This is how seaweed farming can hurt the environment.

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@thesciencelair9556 Жыл бұрын

the problem isn't the seaweed, it's the bloated monocultures!!! like the video said, we can grow seaweed in a way that helps heal ecosystems, as long as it's done on a small scale and not in giant solid mats. The issues come from the way it's grown - spreading disease and altering climates are the consequences of this style of farming no matter what's being grown. Please try to listen and not be dismissive or pessimistic about this. "Everything we do hurts the environment" doesn't help anyone and it feels more like a convenient way to ignore problems and their solutions than anything well-meaning.

@iivin4233 Жыл бұрын

There are also ways to grow in desolate parts of the ocean. Or, I've seen ways proposed.

@Wabi-sabi8551 Жыл бұрын

Right on. All large scale monoculture is bad news, and can never be sustainable.

@johnlucas6683 Жыл бұрын

Same with farming, clearing land for one crop or few. Destroying ecosystems. It's the way world is for some time already, money makes the world go round, and corporations love money

@rmt3589 Жыл бұрын

This! Immediately came to the comments when the video started, as it Immediately sounded sus. The rest of the video proved that true.

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

@@johnlucas6683Can’t just blame the rich when the poor willingly and continuously buy their products and services. If the 99% would just go back to living like the Native Americans and other ancient cultures used to the 1% would stop being the 1%, but people are lazy and don’t want to live that way…

@prettybueno1255 Жыл бұрын

I swear, if Business Insider was around in the 1500s they’d say potatoes were unviable because of blight. HUGE surprise that growing crops with terrible tending and spacing practices leads to bad crops.

@GothCookie Жыл бұрын

Sooooo basically... everything in moderation

@ctdieselnut Жыл бұрын

The solution to pollution is dilution...

@BrowncoatGofAZ 2 ай бұрын

@@ctdieselnutand slow cessation of production.

@helenjohnson7583 Жыл бұрын

Like everything else, sustainably grown and harvested sea vegetables are much more expensive. But a little goes a long way. Know your products and their sources.

@jm329 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the same thing happens for regular farming. It’s a solvable issue. Stop trying to fear monger.

@jamesdagmond 11 ай бұрын

Strange, the issue is so simple yet conventional farming still obliterates the environment. Oh wait nevermind, you don't know what you're talking about.

@jm329 11 ай бұрын

@@jamesdagmond Yeah, they both have issues. What did you read into the comment? I am saying that the issues can be solved.

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

@@jm329the issues could be easily solved if we did things like terraformed and cultivated existing environments into even more flourishing ones by helping the environment not destroying it like they do to create farms/ranches. Some archaeologists think the amazon jungle could have been terraformed and cultivated by the maya and other cultures and that is entirely possible and would be able to feed millions of people if modern humans just weren’t lazy and actually hunted and foraged food.

@thanhavictus 11 ай бұрын

They aren't fear mongering they literally said that the problem was monoculture. It's educational and promotes polyculture

@Bigreek100 11 ай бұрын

Well, the point if information for those who haven't been around to know. It's important news. Like, I had no idea people were literally commercial farming seaweed IN the ocean...

@Lukavichiano Жыл бұрын

"Studies showed the disease spread easily between rafts that were placed too close together." Yeah, no shit.

@2003LN6 8 ай бұрын

true

@abdulalibux1416 6 ай бұрын

common sense is now "studies". Clickbait.

@jammiedodger7040 Жыл бұрын

It depends how seaweed is farmed.

@sophroniel Жыл бұрын

there are so many bad things that come from regular agriculture I think worrying about the tiny amount of seaweed farming (when compared to the enormity of the oceans) is negligible and shouldn't be of concern to anyone. Monocropping and destruction of virigin rainforests across the world are, however, much more worthy causes for concern.

@iivin4233 Жыл бұрын

We're gonna have to start building our own environments from scratch if we want to avoid altering these natural ones that we have found.

@GelloWello Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think this is a minimal loss compared to traditional land based agriculture. Maybe in the future if we find a more efficient and less environmentally harmful method, we need to pick the best option

@Changetheworld35 Жыл бұрын

We might have to move to another planet soon. I know the rich elites might. They have the money the vehicles and resources to do so.

@bok.. Жыл бұрын

Agriculture run off is the scariest issue. Especially with phosphorus, there's a limited supply on earth and we waste so much.

@Changetheworld35 Жыл бұрын

@@bok.. who wastes so much?? You mean Caucasian and European nations because indigenous cultures through out the world have historically revered and respected mother nature. They lived within the confines and limitations of nature.

@Changetheworld35 Жыл бұрын

@@bok.. they had a connection to thier lands. And most times they never took more than they needed.its greedy selfish Europeans that started to get away from nature and decided to change how humans live on the planet and relate to nature. Thier the ones that started the industrial revolution and market capitalism. These 2 things are the main cause of environmental degradation and destruction. Now you know.

@koholohan3478 Жыл бұрын

Seaweed farming is one of those things that will save the world.

@TheFakeyCakeMaker Жыл бұрын

Could. Could. Let's understand those words.

@crapizio Жыл бұрын

Great work as always! Please credit your video/image/audio sources with links in the description and/or a pinned comment.

@notmyfingers Жыл бұрын

Seaweed is incredibly sustainable if farmed in the right way. Sounds like ‘experts’ just want to get paid more

@Antifag1977 Жыл бұрын

I think it's impossible to do any large scale farming of any kind without there being some level of environmental disruption. That's not to say we should totally disregard the environmental impact but rather should remain mindful that's it's to some degree unavoidable.

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

It’s 100% unavoidable lol. Live like the Native Americans and ancient peoples did. Learn conservation and use renewable resources like wood to build things instead of metal and concrete. Treat the land like you would your garden and properly cultivate the already existing ecosystems instead of destroying them to build farms/ranches. Some people believe the Amazon jungle was terraformed and cultivated by the indigenous peoples and it’s entirely possible, it would just take time and energy that modern humans don’t want to put the effort into because humans have grown lazy.

@alanhat5252 11 ай бұрын

environmental impact, yes, but with careful consideration & management that impact can be beneficial.

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

@@alanhat5252yes exactly!!! :D

@0ldb1ll Жыл бұрын

The seashore around Worthing, Sussex used to be covered in seaweed and Climping, just along the coast used to have deep, sandy dunes. Since dredging the Channel to allow for bigger ships, the seaweed has gone, along with the inshore fish and the sandy dunes. There is severe coastal errosion and the beach has to be annually replenished with lorryloads of pebbles.

@ctdieselnut Жыл бұрын

I think sand in/around water will naturally go to a 45° slope eventually if left alone. Depending on what shape they left the channel after dredging, they may be adding quite a bit more material before it stabilizes. Sounds like a real clusterfuck. Increasingly large ships need to get where they are going, and sometimes there is unforeseen consequences to construction. I know it sucks to see what was a previously undisturbed natural habitat get turned into a barren scar in the earth, but it's all done to benefit the end users of whatever products those ships carry. If the dredging was done incorrectly or carelessly, thats one thing, but for all i know its going exactly to plan(doesn't sound like it). Erosion is a pretty well understood phenomena, usually engineers account for it, but sometimes it gets away from them. It comes down to corporations wanting bigger profits, and consumers wanting to buy shit. Everyone in the developed world is on one side or the other of this. If you saw all the externalities any given product leaves behind by the time it's for sale, we'd think twice about buying it. Companies know this, its why "sustainably sourced" is now such a trendy marketing term. Is buying one less t shirt going to stop the next canal from being dredged? Probably not. But if we apply that same logic over millions of products, it starts to make a difference. (I once read it takes 20k gallons of water to grow the cotton to make one shirt, what impact has diverting that much water to a farm somewhere had on the environment?) I like having all the luxuries of the developed world. They making living life more enjoyable. I think everyone is starting to become aware of biosphere consciousness, maybe within a lifetime we'll all start voting with our wallets to see the change we all talk about and want. Maybe not, but acknowledging a problem is the first step.

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

@@ctdieselnutthat’s the problem, modern humans are lazy and want luxuries that they don’t need to survive or even thrive. Ex: the Mayan and Aztec civilizations had millions more people than even that of Europe in the same time periods and yet “were savages with inferior knowledge and technology.” Some people theorize that the Amazon was even terraformed and cultivated by the indigenous peoples but just grew out of proportion that’s why it’s so big. With modern technology we could do the same things and stop destroying ecosystems.

@TheKitsuneOnihane 11 ай бұрын

People need to stop using "decimate." There's other great words for "lots of destruction." However, reports I found reported losses of 15% between 2012 and 2013, so well done.

@elladoz1966 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing 🙂

@IberianCraftsman 11 ай бұрын

seaweed releases spores that feed the microplancton, basically the larvae of crabs, fish and all kinds of animals, its the start of the foodchain.

@Lavafish2525 11 ай бұрын

The top comment about monocultures needs this echo and more. Just like we rotate our crops or even better grow them together in symbiosis on land we can do the same in the sea

@RaeezTheDeadPoet Жыл бұрын

If you take all the seaweed, whats gonna happen to the stone(r)fish 😢

@thesciencelair9556 Жыл бұрын

the ocean provides plenty to share for us and the fish - part of the reason why seaweed is such a wonderful thing to grow is that it's evolved to thrive most when the ecosystem is thrown out of balance.

@Robert_McGarry_Poems Жыл бұрын

@@thesciencelair9556Whoosh! That flew right over your head. Stoner fish, weed... sea weed. Lol. It was a joke my dude.

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

oh oops sorry-

@amadiohastruck4331 Жыл бұрын

Everything hurts the environment. Even the environment hurts the environment.

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

The environment does not hurt the environment. It does not know how to, it only knows how to balance itself out. “Perfectly balanced as everything should be.”

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

I think what they meant was that horrible things can happen no matter what. I agree with that, but the horrific consequences of modern capitalism and colonialism are on a scale so much greater than almost all of the tragedies of the past. That's why we need to fight them and build a more sustainable world where we can all live. Remember we are part of the ecosystem always, and a keystone species when we embrace it.

@eli-173 11 ай бұрын

Cool, just need to set a guideline.

@TeamRogers7 Жыл бұрын

Seaweed is Awesomely Perfect!

@oppertunist-trader Жыл бұрын

People prefer the land version of this planet. It's medicinal.

@AC-hj9tv Жыл бұрын

Yes landweed

@oppertunist-trader 11 ай бұрын

@@AC-hj9tv😂😂

@patrickodea6500 19 сағат бұрын

Crazy, one video i see is a company making plastic out of seaweed to save the environment, and next i see this saying seaweed farms cause major problems. No wonder why we’re going insane

@fishingculture9125 Жыл бұрын

we need them at Puertorico

@jessepaynter3752 Жыл бұрын

Also dumping iron rust into the ocean is helpful

@Margoshaka 11 ай бұрын

It is relatively small territory and main light access is on the surface of ocean

@pritangshudutta3819 4 күн бұрын

Atleast it would be better than plastic on the sea, plastic also blocks sunlight, if underwater ecosystem can survive in plastic, it can thrive under seaweed

@anthonyjensen5524 Жыл бұрын

Bro how come anybody tries to find a way to make basic survival feasible some scientist come along to point out "the unintended consequences". Like earth is important but is human life not??

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

Human life is far far less important than Mother Nature. If all the ecosystems collapse because of humans than us humans will go extinct in a flash. Why do you think NASA and Astronomers are so focused on finding a planet similar enough to Earth so we can live there too? Where do you think everything comes from, do you think it just appears?

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

Human life IS nature. We are part of the ecosystem and we matter for the same reason why every other living thing does. We're a keystone species when we embrace it. This kind of self hate does nothing to solve the real problems, it just makes people feel bad and hopeless. It contributes to the root cause, capitalism, by distracting us from the fact that we do have the power to create change. Please don't isolate us from our world, our relatives. I understand this way of thinking because I used to agree, but spreading your pessimism is more harmful than helpful if you want to help cultivate a more sustainable and equitable world.

@DanteTimberwolf Жыл бұрын

Oh lord is there anything we do that *doesn't* hurt the environment? I swear to god people are always nagging about everything and how it hurts the environment.

@thesciencelair9556 Жыл бұрын

yes there is!!! please have hope!!! the world we live in right now makes it so hard for us to avoid doing harm, because we've been giving all the power to people who don't care one bit. It really is horrifying to learn about where so much of what we have comes from, but traditionally it wasn't nearly this bad, and not just because there weren't as many of us. If you look at why we do this harm it almost always comes from colonialism or capitalism. We can build a better world. It's frustrating to hear about so many problems but it's important not to dismiss them as "nagging" because they really do exist and we really can fix them.

@mella8298 Жыл бұрын

@@thesciencelair9556I love you optimism and hope. I sincerely hope you're right. Agree re capitalism and colonialism as well. ❤

@Itsmejesse-x365d 11 ай бұрын

Yea yeah clean up the garbage patch before attacking sushi and that weed

@dictatorjames7033 Жыл бұрын

Next thing you know they're gonna be like " Walking is good because it reduces carbon emissions from vehicles, but scientists warn that large increases in walking could desturb the environment by increasing the death of insects underfoot." At this point, lets just stop leaving our houses, eating and drinking. That way we can all die and these "experts" can finally be happy

@evil1by1 Жыл бұрын

They already do that. I guess walking is a problem because animals are spooked by our presence and it disturbs their feeding/mating/nesting habits and makes them move which burns calories and they die. Absolutely bonkers. This is why I no longer listen to environmentalists. Why would you take advice from people who do not have your best interests at heart and actively hate you and want you dead?

@studiohq Жыл бұрын

or just be aware of pitfalls so that you don't make costly mistakes. Also, be careful of the ecosystems you walk through

@vooteimer1234 Жыл бұрын

Yep

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

Says the one that doesn’t understand conservation and how much us humans actually need the ecosystems lol. Sorry but the plants and animals are 1000X more important than humans 🤷🏻. You don’t need to drive around in a gas guzzling vehicle you were born with feet for a reason. You don’t need a cell phone or computer when you can write a letter and have it delivered by bird or horseback. Farming/ranching destroys ecosystems and kills millions of animals. Most things in the modern world are not needed at all, humans just want them so they can be lazy.

@woaken 11 ай бұрын

Agenda 2030 WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM PLAN

@Ltb4C5aIl8 11 ай бұрын

Its nice to see people being themselves and not blindly listen to bulsittery..

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

i agree!!! there's been so much more awareness of how media and corporations can manipulate us lately, it's really great to see

@bigpicklerick Жыл бұрын

The world is going to be fine.

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

only if we make it that way

@bigpicklerick 11 ай бұрын

@@thesciencelair9556 no you don't Understand the world has gone through worse and is going to go through worse long after humans are gone. Only a narcissist would think humans are greater then all the other things that are Fossil now and won't end up in the same place. Weather it's our own hand or a rock from space .

@oppertunist-trader Жыл бұрын

Can be a source of Good side income for farmers though.

@barneyw9529 11 ай бұрын

Soooooooooo.... Have a little bit of space between the rafts. Problem solved.

@ButINowant2Binfluencer Ай бұрын

Is the income worth the necessary investments to properly run a seaweed farm?

@dandavatsdasa8345 9 ай бұрын

There is a need for monoculture farming to correct shortcomings and imperfections.

@cristsan4171 Жыл бұрын

That is why pollution is proftit. Extinction of anything = affordable prices for the rich solely

@truebluekit Жыл бұрын

Raise cows, damage the environment. Raise fish, damage the environment. Plant grass, damage the environment. Just live, damage the environment. I'm starting to get pissed at the environment. But seriously... some people will never be happy no matter what.

@thesciencelair9556 Жыл бұрын

I agree we shouldn't blame individual average people, but these are real problems. They come from us giving power to people who don't care about the consequences of anything they do, and they're the same people who we've tasked with providing us with everything we need, so of course everything we do supports their awful actions! It's the fault of the way these things are done, not just the fact that they're done at all. Living isn't wrong but the way we as a society do it is. Traditionally we lived so much more sustainably until capitalism and colonialism ruined it. Please have hope that we can do it again!!!

@evil1by1 Жыл бұрын

@@thesciencelair9556thats communist magic savage bullshit. There was never a time in any past on this planet where people lived in the numbers they do now and lived to be 80 with an almost 0 infant mortality rate. If you like things like not spending 18 hours a day scratching at the dirt to only have 3 out of 4 of your kids die of starvation and disease then shut up. Commercial farming is so bountiful it frees up something like 97 percent of us to do other things like art, science, recreation, education. It keeps billion and billions comfortably fed and capitalism brought you every single good thing in life. Yeah its not fair but its a hell of alot more fair than communism and feudalism. Nobody is doing shit for free so get off your ass and do something people want to pay for if your so mad your broke.

@MuhammedAjmalAp Ай бұрын

8 billion Humans(especially west /USA people who alone use 25-70% all resources with extreme less people) are the problems

@amirhad6594 Жыл бұрын

Are we really talking about the environmental impact on seaweed while soy is a thing?

@closetgrower Жыл бұрын

And cargill owns most of it

@oppertunist-trader Жыл бұрын

Seaweed does not need water. It needs sea water. It does not need land(area). It need ocean area. 😂

@joannadrozdz3848 11 ай бұрын

My gosh...they'll always find problem in everything...

@michaellaviolette1948 Жыл бұрын

Wow seems to me that nature has it under control

@xunconi1927 Жыл бұрын

Sea weed or sea moss?

@savalynjones8336 Жыл бұрын

Same..thimg..somethings has more than one name.

@Zayskibop Жыл бұрын

Capitalism gotta go yall!

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

YES FINALLY THANK YOU

@nadiaquest6796 Жыл бұрын

I guess we just shouldn't eat anything. Give me a break.

@LUCTIANITO Жыл бұрын

be like "lets save the enviroments" and then the unintended consequences: "not on my watch"

@manjugurung5092 11 ай бұрын

good jab farmers carla

@MEAT_CANNON Жыл бұрын

I don't eat it. Problem solved on my end.

@realgrilledsushi Жыл бұрын

Great, now they blaming seaweed farming😂

@mella8298 Жыл бұрын

"Now"? With advances in science comes greatly increased knowledge about how ecosystems interact. It's not like they thought "what piece of information can we impose on the masses today to make them feel bad?"

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

they kinda did though- that's how these companies work, they provoke strong emotions on purpose so we're invested enough to come back. Also, I agree that the negative aspects of seaweed farming methods aren't the biggest problem in the world but it is good to learn about how we can improve as a society.

@vincelyndonbuma-at6119 5 ай бұрын

Now vegan had a problem on it

@oppertunist-trader Жыл бұрын

Nobody in India eats it. So nobody is concerned about it.

@rupeshchandrapal277 10 ай бұрын

Instead of this... Stop hunting and eating tonnes of sea creatures.

@SallyMelocot Жыл бұрын

With the rush and anguish to “help” environment with new way =resulting in an other problem to fix ! From a place of fear , rush , anguish not good

@jasminepetal3972 Жыл бұрын

Just place em fartger apart ???

@thomasbudianto-qn5jh Жыл бұрын

I only click this because the thumbnail looks like from video game.😅

@fazestorm4441 11 ай бұрын

😮 you have to like see where you to care to want to grow that much

@fazestorm4441 11 ай бұрын

Seaweed is just another commodity to exploit I'm not the kind of person who could exploit anything like that

@Bigreek100 11 ай бұрын

Why aren't they growing them indoors😑... why... just... WHY.... over producing a single species out in the ecosystem will easily hurt the ecosystem...

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

so does building a huge structure to house it. Seaweed creates habitat and helps clean pollution, so it does things we need now more than ever. The ecosystem is already growing more seaweed on its own than it used to, and seaweed farming is just using that to also create sustainable food that competes with conventional agriculture.

@Bigreek100 11 ай бұрын

@@thesciencelair9556 you have a point, but so long as businesses don't farm in a monoculture, you don't need to build huge structures to grow many seaweed species

@YourTypicalMental 11 ай бұрын

Can we please have a cheap, low effort way to feed the planet that can't be undone by Human incompetence or greed? Like, float those raft to deeper waters so that we dont have to worry about them blocking the sun?

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

I don't think there's anything that can't be undone by incompetence or greed- that's why capitalism can't exist in a sustainable world. It amplifies those things and their power. We can't live in harmony with a system designed to maximize exploitation!!!

@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547 11 ай бұрын

No matter what you do , there will always be some problems 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@barbaramcdowell3973 Жыл бұрын

YOU THINK 🤔😜❤️💯🖖😎

@YathishShamaraj Жыл бұрын

Everything we do has unintended consequences 😅😅 why bother...

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

So you want your children or grandchildren or great grandchildren etc etc to have to live on a Mars like planet because us humans destroyed the ecosystems?

@YathishShamaraj 11 ай бұрын

@@black_hand78 for me, this life is a game, you play till you expire, but after you expire it doesn't matter what happens to Earth or my DNA in the human population...

@YathishShamaraj 11 ай бұрын

BTW am not married, don't plan to and definitely won't have any of my DNA left behind when i leave ☺️🙏

@black_hand78 11 ай бұрын

@@YathishShamaraj you can still think of the other people. You don’t have to actually care about them at all, I personally don’t, but Ik there are lots of people that don’t want their descendants to live in a shitty world.

@thesciencelair9556 11 ай бұрын

this kind of thinking is hurting you. The climate and biodiversity crises directly affect us all and by refusing to help end them, and encouraging others to do the same by spreading this attitude, you're actively choosing to be complacent in them.