This Is Just The Beginning

[@Bagster321]

Damn this is one depressing episode of Save Your Saves

[@xavikortekaas9174]

The owner for Lyon also owns RWD Molenbeek and last year( I think ) he made the most expensive signing ever in Belgium football and immediately loaned him out to Lyon because Lyon couldn't sign any players. This shouldn't come as a surprise to people.

[@DG-rb7bo]

Who was the player??

[@temiomo-loto4122]

You’re talking about the Ghanaian LW right? Forgetten his name, know it starts with an E

[@Gabriel-vr8cy]

Doing the same with the club from Brasil

[@423vol4]

@@DG-rb7boErnest Nuamah. Ghanaian winger

[@isaacjones5687]

He also owns Botafogo and Crystal Palace

[@FelixFR.]

you know what isn't just the beginning? possibly nearing the end? Zealand's hairline. yeah, I said it.

[@ShaquilleOatmeal730]

Late to the party?

[@v.1kt0r3]

Dude got that magical Lebron hairline

[@goncalocorreia8029]

Goated comment 😂

[@Weightyloan15]

Balls of steel brudda

[@dnbtit]

I heard his next hidden grounds trip just happens to be in Turkey

[@FrenchieBrit]

French guy and OL fan. Z is spot on a lot of stuff. The club has its specific problems: a lot of debt from building its own stadium, and other ventures set in motion by the previous owners, and the wage bill of a CL team when it hasn't competed in it since 2020. On top of that OL has been suffering from the ripple effects of COVID & the two failed TV deals of Mediapro & DAZN. That's when Textor showed up and bought the shares of all the previous owners who saw the writing on the wall and wanted out. Another issue is that Textor has also been using OL as a piggy bank to fund his other ventures at Botafogo (whose transfer budget has quadrupled since OL joined Eagle Football). He claims that the money will swing back in OL's favour but it doesn't seem like the DNCG is buying into that scheme. Z mentioned the mismanagement of the league. There's been a Senate hearing about the goings on at the Ligue de Football Professional (LFP) that concluded that there were "suspicions of incompetence and/or corruption". For instance the head of LFP, Vincent Labrune (offensively French name indeed) was reelected in the most grossly opaque way too. News also broke out recently that the president of PSG, Nasser Al-Khelaïfi, allegedly hired the daughter of the president of the DNCG. It is such as shame because Ligue 1 is probably the strongest it has ever been. Btw, the current TV deal is lower that where it was before QSI bought PSG.

[@tommy124t1]

They spent almost 40m on two forest players, Mangala and Niahkate. Ironically, it helped us pass PSR.

[@arque1255]

And Mangala has landed himself in a different club!

[@tommy124t1]

@ Everton to be exact

[@croissantpower]

The Mangala one is crazy too because they loaned him in for 12m after you guys bought him for 13m and then Lyon paid an additional 23mill to get him in. And the craziest part is after spending that much on him they've loaned him out to Everton 😂

[@seanpierce2943]

Lyon spent around 120m in the summer and sold about 40m in transfers. They've been in fininacial trouble for a while now.

[@gazwj]

So interestingly here in UK, the government is looking to step in with a football governance bill to effectively take greater control over the revenue and financial side of football in England (its UK government but they only refer to England in the document) somewhat saying to the premier league “you’ve let things get out of hand… we’re taking control.” (I’ve greatly oversimplified it here) Which is why the Manchester city charges case is incredibly interesting… because a perceived failure to act will likely bolster the governments intervention. Will be an interesting few years for English football coming up

[@neronicmoment797]

As much as you are correct it is also the perfect excuse for the UK government to make sure they get a percentage of revenue via tax or filtering revenue streams through their books I don't trust the epl the fa or the government there needs to be a third party but that ain't happening sadly

[@BlueWoWTaylan]

Indeed, things have really got out of hand.

[@wavell14]

Sports are devolved matters so that's why it only refers to England. Scottish sports matters are governed from Edinburgh.

[@kingofbengland]

​@@wavell14 Which I'd be fine with if there was a top UK wide league. We compete as Team GB at the Olympics, why not elsewhere? France doesn't compete as France and Brittany internationally. Ah, this all just British man shouts at cloud.

[@opinionatortv6457]

Government interference in football? That ALWAYS ends well

[@phyrsellast7494]

Olympique Lyonnais is the club of my town. I was born when Jean-Michel Aulas was making it a top class club in France and even matching with Europe. Seeing now being part of a multi-proprety group is very sad. Maybe DNCG is making the right choice but it's so depressing seeing the identity of clubs like this being erased for money

[@noahbonnaire8976]

j’espère que tu seras relégué 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PH-jv4ik]

The Multi club model only benefits those clubs at the top kinda like capitalism so yay I guess or no since it's your club not at the top it seems.

[@domomota1491]

​@@PH-jv4ikI mean botafogo is in the multi group and is doing great

[@turkiye.facts.genius]

​@domomota1491 Fogao is his main priority at the moment, he rarely talks about the other clubs he owns.

[@domomota1491]

@@turkiye.facts.genius Brazil doesn't have a ffp still, and the Brazilian league is to south America what the epl is to Europe, botafogo spent only ~70m euros so it's a "cheap" and good investment, I don't think is a matter of priorities and probably smart business

[@EliJoyce-d6i]

could see this coming a mile away lol, all the forest fans were mystified at the 65m(ish) for mangala/niakhate

[@gillesgamesh4241]

OL fans were mystified too, AT least niakhate's pretty good currently

[@edwardkelly3280]

Damn! Olympique Lyonnaise was the French Powerhouse of the 2000

[@lucaslonchampt613]

From what I read, the whole project around Lyon by John Textor is very Ponzi-ish

[@troytheboy1985]

an american doing that oh never

[@andybrockbank3027]

Bernie Madoff is a major shareholder

[@vihodanyet]

I guess you don’t know what a ponzi is. It’s not a recruitment model

[@domomota1491]

As a Brazilian is so puzzling this whole situation, botafogo is also owned by Textor and the club is doing amazingly great

[@maximeumlauf6736]

Thanks to our money 😢

[@magikmalick]

Thanks to Lyon's money, partially. (From what I understand about all this Textor mess)

[@domomota1491]

@@maximeumlauf6736 are u sure?

[@domomota1491]

@@maximeumlauf6736 how is that the case? Ligue 1 tv revenue is so down for the season and euros are 6 to 1 irrc to the brazilian currency, the amount of money Lyon pays for one single player is more than they used to rebuilt the whole of botafogo's squad, and btw I'm a supporter of Vasco I hate botafogo

[@patrickvieira1940]

​@@maximeumlauf6736 Where is the evidence for that?

[@AnshGrover-se1ev]

THE TV deal is why every french club is doing so good in champion's league this season they have realised they will earn more from champion's league now and are focusing there more rather than league 1 it's just so much more to be earned compared to being in league 1

[@nathanjm000]

This a team 5th in Ligue 1, playing in the Europa League, in a top five league Ligue 1 is unsustainable and it’s tragic It’s actually barely half of what it was adjusted for inflation (885 million vs 500 million)

[@mikkysteaders]

It’s 6:48 am. I need to sleep….. but ZEALAND HAS DROPPED A NEW VIDEO!

[@ToastyBoi69]

Bro do u live in the ocean? It was 7:30 uk time when this video came out. The only thing west is the americas and the east coast of the USA is 5 hours behind. ???????

[@igorszamaszow171]

​@@ToastyBoi69I'm not trying to suggest anything, but have you ever heard of the Azores?

[@domingod74]

I am in brazil and the vídeo came out at 6:48 too

[@ShrekIsDaddyPleaseLickMe]

@@ToastyBoi69it’s 5:08 in Illinois. Video came out 4 hours ago for me and just got off of work watching daddy zealadism😍

[@mikkysteaders]

@@ToastyBoi69 it was 6:45am UK time when the video came out 😅 I know as it’s when I got home from work!

[@LiftandCoa]

RIP Lyon and shoutout to its family.

[@Evan8787]

*Hamster Dance ensues*

[@morepork281]

"Something offensively French I'm sure...." 😂😂

[@gillesgamesh4241]

You said olympique Lyonnais and not Olympique Lyon I am so proud. At least people will get a good save next year in FM if we get relegated.. Aller l'OL

[@Kafei01]

Ouais sauf qu'il a dit de la merde toute le long, il dit que c'est à cause des droits TV trop faible alors que pas un instant il a fait le minimum de recherche nécessaire pour voir que c'était à cause d'un propriétaire américain fou à lier qui fait de la merde avec les sous. Pas un instant aussi il voit que dans le reste de la ligue 1 les plus gros clubs vont plutot bien économiquement et font encore de très bonne performances en coupe d'europe. Zealand a fait une très mauvaise vidéo en étalant ses préjugés et n'a pas pris la peine de prendre 2 seconde pour rechercher ce qui allait pas. Sérieusement une vidéo qui parle de la situation de l'OL et ou le nom de John Textor n'est même pas prononcé c'est une blague.

[@gillesgamesh4241]

@Kafei01 Le but de ses vidéos de cette chaîne la je pense c'est plus de raconter de manière générale ce qu'il se passe dans le foot, oui c'est plus compliqué que ça mais dans tous les cas notre situation pue pour le moment

[@fernandocosta4182]

​@@Kafei01true, is the channel owner american?

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

You French people really need to do something about all the superfluous letters at the ends of your words. What the hell is that "is" doing in "Lyonnais"?

[@ChaneyTM]

First St Etienne, Second Bordeaux, now Lyon, makes you wonder if it's the club's or whether there is a deeper set issue within the French system...

[@IamMalkavian]

well , i dont know if this has been sorted yet , but pretty sure that they didnt have a TV deal for the league at the start of the season , so the isnt much money in the league atm

[@StewartUSAF]

It was FCSM, not Saint-Etienne.

[@kokakadoo9101]

Besides psg all French clubs are basically broke, combined also with incompetence but I suppose the 2 go hand in hand

[@TurinTurambar98]

The FFF are the problem.

[@Zombieturtles]

So refreshing to see a video where you're not screaming, shouting or singing for once

[@petethedutch]

So, Textor admitted to the Brazilian press that he'd been using Lyon's coffers to help fund Botafogo's signings. Now, he's expecting to sell players from the Brazilian team to help make Lyon solvent again. The issue is that one of the main players on the team and the one who might've gotten the biggest payday is under investigation in Europe for... match fixing.

[@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp]

Lyon getting relegated to playing matches on Zealand's forehead 😉🤫

[@njbrx]

💀

[@player-ty2sy]

That would make more money than an average ligue 1 match

[@northofnashira2575]

Imagine the crosses

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

I grew up watching highlights of Lyon dominating on Eurosport. I remember they were fuming during Covid when the league finished early, but didn't realise it was this bad

[@FraseThatPlays]

It's funny that when this happens nobody ever mentions the well run clubs who are solid contenders for the European places. Atalanta do great in Serie A and just won the Europa League, Villarreal are generally among the better La Liga teams (not to mention Athletic from Bilbao being solid even with their Basque only policy) Even in Ligue 1 a team like Lille is nearly always in and around the European places. The rosk for being ambitious and spending money you 'think you'll get' rather than what you actually have, is that things quickly go tits up when you fail!

[@Tanesis]

One of the main reasons Serie A fell from grace was the Calciopoli. If the premiership falls it will be from corruption, legal issues or Man City turning the league into a farmers league.

[@jesuspinto9805]

Hmm, Seria A downfall was do to Italy economic crisis, couple with things like Juve been the only club who owns his stadium. Italian clubs couldn't keep with how the world football changed

[@Veaseify]

I read somewhere they are 500 million Euros in debt, now 'debt' is in the eye of the beholder, Man Utd are £350 million in debt but nobody bats an eyelid because they have no problem making the interest payments and the debt can be reduced if necessary through normal business dealings. Lyon on the other hand, are totally screwed because Textor can't just pump in money to service that debt.

[@Dere2727]

There’s an impending nuclear time bomb of the entire Championship going bust

[@Gabriel-vr8cy]

John Textor is full of shady doings. Here in Brasil he's trying to impose the savior of football and whistle blower against corruption image.... but we know his true face

[@Numero6dl]

2025: Lyon in fiffh-tier with Danny Graham as centerforward.

[@kleptrep94]

Bro remember the time from like 1998-2010 when Lyon won every Ligue 1 or something ridiculous like that. Now they’re dead and buried? This is so sad, hopefully they can get resuscitated.

[@crediblesalamander8056]

what's weird is they won something like 8 titles in a row, but nothing before or since. it's very strange.

[@brunomonlevade769]

Juninho happened

[@kleptrep94]

@@crediblesalamander8056 Yeah when I started getting into World Football, Lyon were winning everything until Laurent Blanc showed up, managed I believe Bordeaux to the title then Lyon kinda withered on the vine. It doesn't help that French sides don't really apply themselves to Europe.

[@rayweir3490]

Looks like Everton dodged a bullet with Textor

[@joaojulio6327]

Portuguese and Dutch leagues sharpening there knifes every year for that Top 5 ligue spot... Just for Lille and Brest saving the french ligue this time aroud😂😂😂

[@Silverbullet2225]

Working on a football game and had to adjust the teams from summer of 2023 to now in 2024 and the number of teams around the world that have been dissolved in the span of one year was insane. Not to mention all the leagues that have been abandoned due to war, civil unrest, and other issues.

[@alastairnicolson4992]

Six-time French Champions Girondins Bordeaux are now in the fourth tier, technically an amateur league.

[@LuffyL-ch1ku]

Jonathan David, Mathias Fernandez-Pardo and Malick Fofana are the goats

[@Chaosattractor225]

I am sure psg is innocent.

[@PeterBuvik]

Direction Nationale du Contrôle de Gestion (DNCG) (English: National Directorate of Management Control)

[@RadioactiveJarqe]

Beginning situation is crazy

[@Roman.Rêbwar]

city sweating intensified...!

[@standard12th66]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the competition of rugby in France. Rugby is getting more views than football more and more often. This is particularly in south of France where rugby is bigger than football now.

[@ellipticalsoul]

It's boring to explain but the thing with these swap deals that get booked as huge profits is they work in the short term, but you're only kicking the can down the road because every season you're having to put that "fake" amortisation loss down so it seems like you're losing money as far as FFP goes

[@DR.A.R]

Welcome to Super League OL . If you want to compete , you can't do it with UEFA

[@garald440]

He mentioned Leeds multiple times, I am a big Leeds fan as of recently. I got into football a few years back when Leeds had a few Americans. As a result I chose to support them. I know they struggled with money in the past but it always confused me. What actually happened with them?

[@popezosimusthethird269]

The saddest part is that it's happening just a couple years too late. We could have had the OL vs ASSE derby game played in the second division. Just think of the memes, dang it.

[@ClellCarnesIII]

This is really sad to see. I was able to visit Lyon at the beginning of the season and chat with a bunch of supporters. Hopes were high for this season 😢

[@saintofselhurst]

As a Palace fan, Textor was seen as the fresh adrenaline injection we needed but now...we really need to get rid of him

[@eldinovm8077]

Zealand talking like the prem ain’t on dazn too 😭

[@Gabriel-vr8cy]

The only reason this isn't happening on Brasil is because we don't have financial fairplay and it sucks, roughly about half of the clubs would be f*. Most of the "big ones" for sure

[@JoeMercersWay]

Damning indictment of French Football that they've let their league become unsustainable and a complete joke for the sake of political favours. Killing 2 historic clubs instead of protecting their game.

[@reshiramex1399]

Yo, are you the dude from FM Base? You look similar? 😮

[@Danstraightedge]

Damn. I have just won back to back Champs Leagues with Lyon on FM24.

[@Ricardo-i3s7f]

I can assure you the Saudi Pro league was not sent by god

[@nathanrockman4640]

I'm from the us but I live in Lyon and man people are just depressed because the fans are so passionate but it doesn't really matter

[@rockaway0beach]

You mentioned textor is also the owner of Botafogo, which is about to pla in the copa libertaodres final this month. One of the possibilities they managed was to sell three of their best players now, like right now, to (somehow) balance Lyon's books. I think that is a far worse outlook that simply bankrupting a club: having a global football market where clubs are farms and subsidiaries of other clubs is pretty perverse.

[@Kojan-Torparn]

The money in football has reached such ridiculous levels that something have to give. You can only blow a bubble that large before it burst. The TV-channels can't keep up paying more and more because the main fanbase of ordinary working people can't pay more for the sport packages. It is my belief that the football community would gain from set wage limits and financial transfer limits of some sorts to keep the game itself from going bankrupt. Noone would gain from just having the Premier League and the Saudi league to choose from in the future.

[@neblolthecarnerd]

This was the club that signed Rooney and Naymar in my pes 2012 save 😂. French league was the strongest in the world and Jean Pierre Ginac was the goat of the time playing for Marseille.

[@areeedan2889]

just waiting a zealander video about OL

[@Fafuncho]

Personally, I do think the clubs on the league one and Serie A can find some learning in the Brasileirão, 10 years ago any good player in the championship would just leave to any other european club, but this isn't happening anymore, moreover, the people in Brazil rather watch the Brasileirão rather then any other european league even with portuguese casting, and why is that so? Of course the brazilian population is far larger, however the TV deal is only of around €81M, while Ligue 1 is of €660M, how come a championship be able to remain competitive, still making so many talents when other leagues are far more richer and where most clubs aren't running in massive deficits?

[@spammus1]

I think you nailed it, one of the problems of european football right now is that every organisation is incredibly british biased, it's very strange that in a country where every major club sold out to the oil money and can easily outspend everyone else, none of those clubs has ever been hit with any sort of financial regulation. I feel most other european clubs are operating like they are to try and keep up with english clubs, Real Madrid and PSG.

[@FraseThatPlays]

It's not the oil money that has given the Premier League the advantage. It's Sky Sports and the TV deal. Sky and the Premier League have grown together and worked on a shared revenue model at a time when the likes of La Liga were letting clubs do their own individual deals. Like it or not, the TV money is legitimate revenue for FFP - which has been more concerned about individual owners fronting money or doctoring the accounts to make teams spend above their means.

[@spammus1]

@@FraseThatPlays Serie A had a deal with Sky Sports for years before switching to Dazn, but I don't see them doing all that good now. Teams being owned by oilers IS what make them able to outspend everyone and grab all the good players from every other country. Pair that with astronomically better tv deals and the fact that english teams seem immune to any financial ruling and you got a recipe for disaster. It's not just coincidence that the only teams that are doing well financially outside of the premier league are just the two who have an almost infinite amount of cash to burn.

[@FraseThatPlays]

@spammus1 I see your point but I think the bigger problem isn't the 'big' clubs but it's the difference between the clubs in the lower part of the top flights. Comparing the spending power of a Man Utd to a Milan or Marseille isn't showing as big a gap as comparing Bournemouth to Bologna or Brest.

[@spammus1]

@@FraseThatPlays Eh I think it's a cascade effect. Smaller teams in the PL are only doing good because big teams like Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal are swimming in oil money and they are able to grab all the good talents and attract all the good tv deals. Excluding Real Madrid, Bayern and PSG there is no other non-premier league team that has those kind of money to spend around to get good deals and good players. If who has to oversee these kind of things actually started punishing those teams instead of launching endless investigations that will eventually end up in a mere point deduction and a laughable fine (or even worse will bring no result whatsoever) I'm sure the differences won't be THIS accentuated. Lyon is a top team in France and is a top team in Europe, it shouldn't really be on the verge of a forced relegation for financial debt. There are just way too much money in football right now, and a big culprit of that ARE oil money.

[@emilfrederiksen.1622]

Lyon was doing very sad to see this happen to them and not club like PSGS who has been running a monopoly on League one for 12 years.

[@Jpcraque]

13:43 Zeeland: **Rants about French league for 15 mins straight** Fly: Don't mind if i do!! 😂😂

[@aaronnilestoussaint5672]

As a fan of ASSE this is hilarious but this raises a concern even Perez has stated. should leagues exist anymore if the wealth gap is this huge. Lyon will never make a contending side for UCL ever. they cant fight and theyre in a league where top 5 gets less than EPL bottom clubs. So what does FIFA expect clubs to do with such restriction? I agree with everything stated

[@angelrodriguez-alvarado9433]

Bordeaux, and now Olympique Lyonnaise. Sad!

[@saw_8004]

As a Marseille Fan. I almost shed a tear

[@stefanrosu2708]

Petition to talk about the Romania-Kosovo match that happened 2 days ago.

[@wavell14]

Kosovo is Serbia

[@cumannach6739]

As a leeds fan it hurts catching this many strays but you're right

[@klemz2506]

it's true and sad, thruth is though that, it is bad football economy and even worst business from Lyon that got them in that situation. John Textor, Lyon's owner has a lot to do with that situation as he was already aware that his spending spree was unsustainable and reckless last year, I it was a gamble worth taking for him at the time as Lyon was headed towards finishing at the bottom of ligue last season. But with this year the club made no effort whatsoever to mitigate their "losses" during this years mercato and went for "flashy" (for ligue 1) and unnecessary signings Thay have recruited way too much players and at high cost instead of looking for LOOOAAAANS, reasonnable signings, or even better depht through their academy system who is one of if not the best in France.

[@richardknieriem4060]

Pulled a Pac 12 with the TV negotiations

[@manuelbarros4898]

Fly, fly, just fly!

[@howlingwolf7280]

I enjoyed the rant. It added some minor context, but it didn’t add anything meaningful to the discussion. What should clubs do? What should the leagues do? Who is responsible for making the changes? Z isn’t responsible for fixing any of this, it’s just this feels like a lazy lazy video to appease the algorithm gods. Which I don’t begrudge, but I guess I just hoped for more.

[@Zinho-qb1uu]

Lyon should sell all the players and open trials for players just from lyon. Do the basque thing Athletic do

[@samtheman1893]

to be fair, the entire global financial system is unsustainable, so football isn't really an outlier here

[@FalseNi9e]

It's a shame because I love French football. They are so passionate and it's a fun time at their matches. Serie A is easily 2nd mate, most competitive league in the world with the best fans

[@hspeedful]

9:28 how does one enroll for a journalism degree at ESPN? Sounds dope!

[@BlueWoWTaylan]

Premier League gonna need regulations too. They are going with infinite money now but even then, we see how bad things go for teams there as well. Premier League should not be the de-facto Super League anymore.

[@jacobcic5222]

The Ligue 1 catastrophe is a recipe for PSG and other French clubs to try break into the European Super League. Mark my words.

[@kallieinar208]

nice vid football penguinz

[@thacrypt223]

"This Is Just The Beginning". I know right? Beginning of the end for that hairline my bro! 😃

[@Xanoriz]

$532.6 million in debt to compare that with Bordeaux that had $128 million, yeaaaah not good.

[@lukasriedler315]

anybody know what will happen to the women's team? given they are one of the 2 strongest teams in the world?

[@luchogonzealaise3717]

Textor sold the "rights" to the team to someone else, it's basically still called Olympique Lyonnais but it has no link with the men's club anymore since it's not part of Eagle.

[@lukasriedler315]

@luchogonzealaise3717 thank you!

[@AvangardaSRB]

People need to realize this, the system is breaking apart in all spheres of life and football will be most affected. Sport in general has lost its magic around 10 years ago. Too much money = too much corruption in every possible way and that has to fall apart at some point, and considering the greed of a modern human, yeah its gonna be over, fast !

[@kokakadoo9101]

'Greed of the modern human' so people of the past weren't greedy? I fail to see your point

[@fbl903]

at least we'll have some good fm saves in france...

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Mcdonalds didn't give enough tv rights money

[@JPayne95]

Theyll sell 2 or 3 players in january and will be fine. They actually have some assets

[@PiastTorun]

PSG but Mbappe and Neymar, pay ridiculous wages, used to not even be in the first division, so what revenue? But Lyon is going down....

[@daviebananas1735]

Pretty sure PSG have the money to cover it, since they’re literally owned by a country with indescribable wealth.

[@liamsaan]

my first ever transfer offer was 20m for Theo Walcott back in fifa 14 🥺

[@studentNEET319]

Someone get Lyon a oil investment firm

[@JC-od3tg]

Remember when Lyon and Borduex used to dominate the Top 2 seeds of Ligue 1

[@CallumWatson-p2l]

Pauleta days

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

Does this have to do with the tv contract being so bad or just spending to much at once?

[@SubmachineOP]

Thiago Almada traveling to the Argentina senior Squad after scoring on Pau FC in Ligue 2 BKT 💀

[@pingu6028]

im sure there is a Sheik or an Oligarch somewhere buying them. Lets be honest thats how it will go - otherwise they are done

[@Michael-xy1wl]

It doesn't work like that, the TV money doesn't match the ambition of the league. It's not sustainable.

[@lp.shakur]

​@@Michael-xy1wl yeah but the problem is also, no one cares for Ligue 1, they tell themselves that they are a top league but they aren't, not in sports terms or viewership terms, no one sits down and watches Nantes - Montpellier, no one cares about that league, they have one team that was somewhat good but those times are over, PSG with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi is the only thing that league had

[@Michael-xy1wl]

@lp.shakur yeah I'm eluding to that also. The tv revenue in the Premier league is a huge factor to why the clubs can spend the way they can. Ligue 1 doesn't have the luxury unfortunately.

[@lp.shakur]

@@Michael-xy1wl yup, that's why Ligue 1's TV deal isnt good, why should a company like Dazn basically operate at a loss and overpay for a league no one outside of France cares about, it's not economically viable and the head of Ligue 1 just f'ed them more over than they basically were, he wanted to get a Top League deal but basically got what it's really worth, those streaming sites and TV channels are just more interested in the Prem, La Liga and Bundesliga, because people actually wanna see clubs in that respective league, Serie A also but it definitely fell off a little bit too

[@jeffsammer4473]

@@lp.shakurserie a is ranked two in the world is the third most watched league in Europe, has had 7 teams in European finals over the last three years, and has had 4 different winners in 5 years, the most competive of any European top 5 league, all while also getting an extra champions league spot,and featuring the top team right now in the europa league, fiorentina who has dominated the confeencelauge, and inter who are right now up there with the favorites go win the champions league and are one the the best teams in Europe. Since juve dominance was broken HALF A DECADE AGO, series a has been consistently ranked a top 3 league in Europe, has been top 3 in viewership, and has been one of the most competitive leagues in Europe just like it was from the 1960s to 2010. If you don't know what your taking about don't speak 🤫

[@mathat186]

So if Lyon goes to Ligue 2 then which club benefits from this? A Ligue 1 team that won’t be relegated or a Ligue 2 team that will be promoted?

[@eavyeavy2864]

Relegate 3, promote 4 from both

[@elot2007]

wow

[@PhantomOverlordX2]

French footie is a mess jfc.

[@johnny_rson9536]

Has Jean Michel Aulas said anything regarding this ?

[@notcontentwithlosing]

500 million? the Dutch and Portuguese league would SWIM in that and yet, in quality, the Ligue 1 isn't that much of an improvement over these. Is this just proof that ALL French teams are poorly run?

[@hungotuan4431]

Welcome to Ligue 1, an imploding league 😂

[@meelooxavier6502]

well, well, well... if it isn't the consequences of their own actions 😂

[@maarius030]

Ligue 1 gets just 500M per year for the TV rights???????? Bundesliga gets over a billion. And that’s the old deal. They are currently negotiating the new deal for the next years which will be even more

[@iurilangmeira]

everyone hates john textor in brazil, except clueless botafogo supporters. there are ones that realize he is dangerous for the club. dude will win one championship and crash the team when he gets bored of it and moves to the next one. look up his website to see how sketchy his whole schtick is.

[@THEANALYSIS-d4q]

The sad thing is this is a sign that football is slowly dying, mainly within the french league. I hope this has not turned out to be like the bordeaux fc, which the club is 4th division of france. This also shows that richer the club more stronger the club is