuild it in the surface rather than Under the library. It's also interesting to think this a story retcon, as it would make logical sense to keep each Index and library close to control room, ala high above it but due to the flood sacking the control room on 05, the control room on Zero 4 was moved on purpose to be outside to prevent this where the weather can be controlled instead of the well heated inner chasms of the installation.

[@guitaristshawn]

I want to see a summertime version of this mission

[@KYOTYouTube]

@@guitaristshawn yeah I do too

[@Loch_Ness_Lachster]

Forerunners use Uni reverse card and flood the Flood.

[@TheDemigans]

Eh, kind of a weird take? Yes I heard this theory before years ago, but the Flood does not want to use the control room, it wants to make sure others don't use it. Should the waterfall flood that section and cause high pressures, it would make it harder for people to access the control room. Opening those doors at those pressures would slam anyone trying to access it around the hallways and kill them. Meaning it would benefit the Flood. They WANT to flood the area, with water or Flood doesn't matter to them. This is just like putting a prison meant to stop the spread of the Flood and only experiment on them *in the middle of a Jungle filled with cover and biomass*. A basic technique would be to either place them into a controlroom like place or an open desert, except the doors are always flooded except for the moment someone tries to access it (which could be using an underwater extendable airlock). Or you could make gasses we had access to in WWII already that dissolve biological matter, meaning that anyone accessing the Flood containment has to have a sealed suit that incidentally protects against Flood infection and if they are infected anyway their suit has to be compromised so the Flood dies upon exiting. "Ah but then the story wouldn't happen!" Yes it would, the Covenant brings Engineers and disables most of these protections on their way in. Also how about we have doors *in a prison facility* that don't open by detecting movement thankyouverymuch? Let everyone force the doors instead.

[@RavenJT-jx3ty]

The weirdest thing is that as you were typing all that, he literally explains the flood wouldn't use the control room, but guard it....exactly as the Gravemind does on Delta Halo in H2...

[@TheDemigans]

@RavenJT-jx3ty thats the point I'm making and he specifically is not. He's saying that flooding the control room is genius as it holds back the Flood. I'm saying it's dumb because it holds back the people who want to access and use the control room. People who still have to go through an army of Flood to reach that lake in the first place. I mean H2 specifically shows the Gravemind being able to use it's tentacles deep underwater to carry half a ton worth of metal out. That Gravemind won't care about a little lake on top of the Controlroom! He would love it! More defenses for enemies who want to fire off a Halo!

[@RavenJT-jx3ty]

@@TheDemigans Again.... watch the video. Submerging the control center hides it under water. Large doors prevent water flooding the room itself. Forerunners or even the monitor can teleport a reclaimer inside the room.... This is of course if you've played the game, much is already implied.

[@TheDemigans]

@RavenJT-jx3ty if you've played the game you would realize the Flood knows full well where the control room is. Flooding it would not hide it, and as shown the Gravemind would have an easy time getting in anyway and even flooding the entire thing by opening the doors. Now you have to deal with a Gravemind's tentacles inside a flooded controlroom. Current lore also lets Flood survive without air for some reason so the water wouldn't do anything to stop them from stacking the controlroom with Flood anyway. The water does zero to stop the Flood from finding and entering the controlroom. It just makes it harder for anyone inside even if they are teleported in. Enjoy!

[@CharlesJ-uu5dg]

​@@TheDemigans No the flood forms do not know where the control room is. They would need a Gravemind for that. Which is why they were ammassing a proto gravemind with Captain Keyes to gain knowledge and control. You're missing details that suggest that you haven't played CE for a while or at all.