this harmony in Bach is INSANE 😲 | Evan Shinners

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Жыл бұрын

Evan Shinners shares his discoveries around a particularly surprising chord in Bach's Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue, BWV 903.
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@herbertbeiderbecke
@herbertbeiderbecke Жыл бұрын
it's sounds like something from a modern composer. That's why Bach was an absolute genius.
@BluesDivinity
@BluesDivinity Жыл бұрын
By modern do you mean classical? Most modern composers don’t stray too much further out from the pentatonics
@nezkeys79
@nezkeys79 Жыл бұрын
Well the same could be said of Debussy since his music is littered with chords found in modern jazz music
@Quim141
@Quim141 Жыл бұрын
Bach and Debussy music is sepparated like 150 years so...
@nezkeys79
@nezkeys79 Жыл бұрын
@@Quim141 what about folk songs that sound like they were influenced by greensleeves lol
@leomilani_gtr
@leomilani_gtr Жыл бұрын
Proto-impressionism!
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
Bach, during his time-travels, must have snuffed that chord from Bill Evans
@cmusic2365
@cmusic2365 Жыл бұрын
I would love to like this comment, but I would feel bad to change the like-counter from 69
@philipmateo3816
@philipmateo3816 Жыл бұрын
Or bill evans got it from Bach during that same trip
@leomilani_gtr
@leomilani_gtr Жыл бұрын
And Bill snuffed it from Debussy, I guess...
@jaikee9477
@jaikee9477 Жыл бұрын
Brahms wasn't kidding when he said "Study Bach! There you'll find literally EVERYTHING!"
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess Жыл бұрын
😂😂LOL😂😂 touchè
@ratboygenius
@ratboygenius Жыл бұрын
The problem is solved when you consider Bach didn't call them "chords". They are intervals above a bass that are moving horizontally and resolving by step. So many Bach pieces can sound like they have "wrong" notes if you stop in the wrong place.
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho Жыл бұрын
the lost art of counterpoint
@guitarplayerfactorychannel
@guitarplayerfactorychannel Жыл бұрын
Interesting. They didn't use the word 'chords'? The triads and added tones were obviously in use. Did they have a different name ?
@7riXter
@7riXter Жыл бұрын
@@guitarplayerfactorychannel You don’t need to describe „chords“ or using another word for it when every „voice“ has it’s own movement/tension/line. The example is clearly a point in a piece where a resolution is approached. Anyway… of cause there also were „chords“ back then.
@dead_yellow
@dead_yellow Жыл бұрын
Hi ratboygenius ily❤
@MaggaraMarine
@MaggaraMarine Жыл бұрын
While I generally agree with this, the chord in question is really weird, even when you take the context into account - not something you typically find from Bach's music. I think the most plausible explanation is that the copyists made a typo. They probably missed some accidentals (E natural). The C in the middle is quite strange too, when you combine it with the Db on top. Typically this kind of weird harmonies are simply the result of suspensions, but that's not what's going on here. BTW, this is not just a random isolated harmony from a more polyphonic context - this is from a section that is very "chordal".
@mr.rul0005
@mr.rul0005 Жыл бұрын
My boy Johan was laying some Proto-Jazz back in the 1700's 😎
@MaxIsBackInTown
@MaxIsBackInTown 10 ай бұрын
lol definitely not
@elias7748
@elias7748 9 ай бұрын
@@MaxIsBackInTownit kind of is. Its Almis like Bach improvised
@rientsdijkstra4266
@rientsdijkstra4266 9 ай бұрын
@@elias7748 He did. People like Bach and Mozart where GREAT improvisors!
@davidtrevino8202
@davidtrevino8202 6 ай бұрын
No
@ricsouza5011
@ricsouza5011 4 ай бұрын
sounds like debussy tbh
@tunabomber111
@tunabomber111 Жыл бұрын
Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue in D minor BWV 903
@Kazarijyanainoyonamidawa
@Kazarijyanainoyonamidawa Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@HuggumsMcgehee
@HuggumsMcgehee Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
@TNTErick
@TNTErick Жыл бұрын
thank you kind sir
@TiagoCavalcanti-ji6hu
@TiagoCavalcanti-ji6hu Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I was able to recognize the excerpt, and that's my fav piano piece. Never saw a 'mistake' there; rather, as you say, it has some special weight for sure, but this piece is the trickiest one I've seen (I'm no pianist, I play the guitar, but I study on the piano). Cheers!
@stephenvanwijk9669
@stephenvanwijk9669 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@matheusbenini9707
@matheusbenini9707 Жыл бұрын
I always find funny how classical pianists say "this chord is a monstruosity" and them you hear and yeah it's a chord with dissonance but they say it like it's some sound an elder god could only produce and it's C9
@Emanuel-Turhani
@Emanuel-Turhani 10 ай бұрын
Its because this music is deep and spiritual
@marni3155
@marni3155 10 ай бұрын
well it’s about context! in the baroque era (as far as I know) the harmonies weren’t typically like that, so this chord would be strange. But if like.. Debussy wrote it, no one would bat an eye
@FreeBrunoPowroznik
@FreeBrunoPowroznik 10 ай бұрын
C9 is dissonant? 😂
@procyon6445
@procyon6445 10 ай бұрын
@@Emanuel-Turhanioh please
@OdaKa
@OdaKa 10 ай бұрын
​@@FreeBrunoPowroznikyes,
@neirinski
@neirinski Жыл бұрын
“Oohh that sounds expensive” P. McCartney
@TNTErick
@TNTErick Жыл бұрын
"Oohhh spicy!" Adam Neely
@117iwhbyd7
@117iwhbyd7 11 ай бұрын
Nuno's great. didn't expect to find a fan here. lol
@simonshusse
@simonshusse 2 ай бұрын
Remember that Bach improvised much of what is written down. He didn’t overthink this, it probably came to him during a session. Amazing.
@EyeLean5280
@EyeLean5280 Жыл бұрын
Hearing that chord in isolation, it sounds very mid-20th century postwar era, particularly the compositions of Fred Rogers (yes, Mr. Rogers from TV).
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Жыл бұрын
No way Mr. Rogers also had a composition carreer! I tought playing piano only.
@WBensburg
@WBensburg Жыл бұрын
@@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Nearly every song you hear from his 'Neighborhood' was written by him.
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Жыл бұрын
@@WBensburg I knew he was a pianist, which almost all pianist compose music, how stupid of me as musician and composer to not saw that.
@WBensburg
@WBensburg Жыл бұрын
@@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Not at all!! Very few know of Mr. Rogers's background in music. He was a music major at Rollins College in Central Florida.
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin Жыл бұрын
@@WBensburg Understandble, i have a bad memory so i couldve forgotten, i always focus on the background music wherever i am. I havent heard of Mr. Rogers in a long time.
@blender_wiki
@blender_wiki 10 ай бұрын
I did my thesis in Musicology around Bach Harmony and more you go deep in the rabbit hole more you are amazed by the Bach Genius.
@JackSimonot
@JackSimonot Ай бұрын
That sounds incredible! would you be willing to pass on some sources you read that you found interesting?
@LeVezz
@LeVezz Жыл бұрын
It's because of voice leading , you can't say it's weird when you don't see the motions of the 4-5 voices that are before that chord. Oftentime (always) , his "added notes" come from the last chord and are resolved in the next . It could be because of a chromatic upscent or descent also.
@thebenevolentsun6575
@thebenevolentsun6575 Жыл бұрын
He's not saying it's a "bad" chord he's saying it's a bizarre chord to find in a baroque piece.
@stefanmirica6485
@stefanmirica6485 Жыл бұрын
@@thebenevolentsun6575 the comment is not saying it's an issue of chords, it's saying it's an issue of chromaticism or passing notes.
@thebenevolentsun6575
@thebenevolentsun6575 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanmirica6485 yes but the harmony itself is still bizarre to find in a baroque piece.
@slatebook2384
@slatebook2384 Жыл бұрын
@@thebenevolentsun6575 Bach does "choral", it's Counterpoint not Harmony (classical era). You are supposed to hear each voice not to think them as chords. As a result, if you play it as chords, you'll be amazed by the complexity of the "Harmony", still despite the inspiration each voice follows a precise and coded path, rules are numerous in Counterpoint.
@thebenevolentsun6575
@thebenevolentsun6575 Жыл бұрын
@@slatebook2384 It's still strange to find in a baroque piece though.
@ach2lieber
@ach2lieber 6 ай бұрын
Bach's dissonant chords are like jewels, especially in the toccatas and partitas. I play some of them over and over.
@r0d3r1cvs
@r0d3r1cvs 4 ай бұрын
That's actually "La Quinte Superflue", an augmented 5th over the "III grade" in the minor scale. You can find it in Dandrieu's Teatrise, or in Couperin preludes and a bunch of music from the same time 👍
@someonespecial1329
@someonespecial1329 Жыл бұрын
Bach was jazzy af
@LeoDurman11
@LeoDurman11 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting a really dissonant chord when he said that but then he played it and I was like I listen to too much jazz
@pjbpiano
@pjbpiano Ай бұрын
@@LeoDurman11, it is only dissonant for him because he has made certain associations.
@elizabethscott7660
@elizabethscott7660 2 ай бұрын
it's why Bach is truly my favourite composer
@michaelsmith697
@michaelsmith697 Ай бұрын
Bach is an extremely special composer. Playing his music still gives me joy. I’m almost 70 and played him first at age 17. His music is so satisfying to play. I love his tierce de picardis! ( piece in a minor key which ends in its major key - gives an uplifting to the heavens feeling)
@H4RLM
@H4RLM Жыл бұрын
That chord is gorgeous
@donaldaxel
@donaldaxel 3 ай бұрын
It is an E flat minor with added six - Ebm6 - with the third in the bass, so - Ebm6/Gb - and the top voice has a D flat, the seventh of Eb minor which advances stepwise to the seventh of the following F dominant seven chord; in normal notation Ebm6/gb - F7 which is a Phrygian cadence. The sharpness comes from the C clashing with the top voice D flat; that is the Ebm 6th clashing with the Ebm 7th above. However, an Ebm6 - F7 is a common Phrygian cadence.
@johnslater8998
@johnslater8998 Ай бұрын
Why Eb? He doesn’t give the key signature, so I guess you know the piece? I assumed the E was natural, making it just a C7 flat 9.
@willmorris8198
@willmorris8198 Ай бұрын
​I think the chord is a C half-diminished b9 in second inversion. The notes from bottom to top are Gb, Bb, C, Eb, Db (I excluded the doubled Bb). If you stack those in root position from C you get C, Eb, Gb, Bb, Db. This is a half diminished chord with an added b9th. Of course the Gb is in the bass which makes it a second inversion. I don't think the root is Eb because that would make C a non chord tone. I think all the written notes are chord tones since it's written as a blocked chord. But honestly I don't think Bach really cared about how the chord would be labeled, as much as he did about counterpoint and the intervals in between each note. ​@@johnslater8998 It's Eb because the Eb from the previous chord carries over because they're in the same measure. Same with the Gb.
@donaldaxel
@donaldaxel Ай бұрын
@@willmorris8198 :: Yes, your label and what Bach cared about, yes, agree! :) There is a recording (Trevor Pinnock, harpsichord) where the player makes the arpeggios very expressive. That, I think, is the way to go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXfRkK2MhNF3d9E I was wrong, though, about the added notes, Pinnock plays pretty much note for note.
@willmorris8198
@willmorris8198 Ай бұрын
@@donaldaxel Yeah, Evan in this video even added a passing tone C at the top of the chord. Or maybe, since we have deduced that it is not only a chord tone but the root, it is not a passing tone. It sure sounds like one though lol.
@johnslater8998
@johnslater8998 Ай бұрын
@@willmorris8198 - Ah yes of course. Thanks
@kitstr
@kitstr Жыл бұрын
Sounds wonderful.
@ExAnimoPortugal
@ExAnimoPortugal 3 ай бұрын
Bach pushed the boundaries of harmony. 300 years ago.
@FreeMoney-13
@FreeMoney-13 Жыл бұрын
Bach was very dense in his harmonies, and many people interpret it differently. That's nearly what makes his music so great
@vayasaberlo8
@vayasaberlo8 7 ай бұрын
Bach was so ahead of his time🎉
@nathanaelhahn4795
@nathanaelhahn4795 Жыл бұрын
You know he's sophisticated because he says "baCHXHC"
@dxdtee
@dxdtee Жыл бұрын
Whoa...I went to high school with Evan. He was and is so talented! He even sold me a burned CD of his recordings back then. Mind blown. So happy to see him thriving! 🤯🙌
@catkeys6911
@catkeys6911 Жыл бұрын
It might look crazy on paper and when you're trying to play it, but when you hear it, it makes perfect sense.
@thelostartofcounterpoint8648
@thelostartofcounterpoint8648 11 ай бұрын
It is indeed "strange" for this era, but it is less strange and more understandable if we read the music horizontally/contrapuntally. These chords must been seen as multiple part harmony, where each note comes from a previous one and goes to the next one. The concept of a chord is here just a "frozen" moment in the contrapuntal texture. Like one filmshot. It can create strange dissonances if we analyze them just vertically. Bach thinks horizontally in different layers. The "chords" are snapshots. Check my channel if you're interested in voice leading and counterpoint!
@indioduran4535
@indioduran4535 Жыл бұрын
John Mulaney is a great musician
@groezy
@groezy Жыл бұрын
doesn't look too much like mulaney to me, but his vocal mannerisms sound so much like him
@tambetott626
@tambetott626 Жыл бұрын
Doctor Who (David Tenant)
@Clarity-808
@Clarity-808 10 ай бұрын
Sounds EXACTLY like him! Brilliant 😂
@longlifetometal1995
@longlifetometal1995 11 ай бұрын
Ayyyy priorizing melodic lines over harmonic stability leads sometimes to spicy chords that aren't meant to be considered as structural chords in the sense of the term used here but standard voice leading in the late-Baroque period. Who would've thought.
@buddyfm7001
@buddyfm7001 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely beautiful
@awakenwithoutcoffee
@awakenwithoutcoffee Жыл бұрын
beautiful chord from I believe the Chromatic fantasy ? I do like to add the thought that Bach loved the "space" in between the notes , the counterpoint allowed him the utmost expression possible. It is why I personally love Baroque and Classical music so much, even moreso than the romantic greats.
@leomilani_gtr
@leomilani_gtr Жыл бұрын
I heard the fantasy and it sounds nothing like it. I need to know what is this piece.
@awakenwithoutcoffee
@awakenwithoutcoffee Жыл бұрын
@@leomilani_gtr it is the Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue from J.S. Bach. Remarkable piece!
@jaylenterry278
@jaylenterry278 Ай бұрын
His speaking voice and articulation is very reminiscent of the late, great, genius Glenn Gould. I love it!
@bethhall-ee2ip
@bethhall-ee2ip Жыл бұрын
A fine example of the genius of Bach. So interesting as, in isolation, it has the quality of a modern modern jazz voicing...Very cool !
@briansadler5225
@briansadler5225 Жыл бұрын
Bach was probably trolling music theorists in the future
@TheIvyLens
@TheIvyLens 9 ай бұрын
These are key strokes that emulate human emotion. It’s funny how it trips them up when they can’t reconcile technique with the notes lol. Humans created this. For other humans. Don’t forget hahahaha
@EriRosi
@EriRosi Ай бұрын
He uses that chord in quite a few of his pieces! It's really beautiful. Gives me the feeling of a day at the beach ending because it's getting cold now the sun is below the horizon.
@ac1646
@ac1646 27 күн бұрын
What a wonderful description. 😁
@jakebaker4066
@jakebaker4066 Жыл бұрын
I love this guy and the words he chooses. And most of all his beautiful playing
@casey7411
@casey7411 Жыл бұрын
What's the piece?
@jonathonaltmann4493
@jonathonaltmann4493 10 ай бұрын
It kind of sounds like a C7b9, the passage kind of sets up this C diminished thing but then you hear this C7b9 chord which maybe indicates that Bach may have been utilising the two modes of the diminished scale. Truly far of his time.
@fabz1509
@fabz1509 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this chord. Early inceptions of rebirth of the coolness.
@user-eb9me1ie7z
@user-eb9me1ie7z 7 ай бұрын
It's beautiful
@davidvernon3119
@davidvernon3119 Жыл бұрын
You don’t usually think of the classical composers having the harmonic sophistication of the modern jazz guys, but bach was laying down a spicy jazz chord there!
@tj3482
@tj3482 Жыл бұрын
All those jazz composers got h Their harmonic ideas from the impressionists and modernists
@althealligator1467
@althealligator1467 Жыл бұрын
They'd never do this in Jazz, though, they pretty much always do the exact same extensions, never this one though.
@vadim4252
@vadim4252 Жыл бұрын
​@@althealligator1467You are not serious right?
@althealligator1467
@althealligator1467 Жыл бұрын
@@vadim4252 _You_ are not serious, right? Name me one occasion in Jazz where you have a m7 chord over its major 6th. It's like a cardinal sin in Jazz to put the perfect 4th (usually they call it an 11th though) over a major chord, so if it's a major chord like a dominant or maj7, you'd put the #4 or #11 to avoid the minor 2nd / minor 9th between the major 3rd and the perfect 4th. You'd get that same dissonance with a major 6th in the bass of a m7 chord, so you'll never see that. You have plenty of counter examples in Pop music, but in Jazz it's pretty much always ii-V-I galore and b9, #11, b13, and no 5th over a dominant chord. Same extensions. Always.
@Distractionalist
@Distractionalist Жыл бұрын
@@althealligator1467 Tell me you took one jazz theory course in college without actually telling me.
@TheCAPTAINDESTROYER
@TheCAPTAINDESTROYER Ай бұрын
Great video thanks. It’s heartening to know that there are still interesting and intelligent videos on KZbin nowadays
@LacoSinfonia
@LacoSinfonia Жыл бұрын
When played in sequence rather than as a chord, it’s like a score from a film about space exploration. Bach was literally centuries ahead of his time.
@tsizzle4shiz
@tsizzle4shiz Жыл бұрын
Bach rules
@JorgeLopez-fu9lb
@JorgeLopez-fu9lb Жыл бұрын
How different would this sound on a keyboard NOT tuned to equal temperament?
@Shamanator
@Shamanator Жыл бұрын
There are dozens and dozens of different tuning schemes, so each one would sound different. Also, noone knows how Bach tuned his keyboards to his own version of equal temperament.
@WeedMIC
@WeedMIC Жыл бұрын
​@@Shamanatoractually bach wrote his temperaments down and would take about 8 mins to tune the instrument to those temperaments. This marking was decyphered by Lehman very recently.
@xourbo8734
@xourbo8734 11 ай бұрын
Not that different.
@moo639
@moo639 7 күн бұрын
@@Shamanator No one is two words.
@jseligmann
@jseligmann 7 ай бұрын
The Fantasies are approaching the mystical in their searching and ruminating. Leaning toward the surrealistic...
@giovi.0
@giovi.0 2 ай бұрын
It is gorgeous, it reminds me of certain contemporary flamenco pieces, the most daring, outside ones like the compositions of Chicuelo. Also I hear the great Scarlatti.
@emanuelecicchino7256
@emanuelecicchino7256 Жыл бұрын
Bach , der Genie.
@swim3936
@swim3936 Жыл бұрын
Gender is weird in German. “Genie” is neuter, so even though Bach is masculine, we’d still use the neuter article and say “Bach das Genie” rather than “Bach der Genie”.
@lenni_3812
@lenni_3812 Жыл бұрын
Bach, der Geniale
@da33smith37
@da33smith37 Жыл бұрын
Name of the piece, please?
@MarshallArtz007
@MarshallArtz007 Жыл бұрын
Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue BWV 903
@theo2460
@theo2460 Жыл бұрын
@@MarshallArtz007thanks!
@theophilos0910
@theophilos0910 10 ай бұрын
Mozart us’d to say to his young English student Thomas Attwood (to whom he taught musical composition in Vienna, 1 Aug 1785 through 4 March 1787) that ‘all dissonances, no matter how harsh on the ear by themselves are more-or-less ‘acceptable’ just as long as they are prepar’d AND resolv’d properly’ - which is a paraphrase of Fux’ Gradus ad Parnassum (1725) ‘on Dissonances & their Resolutions’ [De Dissonatiarvm Resolvtione, page 70] which boil’d down to its essence basically means ‘context is ev’rything’ … M. himself took it on the chin from many ‘conoscenti’ in his audiences with his chromatically-daring ‘Representation of Chaos’ in the opening 22 bars of his ‘Dissonant Quartet’ in C-Major K. 464 compos’d c. July 1785.. But it is no surprise that copyists tried to ‘correct’ this very weird one-bar of strange harmony of J.S. Bach-which acts as a ‘passing tone of sorts’ so is nothing to worry your heads about -but a close examination of Bach’s musical autograph score would be requir’d to put this baby to rest …
@robertgift
@robertgift Жыл бұрын
Love the d Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue BWV903
@spectralflapjack
@spectralflapjack 3 ай бұрын
Every now again, Bach threw in harmonic concepts hundreds of years ahead of their time. His understanding of harmony was absurd.
@markharder3676
@markharder3676 Жыл бұрын
According to Rick Beato (YT channel), Bach employed a chord, in the Well Tempered Clavier I think, that wasn't used by any other composer until the 20th C. The guy was channeling the future or something equally bizarre. And he could improvise this kind of stuff on the spot! Multiple 3-voice (or more) fugues based on a subject his host had just showed him. The host was Frederick the Great. Bach went home and wrote out the pieces plus some more and sent the result to the Emperor. Another eerie Bach phenomenon is that some listeners, myself included, often sense that the old master is present when they listen to his stuff. He speaks to me in ways no other composer can, odd chords included.
@markharder3676
@markharder3676 7 ай бұрын
I too have felt his ghost hovering by my right shoulder, listening to his own music with me. Gotta admit that hearing of the same phenomenon from other Bach addicts is a tad creepy. You do realize there are more than the 2 of us, don't you? Doesn't happen with any other composer, just J.S. Too bad I can't play an instrument. Do you?
@markoslavicek
@markoslavicek 11 ай бұрын
If you paid attention to the first chord of the bar 37 and the first chord of the bar 38, you'd notice they differ in one tone only (G flat resolves to F natural, the rest remains the same). The chord in question is just a 'connection' between the two chords that occurs on the up beat. If we analysed it as a separate harmony, we'd interpret it as some secondary dominant with terrible voice leading (parallel sevenths in upper voices). But as it occurs on the up beat, it is clear that Bach's intention was a gradual melodic movement rather than a single fancy chord. He always thought in terms of counterpoint and each of such ambiguous harmonies need to be observed within a broader context.
@chong2389
@chong2389 Жыл бұрын
Search "Es ist Genug chorale" from BWV60. The first four notes ascend by whole steps A B C# D#. The chord of the fourth note (dictated by voice leading) is the dominant (B7) of the original key's dominant (E).
@Me-uv6kc
@Me-uv6kc Жыл бұрын
That's a very alien sounding chorale I love that piece! As far as I remember the melody was actually borrowed from an even older hymn, but it goes between very unusual harmonies (the first four chords like you're talking about) and then into much more comfortable chord progressions to end the phrases
@jamespatient7438
@jamespatient7438 Жыл бұрын
What’s it called? Beautiful playing☺️
@emefcue
@emefcue Жыл бұрын
Could someone tell me what bach this piece is please?
3 ай бұрын
Fantasia are meant to reproduce the improvisation style from the composer. Young Bach received criticism (in Arnstadt for instance) for unusual counterpoint (making the choral unrecognizable) and too much improvisation during the office. Later, he acquired a solid fame as an improvisator. I think it is fair to assume that Bach sounded like that. No wonder he has the all-time record in breeding world-class composers : it means his kids would hear that at home from the crib.
@nemo-x
@nemo-x Жыл бұрын
That chord is both fine on its own, and makes sense within the atmosphere of the chords before and after it. Is it because it doesn't sound complete? Is that literally it? Does every chord have to be complete on its own? How do you guys get a resolution to a melody if everything is a complete harmony in and of itself?
@harleyjo4875
@harleyjo4875 Жыл бұрын
When Bach fucks with jazz but it’s before jazz.
@PepperWilliams_songcovers
@PepperWilliams_songcovers Жыл бұрын
BACH was 1000 years ❤❤❤ahead of his time❤❤❤
@commontater8630
@commontater8630 Ай бұрын
Bach died 274 years ago so that means another 776 years before we catch up with him!
@GT19873
@GT19873 Ай бұрын
Use more emojis
@ronl7131
@ronl7131 Ай бұрын
Goosebump producing genius
@peterbernhard7415
@peterbernhard7415 Ай бұрын
First time around, you made me realize that rhythm relates to chords by what is called "arpeggio" - I think I heard you say "rhythm" - it seems so simply but only now I do think it's true: it's the rhythm - even as the beat, be it 2/2 - that declares specific notes of arpeggios as "dominant", or as sub-dominant. Who, to me, it's giants steps I seem to be enabled to - the tonic thus appears, tentatively, as a "cut set" of what has been defined by the rhythm as dominant and sub-dominant notes of what - to make it less simple - could be a melody. It's not that simple, anyway, however, I now think it could be. This has become a bubbly, so, thank you for truly inspiring me - to sum up: by name-dropping the word "rhythm" instead of "arpeggio" (I'm so biased, maybe you not even said so - so, sorry (not only seems to be my last word, well: again, sorry).
@e.d.1642
@e.d.1642 Жыл бұрын
Reminds of that passage in a Chopin Nocturne where I heard and saw three different versions of a particular chromaticism
@rafaycheema7643
@rafaycheema7643 Жыл бұрын
Whats the name of this piece?
@JerryEboy69
@JerryEboy69 2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if this is applicable to this specific piece, but I always read the manuscript. I spend time finding them to refine my playing
@gillespage5489
@gillespage5489 Жыл бұрын
Is your piano tuned to the era's standard?
@TiagoCavalcanti-ji6hu
@TiagoCavalcanti-ji6hu Жыл бұрын
fair point
@giuliobaldi6166
@giuliobaldi6166 Жыл бұрын
What composition is this?
@Me-uv6kc
@Me-uv6kc Жыл бұрын
BWV 903 it's the fantasy part of chromatic fantasy and fugue
@user-ck6ly4st3v
@user-ck6ly4st3v 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful transcendent music
@marklomnas6531
@marklomnas6531 2 ай бұрын
Bach knew very well what he was doing.
@cadenlovelace5819
@cadenlovelace5819 Жыл бұрын
It sounds a C7 flat 9 over G, a great sound overall
@isaacbeen2087
@isaacbeen2087 11 ай бұрын
G flat! and there's no E natural, it's also flat!
@davidlouis2354
@davidlouis2354 Жыл бұрын
Don't judge a chord in isolation.
@g_way
@g_way Жыл бұрын
By Fall Out Boy
@vishalvenkat6
@vishalvenkat6 6 ай бұрын
Jordan Schlansky out here playing Bach.
@paxwallace8324
@paxwallace8324 5 ай бұрын
Every jazz pianist "Gee I play that chord every gig"
@Mili.Amadeus
@Mili.Amadeus Жыл бұрын
Name of the piece?
@leoribic1691
@leoribic1691 Жыл бұрын
It's one of the arpeggi from the Chromatic Fantasy :) I play that piece and like it a lot! Besides the scale-runs it's a pretty easy piece to learn, and has a really clever descending chromatic line in the end sequence, all the way to the last D Major chord!
@Mili.Amadeus
@Mili.Amadeus Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@treypdx
@treypdx Жыл бұрын
Which piece is this?
@timothyhoft
@timothyhoft 10 ай бұрын
Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue
@treypdx
@treypdx 10 ай бұрын
@@timothyhoft thank you!
@tabletennisbuddy
@tabletennisbuddy 2 ай бұрын
chrimatic stuff.... I improvise these things every day when I am having coffee.... Yes, it is very special, when it is in a context! My favourite Bach's piece now : Come Sweet Death, where the harmony is out of this world.....!
@morrisgreg2176
@morrisgreg2176 Жыл бұрын
That face when you played the chord after saying "it sounds like Bach didn't know what he was hearing here"
@abz124816
@abz124816 3 ай бұрын
Bach was a Jazz musician ahead of his time.
@guitarplayerfactorychannel
@guitarplayerfactorychannel Жыл бұрын
What is this piece?
@evanrossman2804
@evanrossman2804 Жыл бұрын
sing us a song you're the piano man.
@suryanima_chandranima
@suryanima_chandranima Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting something so floaty and a lovely sounding. Sounds curious, looking around... "searching" is right on.
@edelahaye
@edelahaye Ай бұрын
Telonious Monk have said that Bach was one of his greatest source of inspiration.
@moo639
@moo639 7 күн бұрын
Fats Waller also spent hours with Bach.
@leomilani_gtr
@leomilani_gtr Жыл бұрын
Tell us the piece!!!!!
@PedroCristian
@PedroCristian Жыл бұрын
Bwv 903 chromatic fantaisie
@barrilitomusic
@barrilitomusic Жыл бұрын
Name of the chord?
@michaelklein9276
@michaelklein9276 Жыл бұрын
Id call it a C7b9/G
@willmorris8198
@willmorris8198 Ай бұрын
​@@michaelklein9276 don't forget about the Eb and Gb carried over from the previous chord which is in the same measure. It's Cm7b5b9/Gb (or in classical terms C half diminished b9 in second inversion)
@johnwoods6539
@johnwoods6539 Жыл бұрын
love Back!!!!... he was so so brilliant, and genius..
@SlowTrill
@SlowTrill 17 күн бұрын
The best explanation to me is that Bb and Db are passing notes. But they can easily sound like chord-tones nonethless because of the arpeggiated texture.
@leonardodelyrarodrigues3752
@leonardodelyrarodrigues3752 Жыл бұрын
Jazz started with Bach, then Chopin, and then it was born in the 19th/20th century.
@beastasfiist
@beastasfiist Жыл бұрын
isn't this a re-upload?
@OrpheoCT
@OrpheoCT Жыл бұрын
They had uploaded a version where the score didn’t match his playing at that precise chord lol
@jamesmacaulay564
@jamesmacaulay564 Жыл бұрын
Yes and despite that glaring and amusing lack of effort it’s still more or less viral. KZbin music is a depressing place.
@michaelsmith697
@michaelsmith697 Ай бұрын
I’m playing the prelude in B flat minor book1 now. It’s incredible!!
@soyouwanttowriteafugue2170
@soyouwanttowriteafugue2170 Жыл бұрын
That's a result of composing by what is named "Klangkolorit" in Germany. Not all what can happen harmonically must be possible to be described theoretically in terms of his harmonical function. This searching Bach in the "Chromatische Fantasie" ist an example for the improvising Bach, not for the academic Bach driven by rules.
@novakingood3788
@novakingood3788 Жыл бұрын
So now we know who really invented jazz.
@boogiecats
@boogiecats Жыл бұрын
It's a cool cluster chord. If you want to hear jazzy things in popular music listen to Steely Dan.
@ClaireODonnell
@ClaireODonnell 4 ай бұрын
You cracked me up with the opening clips from the tonebase video 😂 Ok, not so “insane”, but perhaps a better adjective is “ambiguous” as it could probably resolve in a number of ways… your short has me thinking about this!
@eggman7527
@eggman7527 8 күн бұрын
As a swift arpeggio, it sounds gorgeous!
@codythedoggo7671
@codythedoggo7671 Жыл бұрын
Jazzy sounding
@trevormichaelmcgowan
@trevormichaelmcgowan 10 ай бұрын
Genius
@The_Metal_Urge
@The_Metal_Urge 7 ай бұрын
I know it seems convenient to say so but Its actually in my top favourite five sounds I don't really know music theory but I can always pick it out it makes me so happy.
@ChopinIsMyBestFriend
@ChopinIsMyBestFriend Жыл бұрын
Robert Hill’s recording of that B Minor prelude is super good.
@byron8159
@byron8159 8 ай бұрын
Classic pianist hears a jazz chord for the first time
@ikkejick
@ikkejick 8 ай бұрын
Every jazz composer: "that's cute"
@Hydrasito
@Hydrasito 8 ай бұрын
i dont see any jazz composer doing a fugue, bach has always been the peak of harmony and polyphony
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