This INSANE! DoD Pentagon wants to OWN Elon Musk's Starship for the dangerous mission...

This INSANE! DoD Pentagon wants to OWN Elon Musk's Starship for the dangerous mission...
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This INSANE! DoD Pentagon wants to OWN Elon Musk's Starship for the dangerous mission...
Not only is it once again sending astronauts to orbit from American soil but the company has also kicked off the Starship program- a new phase of space tourism and potentially brought the settlement of Mars a step closer to reality, among other accomplishments.
Starship is like a beacon of light that captures the attention of anyone, from spacefaring travelers to NASA aeronautical agency, and notably, the Department of Defense is also not overlooking the potential benefits that Starship could bring to national security.
This has been strongly demonstrated at a recent Space Mobility Conference in Florida, where a senior official from SpaceX announced the DoD's desire to transform Starship into a government-owned asset.
So, what happened?
Why does DoD want to own Starship so much?
Let’s find out on today’s episode of Alpha Tech!

[@rogerrussell9544]

If government focuses on the SpaceX mindset, it's to destroy that mindset.

[@mehmetmehmet5019]

The dream of star ship and its objective's are the dreams of all humanity. Don't let any one militarise it and corrupt it's purpose.

[@alphatech4966]

Thank you for your comment! Good idea!!

[@brianwade7973]

Government should stay the hell out of it.

[@user-lq5qu8bn1q]

wow, you're so enthusiastic and I'm so glad to come across a positive and courageous men like yourself.where are you watching from?

[@chrisbragdon5901]

Keep any form of “federal government” influence out of any business endeavor. Period! Especially this current regime.

[@stanmarsh3716]

This is such a stupid take

[@davidvomlehn4495]

Starship wouldn't exist without a huge amount of federal government involvement. If you don't know this, what else don't you know?

[@edidiongekpo]

Starship is technological innovation at its best. Elon Musk is great.

[@raymondcramer1380]

If Musk was smart, he would use the DOD to force the FAA to move there asses on launch permits! It would be worth more then money at this time!

[@rickjames18]

Privilage or not, the military protects the US and I hope Elon makes the choice to help develop defenses for the US since much of the systems end up in space. Something like a intercepter shield against nukes that stays classified. I think Elon probably wouldn't like to do offensive builds but defensive should be a no brainer. The US needs someone with Musks expertise and company to help guard us from CCP weapons that are certainly pointed at the US.

[@jarichards99utube]

IMO - If the DoD Pentagon wants to use any of SpaceX assets, then they can DAMN-WELL $-PAY Elon for using them... -70SomethingGuy

[@belledetector]

This is the one of the most ridiculous ideas the DoD has come up with, and SpaceX should have declined the offer, even at the conceptual stage..

[@ZawnDawn]

Why don't they just have NASA build the government a star ship? It will only take 50 years.

[@rickjames18]

Why doesn't the DoD just buy or rent a StarShip of there own ready to use as needed. The US would be follow to continue spending on other companies or purchases related to space. Also, I am curios why the US Pentagon has not already asked Space X and Starlink to send a large number of satellites that can provide the US mikitary with communications that cannot be taken out by one missile, jammed, spoofed, or hacked by adversaries. A system that would provided guarenteed service even in very difficult circumstances.

[@herman7992]

I feel really really bad and sad for any other intelligent civilization in space meeting us one day... it will be for sure a day the aliens will regret.

[@mikeg0802]

Reminds me of the scene in Armageddon where the Air Force comes in and takes over Mission Control

[@MrMorden00]

If I were SpaceX I'd tell the DoD to pound sand. If they want a starship, have them buy it from SpaceX and buy their own launch and maintenance facilities. We have to get out of the habit of every time a private company that builds something innovative, the DoD swoops in and makes it theirs.

[@PanioloBee]

It could be set up DoD pays highly for a militarized Starship and SpaceX still maintains a commercial side. Boeing has a military side and a commercial side. The military side could subsidize the commercial side. I’m sure Musk knows how to play the game.

[@nighttow8780]

SpaceX should not allow this to happen. Allowing Starship to become part of the Department of Defense would make SpaceX and its various facilities around America valid targets to enemy fire.

[@mattblack9069]

And stolen technology.

[@gottfriedheumesser1994]

Do you think they are not already targets for your enemy?

[@nighttow8780]

@@gottfriedheumesser1994 ALL infrastructure is a target. But CURRENTLY, SpaceX is NOT at the top of anyone's target list as SpaceX does not manufacture war materials. But if the DOD gets their dirty hands on starship, SpaceX will move to the top of all lists

[@lamontterry2590]

starship is commercial and should stay commercial

[@jaydcs6298]

So this'd be similar to the US government/military purchasing and owning fleets of Boeing aircraft normally used for commercial airliners? Shocking.

[@bryanst.martin7134]

150 tons of warhead I mean payload. That's 350 MIRVs? Probably not what Elon had in mind.

[@rogerrussell9544]

He may have wanted a free and independent colony on Mars, something Biden can't allow.

[@Danielspacex]

40 minutes/150 tons is a game changer. Elon, sell the military a couple.

[@TheSnoopall]

Its small wedge in taking SpaceX away from Elon its all stinks to me.

[@GRSG]

So much to unpack here. I have a few issues that confuse me. If the DOD uses starship to fly point to point. Will it land on a mechazilla launch pad that's already built at the other end? Ok so that means less flexibility. If it just flies to an airfield somewhere, how do you refuel it to get home, where does the return super heavy booster reside? Also landing a fully loaded starship with cargo. How much dV is required for that landing? Landing an empty SS from orbit might actually be easier than landing a fully loaded SS from a sub orbital flight.

[@sammadison1172]

I don't pretend to understand the DoD use case for point to point, but I suspect with Government bucks they're thinking single use delivery anywhere on Earth for emergencies or getting the next Bin Laden. Then leaving it or scrapping it. I don't know how you're getting it back to a pad at that point.

[@ColourX_]

Yeah I think it’s a one and done type of situation just drop off enough cargo to set up a base and leave them at the location

[@user-qx2xc5eb1o]

The wording is not quite right: the Pentagon wants there own version of Starship, specific for their needs, SpaceX could build it for them.

[@SebastianWellsTL]

Exactly, if I am not mistaken it wouldn't be any different from how the US military buys fighters from Lockheed Martin. It's a publicly trader company, though, not government a owned one.

[@user-qx2xc5eb1o]

@@SebastianWellsTL SpaceX is still a private company no stock are available to the public. However, yes they still allowed to sell to the government.

[@user-ik1sc3fj9n]

Good morning 🌞 to all of my business overseas

[@alphatech4966]

Thank you so much! Have a good day!

[@charlesthompson4586]

This is all about BIDENS EGO, HE CAN'T STAND ELON

[@henryTech720]

If gov wants to buy a starship then Force the government to pay full development costs of starship plus huge profit, while retaining full rights to manufacture with SpaceX only in SpaceX stays the full like a car manufacturer sells your car but the manufacturer is still owner for manufacturing and repairs etc

[@TogetherinParis]

I've been ragging on the DoD to use Starship as a SpaceForce BattleShip for many years in comment spaces like this one and directly to DARPA. Glad to see that the obvious hasn't escaped them completely.

[@normski4ash]

Am I missing something here ? If the DOD fills starship with whatever, food, clothing, weapons. Super heavy puts starship into orbit, then returns to base. Starship flies to wherever the DOD want it. END OF ! There's no fully fuelled super heavy at the drop off point waiting to send starship back into orbit ! There's no refuelling depot to refuel the starship for the return flight ! Durrrrrrrrr !!! How can it fly back and to, doing numerous missions per day ? There's going to be a lot of starships, parked up, on the battle field !

[@benjaminyoung2454]

I would assume they will develop drop shipping cargo resupply. Look for example falcon 9 fairing uses a steerable parachute from very high low earth orbit. I picture it something like a C130 dropping cargo creates out the back of the plane. Except it's dropped from low earth orbit. And then starship continues on home for landing and reuse

[@belledetector]

Single use. Insanity

[@richardjohnson1180]

I’m thinking it will be an orbital bomber. The rods from god kinetic energy concept would be a reality.

[@normski4ash]

@@benjaminyoung2454 If starship reaches orbit, anything dropped will have to come back through the atmosphere, so heat tiles or burn up ! Falcons fairings don't reach orbit, they are released before. Therefore no atmospheric re entry. Plus they land in the ocean, a few miles away, not the other side of the world ! If you are going to do it like the fairings, you might as well put it on a jet plane.

[@marcdb1412]

NASA has become a huge bureaucracy where money and politics control its space plans. In the meanwhile, the private Starship is progressing forward to reach the moon and beyond at much lower cost. Cheers.

[@jmcenanly1]

The SpaceX Starship is what the Shuttle was supposed to be

[@OldBillOverHill]

Starship Troopers a reality?

[@jamesnicholls9969]

so Starship is going to be used as an orbital bomber. using kinetic weapons. that will make an enemy think twice about doing anything, if a response could be less the 60 minutes from them starting anything

[@mikejr.cornett6030]

They’re true goal is to not allow anyone except themselves to enjoy the highest level of defense or attack and control

[@appliedfacts]

The goal is not to exclude anyone except themselves. That is impossible. So, the goal is to stay well ahead of everyone else so that their best tech is obsolete in compairison.

[@robb8235]

SpaceX can make starship to different specs…. Lunar version, LEO version, military version…. Just comes down to needs of the mission…. But it would be better in the hands of SpaceX… let them build, maintain, and prep it.

[@alphatech4966]

Yeah!

[@stephensfarms7165]

SpaceX StarShip is the best rocket 🚀 ever built. 👍👍👍‼️‼️‼️

[@rambler05]

Not yet.

[@medbob1]

Not a problem. Sell them one... Or three. They can be the biggest paying customer.

[@Helliconia54]

if the DoD want their own starship ,let them buy them from SpaceX

[@orogenicman]

I am not convinced that there is a viable market for using Starships to transport goods around the world. Nor am I convinced of the safety in doing so. Convince me.

[@warrenwhite9085]

A Starship can fly from NY to the other side of the world, 10,000 miles, in less than an hour, vs 20 hours for commercial aircraft. So not only is time saved but the ship could make 5-10 times more flights back & forth than the aircraft. There’s a reason Elon Musk is building a factory to make hundreds of Starships per year.

[@orogenicman]

@@warrenwhite9085 So far, Starship hasn't proven that it can fly out of the Gulf of Mexico.

[@Gunter_Custom]

​@@orogenicman Lol love you kind of guys .. no vision what so ever .. 😂😂

[@peterhall8572]

😮😮z Customer! Yeah right until it's ready to seize it claiming national security or something like, what an amazing free country you are

[@ColourX_]

The ability to to move thousands of pounds of equipment in hours would be the biggest advantage to any military imagine waking up and seeing a fully operational military base outside of your city Also I believe that the military should try to set up a mass drone operation you could easily fly helicopters in with massive drone swarms that could devastate any target within minutes and would reduce the amount of troops on the ground Most of the technology already exists and most drone swarms only take 4 or 5 people to program and set up with starship you could send millions of drones already retro fitted with explosive in hours and can be used within a day of arrival Kinda scary to think about how easy it would be for this to be reality

[@briangman3]

Cool idea but spacex should remain totally neutral, making a few bucks of the military will hurt them in the long run

[@alphatech4966]

Yeah!

[@thomaskalbfus2005]

Starship Troopers!

[@Jimbo65203]

The DoD can use any company, at any time, to produce the products they find they must have; that is any business, and the business has no choice but to do it. For example, in a factory, they can take it over to produce what it needs. An entire line can be totally dedicated to producing supplies for the military war efforts or for defense purposes. This ranges from electronics to heavy earthmoving equipment, the needs are vast and the desire to have them is endless. Where did you think the military gets it's products; a military factory?

[@ygursivad9921]

This statement is entirely untrue! The constitution disallows the government from taking over the company.. No freaking way!!

[@user-ko1yn8ci6c]

B.S.

[@davidnelson7719]

Defense Production Act... but it doesn't really work the way Jimbo would have you believe.

[@Jimbo65203]

Long title An Act to establish a system of priorities and allocations for materials and facilities, authorize the requisitioning thereof, provide financial assistance for expansion of productive capacity and supply, provide for price and wage stabilization, provide for the settlement of labor disputes, strengthen controls over credit, and by these measures facilitate the production of goods and services necessary for the national security, and for other purposes Enacted by the 81st United States Congress Effective September 8, 1950 Public law 81-774 Statutes at Large 64 Stat. 798 Titles amended 50 U.S.C: War and National Defense U.S.C. sections created 50 U.S.C. Chapter 55

[@user-nr8yk6on9t]

Maybe after 5 cancelled flights in maybe!!! In 7 years we might get it to go at least 1 mile.😊

[@n00bnetrum]

So, what's keeping other nuclear powers from assuming it's a first strike when the US military stars shooting Starships towards them, even if it's just as transports?

[@DARisse-ji1yw]

It still needs to fly......

[@SR71ABCD]

Its quite simple really... Military Cargo, a Military Orbital Tracking Station or a Orbital Weapons Platform.

[@StEvEn-dp1ri]

As a former Marine, the DoD wanting to purchase a Starship outright is a bit of an eyebrow raise.

[@jamesheald567]

DoD bets on both red and black.

[@rory-red]

keeping it as earthy Transport is norrowminded by DoD.

[@stevenmitchell6347]

The use of Starship for offensive military purposes would make ALL Starship launches subject to interception by hostile entities. There have already been multiple cases of civilian aircraft being mistaken for military aircraft and shot down by nervous, scared, and poorly trained troops.

[@david7384]

good luck intercepting starship hahahah

[@vgfxworks]

Now we are on our way to Mars.

[@garylester3976]

Sounds familiar... Have done writs here on Alpha Tech about these very capabilities. If nothing else its a new level of cheap tech for DOD to leverage... All they have to say is National Security, and things get suddenly very cooperative. The actual genius of it all stems from three things; 1. Simplified and reusable engines. 2. use of fabrication for tanks and hulls. 3. use of stainless steel. Those might be considered platform technologies. And uses not limited to stubby tubular configurations with flappers... In fact it opens up a new frontier in Aircraft potentials, many of which will be hybrids with current military aircraft concepts. And potentially erases the bondary layer between aircraft and space craft. Nor would everything have to include butt launched designs on mega boosters. Its motors man, everything from Space yachts to go carts... I have suggested stealth flying wing flying boat designs. All nicely fabricated shapes using longitudinal gores, and bigger than the Spruce Goose by an order of magnitude. The sky is no longer the limit. could be units designed expressly for one orbit flights or one sub orbit circum navigation flight at altitude of choice. Talking about something that could finally replace the B-52's. and travel so high up, 60,000 ft was considered low altitude. Basically as a Milspec Tech, its a cheap as krapp whatever you want, Bomber, cargo carrier or even a disposable glider troop carrier. All we need now, is for DOD to say those two magic words to FAA, and F&W dept. "National Security, fill out all the forms you want, just dont delay anything ever again, or else." And I'm suspecting the next Administration would consider developing this tech to full potential, to be making America great again.

[@alphatech4966]

Thank you for your comment!

[@davidvomlehn4495]

If SpaceX conveys a vehicle to any other entity, they will have to make all changes to any software licensed under a GPL or GPL-like license public. This includes the Linux kernel and Busybox. It's not clear that they can do this and comply with ITAR restrictions. There are probably ways to handle this with some clever lawyering, but it's not a slam dunk.

[@MrRockydee07]

This is the beginning of Spaceballs 😅

[@agroman77]

so true ...

[@luangu]

Boots on the moon!

[@HowDareUbuddy]

Screw Biden and the DOD

[@johnsweet8964]

😊spaceX can use the cash infusion to evolve and expand

[@Hungary_0987]

They dont need that

[@johnsadler6534]

The DOD wants to build their own launch tower and rocket then go for it !

[@micahisawesome4843]

Sell them what they need. Negotiate some big tax breaks into the sale. More money for SpaceX = more development

[@Squeezmo]

MOAB

[@TheStrike101]

Starship would be the first generation reusable human earth-space domestic carrier and reusable interplanetary carrier. Where now going to next era of human civilization guysssss..... Hold on your seats

[@sirkriskringle]

The DoD need to Stuff it , Elon Space X is NOT For Sale . SKK .

[@AllanMelsen]

Omg…. Can you insert an ‘a’ into your title, instead of this clickbait? They would like to have ‘a (one) dedicated Starship’….

[@williamhanna5224]

Excellent !

[@alphatech4966]

Thank you so much!

[@dearlp]

DOD wants... CONTROL.

[@HHowardHH]

A lot of very qualified people claim that the Mars trip is a Kamikaze mission.

[@ygursivad9921]

Once again, click bait

[@ngamashaka4894]

Tungsten telephone pole baby. It is a nuclear weapon without the side effects....

[@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist]

They want to employ thousands of DoD employees.

[@NoNoCanadian]

Elon might sell them a ship or two, but never the whole program.

[@raphael.egarcia4139]

NOt even 1 .. He will lease them out

[@ShadeDraws]

Eff the DOD.

[@SuperDave_BR549]

ha ha ha ha a space farce without a single rocket, that's rich.

[@SMunro]

And there it is... the nationalization of starship.

[@Hungary_0987]

Who would have thought😂

[@SMunro]

@@Hungary_0987 actually the youtube algorithm showed me an old black and white scifi where the government tell the private sector dude building a moon rocket they are going to privatize his starship. Before that it showed me noferatu which is about a pandemic and how people behave in early 2020. So you know... its important to protect AI from governments and companies.

[@noahway13]

I think Space X is so vital to the Pentagon that it would probably try to nationalize it rather than lose it. The pentagon does not want SpaceX itself. It would become NASA 2 if taken over by the government. China wants Hong Kong, and Taiwan, etc, but it would kill the thing that makes these places great. You cannot overestimate how much the DOD needs Space X. And don't forget the communication it provides to Ukraine.

[@e100vids2]

I think they can offer Musk many needed patents and assets, and a worthwhile profit. Cooperation is the name of the game.

[@mikerash-pc4jc]

It’s never gona happen! The pentagon wants a giant cargo aircraft to transfers troops quickly across the ocean. They approached Hugh’s aircraft. Howard Hugh’s used millions of tax dollars to make this dream reality. They got the spruce goose that flew once at an elevation of 3 to 4 feet above the ocean. I might add Howard flew the goose himself. After that flight. The spruce goose went to the Smithsonian and not combat. The current starship is slated for this same outcome. Howard Hughes was a brilliant engineer and pilot. Elon Musk is neither.

[@davidboyle1902]

If nothing else, this ridiculous idea - how do you ‘return’ a Starship? - would be a serious impetus to develop landing legs.

[@drone_boss]

😂😂😂😂

[@robertbolding4182]

We never went to the móon.

[@Time2gojoe]

Im so done with your high level of censorship. I want to participate in this channel but you will not let me say even basic non offensive stuff without blocks. Unsubbed

[@micahrobles5210]

Let me try. This channel is run by the Illuminati. Starship + Lasers = new world order.

[@WWPlaysHoldem]

Get real! What have you said that was blocked?

[@micahrobles5210]

Mine got erased too so it's true.

[@Hungary_0987]

?

[@micahrobles5210]

@@Hungary_0987 can't vouch for @letsgojoe63 but I did a test and said something silly and within a few minutes my comment was removed. Nothing I said was serious and I sorta kept it on topic but this channel has some tight guidelines about discourse. I'll be blocking the channel from my feed because that's messed up.

[@juliancrooks3031]

I can see why the DOD would be interested in the starship. We know it blows up real good. They just need to control where it blows up

[@jroar123]

First, the DOD station just about everything they need in several different places around the world. They really don't need to use Starship to move equipment from one place to another. The only real reason to use Starship would be to place spy satellites in orbit. But, if they did need to put a hydrogen bomb on an enemy, they have lots of missiles that would do the trick. If they needed to put a 4 star General into a combat area, they can do that by Face-time. So it really comes down to what would the DOD need that is THAT time sensitive? It is possible that the DOD are thinking about cutting back their overseas presents. To move an entire army from Texas to China would take half an hour. The only problem with that idea is that China would shoot down Starship and there goes 100 good men. Any battlefield application would be risky simply because any yahoo with a surface to air missile could do a lot of damage. So it takes me back to what is the best use of Starship? That again would be to put spy satellites and military communication into orbit (and a way to defend them).

[@user-ko1yn8ci6c]

Man, they are already using Space X.

[@jroar123]

@@user-ko1yn8ci6c : Not Starship as of yet but very soon. Yes, Falcon and Falcon Heavy are being used. I'm sure that we don't really know about all of the flights already made and its payload. The only Countries that come close to SpaceX is Russia and China. I don't think Space Force is using them for their missions. I do know that China has stolen all of the plans from SpaceX and are using them for their space programs. Starship will be a game changer when it's finally operational in 3 years. Even the Chinese will not be able to produce what SpaceX will accomplish. Maybe it's just me but I really wanted to keep the military out of space world wide. Too bad that spying is such a lucrative endeavor around the world. Still, Elon Musk will pay for a lunar colony from the money he gets from the Government. After the moon is up and running, he will turn towards Mars and maybe some other venture such as mining asteroid fields. There is a lot of money to be made in space. My guess (and it's probably a good one) is that humans will be living and working all around the solar system in another 100 years.

[@ogie4893]

I can't even listen to this crap.

[@ronkennedy305]

OK does the person making this video live in the USA? The federal government has full access to the plans he is building ICBMs

[@chrissschwehr5911]

No the new class of ICBMs is being build by someone else. Starship is strictly a cargo/passenger ship.....for now.

[@ronkennedy305]

@@chrissschwehr5911 it is the same technology and I am pretty sure you can put a weapon in it

[@NarleyAdventures]

@@ronkennedy305 The new ICBMs are going to be hypersonic, a totally different technology, this has no bearing on SpaceX

[@haxresearch701]

POINTLESS CLICKBAIT

[@user-fq7vs8dl5k]

We need to come up with a way for NASA or SpaceX to get up there and start knocking other countries satellites out of orbit.

[@user-lq5qu8bn1q]

wow, you're so enthusiastic and I'm so glad to come across a positive and courageous men like yourself.where are you watching from?

[@kelvin869]

Starship would be a good option to launch those "Rods from God."

[@stanleydavidson6543]

SpaceX is way ahead of other programs