This Is One Of My Favorite TypeScript Features

[@WebDevSimplified]

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[@feha92]

You could also achieve this with algebraic data types (ADTs) such as "sum" types, instead of discriminating unions. ps: yes, I am aware that they are names for the same thing (and even more exists, "tagged unions" or "union types" is also common (though "union types" are arguably different, as some argue that the lack of a [usually internal] "state" field means "int | int | float" is the same as "int | float". This all comes down to idiolects regarding nomenclature though)), that is the joke :p Just much prefer "sum types" as a term ;D pps: Must admit I never saw someone call them "discriminating unions" before (besides wikipedia's list of synonyms) though. ppps: not rly dont any typescript, but was surprised to see both that the discriminating tag had to be explicitly written, and that the switch-case was done on the state field, rather than pattern-match the actual type of the LocationType itself (or match on the typeof), which would come with an implicit type-cast.

[@jamienordmeyer4345]

This is one of those patterns that feels so obvious when you see it, but would be easy to miss if you hadn't seen a direct example of it. Great topic for a video!!

[@zlackbiro]

One character of code can fix it, location.coord!.lat if you know the success case will always have coords. Just flag it with exclamation. LoL...😂

[@dirknash4113]

​@@zlackbiroestás de broma, no? Esto que has dicho es una barbaridad 😂

[@aArcziMetin2]

It's definitely good feature, especially if you have array with mixed objects.

[@dashyftw]

Just a note. Discriminated unions should not be overused, as they take exponentially more time to compile the more "states" or branches of typing logic is added. TypeScript has a limit, so if your discriminated union is too complex, TypeScript will be slow and eventually will give you an error. For examples like in the video; its mostly fine; but when you start making discriminated unions over (for example) every HTMLElement subtype; you'll be unintentionally creating a sluggish TS environment.

[@WilhelmBerggren]

Nice video. I was hoping that you would have mentioned using "never" as a way to prevent Typescript from merging a union together. E.g. "type AorB = { a: true, b: never } | { a: never, b: true }"

[@VoonNBuddies]

How does this scale if, like in the video, you have 3 union types instead of 2? Or 5 or 10?

[@nowayicommented1314]

As a senior I’m using this at least once in every project. Great video 👍🏼

[@zlackbiro]

If you using this, you bloating your code. One character in code can fix it, location.coord!.lat if you know the success case will always have coords. Just flag it with exclamation. LoL...😂

[@nowayicommented1314]

@@zlackbiroyou don’t have real type safety that way tho. Maybe this works for your small projects but I also code for good DX so having stable & advanced typing is important. Also you’re not really bloating your code since the types will be removed before the code is shipped anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@NikiHerl]

You don't have to give each sub-type a name: export type FooBar = { type: "Foo" fooProp1: number } | { type: "Bar", barProp43: string } I prefer to write types like this - fewer names also mean fewer bad names, and less time spent devising them :)

[@harag9]

Except proper naming of the type explains them better than just "bar"

[@M0ns1gn0r]

​@@harag9the proper name is already encoded in the type property.

[@nomadshiba]

also with method above, to select types individually you can do this: type Foo = Extract or this: type Foo = FooBar & { type: "Foo" }

[@VoonNBuddies]

One thing you can do is have a helper type, State, that contains the state property: type State = { state: T; }; Then use that to compose your stateful types, e.g.: type ErrorLocationState = State & { message: string; };

[@codewithguillaume]

Thanks for this, Kyle !

[@SeRoShadow]

so basically, if a type has varriants, create subtypes for each varriant then use those subtypes together as the type.

[@pepperdayjackpac4521]

basically

[@zlackbiro]

One character of code can fix it, location.coord!.lat if you know the success case will always have coords. Just flag it with exclamation. LoL...😂

[@SeRoShadow]

@@zlackbiro its a question mark ( ? ) and it is not Typescript

[@ekcodes]

​@@SeRoShadowhe's actually right. It's an exclamation mark (!). It's called the non null assertion operator and it's Typescript. Look it up before correcting people.

[@dirknash4113]

​@@ekcodesbut this is an horrible solution.

[@kaleb4093]

Thank you for making this video while I'm preparing for a React TypeScript interview. Awesome timing

[@nagendradevara1]

Angular provides strong support for TypeScript. Are you planning to create a video tutorial on Angular? You seem like the perfect candidate to simplify Angular for others.

[@Exilum]

Thankfully I did use this feature. But more by instinct that actual knowledge. I just figured out mid-writing it could work and tested. I used it in the oppisite direction, to set a value based on the parameters passed. So then typescript knows to only allow related parameters if for example I set error to a value.

[@jam_sessions6814]

Beautiful line separated union type formatering!

[@paullauren316]

Great video. I’ve come to expect great content from you and this one definitely doesn’t disappoint. Well done

[@thewebdesigner]

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[@FunctionGermany]

i like video titles that make a viewer curious. if this video was titled something like "typescript discriminated unions" i might have not watched it because i already know about it. but what if someone is actively searching for this? then the video title would make it much harder to idenfity this video as a matching one, even with the tags, because they don't show up in search results. would be very interested in what you think about this, kyle!

[@WebDevSimplified]

That is a good point. It is really hard to balance this with search and the algorithm. I like to think that if someone searched for Discriminated Unions and this video popped up they would still click it since it is assumed this video is about what they are searching for but I am not 100% sure if they would.

[@FunctionGermany]

@@WebDevSimplified do you think a system with a "subheadline" of sorts could help or could that discourage viewers that might not be interested? LinusTechTips uses more informational and less curious titles for their videos on their floatplane platform if i remember correctly. i wonder if a system that gave the option for both an eye-catching and a "dry" title would work on youtube.

[@WebDevSimplified]

That's an interesting thought. I doubt KZbin would ever implement that, but it would be nice.

[@adimardev1550]

this save tons of pain. thanks for saving us Kyle, very very useful content.

[@harag9]

Nice, would have been better if you extended this and added in maybe a field that is available in all 3 states, as well as a field that is available is 2 of the states. or maybe optional fields in 2 but required in the 3rd. So many possibilities.

[@MoDlegion]

You could just solve the last issue using a separate function with a typeguard though right? e.g. function isLoadingState(input: any): input is LoadingState { return typeof input.state === "string"; } It is a little bit more verbose but it would work (add similar functions for the other options).

[@aaronresing4692]

Dang, beat me to it. 😂

[@AutisticThinker]

Nice. It's difficult to find advanced Typescript tutorials. Great work Kyle. 😀

[@dog4ik]

Advanced? Matt Pocock is great option.

[@Pilosofia]

Try no BS TS from Jack Herrington.

[@NewQuietBear]

I used this in my school project. It's neat.

[@StephenMoreira]

Very nice, learned something here, thanks for the video.

[@ptomasz2453]

You can use type guard for last scenario

[@KenBanksPEng]

chatGpt says: Why did the discriminated union break up with its partner? Because every time it tried to commit, it found itself in a different state!

[@basdfgwe]

This was actually really interesting.

[@MattMcT]

Excellent vid topic! I didn’t know that pattern had a name!

[@Patinhow100]

As always, thank you for your greats videos!

[@mauriciomueller86]

Your content is awesome man, thanks for every single video that you created so far! Ps: You should teach us how to have a cool hair like yours 😃

[@MithrilldGamer]

Nice video! btw, I would like to see a video from you about Type Guards :)

[@jayjani740]

Very useful one! Thanks

[@hakuna_matata_hakuna]

like your video styles, can we get a suspense video too? how to use it , best practices

[@ArchitecTJ37]

Well it's a good one........been learning TS and getting use to the writing style. Glad I earn something from this video.

[@JohanNordberg]

Yes this is super useful! Something I wish C# had this natively as well.

[@RayAndrewsDev]

Me : Takes a break from coding around a type problem and watch youtube to clear my head. Kyle: Hey that problem you're having .. here's the solution you hadn't though of Thanx :)

[@alontalmor]

Great video, thanks😊

[@ekomardiatno5517]

finally i found what i need, thanks!

[@Trekiros]

I always forget that this is considered the "special" type of union, since "regular" unions are so much more unintuitive to actually use to me

[@bowiemtl]

Interesting, seems I have some more stuff to learn regarding typescript.

[@mritunjaykalyan2878]

Omg this is amazing. Previously I was using conditional check unnecessarily something like this error?error:’’ Thank bro 😎

[@amirulidzham]

Great! Thanks Kyle

[@nomadshiba]

for type organization, you can also do this: export type LoadingState = LoadingState.Loading | LoadingState.Success | LoadingState.Error export namespace LoadingState { export type Loading = { status: "loading" } export type Success = { status: "success" coords: { lat: number, lon: number } } export type Error = { status: "error" error: { message: string } } } don't use `namespace`s for your runtime code, you can't tree shake them. but its completely ok to use them for types only

[@cggs3001]

Thanks man good stuff!

[@wij8044]

You could keep the code from the start of the video and change your switch statement to read the data directly rather than rely on String literal to determine cases. For the “errors”, they’re not errors, you can use optical chaining. At the end of the day both solutions yours and mine) would still need testing and I prefer the simple solution. That said, it’s also wise to consider SOLID principles as you may have.

[@lostinchina8585]

Typescript strict mode would not like that

[@imadragnZ]

Gj one way to improve these kinds of demos is for me to tell wich design pattern or solid principal that could fit into ✌️

[@moretimeproductions]

This is powerful!

[@brobinbraauw5523]

Nice video, thanks

[@SithLordBishop]

awesome, very concise and clean. Too bad there isn't a way to write this out a bit more shorthand or less verbose.

[@zlackbiro]

One character of code can fix it, location.coord!.lat if you know the success case will always have coords. Just flag it with exclamation. LoL...😂

[@Mark1-f2n]

Also found useful if you need to extend some type use intersection and union in one place. type Config = {//some properties//} & ({ driver: "turso"; dbCredentials: { url: string; authToken?: string; }; } | { driver: "better-sqlite"; dbCredentials: { url: string; }; })

[@ruggeddog3103]

thank you kyle

[@codemadesimple1043]

Well done 🎉

[@smoguesam7807]

Thank you

[@RishiRajxtrim]

Thanks

[@mralextacy]

excellent tip

[@technologymad9253]

Bro some hair care and style tips?

[@jx4172]

beautiful!

[@paulosergioamorim_]

The Rust Enums are good for that

[@evolopterus]

What if you want to keep the previously loaded coords, while the state is loading the new ones, or even if there's an error?

[@martijn3151]

If I may add. In your example, state would be a perfect candidate for an enum, as opposed to a hardcoded string.

[@48595157484812]

great info

[@utkarshagrawal3640]

Who is still procrastinating their dream project.

[@yanike]

Awesome 😎

[@ayitinya]

How about discriminated Union Arrays, like type LocationState = (LoadingLocationState | SuccessLocationState)[]

[@Wielorybkek]

That was neat

[@Blafasel3]

Couldnt you use a type guard on the last type to solve the issue? Wouldnt be of much help tho. And I always wondered why people would use different optional attributes which are either absent or have to be present depending on another field. Just implement a new interface or class and make it explicit like in this video... :) Sadly, I have seen this way too often 😅

[@web3made]

Awesome TS tutorial, but what about the issue of having too many types in your repo?

[@NikiHerl]

As I wrote in a comment above, you don't have to give each sub-type a name, just union | the type literals { type: "foo", ... } together. Though I have to ask: In what way is having

[@SoreBrain]

Stick to fewer "base" types and then use utility types where possible to derive from them and keep inferring types. Unless you have a good reason for it you should not have more types than minimally required.

[@everyhandletaken]

You can stick them in another ts file & import them, all good

[@saffanahmed9103]

Can't we use a null check to simply resolve the error

[@anthonyyershov4156]

Aren't conditional types kind of like discriminating types but with generics?

[@davideoreglio5232]

does this work with enums instead of literal values?

[@untlsn]

I prefer to put error in success and data in error as maybe. Otherwise typescript will shout that, for example, error does not occur in the type Success Example: type SuccessLocation { state: 'Success' cords: { lat: number; lon: number } error?: { message: string } }

[@mikel3377]

That defeats the entire point. The whole point of this video is to have separate type that you can discriminate between at runtime so you know what's defined or not where.

[@vojtechprazak533]

There is no downside, you just write that if wrong, to make it work, you need to create typeguard, then it will work great. Personaly i would write it bit different, if you create base interafce with property state with type string, but even better is string enum or string union type (there is no room for error), then creating 2 other soecific interfaces 1st with error, 2nd with coords, then by checking state via typeguard you get final type without using type union.

[@jomarcui2900]

Could you explain this a bit more? I am interested in your solution. Thanks in advanced! :)

[@brunokotesky5965]

You can work with non literal types, you just need to write a boilerplate type assertion function like this: type BaseState = { state: string; } type ExampleState = { state: number; label: string; } type States = BaseState | ExampleState; function assertion(obj: States): obj is ExampleState { return typeof obj.state === 'number' && 'label' in obj; } let data: any = { state: 1, label: 'test' } if (assertion(data)) data.state // number

[@maelstrom57]

Which is a pain in the ass to do when you have multiple complex types.

[@ivanho570]

I cant believe I just faced the exact situation after watching this😂

[@adnantariq3346]

Very nice. I like!! 😑

[@andykras]

how do you implement default case in TS to address 'unkown state' from backed? e.g., looks like "type safe" shit to me: ```ts default: console.log('unknown state:', (location as { state: string }).state) break ``` you can't just write "location.state", because TS throws an error: Property 'state' does not exist on type 'never'. this is because TS doesn't know what to choose for "default" case. this is what I call the fake type safety, because naturally TS is JS, so writing types in TS you deluding yourself into a false sense of security aka "type safety". as ultimately TS compiles down to JS, and the types disappear in the runtime...

[@linhub]

I see the "vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv" do you use the WASD Code keyboard?

[@oliversaxon8656]

Nice

[@unknownmonkey8661]

Moar typescript hints!!1

[@Hizbullla]

I have massive issues with having to constantly check for undefined when working with optional properties using logical ANDs or ternaries. It results in bloated code that's unpleasant to look at. Is something like this an acceptable solution to it or are there more refined ways to do it?

[@geralt36]

The way shown in the video is the best way to do this as far as my knowledge of TS goes. I use it myself.

[@Jufron97]

Another useful practice to distinguish between types is to use ‘in’, for example at the end of the video where you have Loading and Success state but only Success state has the coords property, you could say: if(“coords” in location){… your code} and inside those brackets ts will know you are in SuccesState.

[@stevezelaznik5872]

It’s hard to know without looking at your code. Well written typescript makes a lot of other defensive programming unnecessary.

[@nearest-river]

Promise solves everything..xd

[@cherubin7th]

I don't like that it matches on a literal field inside this objects. Instead the match/switch should check on the type, like you do with an Rust enum.

[@mikel3377]

You can't check a type at runtime because types don't exist at runtime in JS/TS.

[@gg.cip0t]

Should I really learn TS if i know JS. I tried but couldnt find any video where i can learn basics of ts in react and node.

[@outis99]

Yes you absolutely should. Trust me you won't go back

[@geralt36]

Once you know TS well enough you can follow JS tutorials and convert them to TS yourself. It's not that hard. It's what I do as well. And yes, you should learn TS. It's the industry standard now. Pretty much every web dev job has TS as a requirement.

[@SebbeSebbe]

Still looks weird to have arbitrary strings in the switch statements - will become hell to reactor "Success" into something else in the future. Can't state be an enum that holds the different state values to improve maintainability?

[@SoreBrain]

I also like enums but there is also noFallthroughCasesInSwitch that should help

[@bass-tones]

They’re not arbitrary strings. TS is smart enough to know based on the object in the switch that all of the strings must be one of however many literals. If one of the cases was against a random string that didn’t match, the compiler would throw an error. If any of the types had their string label refactored, all spots depending on that apparent arbitrary string would break at compile time.

[@trevydouglas4145]

noted, but why not just separate the states in one overhead type? type LocationState = { success:boolean error:boolean coordinates: {some object} errorMessage: ' ' }

[@brunokotesky5965]

You might not have control over the 'state' object you're working with.

[@maelstrom57]

Why would you have a coordinate property at all when you're not in a success state? It's literally the whole of a discriminated union type.

[@amansarma417]

What to do when a package doesn't have a types support

[@parlor3115]

Hey Kyle. I've been a fan since the early days of wds. Problem is that I've been working on my dream project since pretty much day one of this channel, but I'm still not done with it (it's been 3 years already). My dream project is a Unix kernel developed using Rust (frontend and backend). I faced major hurdles while working on it, and now I feel it's never ending work. What am I doing wrong? PS: I talked with Linus Torvalds about collaborating, but he just flipped me the bird and stormed off yelling "Nvidia!!!".

[@EdwardWork-m5t]

Υοur channel keeps discussing things that are useful for interns. Maybe bump up the difficulty a little bit?

[@thenotoriousrt]

This is good but i just think that theres to much naming going around. I just wanted to know whats your take on using mapped types for e.x: type LocationStateMapped = { Success: { state: "Success"; coords: { lat: number, lon: number } }; Loading: { state: "Loading" }; Error: { state: "Error"; error: { message: string } }; }; type LocationState = LocationStateMapped[keyof LocationStateMapped];

[@mikel3377]

All just opinions, but I think the "type LocationState = LocationStateMapped[keyof LocationStateMapped];" makes this less readable. If you really want to go for terseness, I'd just define the single type straightforwardly: "type LocationState = {...} | {...} | {...}"

[@chrishabgood8900]

separation of concerns.

[@chrisdaman4179]

Is this alao called a tagged union?

[@NikiHerl]

Yup

[@muncho404]

TS is "wannabe Swift" version of JS

[@sam_patrik]

I'm already using this without knowing its called ' discriminating union '😅

[@GermanoLisboa]

I love how typescript involves adding a lot of extra code, just to tell typescript that your JavaScript is, indeed, valid code and it should stop complaining

[@brNoMundo123]

Incrível 🇧🇷

[@Book2997]

Hays It adds more lines in my file

[@cuongnguyenhuu2836]

but u cant reuse the properties in this case

[@sigma_z]

As a Brain Fuck developer, I can confirm that I use discrimination union all the time. 😅

[@CoryTheSimmons]

At this point, should we all just migrate to XState? Isn't this basically what it does?

[@LiRaye]

The problem is, no api documents something like that 😢

[@tmanley1985]

If you're using discriminated unions, you should pair that with exhaustive type checking to get the full benefits.

[@NikiHerl]

What is exhaustive type checking / what does it look like (in the TS context)?

[@denissorn]

The state variable seems quite unnecessary here. Or... it would be superfluous if TS was a real language. Data type already communicates the info (kinda, b/c TS). The downside would be that one couldn't use the switch statement but would have to check for presence of say coordinates property.

[@dilanboskan2222]

Someone does not know how typescript works..

[@NikiHerl]

Typescript uses a structural typesystem, where indeed you need the discriminator variable, as opposed to a named typesystem (Java, ...), where instead the named type (class) information is around at runtime. This has nothing to do with "real" language or not - both systems have their advantages (syntactically) and can achieve pretty much the same things.

[@denissorn]

I don't, unfortunately neither do you it seems. Or maybe you have a better way of figuring out the type during runtime?

[@denissorn]

@@NikiHerl LOl. Of course it has to do with it being a "real" language or not, because it compiles to JS, so types do not exist at runtime. But yeah it is what it is.

[@adambickford8720]

@@denissorn It's a different way of doing types with its own tradeoffs, it's not some shortcoming that couldn't be avoided. It's a deliberate design choice and its wonderfully productive. In something like Java you have what are known as 'nominal' types. Java doesn't have to check the 'shape' of the object, it knows by the required class name that it's the right shape. The upside is its provably correct by the type system. The downsides are you *have* to give the type a name and you can't assign `Foo` to `Bar` even if they are *identical* interfaces, you're forced to write some kind of adapter. In a larger codebase this is a non-trivial problem. TS uses structural subtyping. If it's the right 'shape' its allowed, it doesn't matter what the nominal name is... if it even has one. The upside is you get 99% of the benefits of nominal types without the headaches. The downside is you can now pass a `Gun` to a function that takes a `Camera` because it contains a `shoot()` function. In practice, this almost never happens. To be clear, this is all happening at compile time, not runtime, so its distinctly different from 'duck typing'.

[@naterpotatoers]

I have some code i need to refactor…