Wedbush Securities' Dan Ives joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the latest developments on the global IT outage, what it means for CrowdStrike, and more.
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@TimotejFedlimid-zo3hy2 ай бұрын
So a billion dollar cyber security company released software without testing it first? Kyle the intern is so fired.
@ajs412 ай бұрын
They must have tested it but obviously their testing procedures weren't adequate.
@hariharasudhanr71982 ай бұрын
Correction: 100 billion dollar company
@amandajames55952 ай бұрын
While the kids were playing with 3 trillion worth of graphics cards to generate AI cartoons, no AI can’t fix everything..classic example where the real word has a different focus to Fake AI hype
@Slay_Nation2 ай бұрын
on a friday
@antilogism2 ай бұрын
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@Kingofdaslumzxps2 ай бұрын
I work in IT for a well known retail company with about 1,000 locations in the USA. It hit us hard, not only our corporate employee's laptops, servers, etc are affected but the registers are down. Online ordering systems are down....there's no way to make money. We need to manually fix each store/person/register one by one. It's been a nightmare all day. Thought Fridays were supposed to be easy, smh. FML
@bmla882 ай бұрын
How can they release such a massive update at once? Wouldn’t it make sense to do a slow rollout to be safe?
@shoegirl4072 ай бұрын
Poor thing! You have a long weekend ahead.
@Batmann292 ай бұрын
I salute you man. I just got off the phone with my company’s IT team and they were able to fix my laptop but it took 30 mins. We’re not even a big company either. Hang in there mate!
@01kaskasero2 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have bought Crowdstrike
@microbe_rz37-rn1dk2 ай бұрын
@@bmla88 was it an "update" ?
@skippyzk2 ай бұрын
My company is having lots of problems. 4 day weekend!
@Slay_Nation2 ай бұрын
Release updates on a FRIDAY into PRODUCTION is crazy
@yangbomb22 ай бұрын
Code deployment 101
@superxcozy2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@matthew.m.stevick2 ай бұрын
A major technology news event without Wedbush’s Dan Ives is like a beach 🏖️ w/ no sand.
@Longtack552 ай бұрын
I'm sure you mean "w/o sand?"
@StanleyJonathas2 ай бұрын
It’s very simple. I don’t understand how all these big companies all make the same mistakes. First never ever auto update. Second only update a few devices in staging environment for 30 days. Third, roll out update to production following successful staging test.
@frederichardy88442 ай бұрын
Microsoft (and probably CrowdStrike) software license are usually very clear : they are not responsible for anything! You are using their software at your own risk.
@rmondave2 ай бұрын
Monopoly.
@BDBD162 ай бұрын
LINUX FTW!
@ketheric2 ай бұрын
Doesn't mean insurers can't sue them for negligence (Crowdstrike I mean, Microsoft isn't at fault)
@frederichardy88442 ай бұрын
@@ketheric they can try but is they signed a contract saying that CrowdStrike is not liable it won't be easy. And why Microsoft is not at fault??? Windows should have protection mechanism against that kind of error, just displaying an error message, not a BSOD (because deploying a correction when windows is not even booting is not easy...), and the Linux and MacOS versions are not impacted...
@ketheric2 ай бұрын
@@frederichardy8844 lol it DOES have a protection mechanism, it's called don't install kernel-level drivers unless you absolutely know what you're doing. MacOS and Linux were not impacted because the bug was in the Windows version and not in the MacOS and Linux versions. Otherwise they would have been impacted just the same.
@vapsa562 ай бұрын
This "CEO" is worried about his "brand." Surgeries were not sceduled because of the mess the company he's in charge of screwed up.
@paulz46322 ай бұрын
The Biggest Failure is that any update doesnt need to be mass implemented all at once, you have 1-2 days to deploy unless its a cve 8+, there is no reason why you cannot stagger out updates over 24-48 hours with 6 hours for 5% of clients to ensure stability. Lazyness at its extreme both from CrowdStrike and even IT managers that configured to auto update immedietly... Just amazed how complient everyone is to allow any updates to your business's PC's via AD etc without a testing phase of at least 24 hours... Companies realistically need to invest 10% of there budget to Cyber secrutity now but its more like 1-2% not enought in the slightest, as clearly shown... Trust a external entity to patch your systems without prior testing for a day duh.. CIO's failure 100%
@johnnyjocoserious37332 ай бұрын
Most of these companies are trying to cut headcount not add to it.
@superxcozy2 ай бұрын
Cybersecurity salaries about to exploded. No one wants to get caught with their pants down
@speedy02 ай бұрын
It’s a content update. My guess they thought it was a simple update. Regardless, it’s a failure on its processes for fast delivery at the expense of its brand and customers’ trusts investing on recovery solution.
@VincentEddington-v6v2 ай бұрын
Super article, many new and interesting facts.
@apooh30512 ай бұрын
If it's an update on CrowdStrike, shouldn't they be testing this update before deploying to production.
@TomMcinerney-g9b2 ай бұрын
they performed testing before shipping: maybe inadequate, but it only caused issues with some of the MS systems.
@superxcozy2 ай бұрын
That means not enough testing was done. They deploy that client to probably hundreds of thousands of machines if not in the millions, needs to be thorough
@srourfamily2 ай бұрын
incyber world this is not update it is adown grade!!!! now can be copied it time to observe them in any desk software!!!!!!!!!
@bayareacarnatic2 ай бұрын
must have been a simple 1 line change,,no need to test those :)
@bobbyd60402 ай бұрын
Klaus Schwab coincidentally predicted worldwide tech outages at the WEF years ago
@W1thcdoctor19872 ай бұрын
Every day, there are thousands of failed software updates (globally) that are rolled back. Today's CrowdStrike Falcon release upgrade snafu is simply a release error (or omission) that has a huge supply chain impact. The news media should focus on the topic of risks related to software release management processes.
@rickchandler25702 ай бұрын
The license agreement that customers have to sign to buy the product will exempt CrowdStrike from any lawsuits.
@cozyslor2 ай бұрын
"Black eye moment", "epic disaster", "gold standard", "Apple, Cook, Cupertino Mt. Rushmore", "Mt. Everest up hill battle".
@simrans36752 ай бұрын
😂😂
@kingjustice18312 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@mx20002 ай бұрын
He has a way with words 😂
@Flexipop762 ай бұрын
Golden goose, godfather of AI
@kossboss2 ай бұрын
Metaphor Einstein
@kiuki422 ай бұрын
Employee's 4th month at the company: "Whoops..."
@factotums2 ай бұрын
This might be an odd opinion but I think from an investor perspective this works out in Crowdstrike's favor. There is no bad publicity, especially when your brand becomes synonymous with cybersecurity at the most important levels like airports across the world. Millions of people had no idea that these companies were running Crowdstrike and today they do. Also this might be a pain for your IT department, but so is changing service providers with something as sensitive as security. And for newer companies looking for a security provider, the first thing they will remember is that all of these major organizations trust Crowdstrike and so they will trust them as well. So put succinctly, short term negative, long term positive.
@dypes262 ай бұрын
Something similar happened with mcAfee in 2010 and it took out computer networks globally
@v1n3ger432 ай бұрын
And the ceo was George kurtz again
@silverwolf68662 ай бұрын
yes guess who was in charge there too lol. clearly his haircut must check off one of their DEI boxes and they keep hiring this person.
@microbe_rz37-rn1dk2 ай бұрын
@@dypes26 This possibly started as a breech at Frontier Air and Allegiant Thursday afternoon..and spread...they weren't updating anything, it was meant to take machines offline before this did more damage...
@jag-s5g2 ай бұрын
George Kurtz, the CEO of crowdstrike was the CTO at mcafee when this happened in 2010. So fun fact, this has happened twice under his watch.
@microbe_rz37-rn1dk2 ай бұрын
@@jag-s5g That's another reason why Trump hates CrowdStrike. It was even on 60 minutes four years ago..
@yogawithsamantharose2 ай бұрын
As of 10:10am on Friday July 19th, How is "the biggest issue the brand damage" when 911 system, airline, hospital, and bank systems were/are out? Doubtless that there are people who suffered and possibly died from lack of medical treatment due to this. Really showing where your priorities lie, Dan Ives.
@robinflowe10662 ай бұрын
100%
@g.starkiller63542 ай бұрын
He's an investor not a politician, he's focused on making money not pleasing people with fake opinions. The topic was finances and the stock, not the moral implications
@chrissline-tx4lt2 ай бұрын
Who cares about your so called moral priorities. This is a channel about making money.
@MarekKolenda-cr8vr2 ай бұрын
Class action lawsuits against Microsoft internet disfunction
@LunaticTheCat2 ай бұрын
This is a finance channel...
@FishTalkFish2 ай бұрын
I am astonished how much talk there has been about the issue without ever mentioning exactly what went wrong. The wording has been it was a faulty update, but what exactly? Then it would be worth knowing exactly how that slipped through the cracks. If this is a publicly traded company that affects other publicly traded companies and institutions it should all be out there in the public eye.
@MorselOfBread2 ай бұрын
A few people, besides Dan Ives, on CNBC don't know the difference between "eco" and "echo".
@drumdotpizza2 ай бұрын
Doesn't Crowdstrike manage security for many of our states' voting systems? Gosh, what could possibly go wrong in November???
@rickedwards3652 ай бұрын
You don't believe that whoever the WEF oligarchs and progressive fascists select to run for the Dim Party will get the 90 million votes that will be necessary to defeat President Trump?
@RandomDude198682 ай бұрын
Is it too early to buy the dip or is it going much lower? How many lawsuits can we expect?
@frederichardy88442 ай бұрын
Any nuclear power plant using CrowdStrike software?
@georgesamaras29222 ай бұрын
they are gapped
@BlueLinkEnterprises2 ай бұрын
A Billion dollar company do not release code without testing... i think there is more to the story.! my 2 cents
@Flexipop762 ай бұрын
100%
@SW-fy8pq2 ай бұрын
American software has become a grave threat to world security.
@BlueLinkEnterprises2 ай бұрын
The reporter asked a very intelligent question for a non-IT person at 05:15 - why does this happen to Microsoft and not to Apple devices? Dan Ives explained that it's because of the Apple ecosystem, highlighting that Apple is less exposed on the corporate side and more focused on the consumer market. To expand on this, the underlying reason is that macOS is built on a UNIX foundation, specifically a variant of Unix called LINUX. Unix-based systems, including Linux and macOS, are renowned for their security and stability, which have been honed over decades. This secure foundation, originally developed by pioneers like Linus Torvalds (for Linux), provides a robust environment that is less susceptible to certain types of vulnerabilities. It's not just about Apple's innovations in Cupertino, but also about leveraging the strengths of Unix-like systems.
@nikitamcconnell80272 ай бұрын
I don’t know Jack but seems like Microsoft kinda sucks in terms of security, viruses and bugs
@mikeshaunnessey93032 ай бұрын
Somebody has to go through each and every machine affected at the local keyboard. How many individual Windows machines are at CNBC?
@estellegriggs16572 ай бұрын
OK THIS IS NOT A CYBER ATTACK ITS A SOFTWARE ISSUE BUT THEN AGAIN THIS IS MSCBS
@Maccccccc2 ай бұрын
If it has the same effect as a cyber attack it is an unintentional cyber attack.
@RickGee-t7b2 ай бұрын
Who is going to verify that the fix has been deployed ?
@kriterium1232 ай бұрын
Could this potentially bankrupt crowdstrike? The damages must be enormous
@brandonderrick0062 ай бұрын
Exaggerating to the max 😂
@archeops.2 ай бұрын
Even without lawsuits, their future revenue growth will be severely affected
@waynelast16852 ай бұрын
Nah, make the ecosystem stronger
@waynelast16852 ай бұрын
@@archeops.this happens all the time…. Just growing pains, get real
@Joeyb33f2 ай бұрын
Contracts state only refunds would be given. Individual corps will have to go through cyber insurance.
@RezSecOps2 ай бұрын
I work in cybersecurity, what the hell did I do?
@damonkatos42712 ай бұрын
You pressed the connect all button… kaboom.
@EnronnSierra2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the OT Crowdstrike.
@bluestarcesium2 ай бұрын
Is CrowdStrike a buy? CNBC needs to ask this question.
@m1nhhoang2 ай бұрын
Imagine that it happens to all computers within Tesla cars. All Tesla are stranded on the roads.
@bayareacarnatic2 ай бұрын
Finally CrowdStruck!!
@rayohope12 ай бұрын
There’s a glitch in the Matrix !!!!!!
@BDBD162 ай бұрын
No, there isn't you posted here just fine. move along
@okgotit41032 ай бұрын
This is why you shouldn’t monopolize cybersecurity giants. Doesn’t take much to shut the whole system down
@waynelast16852 ай бұрын
Just wait until Crowdstrike prevents an AI cybersecurity disaster.
@ChazSmithProductions2 ай бұрын
I find it Interesting to see how many people understand that a Single Point of Failure can be Catastrophic to a System and How Important it is to do Testing BEFORE Putting a Change Out Into Production, yet had no issues Mandating that All of Humanity be Forced to Take an Untested Experimental Gene-Therapy Injection and a Series of Untested Boosters.
@sirus3122 ай бұрын
Profits matter more
@nickgrace53632 ай бұрын
I was at Whole Foods today . 2 days later. Some of their Registers are still closed down due to frozen monitors blue screens still. The CEO lied 🤣 and said this was quickly resolved .
@malanalan12 ай бұрын
that was not an upgrade? They pushed configuration change. Their software is the biggest cybersecurity threat ever created!
@srourfamily2 ай бұрын
many more to come we can copy this soooooooooooo easy !! automatic will become manual in few days!!! thanks crowd strike what a junk company!!
@RezSecOps2 ай бұрын
In my world we patch in groups, we push to non-critical systems first. Give it a day to see if the update creates any issues within our network, then push to entire network.
@JJ-sz3xu2 ай бұрын
This... And critical systems get updated last.
@silverwolf68662 ай бұрын
that's not how their DEI groups work though.
@jerijordan_2 ай бұрын
We are overly dependent on tech. Life shouldn’t stop for personal, traveling and business. This is ridiculous! What if this starts happening every month/week then what’s the game plan???
@24theMoney2 ай бұрын
Just because you have a disclaimer of liability doesn't mean you cannot be sued.
@damonkatos42712 ай бұрын
Wait until Blackrock’s AI Aladdin goes haywire. You ain’t seen nothing yet.
@journalistedisoncarter2 ай бұрын
This is the terrifying yet hilarious moment where Steve Jobs would sit back in his chair, fume at the negligence and ineptitude, and turn to his COO and say from his room (just after taking a bite of an apple)..."Boys? It looks like we're going to get much deeper into enterprise solutions." Then he would go home and turn off all his electricity and play with lightning bugs for the night.
@d.b.11762 ай бұрын
Oh good, it was just an “issue” thanks Mr. CEO man.
@rickedwards3652 ай бұрын
Time for a class action lawsuit that will bankrupt CrowdStrike.
@earleyelisha2 ай бұрын
Would be ironic if CrowdStrike’s engineers were using Microsoft’s Copilot🤔💭
@gilbertoescamilla29932 ай бұрын
Doesn't Crowdstrike have a single ITIL certified person on their staff?? I guess they don't care about Change management. ☹
@mikeshaunnessey93032 ай бұрын
They involuntarily forced a software update that destroyed their clients ability to operate their business. They are screwed. What happened to SolarWind?
@keto67892 ай бұрын
"It's a get out the popcorn moment" .
@rosemariebredahl95192 ай бұрын
Learning opportunity: Too many eggs in one basket. Decentralize (& diversify back-up) for resilience. True for all vital systems & infrastructure.
@amt681052 ай бұрын
Crwodstrike CEO sold1.49 million $ of stock 3 days ago. I'll just leave it there.
@waynelast16852 ай бұрын
This will just make MLOPS more stronger.
@sanesanyo2 ай бұрын
Its wrong to call a failure of one company to test their software update adequately as a black eye for the whole sector. Also its not really a hack or attack, just a very costly mistake from the employees of Crowdstrike
@thetradersam61572 ай бұрын
Microsoft should do their own cybersecurity. Crowdstrike will have some serious financial issues in their hands in the next year or so, investors beware...
@ruthcherry31772 ай бұрын
Hospitals! This affects people's LIVES! All this is about it businesses - money. Sad.
@tringuyen75192 ай бұрын
Yes, EPIC software is currently down which affects 75% of the hospitals in US.
@CarolynP3762 ай бұрын
Also 911 emergency services.
@nathanielcradle-yourrichfriend2 ай бұрын
This happened in our own backyard…just imagine when this does become an attack on companies like this! Not sure how to view an investment opportunity yet…but there’s one lurking 👀
@walter_lesaulnier2 ай бұрын
That poor guy- he looks beat. I'm reminded of the movie Airplane! -"Looks like I picked a bad week to quit smoking... to quit drinking... to quit sniffing glue."
@maggsvamp2 ай бұрын
some CrowdStrike guy probably pushed an update live without sandbox testing it.
@ApocalypsoTron2 ай бұрын
Mac and Linux are not immune, it's only that it is easier to bypass security levels on Windows than on Mac and Linux. Crowdstrike has f-ed up on Linux before for example, but a Debian kernel update was quickly released, fixing the issue, and the impact was not as big because there are many more Windows systems being used in the corporation than Linux
@timmyjohns2222 ай бұрын
need less centralization not more. Wasnt kurtz with macfee when it had a major failure too.
@zlyuk2 ай бұрын
And that is in the middle of Kaspersky being pushed out of US market
@larrywu41342 ай бұрын
This is another classic case of putting all your eggs in one basket-like letting George Kurtz handle your McAfee updates. Once bitten, twice shy!" The CTO (Chief Technology Officer) of McAfee at the time of the 2010 faulty update incident was George Kurtz. This guy likes to make his mistakes twice.
@FrizzelFry2 ай бұрын
I was not very impressed in the clip with him - it did not seem like he realy thought of it like his probem - but more a probem of the customers
@LuckyInCards2 ай бұрын
They didn't test the update. Pure laziness. Samsung did the same this year; thousands of AT&T customers affected.
@suibinzhang67822 ай бұрын
Finally, the name-sake company does what it names, Strikes the internet!
@cecea6652 ай бұрын
Yall love that word “unprecedented” every year
@Richter6472 ай бұрын
WHY are our systems so vulnerable that if there's an disruption in one company, so many things go down within a whole continent? That's just crazy. It's is a recipe for a major disaster that's most likely just around the corner. Too many vital services depend on one internet company.
@johnnyjocoserious37332 ай бұрын
Redundancy costs money. Even if their customers were willing to pay more that money would go to shareholders and bonuses.
@TYSniper2 ай бұрын
Would've never happened with Blackberry.
@truetalk34652 ай бұрын
Selling ALL my CrowdStrike Stock....this is a epic disaster
@davidrogafeller74642 ай бұрын
AI comment
@tonig27572 ай бұрын
Apple has full control over what runs officially on kernel level because they have full control over the hardware and the software that runs it. Microsoft can't exercise the same level of control because it runs on 3rd party hardware along with 3rd party software.
@Scaythedhyponeros2 ай бұрын
everybody knows crowdstrike now, nice publicity
@Joeyb33f2 ай бұрын
Theyve been an industry leader for years. They didn't need this bad publicity.
@BlakeCerenzia2 ай бұрын
Sentinel one now doesn’t seem so bad 😂
@Tiggaknock2 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you allow huge corporations to dominate the market and monopolize.
@davidlowe85972 ай бұрын
Wonder if Crowdstrike used AI written code for the update that caused the glitch????
@Jkaninteangemittnamn2 ай бұрын
I assume yes - they need to fire the Ai , so much lies from all ai users latelty
@Chaotic_Order2 ай бұрын
Highly doubtful.
@melissazwieg29882 ай бұрын
Is our country safe now?😳
@strikezonefishingadventures2 ай бұрын
CrowdStrike screwed up on a massive level. Their IT Project Management Team dropped the ball in a disastrous manner. The only way this happens is that the appropriate levels of testing were not completed on a live test system from end to end prior to implementation. What a disaster. Now CrowdStrike has a major financial problem and a major credibility problem. They can most assuredly expect that they will be facing lawsuits demanding tens of millions of dollars in compensation and damages for this mess from customers around the world. Question is, are their pockets deep enough to cover this, or are they now facing insolvency as a result? Either way, expect a pile of customers are also going to be looking at alternative platforms, so a safe bet that they are going to be losing a pile of customers as well. No matter how you slice this, there are a pile of senior staff at CrowdStrike who can expect a pink slip in the coming days for absolute and total incompetence!!!!!
@danielwilcox63072 ай бұрын
It appears that there is a lack of understanding regarding cybersecurity among the individuals involved in this discussion and the news media outlet. The pundits seem to be overlooking the necessary defensive measures that should be taken. This interview was rather unproductive and lacked substance. It is concerning that they do not have the resources to consult with experts in the field.
@syte_y2 ай бұрын
Do they not do canary release? How you gonna blame the eng when it’s a process issue
@kirkk842 ай бұрын
“The real damage is the brand damage.” What a completely out of touch statement.
@VinayakDShenoy02 ай бұрын
This interview tells me Dan Ives knows little about stuff he is called to speak to..
@happilyretiredfrommerrill93572 ай бұрын
DAN IVES IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER CLOWN
@mrbuckmeister2 ай бұрын
This had nothing to do with the cloud or even Microsoft. This is a tool companies purchased from another company and installed themselves.
@Little-bird-told-me2 ай бұрын
Where is Satya Nadella? Why is CrowdStrike being made the scape goat ? Who collected the License fee for Windows ? Image your car broke and car maker says, speak to the spares guys
@banwa_non2 ай бұрын
Pushing to production on a Friday, and without testing, is just peak arrogance. Good thing I run my own Linux servers.
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures2 ай бұрын
Crowdstrike Incompetency or Cyberattack, either way, reveals flaws in the Internet's cyber security. I wonder what Apple's CEO is doing.
@jamesralston6652 ай бұрын
Apple is less exposed to security vulnerabilities not because of corporate control of the "ecosystem" but because the underlying architecture of the operating system is Unix and the way Unix was designed makes it far more resistant to the kinds of security vulnerabilities Microsoft cannot escape from after all these years. Unix was designed from the ground up to be a multi-user system and Windows is a single user system. Internally this makes Unix far more resistant and less vulnerable while Windows is highly promiscuous under the hood. No one who is creating serious software or running servers of any kind should be doing so on Windows. Windows should not run anything more critical than a laptop or a gaming computer.
@mpbetterlife2 ай бұрын
DRY RUN for Internet outage!!!! Preparing for November
@variable572 ай бұрын
Andrew interupts EVERY SINGLE GUEST THAT EVER GOES ON CNBC. He's so fking annoying.
@thisguy732 ай бұрын
Joe agrees
@SSD54302 ай бұрын
No. He cuts at the right point and moves the conversation with the right momentum while asking the right questions
@MarkJanssens-v4r2 ай бұрын
He's on a time crunch bite-sized news schedule, sweetie. Chill
@theeternalsw0rd2 ай бұрын
The biggest problem is all of these critical kiosks being Internet of Things. They should be isolated from the internet completely, querying updates that are cached on local servers. These servers should be developed in such a way that they can run on multiple operating systems and multiple hardware stacks so that no single update can take the whole system down. The problem almost always comes down to upper management not wanting to spend the money necessary to make that happen, though there are some idiot IT people out there too.
@FrogRunner4x42 ай бұрын
Sometimes the news only tells us “duh” information. A black eye moment? 😂
@srourfamily2 ай бұрын
wow frombinary code of 0 and 1 thanks crowdstrike now we can see you company!!!
@seekthetruthcheckthefacts45322 ай бұрын
There are already systems that allow rollback on reboot, but many companies sometimes do not ponder this scenario
@therealjohnshelburne2 ай бұрын
A complete overview of all processes and applications introduced in the past 3 months for this release. I have a feeling that they implemented a new artificial intelligence feature for their package delivery.
@Ancorarte2 ай бұрын
None of these mainstream news comment about the main issue: centralization, dumb centralization!
@Ancorarte2 ай бұрын
The jenius pundit predict more centralization 😂 you are comedians 😂
@whodywei2 ай бұрын
no one tested build before release ...
@FrizzelFry2 ай бұрын
yes, it is a sign of a bigger problem. The customer has to ask 'How could a vendor release a bug that was this easy to catch with testing ? '
@24theMoney2 ай бұрын
There is an individual working for Crowdstrike that Fkued up badly and cost the world Trillions today. Who is that persons? Name the name.
@bmla882 ай бұрын
Dont worry George Kurtz, if your company goes under you’ll still get your $200 million dollar bonus.