This is how you silence a new server...

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Using a set of Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Fans, I was able to drastically reduce the should level of my new server, Loki!
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@ikkuranus
@ikkuranus 5 жыл бұрын
When I reached out to Noctua with the same problem they said to reuse the fans from Zeus
@johnworoniuk477
@johnworoniuk477 5 ай бұрын
Best comment
@abn0rm1
@abn0rm1 5 жыл бұрын
40mm fans for psus are easily replaced, just make sure you get the right size fans. And dont touch anything else than the fans. They are sometimes soldered directly to the board, cut cables and splice. I currently use noctua 40mm fans in my hp dl360 server psu's.
@BigNameJamesStuff
@BigNameJamesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same upgrade in my 1u PSU included in my U-NAS. Super easy upgrade, just be extremely careful because you can legitimately kill yourself if you mess up.
@brianfrank4156
@brianfrank4156 Жыл бұрын
Do your PSUs overheat though? Since there is less airflow and air pressure
@abn0rm1
@abn0rm1 Жыл бұрын
@@brianfrank4156 cooling in psus are rarely an issue, unless you've got a really dense rack with bad airflow.
@brianfrank4156
@brianfrank4156 Жыл бұрын
@@abn0rm1 Aight, thanks!
@leahlambert5737
@leahlambert5737 Жыл бұрын
I did this to my cctv nvr psu a lot better
@IntermitTech
@IntermitTech 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I recently did a video on replacing the fans in my 100TB server from stock to Noctua and that made a real difference. I made some graphs of all disk temperatures before and after and not only are the Noctua fans quieter (and have a much more pleasant noise profile) at full speed (still much quieter) the disks where also cooler then with the noisy stock fans, so that was a win-win!
@Anaerin
@Anaerin 5 жыл бұрын
As a note, resting the dB meter/Phone against the case is probably a bad way of getting measurements - the vibrations from the case will transfer to the phone and make it seem a lot louder. You might want to have it on a tripod, or another table/chair/something not connected to what you're trying to measure.
@jbdragon3295
@jbdragon3295 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Johnston Ya, I was thinking the same thing.
@NextLevelCode
@NextLevelCode 5 жыл бұрын
Warning Noctua is a bad choice for people if they are using real server grade motherboards for a cpu fan. From their own site “Noctua PWM fans feature a minimum speed of 300rpm to allow for ultra quiet operation when your CPU is at idle state and doesn’t require higher cooling performance. Some mainboards display error messages such as “CPU fan error” during the booting process when the fan speed is below a certain level. If you get such error messages using your Noctua PWM fan and if such options are available in your BIOS, please either adjust the minimum fan speed monitoring limit to 200rpm or increase the minimum PWM duty cycle. If your BIOS doesn’t offer these options, please disable CPU fan errors. For detailed information on BIOS fan settings, please consult your mainoard’s manual or contact your mainboard manufacturer.” Problem is most server grade boards won’t let you ignore a CPU fan error automatically. This means you will always be stuck pressing a key to continue at boot. I ran into this problem with my server and had to do some hacks to make it work.
@civil2912
@civil2912 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing the new fans! That was a big improvement. Decibels are on a logarithmic scale. Definitely looking forward to any solutions you may come up with for your power supply fans.
@vBDKv
@vBDKv 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since I purchased Noctua fans and cpu coolers some 10 years ago, I've never used anything else in my builds. Not only are the fans silent and move a ton of air, they are also pleasant to listen to. Most fans have a really high pitch noise if you listen to it, but Noctua fans have a low pleasant hum. Oh and a 6 year no questions asked warranty.
@jamesmandl9302
@jamesmandl9302 5 жыл бұрын
I just built a 140TB media server and used a 4U compact case, an 850 watt EVGA PSU connected to a 1500 watt UPS for power redundancy rather than a dual PSU, a low profile dual Noctua 140mm cooler(NH-C14S) (2x NF-A14 PWM), and 4x 80mm Noctua fans (NF-A8 PWM) (2 on the backplane and 2 on the back of the case). At idle it is almost inaudible and at full speed they are still quieter than many off the shelf PCs. The ceiling fan makes more noise in my office. Noctua fans are worth every penny!
@Felix-ve9hs
@Felix-ve9hs 5 жыл бұрын
The Noctua NF-A12x25 are the best Fans in the World Change my mind
@vBDKv
@vBDKv 4 жыл бұрын
I'm STILLLLLL waiting for the 140mm variant :(
@ariefhidayat2157
@ariefhidayat2157 Жыл бұрын
this is just 1.4w it's a joke this noting compared to my ebmpapst 300w if this fan standing in front of ebmpaost fan noctua fan will thown away by 300w of power LOL
@edwardgreenjr167
@edwardgreenjr167 5 жыл бұрын
Just please please PLEASE make sure the airflow rating on those replacement 40mm PSU fans match similar to the ones you are yanking out. Last thing you need is a overheating 1U PSU in your server rack. If anything, it would be even more of a reason to run all 4 PSUs, regardless of the final build. You'll spread the load across them and they will not have to work as hard/generate as much heat.
@lawsonj65
@lawsonj65 5 жыл бұрын
So basically you knew your PSU was loud...got Noctua to sponsor and get new case fans, only achieved 10 db quieter, when it seems replacing the PSU fans would have made it even quieter without Noctuas help.
@nightcorefusion3884
@nightcorefusion3884 5 жыл бұрын
I've swapped the 40mm fans in 1U PSUs before. It's easy and relatively safe. Just make sure you only take apart what you need to and you'll be fine.
@lunchie80
@lunchie80 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've done PSUs in Pcs and one in a Hikvision NVR. The hardest needed a plug soldered onto the new fan from the old one. Even the PSUs aren't hard, a few screws and just be careful. You can mostly discharge them by unplugging them and then push the on button on the case.
@NextLevelCode
@NextLevelCode 5 жыл бұрын
I shocked myself once when I was replacing a psu in a iMac. They are not covered with any protection. It hurt like a bitch but I survived just fine. My take away is be more careful to not touch the other side of the pcb where the caps are soldered. However if someone is really worried about it just get a couple clip wire and attach it to ground with a resitor in the line to discharge.
@outlawman007
@outlawman007 5 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelCode or just wear rubber gloves :D
@asdf51501
@asdf51501 3 жыл бұрын
That's still pretty dang loud even with the Noctua fans. Big improvement though. Anyone aware of a near silent 2U server?
@mattscheurman1616
@mattscheurman1616 4 жыл бұрын
I did this with my server as well...although at a higher cost since you know...I'm not sponsored lol. I agree though that the Noctua fans are amazing in regards to their high air flow and lack of noise.
@lunchie80
@lunchie80 5 жыл бұрын
Silenced a sever case super cheaply by getting rubber backed carpet tiles and siliconing/sikaflex them to the large flat metal panels. They add a lot of mass AND the carpet damps noise at the same time. Only like $5 a tile if that. If they get dusty, just vacuum them haha. Just cut them into shapes that cover whatever flat sheet metal can be covered. My server lid went from being a noisy piece of sheet metal to a solid plate. Hdd noise especially was almost inaudible too except with my head against the intakes. This is of course on top of nice fans. My server uses all Noctua and is inaudible. The only thing I ever hear is the GPU fans when it's transcoding/encoding hard. And that's pretty quiet(gtx 1060)
@tootone
@tootone 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but pro tip. Pull one of the power supplys partly out. With the slot unpopulated the alarm is now longer armed:}
@user-dr2pg8fk2i
@user-dr2pg8fk2i 11 ай бұрын
Bad part is those PSUs are where the bulk of the noise is coming from.
@UnkyjoesPlayhouse
@UnkyjoesPlayhouse 5 жыл бұрын
being loud is one thing, what is the power consumption on this beast 250-350 watts?
@wulliewheelspin1
@wulliewheelspin1 5 жыл бұрын
Loki is coming along nicely.looking forward to the next video.
@Im1CrazyCow
@Im1CrazyCow 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, its Funny you mentioned those power Supply Fans BC I think those are the same 40 x40 mm size in my Netgear 48 Port POE Switch or if not they might be very close, I am told they are 1 U fans and the Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX 3- pin are the best replacement for mine (to kill sound too & will fit in mine) Noctua also make a thinner version if i remember right of you need it but ask Noctua they might be able to help or know the size and why BE scared , go find a Replacement Power supply in-case you F it up and then take it apart, ive seen what you can do you might need to soldier but i bet you can replace them with the same fans im looking at now from NOctua! this Fan type is very common in all these electronics to dont sweat it man, Im just short on the money due to money hospital bills but there are $20 a piece just to let you know and I need 4 so im gonna hope to get mine B4 the one thats screaming now dies if not it might over heat and that aint gonna happen if push comes to shove! Cow}:-o)PS look at fan end if it says DC brushless its probably same fans as mine they are the 9000 rpm screaming beasts !!
@garytill
@garytill 5 жыл бұрын
I use the NF-A4x20 FLX in my 10gig switch, they are super quiet but don't move anywhere near as much air as the stock fans, so as long as you are OK with slightly higher temps, or aren't running under high load they work great.
@Im1CrazyCow
@Im1CrazyCow 5 жыл бұрын
Howdy Gary that's what I will be using in my Net Gear POE switch, it has 4 10 gig sockets & can be Combined at 1 to use just 1 with the Special Adapters to make it a 40 GB , blah blah blah.......the Thing is GARY is that it Only has 2 Exhaust Fans which I have confirmed when I opened it up they are 9000 rpm Beast fans and scream Like the 1 U fans on Jason's New Locke. When I opened up my Switch I saw it had 2 more holes on the end where my fans were now im going to replace with 4 NF-A4x20 Flx fans and on the other Side it has 4 holes Covered with plates for intake Fans im guessing are when/or if it was used in Full 10 Gig beast mode. I would Love for Noctua to Sponsor Me 8 of those Fans BC they are $20 Bucks a Pop from Amazon & im going to put all 8 in BC 10 Gig is Coming sooner than most know BC of the High Tech Demand here in Tampa Bay Now with 100k new homes being built in last 5 yrs or so and out Back Bone is getting Pushed hard and I want to be ready if what Ive been told comes to the for front in 2-3 years...as for the Temps I think it will be lower BC i will have much more air flow going and coming ......im more so wanting the Whine to STOP when they hit 7500k to 8500K Rpms its brutal so im hoping the Noctua fans will stop that even if they only Run at 1800 rpm i think spec sheet said, But as I said ill have 8 so if this is Not enough Air Flow I might just Fabricate A top or Bottom Case plate to allow me to Put either the 200 MM fans or maybe 4 140's on top and 4 140's on the underside , I will just need to move it in my Rack but that's small price to pay to cool it down to almost ambient temp in my Air Conditioned Server Room/Walk in closet side of my Ex wife...lol. Cow}:-o)
@MindStarsSoulStops
@MindStarsSoulStops 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in a how to video for the power supplies and where I could find the fans.
@8xpdhpckkg
@8xpdhpckkg 5 жыл бұрын
The new Threadripper should come out November 5th according to a leak. I can't wait myself since i'm building a server as well =D
@redsplayhouse2105
@redsplayhouse2105 2 жыл бұрын
That's old news
@8xpdhpckkg
@8xpdhpckkg 2 жыл бұрын
@@redsplayhouse2105 Yes... two years in fact
@L0rDLuCk
@L0rDLuCk 5 жыл бұрын
will the noise level be the same if all harddrives are installed? because they restrict the airflow quite a lot! And they vibrate...
@L0rDLuCk
@L0rDLuCk 5 жыл бұрын
@TheGamerX Not necessarily, you can put in all the drives in and don't power them on so you can see if the noise level goes up. on the other hand, if the rest of the sound emitters are louder than harddrives you maybe also don't hear a difference.
@L0rDLuCk
@L0rDLuCk 5 жыл бұрын
@TheGamerX to see if the noise level goes up just because of the restricted airflow. that was my question .. we are spinning in a circle ...
@thetechcorner7204
@thetechcorner7204 3 жыл бұрын
*laughs in ssd*
@OutsiderDreams
@OutsiderDreams 4 жыл бұрын
Jason, you say nothing about the amount of air the Noctua fans can move. Sure they are quieter, but do they still provide the same amount of cooling?
@danieltracy5559
@danieltracy5559 5 жыл бұрын
The dB scale is not a linear scale. I believe it’s a logarithmic scale. So, it’s difficult to compare differences.
@briancarnell
@briancarnell 5 жыл бұрын
OMG
@MaiTayFoX
@MaiTayFoX 5 жыл бұрын
Simple rule of thumb : +3 dB = x2 power +10 dB = x10 power To get +23 dB (10+10+3) makes 10*10*3 = 200 times more loud.
@warrend114
@warrend114 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you realize that 3dB is considered double the sound pressure level. Just to put that into perspective
@CouchCoach
@CouchCoach 5 жыл бұрын
Noctua has 40mm fans as well. You could try these in your psus.
@SteveOwensRoswell
@SteveOwensRoswell 5 жыл бұрын
Noctua products are outstanding. Thanks for sponsoring the video.
@AustinMichael
@AustinMichael 5 жыл бұрын
I also prob would have went with the industrial noctua fans. Also supermicro makes a super quiet model of psu. I don't know for sure if they would work in this server but if they do then that would be the easiest alternative if you don't want to be tearing psu's open.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of volumetric flow rates were you getting with your original fan and what's the volumetric flow rate that you're able to get now with the Noctua fans? I have the same problem with my 2U server which consists of four, half-width blade nodes. My system has four 80x80x38 mm fans which delivers over 170 m^3/h in terms of volumetric flow rate, whereas the Noctua fans can only muster up a max of 55.5 m^3/h, or less than 1/3rd of what I need. Pity. I don't have the space to quadruple stack them because of the half-width, effectively 1U height per node.
@jamesblevins4428
@jamesblevins4428 4 жыл бұрын
Now I need to mod all my devices with Noctua!
@asdf51501
@asdf51501 3 жыл бұрын
I did that back in like 2013. I'll never build a PC without them.
@DIYReid
@DIYReid 5 жыл бұрын
I see Unraid sent you a shirt finally.
@arete_
@arete_ 8 ай бұрын
Aren't the drives making like a thousand times more noise than the fans?
@lakorai2
@lakorai2 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad that case doesnt support standard ATX power supplies or even 2u power supplies. Those are way quieter than the 1u units in there.
@KannonRomano
@KannonRomano 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I did to my unraid/Plex server, took out some crappy molex fans and put in noctua fans
@DIYReid
@DIYReid 5 жыл бұрын
I love Noctua fans!
@techpanda2022
@techpanda2022 5 жыл бұрын
So for $180 you can reduce the maximum noise output by 9db...
@JackPS9
@JackPS9 5 жыл бұрын
What would people suggest for 80mm fans?
@johnversluis3084
@johnversluis3084 5 жыл бұрын
MAN I love Noctua fans and Coolers are the best !!!!!! Great content keep it up
@tomhud2022
@tomhud2022 5 жыл бұрын
U tried the be quiet case I brought one the other day and I hear nothing from my computer It's not called Be Quiet for nothing as for working for a server no idea as it's not a server case :)
@PhillRengers
@PhillRengers 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried removing the unused power supplies? That's what I did with my Supermicro.
@Dad_duramaxben4
@Dad_duramaxben4 5 жыл бұрын
Is there anything stopping you from simply replacing the entire power supply? You have plenty of room in the case. You could still have two for redundancy
@ezwider4652
@ezwider4652 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the final build video?
@David_Quinn_Photography
@David_Quinn_Photography 5 жыл бұрын
great video Noctua is amazing their fans are not very nice but I will take quality over looks any day of the week.
@mike2614
@mike2614 5 жыл бұрын
They are quite but isbit cooler??
@goldbrick2751
@goldbrick2751 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, any idea how I can quite down my IBM X3650 M4 please!!!!
@Naddel81able
@Naddel81able 5 жыл бұрын
What about the CPU fans? Edit: had to watch until the end of the video. Lol :)
@devakritbagchi2787
@devakritbagchi2787 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just remove to fans to make the server stop making nose at all?
@Markyroson
@Markyroson 4 жыл бұрын
What are your server specs? Just curious.
@Pabula
@Pabula 5 жыл бұрын
It’s time to mod the psu, get some nf a40 , just check if it uses pwn or dc.
@mrq332
@mrq332 Жыл бұрын
same RPM?
@gearspider
@gearspider 5 жыл бұрын
Hey could you do a video outlining how you name your media folders and files? For instance, with TV shows, I tend to add the resolution and codec information to each Season directory folder if I have said Season in the same quality.. I also have my TV shows split up into genres, eg. '/Shows/Sci-Fi/The Expanse/Season 01 [2160p-265]/The Expanse S01E01 Dulcinea [2160p-265].mkv' .. Would this conflict with Plex?
@Durianpieenthusiast
@Durianpieenthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
Please do an assessment of Jellyfin!
@leahlambert5737
@leahlambert5737 Жыл бұрын
This don't work with all servers tho
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, we got burned buying an Itanium 2 and ended up with a server that was way too loud and created too much heat to run in an office, and didn't even run ProxMox. So we'll never buy one of these rack mounted servers ever again. Take my advice and avoid this server jwnk, unless you want to run an air conditioner full time too in a whlie seperate locked up room, and just buy desktop units and use them as servers instead. None of these guys will warn you about, how loud this stwpid rack mounted server junk is. Like having a jet engine running all the time, it really irks you and gets on your nerves because you can hear your electricity bill running up.
@Davisaur
@Davisaur 5 жыл бұрын
love noctua. best fans
@shadez7650
@shadez7650 5 жыл бұрын
Where or who could I talk to in order to set I up the 24U rackmount media and home automation server? I am building a server room in the basement of our home we plan on building in the next year. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
@btw111
@btw111 5 жыл бұрын
It depends on where you are located. IIRC Jason is in Kansas, however I doubt he is for hire. Generally speaking there are several AV / integration companies that would help with your theatre setup, and IT companies that can help with your server setup. Likely you'll find a company that does both!
@shadez7650
@shadez7650 5 жыл бұрын
@@btw111 Thanks. I wasn't looking for jason, just looking for some information or guidance from others of who or where I can find someone/company I could speak with about my ideas, cause I want them to work with the builders so everything can be set as soon as we move into our forever home (cause Im not moving anymore). Thanks for the suggestion/guidance. If you have any other ideas, please let me know. Thanks again.
@btw111
@btw111 5 жыл бұрын
@@shadez7650 No problem. Ultimately it depends on your locale for exactly what set of contractors/companies you want to look for. Here in the Midwest (in the states), there are tons of low voltage contractors that do a widespread similar list of things. (I work in this general field.) Most commonly the AV contractors will be the ones you want to lean towards in your situation, likely leaving you only left with building a server. Make sure you don't overlook building out your structured cabling (ot at least a strong wired network!) It's always easier to run "all of the things" before the sheetrock goes up; then having to figure out how to afterward. I know that if your budget is near Unlimited / very High, a good company to start with might be Bang & Olufsen. They have a division that does "extreme" AV & Network build outs, generally including automation all with the highest end equipment. Not entirely sure how much server work that they do but I do know that they do work worldwide. (Again, they are a top end on cost, but the ideas may possibly point you in the right direction.) Hope this helps.
@Felix-ve9hs
@Felix-ve9hs 5 жыл бұрын
*AMD EPYC 7702*
@bigchew3149
@bigchew3149 5 жыл бұрын
Swap out the power suply fans for some 40mm noctuas ! its not hard ! Ive Done It Be for ! 2 Wires Per Fan Red Wire=the+POS & The Black Wire Is The -Neg Ground N Thats All Thy Are To It ! Dont Worry About Getting Shocked or any thing Thats Just To Scare The Noobs ! All Good power suplys Have What thy call bleeders in them & They will auto /Almost Instantly Bleed the caps ! O use some heat shrink tubing But NO TAPE ..Tape looks SO Trashy on Wires & Very Unprofessional ! If Ya Need Any Thing just Yell.. O Btw I Was a electronics Repair Guy For a couple of Decades or Better And I Worked On Very High Voltage Equipment With Voltages Of 2500 To 4500Volts So i Know A Thing or Three about Them !
@Hobbiekip
@Hobbiekip 5 жыл бұрын
Jason, have you seen Craft Computing's video on the modification of nVidia cards? kzbin.info/www/bejne/boLQanyYiK2eq9U He's modifying for another purpose but casually mentions they are way overpowered for transcoding, and can handle many streams. It seems you wouldn't even need to modify. Cheers bud
@mortendybdal8867
@mortendybdal8867 5 жыл бұрын
i fucking love noctua :)
@AnillusionNL
@AnillusionNL 5 жыл бұрын
I recently saw this youtube video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXezdKmfZdCKZ9k in which they replaced the standard PSU with a SuperMicro PWS-920P-SQ. I have no idea if this is in any way compatible with your system, but according to this video it's quiet. (SQ stands for Super Quiet)
@brionlund2467
@brionlund2467 8 ай бұрын
How many is a couple few? Is that 2(3), so 6? More?
@FoX84tac022
@FoX84tac022 3 жыл бұрын
Don't waste your time if you're here looking for a solution to an actual server and not a rack 3U+ aftermarket chassis (usually meant for use with standard ATX boards) w/ regular 120mm fans. I'm not trying to hate, I just don't get the point of this video considering majority of servers are 1-2U and couldn't house a 120 even with modification.
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO!!!! “A couple few years ago” Couple means a pair. No more, no less. 2. Few means 3 or 4. Again no more or less. So which is it?
@Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw
@Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously that means it's between 2 and 4.
@___xyz___
@___xyz___ 4 жыл бұрын
3:22 Jesus fucking christ man. Oh my god. Holy cow. What the fuck. Why would you do that to yourself. No way. I'm gonna throw up.
@CraigLambert
@CraigLambert 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone has shared this Plex Server build with you or not. Holy shit, his new Plex Server is legit. Give it a watch if you haven't seen it already. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ_VZaJqrN56ZsU Then again, you might not want to. It may cause you to change gears with Loki.
@agen7_smith
@agen7_smith 5 жыл бұрын
Just change PSU or PSU fans
@tpnotworks118
@tpnotworks118 5 жыл бұрын
Noctua Noctua Noctua! The price of your fans can buy all the 6 hdds in my freenas.
@alexparker1627
@alexparker1627 5 жыл бұрын
Here before 100 views
@TechySpeaking
@TechySpeaking 5 жыл бұрын
First
@edwardc4453
@edwardc4453 5 жыл бұрын
"sponsor" It sounds like you probably said 'i have youtube views, i'm an influencer, give me free stuff'.
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