This Is NOT a Firearm

Today I’m going to show you guys one of the most often overlooked exemptions in US gun laws, how it works, and why these guns aren’t consider firearms.
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[@BrandonHerrera]

Thanks for watching guys! Hopefully you learned something with this video, and it encourages a few of you to pick one up! Just be sure you still follow the basic rules of gun safety, and be sure to at least know your local/state laws. Big thanks to GunSpot for sponsoring this video!

[@nickhawley9991]

#AKGNotificationsquad

[@elpaso5947]

You should do a Lynx 12 review

[@tacticalgopnik9492]

gun go pow

[@ThesupremeEDGElord]

#akgnotificationsquad

[@squigs8070]

#akgnotificationsquad

[@vncube1]

ATF: "I can't define what a firearm is, I'm not an engineer"

[@goldenhate6649]

More proof of how dumb congress is

[@Kmurray9244]

Also AFT; That's not a firearm, but a binary trigger and bumpstiok is a machine gun 🙄 and brace shouldered is an SBR 😪 "edited because I'm an old man blind and not great at text"

[@koreyhayden1368]

Its AFT.....🤣🤣🤣

[@koreyhayden1368]

@@Kmurray9244 haha agreed!

[@roflchopter11]

@@Kmurray9244 a bootlace is a machine gun, and therefore a firearm. That piece of conduit you bought at Home Depot is a "silencer" and therefore a firearm. So is that washer.

[@diorspit1109]

“Only causes cancer in the state of California so we should be good” I love that line

[@marcoaurelio296]

Me too! I was about to write exactly what you did! 😁👍

[@C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd]

Lead largely replaces iron binding to hemoglobin and decreases oxygen transport. Perhaps other impacts on anemia. Best not to eat the stuff. California is worried about game with bullets in it, or field dressing leaving lead in meat which is then eaten by birds. And the lethal impact on birds.

[@gra22]

every once in awhile a cord will rub my arm and I'm thinking damnit cancer but oh yeah I don't live in Cali.

[@haroldgarson4800]

To be fair, the air in California causes cancer. I wouldn't be too scared.

[@darschpugs4690]

@@C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd some of these people don't care about science and facts mate. Most of those said people are probably too stupid to understand anything other than point , pull trigger, thing goes boom.

[@PhantomSavage]

"Be careful you're not smacking it around or you're gonna qualify for a Darwin award... or whoever's standing to the left of you will qualify for a Baldwin award" This made me laugh way harder and longer then it had any right to.

[@Loving_Ghost]

I’m extremely happy you’re still around. Watched your destroy all humans play through in 2012-2013

[@deadlock3444]

In Australia, even paintball guns are considered a firearm. Nearly anything that fires a projectile is considered a firearm. Complete different world.😂

[@johnreilly8672]

Is ones arm now considered a firearm now too? It is capable of throwing a projectile 😀

[@Veltrosstho]

Watch out, socks are now firearms, stick a rock in them and give it a spin!

[@joeyahoo3902]

In Canada it's determined by the velocity of the projectile, thus even a high-powered pellet gun can be determined to be a firearm, especially if used in the commission of a crime.

[@tacfoley4443]

In Northern Ireland, any gun-like toy that shoots a projectile with more than ONE Joule of muzzle energy is classed as a firearm.

[@Uberaroundtheworld530]

Yeah the kangaroos have more civil liberties than the humans 😂

[@soup8249]

Fun fact. we have the same thing in the UK "antique" black powder weapons require no licence over here, we actually had a bit of a problem with flintlock crime because of this

[@JugSlug]

Hand over thy dabloons

[@Nickcooper625]

Not true. Muzzle-loading pistols - including cap and ball revolvers - can be held on a Section 1 Firearms Certificate, and they can either be originals or modern repro's. These can be fired on ranges or other permitted locations. On the other hand, some pistols in calibres deemed obsolete (essentially no longer manufactured) can be held without a licence as "curios" if they are not intended to be fired. The moment someone obtains ammunition and fires them, they commit a crime.

[@soup8249]

@@Nickcooper625 ok random youtube guy. you must know better than gov.uk, cos this says "2. Under section 58(2) of the Firearms Act 1968, antique firearms which are sold, transferred, purchased, acquired or possessed as a curiosity or ornament are exempt from most of the controls in the 1968 Act, including the need for certification and being able to trade in them without being registered with the police as a firearm dealer." it also contains this "8. A firearm can be regarded as an antique if its propulsion system is of a specified description (see section 58(2C) of the 1968 Act). Regulation 3 of the Antique Regulations specifies the following types of propulsion system: a) any propulsion system which involves the use of a loose charge and a separate ball (or other missile) loaded at the muzzle end of the barrel, chamber or cylinder of the firearm and which uses an independent source of ignition. This covers muzzle-loading firearms;" www.gov.uk/government/publications/circular-0012021-antique-firearms/circular-0012021-antique-firearms-regulations-2021-and-the-policing-and-crime-act-2017-commencement-no11-and-transitional-provisions-regulations heres a great example of this, here you can see an active firearm, which requires no licence to trade. www.gunstar.co.uk/tranter-percussion-revolver-442-revolver/Pistol-Hand-Guns/1581454 and im sure i imagined the problem as well www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/birmingham-criminals-using-19th-century-8021685 "The moment someone obtains ammunition and fires them, they commit a crime." Well duh, that's not just antiques. if i go out and shoot my legally owned weapons its a crime my guy

[@josemedinasgamefowlpage5988]

Brandon I might be white I might be Mexican Herrera!

[@Nickcooper625]

@@soup8249 I'm surprised that even after you've read half the legislation you are still confused by the distinction. "Obsolete" handguns can indeed be held, "as a curiosity or ornament," i.e. not fired. However, if they are intended to be fired, they have to be on a FAC, and the only ones that can be put on Section 1 are "muzzle loaders." Your initial comment made it sound like the situation in the US, which it clearly isn't. Someone could indeed buy that Tranter without a FAC, but only to stick it on a wall or in a display cabinet. They can't actively shoot it without a FAC. Obsolete cartridge handguns can't be put on a Section 1 FAC at all. Your 'Birmingham Mail' report also does not support your spurious claim that, "we actually had a bit of a problem with flintlock crime." It talks about, "early 20th century weapons," which aren't "flintlocks," and mentions the St Etienne revolver, which is a cartridge firearm, and also not a "flintlock." The only way that "flintlocks" come into it are a couple of examples shown as being handing in during amnesties, not because they were used in crimes.

[@seancarroll8326]

Here in NY, these are now firearms. I just bought one a couple weeks ago, I had to complete the NICS check and you need a pistol license now to possess one, just like any other handgun. It's a great law that should stop all the shootings in NYC with 1800 era black powder pistols. Gang members are robbing stage coaches and having duels outside saloons with these, apparently.

[@DjPorkchop73]

Illinois they are firearms as well sadly enough. Imagine having to have a FOID card that we are required to have to begin with and then having to have one AND fill out a 4473 for a black powder device? What have we come to really? Sad point in time for us. 😞

[@todddenio3200]

Same here in Minnesota

[@armadillolover99]

I believe NJ they were always considered firearms. In NY though I’m pretty sure it only requires all that if you have the necessary ammunition to fire it, if you intend to use it as a decoration you should be able to buy without a NICS check.

[@ItsThe675]

Same. In New Jersey they are guns and you need a pistol/ handgun license to own them

[@HANKSANDY69420]

🤣

[@OGMaverickGaming]

"This is not a firearm" I agree, it's a hand cannon

[@TMG64]

This is not a firearm? No its big iron

[@VelociraptorousRex]

The history of the cartridge conversions is kinda fun, as essentially it was just a way for Colt and Remington to move old inventory after the onset of cartridge shooting guns.

[@spencerc7819]

It's honestly my favouritie period of gun history. This period of insanely rapid firearms innovation, where we were shoehorning existing guns to keep up with modern cartridge technology because they simply couldn't manufacter enough guns. This is a modern sort of "cheating" cartridge conversion pistol. The original Richards and Richards Mason conversion simply had a bore-through cylinder and a makeshift ejector rod attached to the side of the barrel. Really cool and unique guns.

[@Vooman]

"cap and ball... torture... whatever--" I love how he knew that joke was a mistake the millisecond it left his mouth

[@cymond]

Yeah, totally a mistake, not scripted and rehearsed at all.

[@pantsshitter533]

@@cymond scripted or not, still caught me off guard and made me giggle a bit

[@RT42069]

Im into that

[@jtbuilds9176]

The ATF does classify this as a firearm but is listed at a "antique firearm" also known as a muzzleloader. I know this as I am a felon and this is a firearm I do own and am allowed to own a antique or replica of a firearm as long as it does not fire by center-fire or rimfire and I believe has to be made or reproduced before the mid/late 1800s. Just a reminder, as a felon (who myself finished my probation in 2012) your gun rights are not totally gone for life!

[@tate1998]

I believe the cut-off is 1896 (Its anything before 1898, thanks Russ G.), most that are available are from about 1840-1860, and good luck with your arguments if you ever have to use whatcha pack.

[@carlosmatos9848]

@LabRat Knatz I agree. Lifetime firearms bans are mostly nonsensical, especially with so many non-violent crimes being classified as felonies.

[@Wyomingchief]

I actually own one, as I have a felony conviction in my past for a non-violent technically victimless crime. And I do have my gun rights restored, but unfortunately not every state recognizes that. So that's the reason I carry the black powder pistol

[@NachozMan]

Got the rep of a felon, for weapon concealin'

[@stnicgglemploy2794]

Fuck the law.

[@ross798]

When I was a kid, I remember seeing ads for Black Powder Pistols and they cost next to nothing. I think Walmart used to have them in the sporting goods section.

[@brianalbee4153]

I came here for the full auto FN FAL but now I'm staying around to see the big iron. The guys who fought to the death with these were real men. After the 5 or six shots were spent it was time to fight with your sword, knife, or anything you could use as a club. Sacs definitely still contained nuts at that time

[@donwild50]

The Walker Colt could and often was used as a club if you were gunfighting at close range...or even within smacking range and didn't want to waste a round when you could just clout the other guy. The thing weighed 4 and a half pounds! They called it Big Iron for a reason. That's a lot of skull cracking possiblities.

[@charon9205]

@@donwild50 Plus the Rangers were issued 2, carried in saddle holsters. You can be damn sure they carried rifles, extra pistols and sabers on occasion as well.

[@caseysmith692]

Yes very large nuts

[@MrSam1er]

We have similar laws here in Switzerland, for "antique" firearms. And funny thing, all the schmidt-rubin rifles (k31, k11, k89, the straight-pull rifles from 1889 to 1957) are also considered "not firearms". We have so many of them in the country that it was to complicated to oblige people to register them all. You just have to be 18

[@SkinnerBeeMan]

That's very interesting.

[@nameofthegame9664]

Same here in Sweden. Every firearm made before 1890 are considered antique and are totally license free and anyone can own and shot them unless they are cartridge fed. However the issue comes to the gunpowder. Black powder is fine as long as you don’t have more than 200g stored at once. If you want to store more you need a permit from your municipality. It has to do with fire safety and the maximum amount is 5kg and you have to be 18 to by black powder. If you want regular or modern gunpowder you need to have a firearm license.

[@evilmessiah81]

in germany you need a blackpowder/pyrotecnitian license to use them leagaly, is it unreguleated in switzerland?

[@bigshrimp6458]

Sweden has less strict gun laws than Hawaii thats just great

[@shamboozles4209]

Howdy! Nice to see a compatriot! I've bought a K11 myself, it's quite surprising actually how easy it is to get. I also have a sphinx SDP (semi auto pistol) and even that was pretty easy to get, all you need is a clear criminal record.

[@mkosmala1309]

Regarding the insane anti-gun laws, I have long prayed, "Lord, confuse my enemies." This is one of the ways he's come through.

[@gratefulguy4130]

@kevin weinz "If you need permission it's not really a right" -Based Proverbs 1:1

[@achair7265]

@kevin weinz Jesus did say those without a sword, sell your cloak for one. Man himself had a whip.

[@InquisitorJack]

Turn your entire ground floor into a grapeshot cannon battery for home defense

[@achair7265]

@kevin weinz Someone had to get the swindlers out the temple.

[@chriswinters1592]

@@achair7265 the man himself "made a wip" he didn't ask no one for permission

[@stevonnice4304]

You can also use pyrodex substitute. Little more stable. Also, if you hear pop but not boom, hold the weapon in a safe angle as you may have a delayed fire

[@wyomarine6341]

Pyrodex is way more corrosive than black powder, you have to be a fool to shoot that crap, or ignorant.

[@notgray88]

The worst part is when you fire but your ear protection is so good the black powder going off sounds like nothing 🤣 Thankfully the puff of smoke coming out the end of the barrel is pretty easy to see because if there's a misfire, the smoke only come out of the cylinder

[@anarchistviking5837]

I know a 17 year old who got one online, these are a blessing from an age that gave us such an awsome looking set of guns. Love these videos, so educational.

[@philswift8311]

Got mine when I was 16

[@jamessavent3636]

Unless you're a felon and you want the fedbois knocking down your door and shooting your dog

[@AirSofter131995]

@America’s Guard ever heard of Google?

[@CretinH]

@@philswift8311 same

[@ILikeToLaughAtYou]

I got one at 14 lmao

[@G56AG]

It is important to note that you should ONLY USE BLACK POWDER or a substitute such as PYRODEX. If someone attempted to load smokeless powder in the original black powder cylinder the revolver could blow up in your face! 😵

[@_Circus_Clapped_]

wait, how?

[@zyanidwarfare5634]

@@_Circus_Clapped_ modern powder burns faster, it would pressurize the chamber faster than the black powder would. Causing the chamber to become overpressure and “boom” You can get the same effect if your one of those people that likes “fine” powder, because If you grind any kind of powder fine it makes it burn faster, and boom. Soldiers grinding their powder and loading their muskets with it to try to get more power or range or whatever their reason was, often causes their gun to explode.

[@larrythompson8630]

@@_Circus_Clapped_ chamber pressure with modern smokeless is many times to high. The Ruger old Army is almost a exception. It’s strong enough to handle some modern loads safely.

[@mikehorrocks2909]

Thank you for the info. I was wondering what would happen if you switched the black powder for smokeless.

[@kurtrussell5228]

It could blow up in your face even if you use black powder, those things are dangerous

[@rvndmnmt1]

Wish I would have found this sooner. I suffered from a chain fire. Top 3 cylinders went off and peppered my face as well as blew off the ball cap I was wearing. Still carry some souvenirs from the experience 30 years later. Was great fun.

[@rshveyda]

Wow, would love more detail on how it peppered your face. That's a lot of blowback when a chain fire should just send the balls downrange. Blowback through the nipples? A lot of chain fires are caused by ill-fitting caps pinched on that create a tiny gap and allow a spark in, or just plain old loose caps falling off and leaving the nipple hole open. If you use undamaged, correct size balls that shave a ring of lead when loaded then it's virtually impossible for a spark to enter the chamber from the front of the cylinder. So, keep an eye on your caps. Some shooters use a wooded down to push the caps on completely and make sure they are tight and all the way on. Loose caps can also cause misfires. The loose cap is actually pushed forward and seated completely by the first hammer blow, then it fires on the second.

[@rvndmnmt1]

@rshveyda detail. Top 3 cylinders went off. One barrel. Three balls. Lots of lead peppered my face. Was pretty painful for a 17 year old me. Can't get an MRI because of said incident lest I lose the sight in my left eye.

[@chrismcleod9748]

@@rvndmnmt1 I didn't know lead was magnetic.

[@rvndmnmt1]

@chrismcleod9748 think they did it more as a precaution. Have a lot of fragments around my left eye. I dunno. Went through an MRI about a half a dozen times in the past with no adverse effects. Brought it up each time. Went through the same tests.

[@pcfree4994]

Safety tip: make sure the lugs/ nipples that hold the caps are FULLY screwed into place. They can work loose and unscrew, so that when one chamber fires the recoil drives back the cylinder and other caps strike on the frame of the pistol causing other chambers to discharge. Happened with our old .38 navy colt.

[@supra107]

Those blackpowder revolvers are actually available for purchase in Poland without a permit. Anything designed after 1850 needs one. Also it is still considered as a firearm by law.

[@nonk9816]

Well some of them to bad you guys can’t get a 1851 but you can get a 1849

[@katyushaslab7635]

You do need a permit of sorts to buy the powder though in Poland according to my friends there. Luckily the next door country has no such requirement ;)

[@displeasedgentleman7360]

What about in the untied kingdom. Will Boris take this one as well?

[@katyushaslab7635]

@@displeasedgentleman7360 you can own actual antique black powder handgats in the UK... As antiques. To fire them you need a licence that can be absurdly hard to get, because britbongland.

[@tristanfitch7012]

Eww you need permits for firearms😂

[@connerstines1578]

Interesting fact, the Walker was the world's most powerful production handgun until the S&W Model 27(.357 Magnum) came out, in 1935.

[@Georgeshawwaiancousin]

that is interesting

[@ALJ9000]

Then came the 29 (.44 Magnum) came out

[@AverageJoeHotRodShow]

Unless you count the Webley Mars Automatic pistol which was produced in very very small numbers.

[@connerstines1578]

@@AverageJoeHotRodShow That is true. It's also true that there were more than 11 times as many Walkers made originally.

[@sturmtruppen6666]

Mars Automatic *COUGH COUGH*

[@kevingreen8763]

Got into bp several years ago with an identical Walker...fun as heck to shoot. I don't mess with black powder (the actual powder) I use pydrodex. The only issue I have with that particular model is the ram drops down, which used to be an issue back in the day so some people would make small rope lanyards that went around the ram and barrel to hold it in place, which is visible in the occasional old west photo...the history on these pistols is amazing and worth a whole video if you felt so inclined to do so.

[@scottyboi5021]

As a convicted felon with multiple armed robbery charges, I appreciate this video very much!

[@Carrot8771]

Any convicted fellon can get modern weapons lol. Criminals will always have weapons.

[@mankind9869]

😂

[@riotsquadgaming7460]

as a dude that can't own guns for mental reasons i appreciate this video very much too. nobody should be forced to be without a means to protect themselves.

[@bystanderbutch3509]

As a convicted felon with mental problems, I appreciate this video. The only problem is I live in Florida and can't own this gem.

[@---cr8nw]

Fair warning, it's still armed robbery, even if you use an antique instead of a firearm. Yes, I know this comment was a joke. But I firmly believe that everyone who is not incarcerated should have the right to defend himself with the most effective tools available and the right to provide food for his family with the most effective tools available. Gun rights for all. If you're still a danger to society, you shouldn't be out yet.

[@hnfiiinc5993]

“This is not a gun” - proceeds to take out a handcannon -

[@bloodangel19]

*Picks up musket as the british grenadiers plays in the background*

[@robertrojik5720]

I own a musket for home defense

[@darylshriver8486]

@@robertrojik5720 as the founding fathers intended, in case 4 ruffians break into my home

[@Vegitobutblue]

@@darylshriver8486 "What the devil?!" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle

[@sushislav]

@@Vegitobutblue Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot!

[@lycanthropy666]

We have strict gun laws in the Netherlands. If you manage to own a gun with a license you can expect police at your door from time to time..just to check if you have your firearm stashed in a safe. Even Airsoft rifles need a license (barely make a dent in a pack of butter) However, you can freely own big bore air rifles that can kill waterbuffalos with a single shot , they are also not considered firearms.

[@IudiciumInfernalum]

What do you mean precisely when you say big bore? What caliber are we talking.

[@warbuzzard7167]

I think they are .50 cal!

[@lycanthropy666]

@@IudiciumInfernalum In this clip he shoots a buffalo with a Seneca Dragon Claw.50 (220FPE / 300 joules of energy) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZnFf4eNjdV5pNk Altough there are far more powerful air-rifles on the market, the most powerful one so far is more like an anti-material rifle. The "AEA Zeus .72 Caliber" (1500 FPE / 2000 joule of energy!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqjEoql-qq16q6M

[@jimster1111]

thats pretty funny. here in america the government would need a full stack of swat team members to check on your legally owned firearms in your own home where im from. so many people mistrust our government throughout the USA that any warrantless search is likely to wind up in the homeowner telling the police to get lost and even the occasional gun battle.

[@baccanoverano9367]

dont tell them, theyll catch on and ban those too. one day theyll even file down your teeth and permanently remove your nails... for your own safety. shit, they might as well just castrate you all too.

[@bmarshall80]

Great info! I’m a civil wat reenactor and own an 1858 steel frame Remington. Chain fires are somewhat common in the hobby, because we fire blanks (obviously) and the wading sometimes doesn’t seal very well. Black powder is dangerous because its dirty and doesn’t fully burn sending pellets of unburned powder down range. It’s kind of like bird shot. We have peppered many a beer can showing this to new guys during safety briefs.

[@tristanaiken4681]

Do you know where I can find #10 percussion caps

[@bmarshall80]

@@tristanaiken4681 I do not. I don't use my Remington a lot. I have heard from others in my group that they are hard to find right now

[@marksprague1280]

The wad can also be dangerous. A reenactor at the last Carson City Rendezvous held was injured when a blank was fired directly at him from close range. Fortunately it struck his arm and inflicted only a minor injury. I was at that rendezvous but stayed in camp when I heard that the mock CW battle involved several different groups, at least two of which had never done such an event.

[@N.Hue_Mane]

Love these with the conversion cylinders man 👌 I own a couple of 1858's.

[@matthewmcdaid7962]

Back in the sixties shortly after the Kennedy assassination, the Federal Firearms Law was enacted. At the time I was working part time for a tool maker / gunsmith. He handed me a copy of the legislation and said, "You're now my firearms law expert. Read this and tell me what I need to know." So, yes, there were some of his guns that fell into the "antique" category, and others that didn't. We made sure he didn't load more rounds per month than he should (didn't want to pay for a munitions manufacturer license), etc. We had fun discussing the law and some of its implications. We could have built a complete Gatling gun chambered for modern rounds and still not be in violation of the repeating weapons clause. The only thing is, we couldn't run the weapon electrically the way the military currently operates Gatling guns. Yes, some obvious loop holes.

[@spvillano]

Well, no electricity is fine, gas actuated hydraulic motor driven... ;)

[@matthewmcdaid7962]

@OnlyGod MayCommandMe That would still violate the "automatic" weapons clause.

[@killerbug05]

@OnlyGod MayCommandMe the atf... and your dog.

[@hodd.]

@OnlyGod MayCommandMe no worries, theyll find a dog to shoot in your name

[@drigondii]

Gun control is part of why they killed JFK

[@kriegscommissarmccraw4205]

There were stories of French soldiers walking into black powder stores with the matches for their matchlock muskets still lit. "Occasionally, a large explosion would rip through the countryside in these wars"

[@jeremycrane2316]

Yikes lol

[@jaywerner8415]

Not the smartest move, and probably the last.

[@kellynolen498]

so that's why they stopped using matchlocks

[@kriegscommissarmccraw4205]

@@kellynolen498 or, flintlock were just better in every way.

[@theblackbaron4119]

I wonder what the last thing was that went though their heads. Probably their asses or their feet, depending on how the explosion went off.

[@John-ih2bx]

Great info, thanks

[@ghw7192]

Love my Uberti Colt Walker 1847 replica. Good exercise carrying that and the Hawken .50 cal black powder rifle to a range.

[@FlamingRobzilla]

Considering the new ATF rules regarding gun "parts" as receivers, also "ghost guns," they may try to redefine the conversion cylinder itself as a firearm, subject to serialization and and all the red tape that goes along with that. The ATF is out of control and making new laws through broad interpretation. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that.

[@boinkmcbingo8890]

They aren't even making laws they're just enforcing their word as if it were law. That's the most egregious part of the whole thing.

[@crazy4milsurps]

AFT is digging their own grave. Eventually they will get shut down. Be it peaceful legislation or yeetation, they are destroying themselves

[@1pcfred]

Only Congress can pass laws. Last time I checked I never elected anyone in the ATF. So if they want to pass laws then they'd better get their names onto ballots and run for office. Because that's how things work here.

[@kaidwyer]

Speak of the devil and he shall appear

[@dobber43]

@@MarioGarcia-pq9pr you don't have to go to a ffl so maybe not certain ones?

[@simonnachreiner8380]

A buddy of mine actually owns a collection of early breach loaded “muskets” including an early Prussian needle rifle. They use a cartridge but are still considered “not a fire arm” because if you put a modern round into the breach it would… Kentucky Ballistics

[@Actible]

kaboom

[@United_States746]

If they ever ban guns, I can’t wait to see people, robbing stores with muskets

[@BlitzTheOissilent867]

I move that we from now on call any type of gun related explosion, " doing a Kentucky"

[@JustAnotherJarhead]

The Kentucky award.

[@Someone-vp5kg]

​@@BlitzTheOissilent867I second this proposition

[@roger2264]

Good Vid. Interesting and informative for newbies.

[@jamesdunn9609]

I used to own a pair of Ruger Old Army .44's. They were stainless steel, cap and ball, and accurate as hell. Fired a .457 lead ball that hit really hard. They were considered "primitive weapons" and weren't regulated at all. Sold them when I went in to the service. Now I wish I hadn't.

[@victorcasa6355]

Brandon,...thank you 👍👌👏👏👏

[@edmartin875]

Lucky me. I owned a firearm when I was 8 years old. Of course, that was way back when they had not yet made it against the law for an 8 year old to own a gun. It was a .22 caliber, bolt action, single shot rifle that my dad bought it in the late 1920's or early 1930's. Just before he went off to fight in WW2 he gave it to my grandfather, who gave it to me when I was 8. That rifle has put many rabbits and squirrels on the menu. Dad used it to help feed his family during the Great Depression and I did the same in the 1950's and 1960's. My home was robbed in 1992 and the police recovered everything but that rifle. Lucky me.

[@jupitercyclops6521]

Damn thieves

[@ecleveland1]

What was probably a $20 piece of crack or a shot of heroin to the thief was much more than a firearm for you and your family. Some things can simply not be replaced. My father's .22 Winchester model 74 was stolen out of my uncle's truck in the late 1970s. He used that gun to hunt the same as your father for his family. My father also earned extra money trick shooting with that rifle as a kid and teenager. He could hit anything you threw in the air, dimes, pecans, marbles, anything from what my papaw and uncles used to tell me. I finally found an old model 74 and restored it to brand new condition and gave it to my father a few years before dementia set in. But it's just not the same as it would have been if our family still had that original Winchester.

[@richdiddens4059]

A co-worker had his guns confiscated during a nasty divorce. After the divorce was resolved the cops had "lost" his guns. Later, over a period of 4 years several were found in the possession of several cops and upper city management, including the city manager.

[@worldcitizenra]

@Ed Martin - Terrible to read about your loss of the family heirloom. Please consider a few points. Even back when you were a boy, as an 8 or 9 year old, you did not legally "own" that rifle. It may have been gifted to you for your exclusive use, but it was still legally owned by your Dad, not by you. My understanding is that situation would still be exactly the same under current firearms regulations or even under almost all of the firearms restrictions that are being proposed. An 8 or 9 year old cannot buy a long rifle directly, but can have a long rifle, not just a single shot bolt action .22, and use it under adult supervision. I doubt very seriously that your Dad just handed you the .22 and told you to go out and shoot up things. He very likely gave you training in how to use the rifle safely for its intended purpose. Like you, I grew up in a household in which I had access to use both a .22 single shot bolt action rifle and a .410 single shot shotgun. But between my parents and Boy Scouts, I received far more training in their SAFE USE than I see many modern unrestricted gun ownership parents giving their kids today. .22 single shot bolt action rifles, as well as single shot bolt action or small magazine semi-automatic rifles of any caliber, are not the firearms that are driving most calls for additional firearms regulations. In fact, the pistols shown by Brandon in the video are also not the firearms that are driving most calls for additional firearms regulations. It is disingenuous for those opposed to any kind of regulation of firearms to claim that they are. That is just as dishonest and misinformed position as are the uninformed views of some people calling for an outright ban on all firearms even though they know nothing about firearms other than the sensationalist crap they read in some media.

[@jameslastrapes112]

@@worldcitizenra there are approximately 20,000 laws on the books for firearms already, we do not need anymore. Proper education and training on firearms is a must. Those of the population that have diminished mental capacity or have other psychological problems do not need to own any type of firearm. Psychological evaluation needs to be added to the process for getting a license to own a firearm. I have done further research and discovered that the 20,000 laws I referred to was roughly 20,000 bills referring to gun laws. My apologies for not doing further research before I commented. There are approximately 3,200 gun laws on the books.

[@CertifiedWisconsinite]

“Finding someone who’s a little bit older, who’s been doing black powder for a long time” Good thing they’re not doing white powder while using guns

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Yeah, nitrocellulose isn't good for black powder guns.

[@madcapmagician6018]

@@zacharyrollick6169 you can actually mix modern smokeless with black powder to gain a bit of FPS but you have to be extremely careful.

[@tallesttree4863]

@@madcapmagician6018 no joke

[@alberto5770]

And then you have a guy in my current club that reloads with "cotton powder" or magic cotton or however it is called so can fire rifle rounds in a 15 yards indoor range... Seriously, just the primmer and the case half filled with that magician's paper, then the lead bullet and done

[@mr.dynomite8890]

@Alberto I think you are referring to "guncotton", or nitrocotton, which was used as an alternative to black powder, being relatively easy to make effectively as compared to black powder, also being a decent bit more powerful by volume than black powder, as well as burning significantly cleaner than black powder; Black powder you'd have to clean the bore about every 10 shots, at the most. While guncotton could potentially be shot around 50 times before cleaning. However, guncotton was also difficult to mass produce at the time, leading to it being expensive, and therefore impractical to use for the average person.

[@Giggleheaven]

U.K: Pepper spray is a firearm!1!!!!1! U.S: You call that a firearm?

[@RealPugzo]

Always love that Brandon never fails too advice safety as much humor as he induces too many of these amazing videos

[@allencrown]

I love that his advice basically boils down to, yes kids do try this at home. Obviously worded a little better but still.

[@Dylan_Rivas]

"kids, try this at home with supervision cause it's cool, just don't blame me if you get arrested" 🤣

[@collinb.8542]

I really hope the feds don't look at this video and act. I've been looking at a Uberti Remington after a friend got one and I just spent a large sum of cash on a new xbox. Might have to return my xbox just to get a revolver before I can't order one.

[@craighansen7594]

I got my first black powder cap and ball pistol when I was about 12, over 40 years later no problems, no one injured.

[@wildman510]

A M E R I C A

[@slavicemperor8279]

I live in an Eastern European country with pretty strict gun laws and even here the black powder revolvers are not considered firearms. I can literally order one to my house address right now and that's pretty wild.

[@user-cv8qe9ru8c]

U should get one guy!

[@slavicemperor8279]

@@user-cv8qe9ru8c I would if I wasn't living in a Balkan country where one Colt 1851 reproduction model costs 1/2 of an average monthly salary. And on top of that, I'm a broke ass unemployed college student. Maybe I'll get one if I lend a good seasonal job on this summer brotha

[@xxxBradTxxx]

@@slavicemperor8279 At the point you might as well get a 3d printer and make an FGC9.

[@eygon7925]

Any place with guns laws is a shithole.

[@slavicemperor8279]

@A I literally did find two M80 Zoljas covered under a camouflage net and placed under a surface root of a huge tree when I went to take a piss on a hike in the mountains. Both had a rocket inside of them but due to blue outline on the tube I'm suspecting they are inert training versions. I will probably contact the police about them soon and if they are indeed inert keep them as souvenirs.

[@kyleguiffredo6771]

I absolutely love how you include Black powder firearms on your channel , please do more!!!

[@thatblindguy81]

Awesome video for felons in bama. State laws are similar to federal laws. But not Georgia where bb guns are illegal for a felon to possess. Great advice to check local laws. Maybe a bit of advice on how to find that for Google ignorant folks or folks that are just slow on understanding legal terms, ECT. But I've been a felon for 10 years and have carried one EDC concealed for 8 years, I also have a snub barrel that's easily interchangable just slip wedge out and plug and play. Snub barrel didn't have the reach, so it's pretty up close and personal. It's a Traditions 1861 Navy. Guns of the West taught me everything I know about bp revolvers. I also hunt with an inline .50 cal. I will say it is sketchy and you need to learn everything you can about safety with it. With that single action, a NG is very easy and considering to load it, it has to be quarter cocked to load and when putting hammer back, it's super easy for an accident. Side note: I have had to use it for self defense. A guy road raged on me and upped a 9 on me and opened fire. I had my Colt on my hip and I over train often due to my antiquated not a gun, but I managed to not get hit on the first few of his rounds. Then one struck my foot. About that time I was returning fire and he took off running. I can only imagine what he thought as i upped my hand cannon of a pistol and started spitting fire and smoke in his direction. I left the scene and went to police station and told them I was second gunman on the grassy knoll. Most modern gun guys don't know anything about a BP gun or even how to load it. The police had to Google stuff and I was interrogated fiercely before returning my weapon and letting me go. My foot was fine after a couple months. The guy wasn't from around here. I was the one the police was looking at pressing charges against due to me having a not a gun that looked like a gun and me being a felon. And the modern gun guy stayed at the scene and told police that I ran him off by making contact with his car the road and initiated the conflict. However, it was caught on video. I was in the interagation room for hours and when the cop came in with three video he seemed so smug and came in with the cd smiling triumphantly. So smug that he said we can watch it together. I said awesome!! His confidence seemed to be dashed just a bit at my confidence. Plus they went out at looked at my plastic built Chevy Sonic and seen no wear or tear and knew he was lying then, but still held me for the video. Needless to say my wife was pretty confused and shocked when I got released and called her to recount my incident. Also, one never knows how they will respond in any situation. One can train, one can guess, but over never really knows until the lead (at least my lead anyway lol) starts flying. Also, never load 6 and put hammer on cap. Load 5 and rest hammer on empty nip. This is called a cowboy load cause back in the day when riding horses a NGs happened pretty easy riding bump and down on horse back. So if you carry this not a firearm for any amount of time, safety first load 5. Hmu if any questions. I'll answer. Great vid my guy. I don't subscribe to you but I will now. Ran across it googling some stuff and was surprised to see you with one. I'm in modern gun groups on fb cause one day I might be able to or have to use them and I don't want to start with 0 knowledge and be dumb with a weapon I've had 0 experience in when it comes time to grind. So I learn as much as possible and those groups talk about you often. I'm also in BP revolver groups and is an excellent source of knowledge. But like I said, Dustin at guns of the West taught me everything. Btw I stood sideways for that lil firefight. Less of a target box. I still didn't hit shit but return fire was enough this time. Distance was too great so imma go train some more. And my mistake way to much powder. I thought more equals more power. I was wrong, it didn't all burn up. Y'all stay safe and armed best you can.

[@noahdoyle6780]

More black powder and early cartridge firearms, please! 19th century guns are a fascinating period.

[@Redstone6801]

My recently deceased father (i miss him) actually had a youtube channel with a few black powder guns.

[@redtra236]

The early cartridge firearms are also black powder guns

[@Flashpoh]

lemat relover awesome

[@spvillano]

Black powder firearms, the only weapon that produced a complimentary smoke screen. ;)

[@18Maart1915Gallipoli]

Do you know of this YT channel called ''Capandball'' ? He has many vids of old weapons.. many. But he's not so funny as mister Brandon here : )

[@codybarnes1531]

"I was watching the Outlaw Josey Wales, I had my credit card out. Shit happens." I love the honesty on this channel.

[@1pcfred]

I saw The Outlaw Josey Wales in the theater. And that theater was really big and had a really big screen. My grandmother worked there and she took me to work a lot. She didn't care what movies were rated either. Usually the place was practically empty. So I had it all to myself.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Great gun channel, thank you.

[@Tcat421]

Fun video man, good job

[@nicolaidepue3970]

Americans: *gets taxed a little bit too much* Also Americans: *loads not a firearm with malicious intent*

[@bremc666]

When Americans get taxed too much they just have a tea party.

[@tommyfred6180]

@@bremc666 really mate? so when are you having the next tea party? the average American pays 52% to 56% of his wages in one form of tax or another. in the UK we pay just below 26% on all forms of taxation. a little over half of that goes on the NHS and social uses up about another 12% of that. if you lived in Canada you would be paying just over 11% in tax. remember you lot had your little tea party over GB asking you to pay just 5% GDP towards your own costs. a rise of just 2% and 1% on top of that to the war with France. so that was just 6% in taxes and your forbears decided to bin the government and do it your own way. also fun fact for you. before 1946 less than 1% of Americans payed tax that was controlled by the IRS.

[@pricklypear3625]

@@tommyfred6180 Show me on the doll where an American hurt you.

[@tacticalidiot175]

@@tommyfred6180 other way round mate. Plus Europeans make a third of Americans

[@RosaParksWasWyt]

@@tommyfred6180 *me wiping my American tears with my Bulgarian ak74 and my benelli m4

[@Paul-ou1rx]

Mom, can I get a BB gun? "No" I was hoping you would say that. Would you mind if I brought in the mail for a few days?

[@user-zh6sh8qv9k]

😅

[@Texasmule]

It's not a firearm

[@user-zh6sh8qv9k]

@@Texasmule It's an antique firearm or black powder it's still firearm it's just not modern But best believe if you didn't get one of the replacement cylinders and you got 1 that screws into the frame it would absolutely be a modern firearm

[@Texasmule]

@@user-zh6sh8qv9k 6:25

[@user-zh6sh8qv9k]

@@Texasmule a krist conversion cylinder will make it a firearm Because you cannot pull the cylinder out it will be modified screwed into the frame no longer blackpowder cartridge gun now Howell conversion cylinders and Taylor conversion cylinders can be removed Meaning you did not permanently alter the firearm either way you look at it it's still a firearm An antique black powder firearm the law just doesn't consider it a modern firearm meaning you don't need an FFL

[@wrecksandtech]

Ive owned and fired Cap and Ball revolvers for years and personally like to hand roll my own disintegrating paper cartridges. Using “ultra thin” cigarette rolling papers. The translucent ones as they burn away completely. The built in glue strip makes it easy to seal everything together. The process is exactly the same as rolling civil war paper cartridges and hundreds of videos exist that can show it far better than I can explain. When loading you have to poke a needle through each nipple hole to pierce the base of the paper. Paper cartridges for cap and ball existed historically for these guns and even Colt produced a line of them. On top of saving time on reloading there is a safety benefit of not having an accumulation of black powder around. All rounds are pre measured and can be separated into a standard plastic bullet case. An efficiency improvement that is also a safety improvement is a win win in my book.

[@rapcreeperproductions3269]

I like how the "not firearm" has more fire than a regular firearm.

[@jaywerner8415]

Well thats because of how Black Powered burns. Burns alot slower then modern gunpowder.

[@trainknut]

@SnackDestroyer Literally how the first skirmish tactics were developed

[@timothy3610]

I know a dude that has a 50 cal air rifle that hits 1300 ft per second. It's fuckng wild

[@dakota9821]

@@timothy3610 Yeah but the air rile pellets are a small piece of soft lead. I have one, but it's not 1300fps. Not quite as dangerous as a FMJ or the like, but still powerful.

[@kristofferjohansson3768]

And smoke! Don’t forget the smoke!

[@geeksgamesandgears2369]

There’s a lot of firearms that fall under the antique exemption, even some that use “modern” smokeless centerfire ammo. They just need a receiver made before 1898. A lot of Finn Mosin’s, small ring Mauser’s and Enfield’s fall under this 🤘

[@ionstorm66]

Yep only repos made after 1898 have to be black powder. Though NFA items made before 1898 are still subject to NFA if they take commercially available cartridges.

[@fahhcue850]

Yessir!

[@TenmasSchoolOfThought]

This doesn't classify as a firearm in canada either. Canadian tires used to sell kits that lets you build ond yourself... until it went out if stock.

[@Tommytwotall]

Thanks and very entertaining.

[@waffleblitzkrieg1765]

Brandon id like to thank you being such an awesome creator ive had a rough last 3 years but you have made it soo much better

[@f.b.i7408]

Hope things get better for you ❤️

[@nicholasbell8953]

Dude same

[@trevortaylor8645]

Brandon is always a cowboy hat away from being an honorary member of the true grit cast

[@Gldn1017]

Or a npc from red dead redemption lol

[@crayzcapper7036]

Or the modern day Cullen Bohannon! (Hell On Wheels)

[@airwakkerre1861]

@@Gldn1017 They have way more dialogue than him

[@tacticalmattfoley]

"Shooting cowboy loads".......Brandon said it, not me.

[@Thestargazer56]

Insert "Brokeback Mountain" joke here.

[@rya_belladonna]

blackpowder revolvers are also licence exempt in sweden i own a colt 1851 navy .44 cal and a whitney pocket .31cal

[@tamsolo1584]

"The space under your couch is filthy, btw." - got me dead 🤣☠️⚱️ Straight up FACTS! 🤣🤣🤣

[@scottrasmussen179]

I like to believe Brandon always has a few rounds of 7.62x39 and miscellaneous AK parts in his pockets.

[@lmfao5411]

So you basically want him to be Paul Harrel

[@chinchin3274]

@@lmfao5411 Paul Harrel's pockets are just portals to a pocket dimension.

[@georgewashington1621]

well, i mean, who doesnt?

[@theblindsniper9130]

I love the idea of people knowing about the lack of illegalities with these But hate the idea of politicians finding out

[@humphreybumblecuck5151]

Two things lack of *illegalities** And the damn politicians invented this horse shit while pretending to be busy doing something productive (which they never actually do) Edit: Upon further reflection, it would seem that you have mistakenly used a double negative in your sentence. The proper phrasing would be; "I love the idea of people knowing about the legality of these." For a lack of illegality is, in fact, simply legality.

[@theblindsniper9130]

@@humphreybumblecuck5151 Ah yes, 100% correct. Fixed. And I agree, but that sadly doesnt change the situation.

[@charlespk2008]

They really don’t care. You never going to see these used in a mass shooting, so no one bothers.

[@t.r2603]

@@charlespk2008 If there is pointless laws to be passed. Hollow virtueousness of how they've "made the world a better place by putting ink to paper that limits the rights of individuals. Then there shall be useless politicians and empty headed activists with an eye to make the lives of those who value freedom, liberty, and the means to secure both endangered.

[@charlespk2008]

@@t.r2603 …you realize that is a two way street right? Most of ‘the conservative dream’ has been tried and failed… *_catastrophically._* The countries with strict gun laws tend to protect your Rights to Life quite well.

[@thomasleejr5146]

Thank you 💘 for the heads up mayne ❤️‍🔥 play it safe my friend

[@dutch85a]

Subscribed. Look forward to ATF live raid cam vid, will be a huge hit

[@enoughofyourkoicarp]

Everyone: "So... gun, right?" Government: "Nope, ball-yeet'n pop-tube!" Brandon: "... I guess?"

[@RARufus]

Until a shooting with one of these makes headlines…then it will suddenly be an mg.

[@LoganKopach3306]

Here's Brandon teaching criminals to get a gun

[@anonamos9689]

I bought this exact gun and conversion cylinder 2 years ago, came in mail boxed together. Hope Biden does not find out about these he will call them ghost guns. I call it my ghostrider gun.

[@jakegarrett8109]

@@LoganKopach3306 Its honestly cheap and easy to go to the plumbing isles and just make an open bolt SMG, I mean what criminal is going to load only 6 rounds and take a year to reload when they can just steal something... Cops lose their weapons all the time, and the locks for their weapons in their cars can often be opened simply with a shim or magnet, its not rocket science.

[@WEKM]

"Ball-yeet'n-pop-tube" Bwah HA ha haaaaa. 😂

[@circomnia9984]

My brother and I were driving one day, when we came across an accident scene involving a car and a truck carrying fuel. We left after the emergency services arrived, and my brother decided to light up a smoke. He forgot his arm was still coated in some of the spilled fuel, so as soon as he tried to light up, his arm caught on fire. He immediately pushed his arm out the window, to try and put the flames out, and a cop pulled us over and arrested him. He was charged with pointing of a fire arm.

[@ronniepirtlejr2606]

@Circ Omnia, That's a good joke!😂

[@SlicedBread2014]

@@ronniepirtlejr2606 the man's brother was arrested after saving someone's life. The audacity of some people.

[@spartanking2972]

His Hand was on fire and you’re laughing shame on you

[@bernd3885]

fucking hilarious😂

[@supersandwich8967]

@@spartanking2972 you’re being ironic right?

[@johnanderson6566]

You can use cased ammunition that was used pre 1899 it just has to not be in production anymore like alot of old pre1899 centerfire revolvers you can buy kits for the ammo

[@ericmurray3207]

I rewatched this video. Still love it

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Conversion cylinders to allow cartridges to be loaded have been useful ever since the Rollin White patent of April 1855. Nice to see they’re still around.

[@SStupendous]

That was the American patent. Europeans have used metallic cartridges longer. In the Civil War, the Confederacy and the Union shipped hundreds of thousands of pinfire Lefauchex-design revolvers.

[@DeeDee-bm9hr]

The conversion cylinder with ejector rod cost more than the gun unfortunately

[@jurajokasa834]

conversion cylinder is under firearm lincense :) when you want to buy the cartridge cylinder for your repro revolver to use your 45 Colt black powder loads you need to show firearm license in the shop :)

[@kyleh3615]

​​@@jurajokasa834 no? Atleaat not in the US Howell arms out of Wisconsin sells the conversion cylinders. The cylinder Brandon used is of Kenny Howells style. The BATF considers the conversion cylinder a 'part' and not a regulated firearm in and of itslef I bought a 45 long colt cylinder conversion for my 1858 remington army Uberti and it shipped unregulated

[@jamesprice2163]

Lol I can just imagine it "HAVE AT YE AND HAND OVER THY WALLET"

[@phillipallen3259]

I purchased my first black power revolver by mail from Cabela's when I was 15 or 16 (brass frame Navy model). I shot it so many times the damn thing broke and I got to learn to do an internal rebuild. Gave that one to a buddy before I left for the Marines in the early 90's. I got a new one about 20 years ago and still love black power. They are extremely accurate if you are consistent and precise with your loads. But even the brass Navy model is a heavy mother bear when you pack it on your hip all day in the mountains.

[@jueviolegrace8109]

They have models with hardened steel frames with the brass trigger gaurd. Making it way more durable

[@LeeScurge]

Same. My dad ordered several black powder guns from Cabelas. We went to the family ranch and shot squirrels with them. Good times.

[@charlescalvert8647]

Don't be cheap, don't buy brass frames.

[@phillipallen3259]

@@charlescalvert8647 I didn't get a brass frame because it's less expensive, I got it because of the aesthetics. I love the look and always will. I got a SAA with brass because I love the look so much!

[@leo51588]

I was testing out my brass framed one using the pyrodex pellets and on the 7th shot I just saw half fly forward while the other half just stayed on my hand 😂😂 I love that thing so I had to rebuild it.

[@Daverotherham]

American gun laws are SO different to British. I had to hand my .177 air gun in because although it was legal , the police said it could be used for parts for something needing a licence

[@bubba6945]

We use to use vasoline to cover the load in the cylinder to reduce the chance of the other being set off during firing

[@dsmjay6914]

I thought about getting one of these with a matching revolving carbine. But all my money has been going into Soviet made Parts kits and custom builds. I'm working on an AK patterned SMG using existing barrel, magazine and mag well, and a few other parts from the PPS-43 chambered in 7.62×25mm. I'd like to see you make a piston driven design with lock up. And a tad modernized with a dog leg dust cover, magpul M-Lock handguard, and some type of polymer telescopic or folding stock. You're by far my favorite guntuber. I wish you a long and happy(ish) future. Mikhail would be proud.

[@alphacenturi5117]

I feel bad the only comment you have is a sex bot.

[@luckyswordsmen991]

@@alphacenturi5117 not anymore >:)

[@alphacenturi5117]

@@luckyswordsmen991 Great!

[@luckyswordsmen991]

@@alphacenturi5117 ye

[@nobleguy2019]

It has been exactly 585 days since Brandon’s last episode covering black powder guns. The wait was well worth it. Except we needed more Hell on Wheels larping. We need a lot more of that.

[@devon8438]

Which btw the week that video came out i bought a colt navy and have been blowing money on more since

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

Potato Joe should not be playing with firearms. Let's not, Brandon.

[@joho0]

That Outlaw Josey Wales impersonation was pretty spot on.

[@ElementofKindness]

I knew this many, many years ago, and how I obtained my first pistol well before I was 21. A stainless 1858 Rem New Army, mail ordered from a Cabela's catalog back in 1990. (was probably about $200 back then) Still own it to this day!

[@forgeworkfirearms8098]

"It was late one night, I was watching The Outlaw Josey Whales, I had my credit card out, shit happens." That accurately describes 90% of my online purchases.

[@whitecoffee8090]

-Owns two Colt Walkers -Has them both out at the range for the sake of making a video -Doesn't go cowboy akimbo Shame on you, Brandon, shame on you...

[@raymondfryar1533]

I had one, very Smokey and fowling is extreme. A lot of work.

[@Lochlannach661]

If you want to do this in a smaller package, you can get cartridge conversion cylinders in .45 colt for the 1860 army and .38 special for the 1851 & 1861 navy.

[@BogeyTheBear]

The downside of using a conversion cylinder on the smaller 'belt' Colts is that the .45 conversion cylinder for the 1860 Army holds only five shots. The rims of the .45 Colt cartridge don't give you enough room for six rounds in the 1860, so they reduce it to five instead. The 1847 Walker and 1848 Dragoon cylinders give you room for six rounds. As for the .38 Special cylinders, the bullet in a .38 Special is actually .357 caliber while the 1851/1861 Navy has a .375 caliber bore.

[@BogeyTheBear]

5:24 You heard it here, folks: the Walker is a .45 caliber gun. Sure, history books call it a .44 Army gun, but that's because folks in the old days were silly and measured bore caliber from land-to-land instead of groove-to-groove. In other words, they marked a gun's caliber _before_ cutting in the rifling. The Walker is .449 when neasured land-to-land. Groove-to-groove, like a modern gun, it's .451 caliber. A foh-five.

[@christopherhines2718]

yeah,But all the original revolvers from the 1860s called 44 calibre are 45 calibre including my original march 1863 new model army

[@richardelliott9511]

You are correct in your assessment but technically the "bore" is always the land to land diameter, even though it has been corrupted in recent times and used incorrectly to mean the groove diameter.

[@natemarvel2471]

my dad made me shoot cap and ball for a full year before he allowed me to shoot anything else. made me worry more about accuracy since reloading was an ordeal.

[@Stevarooni]

When all you've got is 6, and then half a minute to reload, you're going to make 'em count. 🙂

[@Vikingwerk]

I started on a bolt action .22. Same thing, reloading was time consuming enough to teach me to take careful shots.

[@BogeyTheBear]

When you start out with a percussion gun, moving onto a cartridge firearm is like taking a frickin' vacation.

[@perkins1439]

I had a Remington replica like that it was fun but it had a problem with the inside of the barrel rusting no matter how much I oiled it

[@johnberry2877]

Believe it or not, the most effective way to clean black powder and prevent the acids oxidizing the barrel is to use soap and water. Use a fiber bristle bore brush, not brass, then once clean, oil it up.

[@briangilmore2256]

Forgot about conversion cylinders. Been shooting .36 and .44 Bp revolvers since I turned 18 and could buy one at cabelas. Looking into .36 conversions now

[@cristianespinal9917]

If you live in NY, be aware that (as with everything gun related) there are applicable state laws to kill our fun. I'm not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice, but from what I understand from having read the applicable state laws, it's perfectly legal to buy these online and they can be shipped directly to your door, but to shoot them legally, they have to be added to your carry license. Specifically, under state law, they're considered "antique firearms" when they're unloaded and "antique firearms" are confusingly excluded from the definition of "firearm". Upon being loaded, or even by simultaneously possessing a muzzleloading handgun and the caps, powder, and projectiles that can be used to load them, they are then considered "loaded firearms". From my understanding, possessing a conversion cylinder allowing it to shoot modern .45 Colt seems to also turn it from an "antique firearm" into a "firearm". If you have any interest in reading this state's idiotic laws on the topic for yourself, I suggest reading Article 265 of the NY Penal Law. Sections I've found to be relevant are 265.00 Definitions, paragraphs 3, 14, and 15, and 265.01(4) Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.

[@NoNo-fy3kr]

Read a story a while ago where some guy was prosecuted and found guilty for having "Ammo" in his possession. What he had was projectile for his black powder rifle. A lump of lead. No powder .. Just the projectile. google Mark Witaschek

[@cristianespinal9917]

@@viewer762 I did the same. I had a Pietta replica Remington New Model Army as a wall hanger. When I got my license, I added it then bought a conversion cylinder and black powder supplies. It's a phenomenal shooter, even with its crappy sights.

[@TheLurker1647]

Why on earth the supreme court doesn't just say, "nah brah, shall not be infringed, shit's all legal" is astonishing.

[@titan_3634]

@@TheLurker1647 true that, when the supreme court ruled on banning convicted felons from possession in the disertation it was commented that "I think the founding fathers would approve", thats not true at all. Up intil the end of the 19th century If you had a fire arm on your person when you were arrested and sent to prison, they handed it back to you when you left. Our founding fathers during the revolutionary war, on occation, had paroled captured enemy troops and allowed them to leave with weapons on the signature pledge not to enter the war again as a combatant.

[@kennethleo4471]

In my state, the state of Rhode Island, these are just one paragraph from legally being firearms under state law. However, bb/pellet guns are classified as firearms. Its why BB guns cannot he shipped here and if a felon has one they can be charged with illegal possession of a firearm. Black powder guns can be used by felons as they are considered "antique firearms" under the ATF definition which we use. Firearms are defined as any machine gun, pistol, rifle, air rifle, air pistol, "blank gun," "BB gun," or other instrument from which steel or metal projectiles are propelled, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, except crossbows, recurve, compound, or longbows, and except instruments propelling projectiles which are designed or normally used for a primary purpose other than as a weapon. The frame or receiver of the weapon shall be construed as a firearm under the provisions of this section.

[@mesniburek1652]

I would definitely agree on the fact that black powder can be sketchy. My dad has a coworker and his son who is around 18 had a small black powder cannon (much smaller than a pistol) and something went off when he was loading it or something and he almost lost an eye.......as far as i know he partially recovered his eyesight but not completely......definitely be cautious around these things.

[@Ech0Sierra]

If it was a reload after the first firing it could have been a hot ember in the barrel setting off the fresh powder charge. That's why military cannon doctrine dictated that the barrel was swabbed with a wet bore mop before reloading.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

I've been shooting black powder most of my life, and the only time it's ever "sketchy" is when you don't know what you're doing. Every black powder accident I have ever seen has always been caused by some idiot doing something he/she shouldn't have been doing, such as loading smokeless powder into a black powder gun or reloading a black powder piece too soon after discharging the last shot or loading while smoking. If you follow the basic rules, you won't ever have an accident with black powder. It's as simple as that.

[@paulnormandin5267]

Great vid Brandon, just a couple corrections (I have been instructing newbies in black powder weapons since the middle 80's). Your antique pocket pistol is a model 1849, I believe you mentioned an 1856 date (you may have been referring to date of manufacture so all good). Also, did I hear you say that the Walker was sometimes referred to as a Dragoon? The three Dragoon models were the follow-ups to the Walker, only about 1000 Walker were made. The Walker would except a 60 grain load of powder in each chamber. This turned out to be to much for the poor quality steel of the day and they sometimes blew apart. Also, the loading lever would fall down upon shooting and slide into a chamber, making it impossible to fire the gun until the lever was returned to its locked position. Dragoon models shortened the barrels by about 1" and reduced the length of the cylinder (now the chambers won't except a 60 grain charge) and added a lock for the loading level so it wouldn't fall down when firing. There were other internal and cosmetic changes as well but the ones I mentioned are the important differences.

[@SFCLeaf702-15]

The first thing I thought when I seen this was "my brother in Christ, if it shoots a projectile, its a firearm"

[@Veltrosstho]

Crossbow.

[@camarokidbb4347]

If you want my recommendation if you’re seriously considering carrying a black powder revolver, the 1858 New Armys would be a good pick in my opinion; their recommended loads are still within the ballpark of .45 ACP in terms of muzzle energy, and the cylinder is (more) easily swappable compared to other black powder revolvers. Also due to its muzzle loading nature, you could potentially get away with loading some #2 Buckshot in there if you don’t feel like aiming all that much. It’s no harder than loading the standard .44 Ball after all. The only caveat to this is that you *MUST* know how to reload in order to actually shoot a black powder of any kind (not “swapping mags” reload, “remake the bullet” reload), but that’s the same issue with any black powder revolver, not just the 1858.

[@poetycko_o_ksiezycu]

remingotns are better! ;3

[@camarokidbb4347]

@UClFTk10abJJ9n2awhuSNbJA touch grass.

[@ommsterlitz1805]

I really don't understand how y'all muricans need a derogation or paper to buy a weapon but you can buy ammo without anything like wtf. I would gladly owned a black powder conversion but you can't get ammo without tons of documentation and payement here in Europe so just not worth the trouble and we just buy a normal gun with all that paper work.

[@nwah816]

Or ... you could carry 12 of these !

[@MrTak44]

this guy black powders.

[@Elminster-ln4yw]

I came because of an interesting title, I stayed because this man is incredibly charismatic (and black powder guns are cool)!

[@SStupendous]

Then I'm sure you'll stay, Brandon's the best!

[@darschpugs4690]

I might not agree with everything he says but he is funny and makes great videos.

[@KingsizeKini]

Right? Dude is extremely charming

[@geordiegeorge9041]

Black powder small arms are really cool. But they are a pain in the butt to clean , especially the revolvers.

[@adamesd3699]

First time to see this channel and I love this guy. I burst out laughing about a dozen times while watching. He has natural effortless charisma. And at 5:11 Oh My God!

[@richardchisholm2073]

The two most popular black powder revolvers came in .36 and .44 caliber. The walker you are shooting is a .44, not a .45 even though the ball is larger than .44. You can use .451, .454 or .457. The important thing is to get that lead ring shaved off when loading the ball to insure a tight seal in the chamber to prevent a chain fire. Good video, by the way.

[@user-on3zq2nc7l]

The Walker colt was 45 , it was specially made for Texas Rangers to use against the Commanche Indians. This was really over powered for normal use , but needed against the Commanches.

[@wyomarine6341]

If it shoots a .45 projectile, it's a .45. The .45 acp shoots a .452, is it a .44 also? A .44 Rem Mag shoots a .429 bullet, so basically it's a mislabeled caliber. Not the first time that's ever happened.

[@marksprague1280]

​@@wyomarine6341It starts out as a .45, but by the time its forced into the chamber, it is a .44. That shaving of lead is required to seal the chamber to help prevent chain fires. Interestingly enough, many if not most chain fires are caused by fools who use #11 caps on the slightly smaller "10 nipples. The squeeze the cap to make stay on the nipple, deformity the skirt and leaving a gap which can allow the escaping hot gas from the adjacent fired chamber to ignite the cap.

[@HistoryOnTheLoose]

The Walker was a .44. The balls for cap and ball pistols, regardless of caliber, are oversized before loading. This ensures a gas seal and securely keeps the ball seated tightly on the powder. As clearly stated above, when the ball is forced into the chamber, the opening edge shaves off a lead ring. Think of shoving an apple in a tailpipe. The apple is bigger, so the tailpipe shaves off whatever doesn't fit. The oversized apple is now the caliber of the tailpipe, no matter what size it started out as. Walker, Dragoons, 1854 Remington, 1860 Colt, and many others were commonly .44 and the balls would start oversized. What made the Walker different was the size/length of the cylinder. It could hold 60 grains of powder to, let's use the 1860 Colt's, .40. Regardless, they were both .44. If you remove a loaded ball from a .44 cap and ball chamber (let's use.454), and measure it, you will find that front to back it is still .454. However, across it will be .44. The missing lead is a tiny ring on the ground.

[@ksdad2two]

Around 30 years ago I had a buddy that was a felon/ served his time, and he could have a black power revolver because it was not considered a firearm ( this was in Kansas).

[@catdaddy3941]

I am of the opinion that his rights should be fully restored upon completion of his parole/probation. We as a gun community NEED to work to get these laws changed locally and ESPECIALLY on the Federal level.

[@dariendudley941]

IN NYS ANYTHING THAT USES GUN POWDER AND PROJECTILE CANNOT BE IN POSSESSION OF A FELON. I GOT arrested and convicted

[@Chris-hall9080]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@catdaddy3941I’m all for liberty and whatever, however, I think with a felony charge (certainly not a tame crime, generally) I think there is generally good reason to restrict certain people. We don’t know his specific charge so we can’t comment on the severity. I know he’d still be able to cause harm even with a black powder gun, but that sounds like just a legal loophole, similar to how you can legally pour out dozens of packs of water bottles in a store parking lot just to return them and make a profit. Not illegal but in a lot of situations, morally questionable.

[@catdaddy3941]

@@Chris-hall9080 I think you’d be surprised at how tame a felony charge can be. For example, Martha Stewart is a felon and a prohibited person. Not all felonies are created equal which is why there are so many classes of them. A 5-year sentence shouldn’t have a lifetime attachment to it UNLESS it’s relevant. Just my $0.02 though.

[@rshveyda]

I've spoke with a lot of felons and prohibited possessors who were able to buy cap and ball revolvers without having to submit to a background check. Many of them have also been able to purchase conversion cylinders, so they essentially now have a modern firearm. But I wonder how many of them let their probation officer know and got the okay.

[@johnwestenberger6241]

That Colt 1849 revolver is one of the cleanest original examples I've ever seen. Want to see a video on that now!

[@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR]

Probably a reproduction.

[@BetaBuxDelux]

6:25 A prop 65 shoutout. Nice!

[@CombatDoc54]

New to the channel here. Liked, Subscribed and notified. Very informative, educational and just all around funny as hell. Hello from Stone County Missouri.

[@SH1974]

As I read the title, I quickly thought "that must be some law thing", I had no thought about clickbaiting. Here in Switzerland it's in some points similar: - Airguns are not guns, but "potential dangerous items" - as well as baseball bats or axes, machetes or so - Any kind of muzzle loader (black powder, no cartrige) is considered as a gun, but it's totally license free to buy - Bolt action rifles (many hunting rifles as well as the K31) are license free to buy, but You have to prove a clean background check. - any kind of short weapons (except muzzle loaders and airguns) as well as any kind of semi auto rifle requires a license.

[@KettleHatt]

Out of curiosity do the black powder ones require a background check as well, since they're considered guns, or no? Also is there an age restriction to buy airguns? Here in the states it's generally 18 y/o for those

[@swisswildpicsswp3095]

I'm Swiss and I concur.

[@johnpogany2444]

Is it true that in Switzerland everyone is required to own a gun or have one in their house?

[@SH1974]

​@@johnpogany2444 those who serve in the Swiss Army can keep their firearm (SIG 550 rifle or SIG 220 Pistol) after military service.

[@johnpogany2444]

@@SH1974 l thought so thanks

[@JamesMartin-bu8yu]

Under Federal law, NO, black powder firearms are legally considered "antiques" and not legally firearms. Under State laws, IT DEPENDS, on the state in question whether or not it's a firearm. So you need to be careful and research your state laws to know if your state considers black powder guns as firearms. In some states like New Jersey, buying a black powder firearm through the mail without going through an FFL is a ticket to 20 years in prison. Be very careful. Meanwhile in Texas, Tennessee, and Alaska, you can buy black powder firearms over the counter at most sports shops. No questions asked.

[@ambivalentonion2620]

also laws on possessing metallic cartridge ammunition, whilst it's not legally a firearm if you aren't legally allowed to possess firearms most states also don't allow the possession of ammunition, ik a felon who has an old webley revolver which isn't legally a firearm as pre 1899 but it is a cartridge revolver which in other states would be illegal for him to have the ammunition

[@JDderd]

In New York you can by the not a firearm as if it’s not a firearm. You just can’t own the means to shoot it. Speaking only about the pistols. Black powder rifles you can buy at the dollar store if you want. Well I mean if they sold them.

[@philondez]

Ha, reminds me of when I was little and they just had muzzleloaders sitting on a shelf with the BB and pellet rifles at Walmart

[@FrankieJames7]

Alaska law says anything capable of expelling a lethal projectile by way of explosive or similar means is a firearm. while you will not be subject to a nics, if you are a felon within the last 10 years and you are caught with a black powder concealable gun, you will get another felony charge or maybe it is a misdemeanor the first 2 times i forgot. Alaska says felons are not prohibited to own non concealable guns, meaining unless you are caught by the fbi or atf felons can own guns. the more you know

[@FrankieJames7]

@@ambivalentonion2620 it is currently an american federal offense for prohibited persons to posses smokeless powder cartridge firearms or ammunition. meaning you can buy a gun pre 1898 say a mauser, but not be able to legally own the ammo for it. ridiculous if you ask me. the exception is, felons can own guns and ammo that are not "commercially available" ie wildcat ammo. it is hard to say what a court would do if the cops took you to jail on felon in possesion charges and then your defense would be let me out that gun was a 7mm-300 or something like that.

[@davidthornton-xu1hq]

Use bore butter or crisco on top of bullet. This will help protect against premature round fire from other cylinders.

[@sled_neckx9972]

I just got one of these. Should be fun to play with!