This GOLD Says He Deserves DIAMOND in Marvel Rivals... So we made him prove it

[@ChillGuyCole]

He’s not in Elo hell at all , he’s holding his sue ult waiting for Jesus Christ to come back . Brother the Bucky is ulting killing ur whole team POP UR ULT

[@drip4448]

Bro you almost killed me 😭😭

[@ilovemesomevideogame]

Gotta love players who save ult for Rivals 3

[@dzciple4931]

dead ass just made me choke on water

[@skywalkersbutido6375]

😂😂😂

[@haxjason3720]

not to mention from how often he leaves his shield up instead of taking it back to regenerate it

[@Jonathan-vs8ud]

He’s exactly where he belongs. How someone is lord with sue and level 43 and doesn’t know he needs to ult when the enemies are ulting is beyond me. Seems like a simple concept

[@ftank9083]

He is also almost never using his push/pull to control the battlefield and put enemies out of position. Also playing like 5m too far back where his shots barely heal his tanks and does not hit the enemy team, which slows down ult charge by a mile

[@xazarl3381]

@@ftank9083 also with how far he sometimes plays in lower elo with less teamplay and worse aim they would punish it more.

[@speeddevil4040]

@@ftank9083 I think he doesn’t pop ult because his playstyle prevents him from getting ult as quick as he should.

[@bliss12_17]

100% agree. He needs to peak at plat 3/gold 1 until his game sense gets better. Positioning and decision making are right about that elo level if not under

[@Spiritbomb88]

The Lord players in this game are often times worse than normal players 😂. How they ever get to Lord in the first place is beyond me.

[@YaeNoeru311]

He is just scared in general. Scared to pop ult, scared to stand near his team, scared to do anything. And his distance management for skills and heal is just off somehow.

[@carnagerulez312]

Well duh, they threw him into the lions den with a bunch of seasoned players who know he's outclassed and outgunned. He's not a prodigy, he's just delusional 🤣😂🤣😂

[@lolala3656]

I really hate when I tanking at the front line and struggle to die in short time and when I look back and I saw 2 healer hiding at the far corner and doesn’t give you proper healing. They just so scared. But this is only part of the issue. Another one is some ppl choose healer to play dps. Doesn’t heal at all.

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

I hate when we get a few picks and I look back to see my team is standing in the backline

[@eddyboyyy1296]

@@carnagerulez312 The guy said he's only hard stuck cause of his teammates and deserves diamond-GM. This was a wake up call if anything that he needs to improve on himself and know when to pop ult and to get better positioning when trying to heal.

[@joey9511]

@@carnagerulez312 thats really the only difference between plat and diamond. Plat players play like they think they should be in silver and diamond players all think they're shroud

[@Jonathan-vs8ud]

The Loki used his ult better than he did every time. Tells you everything about what rank he deserves

[@evehellod9776]

Loki was also grandmaster though

[@sammies2004]

⁠@@evehellod9776yeah that's the point. he thinks he's better than he is

[@ins0mniaW]

@@sammies2004he’s definitely better than gold but 1 he’s playing too scared and 2 loki was the best on their team so it makes sense they out ulted him

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@ins0mniaW I dunno, if he is hard stuck gold he probably deserves it and this shows that he is too scared to even pop ults which caused his team to die a lot

[@DyingBreed8]

​@@Kuroganemk2games been out for a couple months. 😂 can't be hard stuck if he doesn't even know how to use his ult yet. He could have turned the fight a few times but he held it.

[@fearlessgoat3252]

Holy smokes as a strategist main this guy hurt my soul lol

[@Manscape-]

Fr I average 22-40k healing a comp game with Luna cnd or invs this hurt me 😭

[@fearlessgoat3252]

@ same but I’m a rocket main at heart, this guy need to go back to quick play lol

[@i.shuuya3231]

​@@fearlessgoat3252He's level 43. Makes you wonder what he has been doing lmao

[@DmvGodFather]

As a sue main bro this is sad!

[@khaledm.1476]

It makes alot of sense this player is a gold support. He plays passive af and thus truly relies on whether his team carries him or not. He's right in his initial assessment with a better team he'll win more games and with a worse team he'll lose more games. He himself has 0 impact on the game's outcome and thus is resentful to his team when he loses. However instead of being wasted air he could actually try to make a play or two, use his ult or do something

[@xSnarfsx]

Yup, it was mentioned that he was playing against players that are better than him. But he was also playing WITH players that are a lot better than him. It also felt like there were opportunities to target him that were passed up, I wonder if they went easy on him? Like you said he relies on his team to dictate the play and that's why he keeps ranking up and down.

[@jonnyunitus7166]

Agreed

[@khaledm.1476]

@xSnarfsx This is the thing with low rank support players they're just too passive. With low rank dps or tank players they probably feed alot, and sometimes they're also passive af

[@jonnyunitus7166]

@ facts. Super heal focused so it’s like a 5v6 with a heal focus Only reason this dude didn’t feed is bc his teammates were solid and didn’t stagger and he played out of the fight too much.

[@rensro2138]

Lowkey this is the correct statement, same as rocket mains

[@xandercobrand2680]

As a console player who is working their way through Plat rn, I would say he is in his proper rank. He has zero aggression, so I would expect that his team will try to push up and take space but fall over because he isn’t even in range to use half of his kit and his most effective abilities. Thus, he gets the idea that “I am alive so they messed up” but in reality he could’ve done much more to help the situation.

[@xandercobrand2680]

Is living important? Of course! But if the enemy is als not dying but applying more pressure they are outdoing you everytime.

[@Nawthankstho]

This exact comment is platinum lol

[@DummyAccount-x1w]

I feel like he wasnt using his abilities right either, i am GM2(almost GM1) on console and i can instantly see that this dudes sensitivity is too low for a character who doesnt require punisher level aiming He looks away too often, and it takes time for him to look back and process what his team is going through and make decisions accordingly. Not using the pull abilities against over extenders to punish them or make them waste cooldowns

[@leschroder7773]

Its not aggression it's the fact he his useless for 80% of the game. He takes a slight bit of damage and he just stops playing for 2 to 3 seconds. He wastes his shield putting it on someone who's being fried, he's not ulting to save, he's not punishing people who over extend with his pull and he didn't even use it to push strange away when he ults. Nore did he use his bubble to deal massive tick damage. His awareness is ass and his aiming is worse. He just understands nothing and does nothing.

[@xandercobrand2680]

@@Nawthankstho I’m sorry for providing my opinion on the situation from the viewpoint that I have… I must’ve missed your constructive comment from a Top 500 perspective👀

[@shash8309]

Proposition: Elo hell vs Elo hell. Get two Gold players who say they deserve diamond, put them on opposite teams made up of diamond players, and one of them gets the title.

[@mazomort4127]

Would totally watch this lol

[@furiousedits3358]

This is a really entertaining concept i would 100% watch this

[@heroman1322]

👆

[@somerandomguy3251]

then it's a balanced team though. elo hell players believe they are better than there peers so they should go against those who are actually better

[@DyingBreed8]

They should have them talk trash before and loser gets pied in the face by a Jay3 dressed up like a chicken.

[@sycom-]

The difference between a low ranked support, and a high ranked support is mainly the small micro decisions and interactions, it’s easy to sit in the back and click your teammates, but the best supports maximize their ult value, they avoid getting picked off by saving their cooldowns for the right moment, their positioning is always very safe yet also impactful by having an angle to heal the entire team, there’s never downtime, if everyone is full health, they also try doing damage here and there. Every small decision adds up, you might not think about it, but if you are a support player, the next time you go into ranked, always question your decision making in every moment, when you die, try to think of a way that it could have been avoided. You’ll start to climb once you stop blaming teammates and focus on your own mistakes.

[@Mral236d]

True but that’s the same with every role in every rank. I main dps and I’ve come across plat players with just as good of aim as in my gm/celestial lobbies, but their cooldown cycle management, game sense, and positioning is awful. Being just a heal bot for support or just a sharpshooter dps can only get you ranked up so much

[@VeryLittleGuy]

"I'm stuck in elo hell" says the mantis who jumped into a peni mine stack (it's me, I'm the mantis) but unironically just questioning my decision making has boosted my rank by several divisions without any mechanical improvement

[@RetroRetro23]

I thought he didn’t understand IW’s kit. But nah, he understands but he just panicked too many times to where he did absolutely nothing. He is in the rank he deserves to be.

[@jemany2381]

I also think he doesn't understand some more subtle things about IW's kit. He's constantly having his shield out for no reason, even when it's not fully charged. Why not retract and recharge it when the shield is just dangling in thin air at 90 health? It's not a horrible mistake but one of the things where you can finetune

[@MarkNolan-v9t]

I'm sorry but you're right about him doing nothing but he definitely does not understand her kit 😂

[@alpacarie]

As someone who mains invisible woman, he needs to be more aggressive with her and play close with the team. Yeah sure it’s fine to stay in the back lines to play safe. But it’s important to stay in range. He also needs to use his shields properly. He keeps putting them up and not letting them regenerate.

[@cccbbbaaa110]

Nah he is a console frog he just can't compete with actual players

[@sachiellovesyou]

dawg the amount of times i screamed "USE YOUR ULT, YOU'RE PLAYING INVISIBLE WOMAN."

[@mhuhu]

I'm a PC player so maybe biased, but that kind of gameplay looks like gold at best. There's a lot that can be improved on, positioning, ability usage, even basic healing to name a few. Here are few example of things he could be doing: - You playing slightly too far from your teamates most of the time, and healing through shield spam more than through right click spam because of it. Right click heals way faster. - always call back your shield when it's no longer needed on the field so it regenerates to full. when full you can place it again. - in defense, when no-one needs it in the frontline or for a last second save, place shield on a nearby teamate in the back when its full and place it outside enemy LOS so you/your teammate can go back to it to heal without needing you targeting them with right click (allows you to focus heal other frontliners in the meantime). Can also be used to protect yourself/others from flankers/divers if they know where it's placed at. Peaking angle is often a good place to put down a shield at. (Obviously use shield on teammates that are about to die even if it means removing from where it was places before) - Same thing but in offense, you can also place shield behind the payload and reposition as it's moving forward ofc. This allow you to self heal safely without relying on invis while staying active and healing teammates that are actively peaking/frontlining. - use psionic vortex to denie angles of attack to enemies, a flying star lord ? vortex in the air (14:00). Flanking starlord/magic? vortex field the corner so they cannot peak anymore (example at 4:40 where star lord pushes you from the side, you should've vortex field so he cannot peak anymore, this almost got your loki/spiderman dead, which could've mean teamwipe since no healer would've been there to help frontlines anymore as you were so far back from the rest of the fight) - when you know strange has ult/is about to ult, keep psonic force in the backpocket to him push away when he cast it. If you don't know where it'll come because you lost sight of him, but hear the "eye of agamotto" voiceline, use ult instead instantly without second thoughts. - counter ult dagger's ult to prevent pushes, counter ult star lord so he cannot see shit, counter ult magic/bucky (few examples at 6:45, 6:57, 7:30, and unless loki counter ult himself ofc with luna/dagger or even your ult) - heal your teamates to full at all times (5:45 loki missing healt, you ignoring him, I know he can heal himself, but he's in front of you, just one example out of many) - Keep track of your divers/flankers at all times, they should be back in fight as soon as possible when coming back to you on low health. If they are safe behind a corner, just shield them, 1 or 2 right click for good measure while on your way back to focus on your frontline / other teamates - they can finish healing behind the shield. - you can use psionic force to push/pull enemy through your shield, it'll slow them and can setup for easy kills. Usually easy to pull off when you see a flank coming, place a shield on teammate that's about to get flanked, pull/push depending on the angle, vortex, then pick off the easy kill. Just some random thoughts on things you could improve on. Obviously feel free to adapt on the situation, experiment with things and good luck with the grind.

[@mickeyboy90]

Pc compared to console is like 1ish rank higher. imo the top console and top pc players probably less distance in skill. But in general a pc gold and console plat probably similar asf. At least according to ow. In my experience of ow (i assume rivals is similar) Ps:loki cant heal himself, only with rune which is usually a big waste if used for spam damage.

[@mhuhu]

@@mickeyboy90 I experience the same thing you describe about rank in other FPS type-like game (APEX Legend for example). I have played OW, but not grinding rank as it wasn't fun, just casually with friend or some deathmatch mode. True about the waste on loki's rune, I didn't mention it but I totally agree with you and it was exactly my thought process as well. Better heal your loki rather than not. Under pressure he might put his own heal on CD because we wasn't full health and it's a big waste, thx for pointing it out.

[@aecor8260]

​@@mickeyboy90 Loki can heal himself with his invisibility, but it requires too much time to be optimal

[@mickeyboy90]

@@aecor8260 i never realised loki healed in invis ty :)

[@Stephenmichaelwellness]

W comment very well thought out and constructive. I’m plat 1 on console and I’ll say he has some mechanical things he can do better. Placing a shield and shooting almost simultaneously would have helped him so much. He just needs more time in the game understanding how to multitask and move his fingers. I felt he was thinking what he was doing rather than just instinctively doing at times.

[@sccav]

I saw the first few minutes as a gm invisible woman main and knew this guy can’t hang. The second he didn’t pop ult when that strange ulted his team I had seen enough. Also he’s spamming that shield on his tank like a mad man

[@MythicAce218]

As someone who's learning Susan is always popped it like a normal heal ult(pushing/maintaining point) which does mean popping ult to kep team alive. I just don't know the perfect time to use HER ult in particular. Put even me as a low rank player wouldn't have waited that long to pop ult. I don't use her alot tho. Like that second ult? I would have ult on point the moment i saw my entire team was there. Or saved it to counter another ult Then again I think I'm a gold-low plat player. Need better aim positioning and better awareness

[@ShushantKhanal-d6q]

​@MythicAce218 As a support, it is a fine balance to know when to use it to push and when to use it to mitigate dps ult. Support's ults are game changer in this game and you can win team fights with just press of a button. I just watched till his first death and I know why he's ranked where he is. As soon as he heard the starlord scream, he should've used it. Tanks are getting pushed back, opposition is taking space and their dps is ulting. The Loki copied there to save the team. You see a Strange walking in straight line in the middle, he's gonna ult. He should've used it there. Apart from that, you see how the tanks were backing off. That means they are taking dmg and other tank is taking space. That's when support ukt helps (even w/o another team's dps ult) cause you are denying the space and chokepoints. Same goes for attacking, you ult to take space and chokes. There are 2 chokes at least in a map till the point. If you can get one then it is very hard for defending team to retake that forward position. Ult to push chokes. Supports build ult fast too so you'll have ult per choke if you play close to team, hit damage in between heals.

[@MythicAce218]

@ShushantKhanal-d6q yea i get ya. If it's a star lord or strange ult I'll ult to counter but I always like ult with whole team there. As you said the ults are game changers and if my whole team isn't with me now I feel like I just wasted an ult. Theres a few times where one or 2 teammates were with me and I ulted just to keep objective at a stand still(and them alive). now during that game i thought that was just a bad ult but maybe it wasn't. Also ukting for one or 2 dps when there entire team is there feels like a waste because now we are just holding point and by time the team gets there ult is already done. Again I think I'm a gold low plat player. My aim is inconsistent my positioning isn't always the best and I struggle to deal with backlines(f you magiks and BPs) but I'm also a flex. So I'm not GREAT at any particular role. I'm just good

[@demonsdoe6431]

I would have pushed the strange honestly seems better

[@sccav]

@@demonsdoe6431 also a good strategy if he doesn’t end up getting your teammates still

[@huynguyengia689]

Bro looked at Winter solider hopping on the sky like 3 times and still didnt want to ult

[@chawmila]

Brother is lucky he got gold. Hes scared to move up a bit, he just stands there and as soon as he sees someone close he jumps back leaving his team with less healing. Only reason he is gold is bc his aim isnt terrible imo

[@DragonGMB]

I play rocket together with the tanks around the payload, that thing provides so much cover, there is no need to become afraid if your team is playing well and you trust them.

[@McleanJ]

he actually hit plat 3 lol

[@Mr_shwifty_293]

@@McleanJyeah he said he’s lucky to get gold not lucky he got plat

[@vishalahmad-ck6cu]

Theguys in gold 3 are not using the space I create when I play tank

[@MxMoondoggie]

This is painful to watch, they look terrified because they care more about their own stats than anything else. They play like they'll die irl if they die in game lol. This is actually really common with supports in Gold and why a lot of them go on about flankers and not getting peel from their team....Because they play a mile behind their team and run into corners when pressured which makes them easy to kill.

[@measlesplease1266]

I think a lot of supports like this would improve by playing other roles, either dps so you understand what aggressive plays look like and how a healer can help, or a tank to get used to almost dying but being healed back to full and how that helps a tank.

[@cameronlong77]

This dude does not deserve a better rank he is a true gold

[@christianmcdade2400]

Gold is pushing it silver

[@Greazzy_G]

@@christianmcdade2400 ya gold on console maybe! I’m hard stuck plat1 on PC and this was a hard watch

[@Phloat]

Three major tips: 1) get used to cancelling your shield and don’t ever let it break. It regens faster if it doesn’t drop to 0. 2) Use your vortex on cooldown. And if you’re not getting hard dove all the time, use pull on cooldown. Otherwise you can save it to push divers but that doesn’t always save you. 3) always be looking at the enemy team comp and know ahead of time which ult you want to counter with your own. Starlord, Storm, and Groot are countered hard by Sue’s.

[@zhrprkp6732]

how do u cancel the shield? i thought u can only move it from hero to hero

[@67Zo]

@@zhrprkp6732on console it’s circle/B don’t know on pc

[@jasonsimpson8799]

One placed press F to recall it.

[@NoChylDyl]

As a hulk main ive been killed by invis womans pull so many times since it resets the timer on his jumps

[@vigour6786]

I'm not sure what rank you are but IW does not hard counter any of those characters you mentioned. As a celestial 2 player starlords and storms will always play outside of your range, sure you have the vortex but that won't do much if at all since both are mobile flying characters. Groot doesn't get countered by her either but the matchup is more balanced, his walls can block her abilities easily to reduce ult charge and her pull and push can mess up his walls placement. If you want to know her real strongest matchups they are against, Strange and Wolverine.

[@Shark__Sunny]

One thing people ignore with IW is damage blocked. By round 3 he had the lowest healing at below 27k sure, but he also had another 14.7k damage blocked. About 42k if you combine that. That being said, he's definitely playing too far away. Not using his ult. He needs to get in closer and start using that ult more. He's holding himself back.

[@67Zo]

He is far too passive especially for an Invisible Woman, he either needs to grow balls or swap to rocket.

[@dubbleohsavish5864]

Bros in Elo Heaven. He belongs in low Gold to high Silver. Super passive, very scared, and does not have the priorities down as a support

[@michaelcombs5502]

He should be gold or plat at best. Bad ult usage, cooldown management. Some times just doing literally nothing. He’s not in ELO hell because he deserves this rank easily. Maybe in time

[@mickeyboy90]

“Healbots” tend to naturally be a little boosted as healbotting is quite strong in this game. This player should definitely focus on using their abilities and ults WAY more though. Also feels like he doesn’t know that he can just hold shoot on invisible woman.

[@TheFruitycow]

It feels like when he gets pressured, he stops shooting and just runs away. Doesn't fight back, doesn't look for angles to help out or think of running to his team for help. It's good that he keeps himself alive, but he's also taking himself out of the fight for long periods of time while he's doing it. He's also super passive with his abilities.

[@AnyaBlackk]

Bro did a Pirate Software strat

[@Fallen_Star777]

A few minutes in and it's driving me crazy how he's not using his force pull or push. It does aoe damage and can help mitigate damage on your tanks or kidnap/displace enemies to help secure kills. Sometimes even a simple pull on a dps or tank can scare them off and create space for your team. Also Invis woman can be really aggresive because of her short cd jump and the fact she can heal tanks and dps at the same time with her primary fire, yet this guy is just playing so cowardly and timid in the backline. So many moments I saw in the first fight he could have pulled the enemy dps out of position, off the ledges, or pushed away the magik attacking the tanks. Like most low rank healers I see, he's just doing the bare minimum healbot playstyle. He'd be better off playing rocket racoon and just spamming heal orbs.

[@zs9652]

Yeah Sue is a more aggressive healer. She wants to help by putting out aoe damage and taking space while keeping the shield alive for healing and critical moments.

[@vigour6786]

Yep, I'm celestial 2 IW and I always start the game with a vortex and a push/pull down the enemies to get some early ult charge. Both are on pretty short cooldowns to where by the time they're set up or trying to flank, I have both again. You're right, her pull is one of the most important abilities on maps with high ground when you can pull players off to get them out of position.

[@bofasofa9399]

The fact this kid never used his left trigger or left bumper spells makes me think he should actually be demoted to silver

[@ilovemesomevideogame]

About 8 minutes in and as a support main in most games, I'd say his biggest issue is playing scared. He's playing way too far back on a character whose primary fire has a limited range, he's not trying to make plays with the boop/yoink, and he's saving ult for phase 10 of the MCU out of fear of wasting it (and the two problems I mentioned result in him getting way less ults than he should). That said, bro did say he's fairly new to hero shooters so I understand why that fear is there. If he can conquer that, I trust he can beat Elo Hell!

[@watnoisy1995]

I mean defending with Spider-Man is kinda wild

[@blahblah1501]

This is an interesting concept but I think it would have worked better if he wasn't on console and the ranks were at or just below where he thought he should be. With half the lobby being GMs he was going to struggle even if he really was good enough to be diamond 3, and having a GM there to tell him to ult isn't really representative of how good he actually is. I think it would have been more interesting to see something like 3 plats and 3 diamonds on each team (where he's one of the diamonds), then see how he compares against them.

[@yuhboy-k3r]

Kind of agree. With the skill floor in competitive being so low gold to gm is a MASSIVE difference

[@aurel3190]

that defeats the whole purpose of him saying he deserves a higher rank, diamond 3 and gm 3 is barely a difference, if he was good enough for diamond 3 or above he would have performed easily, he obviously wasnt playing good at all and just plays like an ordinary silver/gold, and thats where he belongs

[@yuhboy-k3r]

@aurel3190 if it's barely a difference why include it at all. it's just adding to an already monumental skill gap. Low console gold to PC gm there was 0 chance he would play well.

[@aurel3190]

@ well that's what obviously happened because the guy was a low console gold player, if he did infact deserve a higher rank he would have performed in that game by a mile

[@blahblah1501]

@ How would making him play against diamonds if he thinks he's a diamond defeat the purpose? And of course there's a big gap between diamond 3 and GM3 - there are far far more diamonds than GMs. Rivals tracker currently lists about 51k diamonds (31k are D3), vs 12k GMs (7.6k of which are GM3). If he plays against plats+diamonds then you get a good gauge. If he keeps up with the diamonds then he should be diamond. If he does as well as the plats then he should be plat. If he can't then he's gold. There's nothing to gain from measuring him against GMs.

[@ZeeCapp]

16:57 I’ll say it’s a lot harder to aim, shoot, jump, and get away on console than it is on PC. As a strategist main I feel the pain of doing everything you can but still dying or not doing enough, however he really didn’t try to shoot at all 😂

[@rtangxps9]

This guy is not in elo hell. This type of passive play with no initiative means that he has no control over the outcome which means he is where he should be.

[@cernos7230]

I think Rocket would fit him well since he likes to play really backline and he keeps on forgetting to turn off Barrier

[@justgaming4fun-]

I hear people saying this about rocket, but I’m so aggressive with him

[@measlesplease1266]

@@justgaming4fun- Yeah aggressive rockets are on a whole other level, but they can still have a massive impact at lower ranks by just healing. They're still total frauds most of the time.

[@kedoku7866]

he has a huge habit or ducking his head and running. like you absolutely cannot freak out.

[@doctorwooga]

As a fellow lord with Susan, while yes he should DEFINITELY have used his ult a lot more often to counter enemy ults, he said he’s never played hero shooters before so that may not be known to new players to this genre. Simple things like that to veterans like us, may be completely foreign to others.

[@whiteevan4323]

Well he’s lord with a new hero that was released this season, if he can’t figure it out then he’s def where he belongs

[@doctorwooga]

@whiteevan4323 no yeah for sure if he hasn’t learned that yet then yeah I’d say gold is where he belongs for now but I’m just saying to the people acting like he’s stupid for not ulting to counter enemy ults might not realize how that’s not obvious to new players to this genre. But that’s why he deserves gold haha

[@HuyVo-gd2cj]

I love this kind of content. I remember I submitted my Masters Tank VOD one time to a OW streamer and they roasted my entire lobby.

[@evanorozco4417]

Invisible woman can get her ult back so fast yet this dude refuses to use it truly a bronze player how he even got into gold is beyond me

[@Sendoh.153]

He most likely got carried to gold somehow by semi good teammates

[@restless5996]

He was using his shield to heal more than his primary fire

[@machinayrequiem8596]

Doing that is fine because it burst heals faster. The thing is cancelling it so it doesnt break after. Ill mainly use my shield to heal flyers. I can throw it on them real quick and then continue to heal others at the same time. If someone is critical then Ill throw shield on them and primary fire to heal them faster and then cancel my shield to use it else where.

[@restless5996]

@machinayrequiem8596 i meant more like he was just kind of sitting around doing nothing while the shield was on cooldown, like just waiting for it to be back up instead of healing

[@machinayrequiem8596]

@@restless5996 Oh I got you.

[@Bobbyhill4]

This guy isn’t in Elo hell . He is elo hell

[@axlzx9701]

He might need to practice a bit more. It is console different to pc. But loki out healed IW because he kept using her ult. There were many situations where i was thinking popping ult here will save 2 allies and keep the fight going, while having the other strategiest ult as back up. Also its smart to play around building and walls,but he was in my opinion a bit far. His fire/heal would go through multiple targets had he been closer and not hitting the max range to reach one character at a time. Maybe alternate between hitting the floor for the fast return and hit multiple allies/enemies. Thats just my take, and be a bit aggressive too.

[@brandonmantell296]

"im gonna do my best tim impression" im over here just casually chillin playing no mans sky and jay says that and i look over and bros eating lmao im dying laughing lmaooo

[@yoboyraj9994]

He could’ve counter ulted like 4 times he belongs in plat ngl

[@kingj2438]

gold

[@vohbe]

Gold ngl

[@MayankGupta-th3wt]

He should be silver lmao. He didn't pop his ult till they reached 2nd point. Terrible way to play any strategist

[@IfonlyIwassmaller]

Gold 3 fr

[@BearShot]

@@MayankGupta-th3wtright GM players would get so mad if he was up there

[@R1L1.]

Nah he should be happy with what he is working with. He is not carrying his team he is not svp most of his games, to climb you need be diffing hard and standing out. Rn bro has no presence, too scared + too average. He is like 1 step better than running down mid with muscle memory. And honestly I don't blame him he is new too hero shooter, and he is decent for how much time he has in game. And the ult usage you already pointed out. Ults make or break the game, one ult won't change the game, but support ults being so good if you waste every ult then its just lost by default.

[@cameronlong77]

This dude is so scared holy f

[@inmysystem007]

I was playing with a kid on pc he said he needed help and I’ve been helping him. He is also a healer and he mains cloak and he had the same problem. I told him about counter ulting and he didn’t understand it until he actually did it when I told him too he did it every time after that and he realized how much space he could create even if he popped it one second after the other cloak small things make a big difference in these games

[@johnny0sksux]

It should have been console only considering there isn't crossplay in ranked

[@Ad_Fundumm]

Agreed, maybe something for future videos to keep console and PC apart. Theres probably also a difference between a plat pc player and a plat console player.

[@eddyboyyy1296]

One of the diamonds in the other team was a playstation player so no excuses there

[@angelsibrian5085]

imo there’s really not that much difference in skill with console vs pc. Aiming is very important in Ow but since this is 6v6 on rivals some missed shots are more lenient. It really comes down to reaction , positioning & awareness. Dude lacks that , nothing to do with aiming.

[@SoyNerobot]

Some feedback. He was coming in with a BIG ego saying he deserves to be higher than plat or diamond, and at the end you basically lifted his ego telling him that he only made 2 mistakes. He is deserving of being gold, thats the only truth, he didn't manage his ult, his positioning was awful. Sometimes breaking egos can help people improve QUICK

[@BubbleExCore]

title and thumbnail don't match

[@shxdwsohyea7973]

could be a mess up from how early the vid is

[@crystianfernando2370]

it matches now?

[@BubbleExCore]

@@crystianfernando2370 it said grandmaster on release

[@darkblue099]

I haven't even started the video yet, but I just wanna say, as a gold looking to climb, I'm glad you made this vid, if only so I can see examples of some of the stuff that may be holding me back. Thanks brother!

[@sabereaseera1384]

Bro is not in elo hell. He is a gold player through and through

[@mooncow1072]

Dont even think gold is his rank, his team def carries him in games

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

Anyone who is Lord and below Diamond is definitely a red flag. They spent SO MUCH time on a character, and are still lower ranked…

[@JapChaeJan]

Lord just means you played a character for "x" amount of time. Unless Rivals comes out with a new icon system for ranked only, it really doesn't mean anything outside of a bit more experience with that particular character.

[@yungslack7311]

Low elo strategists are the worst players they act like victims and cannot be told Tanks and dps get angry but can be reasoned with from a play standpoint Most strategists are just terrified noobs like the above Then if you say anything they act like they have been physically assaulted

[@bshillings2228]

As a sue main, he's gotta get up in there. Her kit revolves around being a mid range support her normal attack is on a boomerang and does double healing with a 30m range. To get the max amount of healing you want to stick clise to your tanks to heal while picking damage from your opponents while the tanks tank. Some of my favorite tanks to play with are thor venom and hulk because you can just stack assists and kills because they are very in your face tanks. Then you can push or pull the opposing team to help your tanks get that kill if theyre trying to run, or save them if theyre being smothered. Then usuing your burst to cut off people trying to flank or to stack even more damage. Sue can really control the flow of tge battle as long as you have a good team that helps you play to her strengths. Not to mention her ult will save you from just about every other ult in the game minus a couple. I love usuing it to stop storm, star lord, and punisher ults. Also that dreaded moon night ult. Moon night can still take you out though if multiple ults are popping. The other 3 litterally get stopped in their tracks even when multiple ults pop off. Aiming at the feet is a god tip if you're being targeted by a dive character but for maximum heals its best when you aim right at your team because youre usually able to heal multiple teammates at once.

[@gloriarominahernandeznoriega]

Right? He said the positioning was good but I can't disagree more. Maybe for a Luna Snow would be ok, but IW's kit is mid range as you said! And from all the way back there most of the time the abilities are not even in range.

[@blitevv5719]

I think he deserves gold, he plays according to his rank

[@ohbeeh1498]

Brother proved in the first push why he’s in gold lmao

[@Carnage4k]

I can say with certainty this guy deseves silver or less

[@berkay6947]

Definitely not.

[@Carnage4k]

@@berkay6947 Definitely yes I'm GM i know a trash player when i see one lol

[@berkay6947]

@Carnage4k the fact that you are gm makes you worse for understanding how bad a silver player is. He is definitely not silver. Silvers are the ones who pick ironman or spiderman regardless of team composition because they are their favorite heroes. They just press q regardless of the situation when their ult is ready. They run 5 dps 1 healer. That's silver. This guy is above silver.

[@harleygunn4783]

As someone who went from gold to being 1 win away from diamond just yesterday, the competition is hardly more competitive

[@ext1ncc898]

currently sitting in diamond 3, gold was harder to get out of than plat elo hell exists

[@nakajapasan]

On GM he is gonna be cooked kk his positioning is very scared, if the divers were playing for real he was going to be dead most of the game, feels like they chose a team not to bully him too much

[@cameronlong77]

Y is he doing nothing so often it’s really Frustrating

[@animusblazer5800]

This is my first time viewing a Jay3 video that isn't a clip of the "There's a bug on you" meme. Honestly surprised by his reaction, well put criticism and advice on where the player needs to improve upon. Cool vid!

[@dalawuk6729]

Needs to ult more, dont play so safe. Go for plays, pull people innto your team more and push them away more. She has really short cooldowns.. isnt aware that when they say 'I have loki shift' they can stay near the clones or the loki because it means they'll put up lamp. They ran away from it when the starlord ulted.. Its good to value your own life, just.. do that within the fight. If your too far to do anything you staying alive looses its value.. This is a gold player.

[@youcanttieyourshoes472]

I’m currently gold after the reset and I haven’t played much but I swear gold is better than this like this is low silver on pc Mayb it’s just I’m in Asia too idk

[@rabbit7261]

as a support in Diamond, when he understands how to ult he can and will climb, maybe some positioning improvement with a touch of extra game knowledge and he's good.

[@HuyVo-gd2cj]

Is it balanced to have a console player playing with and against PC players? Mouse & keyboard switch for console is considered cheating by Marvel Rivals and there are active bannable offense.

[@kakarott545]

Bro quick play matches both pc and console players together as well are u stupid

[@carnagerulez312]

I'm on PC using a PS5 controller, you get the rank you deserve. The only advantage is if you start using hacks 😂🤣😂🤣

[@MrMellowss]

@@carnagerulez312if someone plays black widow with a mouse and keyboard in console lobbies they would dominate, that goes for hela and Hawkeye too, look up xim

[@Oibble]

It's not just the controller tho​@@carnagerulez312

[@irblizzaga5890]

Reminder that YOU are the only constant in your lobbies. If you're complaining about bad teammates consistently, it's likely that you are one. Main character syndrome.

[@uncoolbarrel8542]

I don’t feel it’s possible to be stuck in any rank or call Elo hell below at least GM

[@Eikkaaaa]

Damn brother ur lost

[@NovaGaming-l7f]

I don’t think you know what the term Elo hell means

[@uncoolbarrel8542]

@@NovaGaming-l7f Elo hell doesn’t really exist in this game yet just play more it’s impossible to not rank up it’s a new game guarantee play 100 games of comp and ur gonna be diamond minimum realistically higher if you think ur in “Elo hell” then ur teammates suck so just play a character stronger than the others and u will still climb

[@uncoolbarrel8542]

@Eikkaaaa I think ur lost because I genuinely assure you that if u just play comp it’s guaranteed to rank up until like I said at least high diamond or more than likely GM

[@Eikkaaaa]

@@uncoolbarrel8542 hahahah no, look at the lfg servers they're filled with hardstuck golds and plats

[@Doughja710]

Healers that focus healing you while your at full health and watch the fight happen Infront of them are the worst like bruh help me fight.

[@HandlesL]

0 comments Jay3 fell off

[@MaddssznFN]

you commented tho, twice.

[@HandlesL]

@@MaddssznFNthats what jay3’s editor wants you to think im afraid

[@dains6623]

4 likes in 2 min HandlesL fell off

[@smart7927]

Considering supports get ults like nothing in this game, it’s very detrimental to pop ult especially if you’re getting pushed by an enemies ult and they’re just rushing your back line into oblivion. Some people still require more than a Lord on a certain character, it’s all about game sense, awareness, positioning, and knowing what strengths your team has while playing on a support like Sue especially. Maybe Gold is the best he can do and there’s a reason why.

[@Jk980fgc]

I saw immediately when he was not picking his shield back up to recharge it during downtime that he was where he needed to be. He is also too scared and backed out of range of his own heals. Both things I noticed by at least 6:08

[@troytexasfight]

Lmao yes bring this series back!

[@etchyo]

My guy, I have been gm/challenger in many mobas. "good teammates" dont exist, people still will throw or rage, just in subtle ways, act egotistical (sometimes even moreso at higher elo), and troll like they are a bronze player "for fun". It never changes lol.

[@notorioushacker221]

This is the same with Adam players tbh , Some support look for that big saving ult rather then just doing it and killing one or 2 enemies and the reset can be picked off or they back off

[@kijo572]

This guy would crumble in real diamond lobbies lol.

[@DemonicTutor666]

Gm support player here. I'm going to give the best advice on when to ult, and it's crazy simple. Ask yourself this question when you have ult: "Are my teammates about to die?" If yes, then ult. If not, then save ult. If it seems like your team is being pushed back and you're losing the fight, just ult.

[@user-gn8wr3dn1k]

key things: 1. not ulting to counter 2. his primary heals & damages at the same time; 40% of the time he's barely healing his teammates and 90% of the time doing no dmg 3. playing wayy too passively 4. sometimes just doesnt heal teammates standing infront of him 5. not realizing sue can actually 1v1 pretty decently out of stealth and calling out teammates for help on dives vs. just sitting in stealth

[@wethotgrass]

Besides adult errors, he just panic activates his push back

[@kalydoscopic-ws6dq]

I do have a small argument for saving ultimates. Most of the time I do agree that you should use it as often as you find an optimal opportunity, however in my case as a magneto, I save it to counter ults like punisher or cloak and dagger.

[@Thajig]

Im sitting here screaming “ULT ULT”😭

[@groscartheouch]

Just got to GM with Invis as my most played and yeah this guy deserves gold. Playing so scared. Ult usage is one of the most important things as a support and he barely used his.

[@DadsGame2]

Supports ults literally win fights which is HUGE in this game!

[@swifti1001]

He's definitely a "KDA player". The type to play as safe as possible so they can play the blame game at the results screen.

[@akeuten22]

Just found your channel, HUGE fan of this type of content. Keep it up!

[@codieburns9217]

Been waiting for this series! I just didn’t wanna ask 😅😂😂

[@ajushe]

IW kit relies on being reactive to other players and it didn’t seem like he was able to react with the pace of a higher elo game. He had his force push activated many times thinking he might need to push someone during a team fight but didn’t even use resulting in down time when he could have been healing/damaging. He’s in the right elo

[@Killerbrew]

was a top 10 world wide ranked arena player in apex legends, top 50 world wide ranking on PUBG, top 100 in OG MW 2 on xbox 360, etc etc and am sooo hard stuck solo queuing at gold 1 it is freaking ridiculous. ofcourse not enough time to play now days like I used to but damnit man, why does this game torture me so bad lol. Everytime I get 1 game away from ranking up, turns into a losing streak until I almost drop to gold 2 then rinse and repeat.

[@Pedstoxic]

Healer be saving those ult for next game

[@bluedeathbuny77]

lol anyone who says they are stuck in "gold" you either are getting the short end of the stick and you're getting MVP/ SVP every game. OR you're probably not playing well enough to carry to a higher rank, which means you're probably in the rank you belong in ( at least currently). I would say "i'm average" and I just hit Plat 3 with like 40 games, 30 wins 10 losses.

[@nybraschanter7265]

Being in gold I enjoy this series for lower or higher leagues too

[@stoatthemammal]

when the groot ulted him and he legit stopped moving i got a lil mad, no healing, no damage not even looking around its like he just gave up.

[@DarWeezy26]

OMG this guy not popping his ult is KILLING ME LOL

[@windthugness]

I was always a diamond/super low masters player in OW, currently Plat 2 in Rivals, and this ult holding crap happens a lot in bronze-plat in both games. It’s so frustrating when the enemy team is pushing you and your team has 4 ults and no one uses it to hold point. Also how this player as a support holding his defensive ult that could’ve saved his team numerous times.

[@boonegotgame]

I just wanna say damage blocked matters that’s part of invisible woman. He had less deaths and blocked more

[@yuhboy-k3r]

He had less deaths because he was playing kda and barely healing his team. If you are alive more you have more uptime to get stats. Unless you are 0/15 the leaderboard will never tell you the real story.

[@derekwarren1687]

It’s funny how this portrays high Elo lobbies as communicating a lot I barley hear a peep in grandmaster most of the time

[@zs9652]

I have noticed no one likes to talk aside from flamers mostly.

[@OttermaticFire]

Ngl he is where he should be ELO wise. He isnt crashing his own shield to have it regen full health when not using it/not in a team fight. He also could be using it to protect the other support (protecting himself at the same time) so that he can stand a bit closer and use the boomerang effect of IW for dos and heals at the same time… this coming from a gold IW main who truly thinks they are in ELO hell lol

[@Kaspa_C]

These are the healers that swear there doing amazing!!!

[@RainlandRaydog]

I want to say the groot and loki players are insanely good. Always boxing their only one tank after team swap. This kind of content is great to watch. Giving positive feedback. And I agreed that this player can be plat.

[@kuromiiibby]

yeah as a gm3 player (i peaked gm1 in season 0) mantis main, i’ve had my games with sue he probably deserves high plat, his gameplay isn’t bad just his ult usage once he fixes that then he can hit diamond

[@EddieMythics]

Gold to GM is a huge gap kinda hard to expect someone in gold to perform way good in a GM lobby lmao

[@P3rtzel]

Gm 3 to gm 1 is huge on its own

[@DimeszTV]

Omg this gameplay was so painful. When I was in metal ranks I use my ults as soon as they came up on support. Holding them is the worse thing you can do, also as far as his positioning… idk I personally play nut to butt with my tanks obviously positioning is situational but being that far back isn’t great especially with sue

[@_aceofspades_]

It's hard to say where he should be since he's in CONSOLE ranked, which objectively is far worse for all the lower ranks but on PC ranked he should be in silver-low gold. The only reason he barely won the first game was because the Namor and Loki hard carried the team. After the team switch he got stomped. He doesnt know when to use his ult. He holds his ults for too many fights. He often isnt doing anything when he has teammates he could heal. Invisible woman can heal and damage at the same time and has escapes, so he shouldnt be playing so far back.

[@Apoxolypse]

from what I can see, the reason the loki is able to do so much healing and damage is because the other team seems to focus the invisible women when they jump into the back line. this guys play is allowing their loki to do work. That being said, He's way too passive with his ults for sure.

[@listlie]

Not rly… it’s mainly due to invisible woman playing away from the team much more often. And when they do dive her and she goes invisible, they immediately switched targets so it’s not like they were specifically hunting her down

[@BraTheEle]

Very interesting video concept I would appreciate more time where you bring him into the call and hear his thoughts and what he thinks he did well/ not well with maybe 1 member from each of the teams.