This Is Scary For The Jets, But...

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Johnny Hawkey

Johnny Hawkey

7 ай бұрын

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Subscribe to johnny hawkey for daily nhl news, recaps and rundowns of nhl highlights today 2023 , trade rumors , reactions to big goals and top plays as well as funny moments like when the players are mic'd up / caught on a hot mic , picks and predictions and more. Nhl hockey winnipeg jets attendance is definitely alarming right now and we need to talk about how this stirs up rumours of relocation , and we revisit their return to winnipeg 2011 and the atlanta thrashers part of this. NHL 2023

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@4shitzNgigglez74
@4shitzNgigglez74 7 ай бұрын
I think you have to step outside the hockey world to explain this one. More than half of Canadians are saying they are less than $200 from not being able to pay for their bills. $80-$400 tickets are just not feasible, food and shelter are more important.
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@xreptarbreex
@xreptarbreex 7 ай бұрын
For someone named MrSupahLMFAO, I have to say this statement was much more downer than funny@@MrSupahLMFAO
@bunsw2070
@bunsw2070 7 ай бұрын
Income has nothing to do with debt. Most couples live way beyond their means. We're on the verge of a once in 1000 year depression at the same time that affordably recoverable energy and minerals are getting scarce. There's a reason western governments have been doing things for a few that make no sense to anybody and they don't even care that it's obvious. Israel leaves the worlds most protected border unprotected for seven hours while America and Europe have had open borders with unknown entrants for years. What could go wrong? What kind of terrorist attack would allow our governments to go completely totalitarian?
@nolankuffner3573
@nolankuffner3573 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg is a massive hockey city compared to places like Ottawa and literally anywhere in Saskatchewan. Hell, I've met well over a thousand people that make over 120k per year. I make a good wage, though not half of that and my life doesn't feel so shitty. The issues I hear from people that don't 'have enough' while driving 100k trucks, going out 3-5x a week, supporting a thousand dollar a month weed habit, and putting down for a house while not working 4 months because they still have faith in oil being sustainable is it's not a good value. Keeping in mind casino and lottery takes aren't dropping off. No, the issue isn't people spending more on other things, it's that they no longer see value in public gatherings. Covid KILLED it. And not for the people that are die hards. Most of them that don't go? Anti-vaxxers and anti-Trudeau supporters who heard 'you need the vaccine' and that translated to 'well, guess we don't need your business'. Bombers season tickets don't get hit when your chances of success are literally 3 times higher than the NHL. When you play 9-10 home games, 11 if you HOST the Grey Cup. 4x that amount, for people that are already looking for an excuse not to support the team (maybe their support is tentative to the team being REALLY good, or just not caring until a certain time in the season). The fact is, smaller markets have made long schedules work. Tampa SHOULD work, but the Rays can't draw playoff games, so success also isn't a big deal for some. Really, when it all comes down to it, people would rather get high or try to get laid than sit at a hockey rink, pay too much for beer, and go home alone.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
@@bunsw2070 Wow, you just had go down the "Illegals ruin everything" path, didn't you? The US and Canada do not have open borders, not at all. Open borders is the EU Schengen Area where you can go over country borders without going through any checkpoints, which is honestly what the US-Canada border needs
@omfg322
@omfg322 7 ай бұрын
The average person doesn't want to spend 200-300$ a ticket when that's roughly the price for a week of food.....
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@lukestange
@lukestange 7 ай бұрын
$200 for a ticket is insane. blues tickets are as low as like $20-$30
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
@@lukestange Toronto Maple Leafs $96 US/$125.59 CDN, Montreal Canadiens- $88 US/$115.13 CDN, Vancouver Canucks- $76 US/$99.43 CDN, Winnipeg Jets- $73 US/$95.50 CDN. There are 3 other teams with higher ticket pricings yet it's always packed in their hockey rink.
@rubberduckie5518
@rubberduckie5518 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAOnot true about the Canucks…unless people bought the tickets but just dont go. lots of empty seats on broadcast
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO I don't know where you're getting these prices; but most NHL tickets in Canada are in triple figures and lower bowl tickets are usually C$200 or higher.
@henryglavina2910
@henryglavina2910 7 ай бұрын
Im a winnipeger and i’d go to a jets game every chance I got if there was a chance in hell I could afford that. Jets games are an annual luxury event unless there’s a last minute price drop due to poor attendance for us
@LEV1ATHYN
@LEV1ATHYN 7 ай бұрын
I understand that. NHL tickets aren't cheap. But there ARE tens of thousands of Jets fans who can afford to go and aren't going.
@rubberduckie5518
@rubberduckie5518 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps the real issue is hockey isn’t as entertaining as it used to be. Most would rather do something else or watch NFL, NBA, MLB etc.
@LEV1ATHYN
@LEV1ATHYN 7 ай бұрын
@@rubberduckie5518 That's ridiculous. Hockey has been bottom 4 of the big 4 sports leagues for as long as their have been 4 sports leagues. Comparing it to those leagues in the context of "what it used to be" makes no sense.
@ryananderson5202
@ryananderson5202 7 ай бұрын
FIRE CHEVY!
@rubberduckie5518
@rubberduckie5518 7 ай бұрын
@@LEV1ATHYN thats true. but my main point is they’re still competitors and thats also including the fact that there’s just more exciting things to do than pay for a hockey game
@SportsFan838
@SportsFan838 7 ай бұрын
God I hope the Jets stay in Winnipeg. It's always a treat to see them go absolute nuts once playoff time comes. I pray everything goes well down the road
@Commentsurveillance
@Commentsurveillance 7 ай бұрын
Jets are trash Hope they relocate again 😂😂😂😂
@LeeArmstrong47
@LeeArmstrong47 7 ай бұрын
Why do everyone want the jets to be relocated😂 look at the teams in the USA who always are low in attendance.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@LeeArmstrong47 They aren't southern teams. They're teams like Buffalo, right beside Canada, or Arizona.
@bhavdeeprehal8827
@bhavdeeprehal8827 7 ай бұрын
Jets will be fine man. It’s people who have no clue about why they left in the 90s and how the modern nhl is different today, not to mention a dedicated owner. It’s totally different today.
@jecrex8349
@jecrex8349 7 ай бұрын
Habs fan chipping in here, decent tickets are ridiculously expensive. I don't know if it's Centre Bell, the Habs or Ticketmaster but i can get a good seat for one person at 120 bucks, when i try to get 2 it's now $210 per seat. WTF
@nickpreyma7374
@nickpreyma7374 7 ай бұрын
As a Winnipegger who attends roughly 2-3 games a year and at least one playoff game (overpriced aftermarket ticket-cause nothing compares to playoff hockey and a white out in Canada Life Center). I think this is being blown out of proportion. Attendance is bad, yes. But we’re not the only market that has attendance woes. Take a look across the league and you will see another half dozen or so teams also struggling. Inflation and the economy is hitting us Canadians HARD! yes, Winnipeg has the second most affordable ticket and concession prices in Canada, but Winnipeg is a working class city and right now the fact of the matter is, we’re struggling! I have no doubt, with Mr.Chipman at the helm, Winnipeg will be home to the Jets as long as he’s in charge! The impact True North has had on this community in trying to revitalize downtown, and getting the Arena with the necessary upgrades. Has been second to none!
@markjohnston7285
@markjohnston7285 7 ай бұрын
They’ll be fine. True north does a fantastic job and the team won’t go anywhere. Wealthiest owners in the league. Like you said it’s just a bump in the road. I’ve been going to 10 games(partial season tickets) per year every year since they returned and I will continue to do so. Go jets
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 7 ай бұрын
What has True North done recently? Numerous fans have called out the poor in-game experience. Numerous former season-ticket holders have cited the poor correspondence with season ticket reps as the reason they cancelled their tickets. And the Jets aren't in the community like they used. They don't have players showing up and surprising residents with ticket to games or anything like that. And more so, the one-ice product is mediocre, and you have have GM that is too cheap and too conservative to make big moves. To just have 3 playoff series wins in 12 seasons is nowhere near good enough in any league. And yet, Chevy still has job. Stanley Cup winning GMs don't last 12 years. The culture of this franchise is poor. Anytime they play a good team, as soon as they face adversity, they fold. Saw it all last season when they played the better teams. And the problems on this team were more than just 2 players. Fans would probably show more if the team was in a rebuild for the future. Fans want a contender. Not a middling team on the playoff bubble every year.
@SRACHER
@SRACHER 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAObro trying to call Canucks fans real is a joke to begin with. Second to tell a Canadian fan base that they have fake hockey fans has got to be the dumbest hockey take ever uttered out of someone's mouth.😂
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
@@SRACHER Canucks average attendance is 18,702 with the average ticket price of $159. Jets average attendance is 14,045 with the average ticket price of $139. Both are in the province with 12% tax. The cost of living in Vancouver is 54% more expensive than in Winnipeg. Vancouver ranked #2 most expensive city in Canada while Winnipeg is ranked 80th in Canada. More Canucks fans willing to spend more money to watch their team than Jets fans do. That tells you a lot about Jets fans. Leafs have the best fanbase in Canada. Overpriced tickets yet always sold out. Second would be the Habs. Canucks are third. Jets are literally at the bottom being worst than Ottawa. Most Jet fans who thinks their ticket is overpriced are the ones that never been to Vancouver or Toronto or any world class cities. Once they leave, they'll realized they had it good with the pricings in WInnipeg than with other cities.
@jeffhembd9471
@jeffhembd9471 7 ай бұрын
Wealthiest owners in the league? You think?
@ericarmit232
@ericarmit232 7 ай бұрын
The cost of living in Canada has significantly risen and I'm sure is a factor in why attendance is down.
@mattk909
@mattk909 7 ай бұрын
I'm a jets fan. Was at 2 games last year and got a 4 game bundle in the upper level this year. But it's an expensive night out so I can't do it as much as I might want to. The problem is all of the above. Inflation is the biggest, smaller market, middling team...
@trevorconnatser6161
@trevorconnatser6161 7 ай бұрын
I’m not even a Jets fan but even as a TBL fan, I know they don’t need me to fill out seats at Amelie Arena but I’m a huge TBL fan and going to games even for me is a Luxury, it’s just so expensive, especially as a college student who has to worry about so much financially, making it to a game is honestly rare
@evinrock5717
@evinrock5717 7 ай бұрын
I’m the biggest die hard leaf’s fan and I’ve never been to a leafs home game. I Live around 4 hours away and have been to Toronto a bunch but games are sooo expensive and with inflation and Covid and a bunch of other reasons your average hockey loving families are being driven away from watching live. Even back when I was younger my family went to a few Pre season games and even then the prices were high for a game that doesn’t actually matter.
@metalmarty3948
@metalmarty3948 7 ай бұрын
Why is this only talked about in Winnipeg. Attendance is down everywhere in the league. Anyone see the Buffalo game the other day? Looked like a quarter of the seats were empty. It's not only Winnipeg. Here's a thought: Stop charging people 200.00 for a good seat, 13.00 for a beer, and over 5.00 for a coke. Sign all these millionaire players to big contracts and now they expect us as fans to pay for their wages? Ridiculous. It's only going to get worse over the next 20 years as the lowest paid player will want 3 million dollars a year. Our wages for our jobs can't keep up with these ridiculous prices.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
The majority of the teams in the League are not selling out. I only count ten, one-third of the League, and I don't count a team drawing 4,600 in a college hockey arena. San Jose is a mess. Buffalo continues to struggle because the Sabres can't make the playoffs. Calgary is drawing around 2,000 empty seats a game and that's likely to increase the longer the Flames stay out of playoff contention.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@FischerFan So send the Flames or Jets (Thrashers) back to Atlanta. Problem solved.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 But let the Coyotes stay in Arizona and keep costing the League money, right?
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@FischerFan The Coyotes issue is that the arena and financial situation hasn't exactly been stable, nor have they ever been a really good team, such as other sunbelt teams at other times. The Phoenix area is a large city as well. Sure, it's smaller than Atlanta, but it is the tenth largest metropolitan area in the USA.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 Like the Florida Panthers, the Coyotes have been a financial catastrophe for almost thirty years. How much more time and lenience should they be given? Eventually, the owners are going to want their money back. Just because an American market is large does not mean it's destined to be a successful one for the NHL.
@jenngoldberg8613
@jenngoldberg8613 7 ай бұрын
Gotta say, they have one of the coolest jerseys, and when they fill out the crowd, it looks awesome, although being an Avs fan, I think we have the best logo.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
Bro Vegas has the best jerseys
@econoline_crush7646
@econoline_crush7646 7 ай бұрын
@@coastaku1954 no they don't lol
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
The Thrashers baby blues looked much better.
@igmusicandflying
@igmusicandflying 7 ай бұрын
Being a Red Wings fan it's still difficult for me to give any credit to the Avs, and while I don't think the Avs logo is the best, I will hand it to you, it's pretty damn cool.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
@@econoline_crush7646 Yes they do, it's GOLD!!!!
@ryandenton190
@ryandenton190 7 ай бұрын
It's sad in a city with 800k people that they can't fill 15k seats in a countries biggest sport
@user-ji3il6ce2o
@user-ji3il6ce2o 2 ай бұрын
Winnipeg is garbage
@77dris
@77dris 19 күн бұрын
If people can't afford it, what are you gonna do? I know a lot of Jet season tix holders that last year finally said enough is enough. It was a choice between watching hockey or putting food on the table, and maybe doing some other things. Tix are expensive and concessions are expensive, and the arena is downtown where nobody lives, and nobody wants to go because it's been overrun by zombies (mostly from reserves around the province). These are the facts. Don't listen to people who don't live in Winnipeg when they give reasons such as "the arena is too basic" or give stats on average income etc. It's all nonsense based on no facts on the matter.
@spime93
@spime93 7 ай бұрын
and people wonder why the NHL are expanding to American cities exclusively. People wonder why Atlanta is rumored despite it being their third chance.
@sampicano
@sampicano 7 ай бұрын
Jets sold out EVERY home game for 10 years between 2010 and 2020. Atlanta lost $130 million between 2005 and 2010 - which is the worst loss of money for any hockey team in history. Only dumb Americans would choose Atlanta over Winnipeg.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@sampicano Listen, sampicano, I've explained the entire situation. Here you again. The Flames left because the owner, named Tom Cousins, who owned Cousins Properties, a local commercial real estate company, began having financial problems in the late 1970s (after the Flames had been around about five seasons) when the Federal Reserve Bank raised interest rates. When this happened, other companies who wanted to build things were being denied loans, given the effects of higher interest rates. Cousins Properties could not acquire enough contracts, and thus not enough capital to keep it afloat. Tom Cousins wasn't a deep pocketed owner, and his company's stability was predicated on continuous building. So, in order to save the company, Cousins decided to sell his only asset that could provide him enough cash to prevent his company's insolvency. He sold the Flames. Since he needed a lot of money to save his development business, he sold the Flames to the highest bidder, just which happened to be an interested owner whose intention was to take the team to Calgary. Ted Turner wanted to buy them team, but because he owned two other teams, the Hawks and Braves, the NHL would not allow him to buy the team. There were other interested buyers, but because they did not offer as much, none of them were chosen for sale. The Thrashers' story is a bit more complicated. In 1997, Atlanta was awarded a franchise. The owner was Ted Turner, under Turner Sports. At the time, he had recently sold the Braves, thus allowing him to own an NHL team (because he could only own two teams). However, Turner sold the team, along with his other sports assets, the Atlanta Hawks and Philips Arena in earlier 1999, even before the Thrashers played their first game. He sold them to Time Warner. About a year after the sale, Time Warner merged with AOL (America Online), the largest internet service in America at the time. I don't know how old you are, but they offered dial-up Internet. Here is the issue with that. It wasn't but about two years into the sale that AOL-Time Warner were losing money because people were dropping dial-up Internet rapidly for cable Internet. AOL did not transition quick enough to outcompete competitors, such as Comcast. As a result, AOL-Time Warner became shaky as a company. In order to secure some capital to make them more profitable, as well as to mitigate losses, the company decided to sell its sports teams. Another reason they did so was because with the company's fledgling status, it threatened the stability of both the Thrashers and the Hawks at the time and their long time success. If they had sold them to about any other buyer, the Thrashers would still be in Atlanta. However, they sold them to a group who was only interested in the Atlanta Hawks. The reluctantly bought the Thrashers only because it was the only way for them to get what they wanted, the Atlanta Hawks. From the start, this ownership group, known as Atlanta Spirit Group, a group of businessmen from different cities around the country, wanted to get rid of the Thrashers. In fact, they were ready to sell the moment they acquired the team. What prevented them from doing so is that there were two owners within the group who did want the Thrashers. Mind you, these two owners represented only about a fifth of the owners, as there were at least ten of them. Atlanta Spirit Group, despite the two owners' objections were about to put the team up for sale, but the sale did not happen because the owners who wanted the Thrashers filed a lawsuit against the other owners. For the next six or seven years, the owners were suing one another. The lawsuits cost the ownership group a huge amount of money, making them unprofitable. What's more, they mismanaged their money and handed out huge, unheard of contracts for certain players on the Hawks. This made them even more unstable as an ownership group and made them lose more money. This resulted in the Thrashers selling off most of their good to decent players, and when the ownership group made it known that they did not care about the team, many of the fans lost interest. Even with all this going on, the Thrashers never finished last in attendance. Speculations regarding the owners selling the team crescendoed after the courts decried that that the owners could sell the team. As a result, attendance plummeted in the second half of the last season, as people figured that they were trying to move the team out of Atlanta, and many realized that the owners did not care about the team. During Atlanta Spirit's tenure of owning the Thrashers, they hardly even marketed the team. You could hardly find a billboard advertising for them around the metro area, but you sure saw plenty of Atlanta Hawks billboards, hundreds in fact. This is because Atlanta Spirit wanted to tank the team by lowering the maximum amount of fans who attended games to justify a reason to sell them when they would be allowed to sell the team. Atlanta Spirit did not take seriously any sales to interested parties who would keep the team in Atlanta. Tom Glavine wanted to own the team, but they denied him. There were other groups who came forward, but when they saw the stipulations on the sale, they balked. You see, Atlanta Spirit Group never intended to keep the team here in Atlanta. They even wanted the team out of their arena. One of the owners was later even outspoken and upset that during the Thrashers stay they outsold the Hawks most seasons and that the Thrashers tended to attract a lot of white suburbanites that the Hawks had trouble attracting. Stipulations for the sale were that the new owner could not receive any revenue on concessions or parking, and they had to pay an exorbitant arena use fee to Atlanta Spirit Group. These stipulations were so outrageous that no owner who wanted to keep the team in Atlanta, at Philips Arena, the only Atlanta arena the NHL at the time said was big enough for the team to play in. Thus, in essence, Atlanta Spirit Group forced the team out with nowhere to play. Their stipulations for sale made it where no one would risk such a situation, as that would bankrupt any team. And since the NHL said they could play nowhere else, Atlanta was left with a situation whereby if the team stayed, they'd have to play in Philips Arena and the owner would take huge losses by these sale stipulations. As a result, no one bought the team, and since True North Sports had just been denied the sale of the Phoenix Coyotes, the former Winnipeg Jets, given Glendale agreeing to fund the Coyotes, they then looked to Atlanta and took advantage of the situation, a situation not brought on by the fans but a crooked ownership group.
@atribecalledowens
@atribecalledowens 7 ай бұрын
Good job my friend. My fav hockey channel.
@clout13r
@clout13r 7 ай бұрын
Inflation over 25% in the last 3 years. My salary increase : 12.6% We have no money for billionaires
@clout13r
@clout13r 7 ай бұрын
@@pokemonboardgame the number went up but my buying power went down.
@UltronIsGod12
@UltronIsGod12 7 ай бұрын
Specific teams like my favourite (Pens), Leafs, Habs, Oilers, Rangers, Blackhawks, Bruins, Red Wings make the ticket prices go even higher whenever they come to Winnipeg. Like on TicketMaster, 1 resale ticket like say in Section 107, Row 2 for the Pens game in Winnipeg is like $408 plus added fees. Which is quite ridiculous tbh!
@mynameismud-qd9vu
@mynameismud-qd9vu 7 ай бұрын
It was the same thing with the Columbus game last night.
@pierre-richard6779
@pierre-richard6779 7 ай бұрын
Good video !!!
@winstonrumfoord7927
@winstonrumfoord7927 6 ай бұрын
It's not just Winnipeg, all the small markets are in trouble. Buffalo hosted Boston a couple of weeks ago, lots of empty seats. A flat cap will be the least of the concerns
@Buffalosabskis
@Buffalosabskis 5 ай бұрын
Under 300K and no playoffs since 2011 can do that. In Buffalo during covid fans took an active choice to avoid games in "protest". These people are dumb. It's the same owners as the Bills and people just go after what's good. In 2011 Pegula was the most popular human in Buffalo. Then he turned into one of the most disliked. Everyone follows the team. They just got fed up with a record long playoff drought. Believe me the Bills were not popular from 2000 to 2017. They just only played 8 home games a year compared to the Sabres 41
@marc-antoinemarcoux697
@marc-antoinemarcoux697 7 ай бұрын
Its just not there, in MTL I see a lot of empty seats when before, it was ALWAYS full. The reason why: scalpers and Ticketmaster monopoly. Since all teams dropped their internal systems to sell tickets, Ticketmaster had the monopoly. They asked for a huge cut and also, they dont care about scalpers grabbing tickets before anyone else.in MTL I can afford one game per year and only against shitty teams (Ironically Im going to go see the Detroit red wings and they thought they would be bad so the price came down). I looked at the price against Chicago 4000$ CAD for a pair of tickets in reds in front. Winnipegg is not the biggest nor the wealthiest town in Canada. If Im having problems with tickets in MTL and others too, imagine a smaller market with LESS seats. Ticketmaster is BAD.
@MH-jv8ns
@MH-jv8ns 7 ай бұрын
hope they can keep their team
@jekcu3693
@jekcu3693 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been going to most of the jets this year, and that’s for 1 reason only, I’ve been getting free tickets from work. I honestly wouldn’t be able to afford to go to games with the amount of money I have. Another big thing I could see being an issue is the price of everything in that arena. A beer is $15 for Christ’s sake. Pretty sure a bottle of water is like $7. These are just things most people I know can’t justify spending that much money on these items. A thing that could get more people to attend is if they have special nights with discounted drinks, like $5 beer night or something would definitely get way more people in attendance.
@karljuwde3877
@karljuwde3877 6 ай бұрын
when i went i bought nothing, i can sit for two hours with no bevaerage or snacks!
@MrSmokybones
@MrSmokybones 7 ай бұрын
Im from the Peg! Ive been to a few games, and love the jets, but i feel its more so cause winnipeg is more a blue collar town then a money town like Cal, Edm,Van, Tdot, MTL, not as many ppl with spare money like other provinces, we have one of the lowest wages/salaries compared to other provinces, where its hard to afford to go to a game, think of the bigger picture when going to a game. Pay for a ticket or 2 80-400$, parking 10-15$, drinks food 50-100$, plus fuel to and from, so to manage to get out to a game regularly for a non season ticket holder is hard round here. Also why go to the game when you can watch from the comforts of your home for fraction of the price lol
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
That's why Winnipeg needs better transit and cycling infra, you just mentioned 2 things that are just a car issue. Cars are bleeding you dry
@blackdog052
@blackdog052 7 ай бұрын
Cost of living going up exponentially and ticket prices. Winnipeg isn't a big or wealthy city. I think the ownership group is solid and local municipal and provincial governments give them ridiculous amounts of subsidies, that they can stay viable in the market. I'm a born and raised winnipegger and die hard Jets fan living in Alberta.
@MrDanyboy44
@MrDanyboy44 7 ай бұрын
Let's hope for them that there are more paid tickets than what attendance shows
@hibbs3180
@hibbs3180 7 ай бұрын
It is the same thing from everywhere in the Canadian market. I am from Toronto and I will never in my life be able to afford leaf tickets so I always need to go to buffalo if I want to see a hockey game.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
Now is the time to make the trip. The Sabres are drawing more empty seats than the Jets.
@AJOngenae
@AJOngenae 7 ай бұрын
I held season tickets since day 1... until this season. Number one reason, it was a choice between my son playing hockey or paying to watch the Jets. But on the back of that comment, there just isn't enough disposable income right now to continue with season tickets. Plus, and this is another addition to that comment, the people who bought their tickets right next to me on game day were paying less than 60% of what I paid. It didn't make financial sense. When I want to go to a game, I can pay pennies on the dollar compared to what I was for seasons.
@reedhoule3045
@reedhoule3045 7 ай бұрын
Teams need to sell tickets to fill arenas. I mean, if you need another 4000 people in attendance, you will have to lower your prices. It's better to sell at 1/4 price and have full seats then it is to have ahalf empty stadium.
@metalmarty3948
@metalmarty3948 7 ай бұрын
You said it perfectly. Lower the damn prices.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
I think they're lowering some of the ticket prices and, as you say, it's better to have filled seats because empty seats take their toll on concession revenue.
@cliffbowls
@cliffbowls 7 ай бұрын
The jets aren’t going anywhere and the attendance is 100% hockey related, yes the economy is shit but I believe the primary reason for the attendance is 1. It’s early in the season and, 2. Chevy showed last year he isn’t committed to trying to win, jets were well inside the playoffs and when they started to slide he did nothing to try and address the teams real issues even though we have plenty of futures. Keeping Schmidt at his price and not trying to add a top 4 d man when there were plenty available and he had the draft capital/prospects available to make a move is a fireable offence in my opinion.
@p0d5
@p0d5 7 ай бұрын
It’ll be common around the league soon. Everything’s expensive rn, like a Big Mac meal is now $15. Going to a $200+ ticket game takes money away from giving your family a warm home and something to eat.
@aidonismorydz
@aidonismorydz 7 ай бұрын
It’s a Tuesday game, ticket and food prices, placement of arena and performance.
@thefinaldispatch
@thefinaldispatch 7 ай бұрын
Tbh after the pandemic, I don’t care much for the Jets or the NHL. I think there are many others out there that feel the same
@nunyabiznizz4778
@nunyabiznizz4778 7 ай бұрын
The Jets aren't going anywhere. Attendance will sort itself out but on top of that TNSE owns the rink, they make serious money off all the concerts and events that happen there. They are also owned by the guy who owns fucking Reuters my dudes, who also owns True North Group commercial real estate development which if I'm not mistaken has invested probably billions into the surrounding downtown area near the rink. Having that rink there and an NHL team there increases the value of the rest of their property.
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@nunyabiznizz4778
@nunyabiznizz4778 7 ай бұрын
K @@MrSupahLMFAO
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
And TNT, the home for American hockey, is headquartered in Atlanta, and the pregame, intermission, and post-game is aired from Atlanta. There's no legitimate reason to keep a team playing in a metro that doesn't even have a million people. Atlanta has over 7 million in its CSA.
@nunyabiznizz4778
@nunyabiznizz4778 7 ай бұрын
Jesus christ the copium you guys are huffing. The jets were sold out for 10 years straight with an 8000 long waiting list for season tickets until COVID hit and the subsequent recession. Also, and again they are backed by the man who owns Reuters...They are going to be fine, and they are definitely still making money. Chipman has also said there's no chance they're selling them. Atlanta thrashers were probably the greatest failure of a franchise in NHL history @@willp.8120
@pyrowarhorse9738
@pyrowarhorse9738 7 ай бұрын
Attendance lows are because of the economy. Nobody has disposable income. I live in Winnipeg, fans love this team. They have to chose between feeding their family or scale back the luxuries. Easy choice. This is the government’s fault. That’s it. Improve the economy and people will be back.
@simonbernier9253
@simonbernier9253 7 ай бұрын
If they move a Canadian team because of the attendant, it would be a joke! Just look at Florida, Tamba or Carolina. I don't even need to talk about Arizona.
@TheHat--Man
@TheHat--Man 7 ай бұрын
We would love to have you in quebec
@guillaumevilleneuve5579
@guillaumevilleneuve5579 7 ай бұрын
Canadians are struggling right now with inflation so that combined with high ticket prices is probably the reason
@JEgkt
@JEgkt 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg is blue collar town. if you had lived here for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no jets game. Portage Place Mall i believe is still up for sale to this day. And i think we are losing people to other Canadian cities for better opportunities. And crime is not going attract people here. Its up with Surrey crimes per capita.
@BM_2002
@BM_2002 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg's downtown isn't the only one that has crime
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
Blame cars for your Downtown being dead. All the businesses moved to the suburbs with huge parking lots because they were subsidized to do so
@JEgkt
@JEgkt 7 ай бұрын
@@coastaku1954 I've driven through Regina and i like their downtown its spacious and have room for further growth. Winnipeg looks cramped downtown in comparison, sometimes you need to tear down buildings for future expansion and that could costs $$$ for tax payers.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
@@JEgkt Cramped? You mean denser and therefore more efficient
@JEgkt
@JEgkt 7 ай бұрын
@@coastaku1954 People that commute by cars doing casual errands it can be a nightmare finding street parking. Bicycle lanes pretty much took most of the spots in certain areas.
@NordiqueNHL
@NordiqueNHL 7 ай бұрын
I hope Atlanta or Quebec or a new city gets to experience NHL hockey but not at the expense of the Jets they're a great team with some proven stars and some great prospects. I think that the Jets are safe in Winnipeg i think the way to get butts in seats is to take a page out of the MLBs book and do a dollar hotdog night or a kids eat free night
@josephdell8056
@josephdell8056 7 ай бұрын
Quebec City is never getting a team. For many reasons.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg fans talked down to Atlanta when we lost our team and they capitalized. Well, perhaps we'll be getting them back and rebrand them the Thrashers. New Atlanta NHL ice hockey arena is set to begin construction next year.
@NordiqueNHL
@NordiqueNHL 7 ай бұрын
If Atlanta gets their team do you think it will be the Thrashers?@@willp.8120
@josephdell8056
@josephdell8056 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 na , Atlanta isn't getting a team back. Be serious. Ps I didn't talk to Thrasher fans. Don't lump us all together.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@josephdell8056 Atlanta is a metro area of 6.3 million people, about eight times larger than Winnipeg by population, and Atlanta's developed landmass is the fourth largest in the world at nearly twenty times the size of Winnipeg. Yes, Atlanta is coming back. It's pretty much a set deal. The arena begins construction next year. There is an interested owner, backing by county and city officials, and NHL insiders have leaked it out that Atlanta and Houston are getting the next two teams. I didn't say all did that, but back in 2011, I saw video of fans in the streets in Winnipeg saying terrible things about Atlanta, and Winnipegers on message boards talking trash about the city of Atlanta.
@keithhannah8695
@keithhannah8695 7 ай бұрын
When it's cheaper to drive to Detroit, catch a cheap flight to Dallas to watch a Leaf game and still payless than going to the Scotiabank Area. You know, something's wrong with the ticket prices here in Canada
@pilbomags488
@pilbomags488 7 ай бұрын
Bettman went to the end of the world to keep Arizona in the league but there's no way he'll do that for a Canadian team.
@garybettmanjr.6889
@garybettmanjr.6889 7 ай бұрын
Not true. When the senators were being sold he said the senators are not moving and will not move
@jaylytical2271
@jaylytical2271 7 ай бұрын
@@garybettmanjr.6889bettman despises Winnipeg though, he’d love a chance to be able to get rid of the jets and move them to some US city that won’t give a shit about the team
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash 7 ай бұрын
He did also make sure the Oilers stayed in Edmonton, which I'll give him credit for. But if the Jets are in trouble, I have a bad feeling he'll do whatever it takes to grease the skids for their next (and probably last) relocation too! Funny how he's also moved Heaven and Earth in order to keep the hapless Coyotes in Arizona, but won't let Quebec City rightfully get their NHL team back at last though!
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
He didn't do it for the Thrashers, either, an American team.
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash 3 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 Which was a very huge shock I'll admit!
@braydencampbell6344
@braydencampbell6344 7 ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with the team, it’s the state of Canadas economics, it’s in a horrible place right now. Way too expensive to live.
@KCN95
@KCN95 7 ай бұрын
Being a Winnipeg player rn must suck, must be so discouraging.
@BM_2002
@BM_2002 7 ай бұрын
Funny, I went to Ticketmaster for a Jets game and most of the ones I tried to get said "No ticket available". So I don't think they're losing money. Also doesn't help that the Blue Bombers have been the best team in the CFL since 2019 and when the economy is crap.
@rapideye85
@rapideye85 7 ай бұрын
Jets fans get the loudest. They should never leave Winnipeg, just lower the tickets by $20 so ppl can buy concessions
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
it's only loud because the stadium is small lol. The smaller the stadium, the louder it is. Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
NHL Tickets should cost no more than $100, and that's for the absolute best seats
@CalgaryDynastar
@CalgaryDynastar 6 ай бұрын
Ticket prices post Covid, people with much less disposable income due to costs of living and such all make the luxury of going to a hockey game much less realistic for average Canadians. Despite how die hard many jets fans are, if average people can’t afford to goto the games then you don’t fill the seats 🤷🏼‍♂️
@danielryan8089
@danielryan8089 7 ай бұрын
We’ll have your AHL squad down here in SATX. Might have to rename the moose name, but we would gladly help out!!
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
When are you good folks in San Antone going to get an NFL team?!
@jasonmartinez5116
@jasonmartinez5116 7 ай бұрын
@@FischerFan When Jerry Jones dies likely.
@quelchx
@quelchx 7 ай бұрын
I think it's not hockey related. Living in Canada these days is really expensive and people can't afford to pay big bucks on entertainment
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
The team sold out almost every home game until the pandemic hit. Post-pandemic inflation has hit the Jets harder than most teams. It's also important to remember that the Winnipeg market is over saturated. It has been the moment the NHL returned. It's worth nothing that Winnipeg's CFL team, the Blue Bombers, are leading their league in attendance for the second straight season. The team has been winning the Grey Cup or appearing in it. Bomber ticket prices also, just happen to be, 2-5 times cheaper than Jets tickets!
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 ай бұрын
I guess its hard for the Jets fans not to feel apathy toward the team, they already saw what the players left were capable to do with much better teammates and it wasn’t enough to get close to a cup, they see the writings on the wall when they slowly started losing quality players through the years. What is exciting about the good old same Jets patch 9.76 this season ? Perfetti, Iafallo and Villardi ? They do not feel Cup worthy or on the way to be building a cup worthy team. Also the economy sucks, all Jets related prices are thievery and most importantly the Blue Bombers are awesome, more viewers, a lot cheaper, about 30k fans per game, they are studs and actually win championships !
@LGR0910
@LGR0910 7 ай бұрын
And players keep coming back lol
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. That's why so many NHL players don't really want to play in Winnipeg unless they get traded there or if the Jets offer them a huge contract that they can't refuse. Obviously Blue Bombers are more fun. I mean, what other options do they really have to move to a different team? Go to the NFL? LOL
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 7 ай бұрын
And the apathy is exacerbated when you consider the GM. They've had the same GM since they came back and they have very little success to show for it. And Cheveldayoff is probably the last proactive GM in the league. He won't make the tough moves. He kept the core together far too long, trying to live off the memories of 2018. And he only traded Dubois because he requested the trade. Had he not requested one, Cheveldayoff wouldn't have made a move. The defense is still this team's achilles heel, and nothing has been done to improve that last few years. And with such a log jam, the younger blue liners can't break the line up. Guys like Declan Chisholm and Ville Heinola don't get chances. They lost a good defenseman in Johnny Kovacevic on waivers on last year because there was no room for him. Leon Gawanke was one of the best blue-liners in the AHL last year, finishing second in goals, and he never got a chance to play on the Jets. Thus, he chose to sign in Germany, so all that time and money spent on developing him is wasted. That's not how you treat your young players. You want to keep the team young, especially on the blue line.
@dannycarlow8204
@dannycarlow8204 7 ай бұрын
​@@MrSupahLMFAOYes Dad, you only had to tell us once, not 94 times. It's simply not that insightful to post that many times.
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 ай бұрын
I concur Kovacevic is playing solid hockey, sadly there is also a logjam for young defensemen in Montreal, unless Kovacevic takes Savard role next season and onwards, i fear he might be traded soon. I’m still confused by the choice of Lindstrom as a return for Petry when Barron, Norlinder and multiple other defensive prospects are close to ready and Wideman is also under contract.
@SRACHER
@SRACHER 7 ай бұрын
It's not just Winnipeg there are other Canadian markets where the percentage of fans showing up are worse than the jets. Also Mark Chipman just did an interview the other day and he stated that the low attendance isn't threatening the team at all.
@frankytanky5076
@frankytanky5076 7 ай бұрын
The flames will be here in a year or two if this continues.
@stefanbonat1628
@stefanbonat1628 7 ай бұрын
to finish your sentence: , because he is sure that the attendance is going to increase again. If it stays that low longterm he will have a different opinion about it.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
And yet Canadians tell us that they are the best hockey fans, yet Carolina and Tampa Bay, American Southern teams were two and three in attendance last year. I guess they are wrong about that.
@BoboMcBooboy
@BoboMcBooboy 7 ай бұрын
​@@willp.8120You can be the biggest hockey fan in the world, but if you have no money, you're watching at home, like I am. What'a dumb point to make.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@BoboMcBooboy Just like it was a dumb point to make about southern cities.
@MrCoryb77
@MrCoryb77 7 ай бұрын
The Jets 2.0 are in a completely different situation than the original Jets. Jets 2.0 have different revenues and True North owns most of downtown Winnipeg. When Canada gets a new PM things will get better for people incomes and attendance will rise again.
@Jay-mm1kw
@Jay-mm1kw 7 ай бұрын
A new PM won't change shit lmao
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@dcijluther4015
@dcijluther4015 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAOthis shows the population difference. There are more rich people in the bigger cities or tourists that would watch the games. Regular income people can’t afford to go to many Canuck games per year.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
Jagmeet Singh will help us
@nolankuffner3573
@nolankuffner3573 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg's population is 750k. GUARANTEED they have at least 3% of that making over 200k. And when a third of those people don't give a shit about hockey on an international level, it's not lack of finances. I sell high end men's wear, the population that can afford that on a regular basis (every 2-3 weeks) is probably 10-20% while our customers are probably half of that. And it's nothing to do with what they bring in. It's what they see as worthwhile. A rich farmer who never wears dress clothes, buying a 2000$ suit because his daughter is getting married. That's the type of person where dollar value doesn't reach him. And that's nothing on the owners or the quality of the game. He just puts value in other things. But for the percentage of people who do see that as value, what's getting in the way of them being supportive? I'd say their existing recreational habits. People that smoked weed before? Not a boundary. People that started smoking weed because it was legalized? It's absolute a stumbling block now. The biggest thing that a long season will endure is people who have either short attention spans (get invested early but don't persevere in hard times) or people that don't get invested until later on, and only if they're doing well. I call it a wait and see franchise, and American clubs like Nashville, Florida, Tampa, and the Sharks had to go through. The biggest issue is the Jets haven't been given credit for the few great seasons, instead focusing on immediate and sustained success. And again, I'd blame the Blue Bombers for creating that mindset in the fanbase. If you're not the best right away, we'll leave, and guarantee, this is your only shot kind of fans. And they WON'T be back, because their support isn't contingent on their rabid fandom but the Jets successes and failures.
@OvieSnips8
@OvieSnips8 7 ай бұрын
11,000? Thats still 6,000 more people than Arizona lol. This sucks but things are expensive. I've heard $43 a ticket which some may genuinely not be able to afford. And thats not including gas, pakring, food, ect.
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@tosclive
@tosclive 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO how many times are you going to spam the same comment? So many copy/paste on one video just to spam the same comment over and over and over and over again? Sounds like you have a real hate hard-on for Wpg.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg needs better transit then, it's sad that car ownership is such a burden on people
@FishermanClay8108
@FishermanClay8108 7 ай бұрын
We are too busy working and all the fans are up north
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn't blame you guys. All you do in Manitoba is work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. I know a lot of people who can't find jobs or afford to live in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto end up forcing themselves to move to Winnipeg because it's easier to find jobs there but also a place people don't want to go.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO Don't forget the insane housing prices. An average house in Winnipeg would cost over a million in either Toronto or Vancouver.
@threetimesorange
@threetimesorange 7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next return of the Jets - 3.0.
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO Hey you copied and pasted the same comment many times bro...
@tt128556
@tt128556 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO Hockey is and always will be a blue collar sport. Rich people go to musicals and other high brow events.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@tt128556 That was until Bettman and his band of New York lawyers infiltrated the NHL, subverted it, and sold it to corporate America.
@mugmoment
@mugmoment 7 ай бұрын
how is this a problem for the jets? look at some places in the USA, half the arena is empty and nobody panics. why is it that when a Canadian team struggles like the Americans, everyone loses their minds and talks about relocating?
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
The South is doing just fine. The South has risen. The South is the future of American entertainment, economic strength, etc.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 Only until the Mexicans invade for real and take over.
@jeffhembd9471
@jeffhembd9471 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg is a competitive, playoff bubble, team yet, they are drawing 3,000 less than a the SJ Sharks who no one should be interested in paying to watch. Setting aside the Coyotes, the Jets have the worst attendance in the league and it is not close and no team has worse attendance by % Capacity. Real problem.
@SlottedSteve
@SlottedSteve 7 ай бұрын
It's our economy, people are hurting right now because of the sharp rise of interest raises so they don't know if they can afford their mortgage upon renewal within the next 2-3 years. Economic uncertainty will only improve when interest rates stop rising, then the attendance will rebound.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget rising food prices among inflation itself.
@rossmacmillen763
@rossmacmillen763 7 ай бұрын
Tickets are too expensive.
@Tanis1kanan
@Tanis1kanan 7 ай бұрын
Covid played a big part in it with the mandatory vaccine requirements, it's also flu season so I feel like people are just out sick as well. Winnipeg us one of the most highly taxed provinces as well. And inflation has been no friend to the consumer.
@metalmarty3948
@metalmarty3948 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't buy that. Attendance is down in the league everywhere, not just Winnipeg.
@Tanis1kanan
@Tanis1kanan 7 ай бұрын
@metalmarty3948 right yeah this can be applied everywhere. Everyone needs to chill out.
@BigAlvideos101
@BigAlvideos101 7 ай бұрын
Finally- somebody else who realizes that the forced mandates were the #1 cause of the Jets attendance drop-off! Most people don't know that much!
@jimlewis1992
@jimlewis1992 7 ай бұрын
​@@metalmarty3948Except not. Blue Bombers sell out every game.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
So then why are the Bombers selling out four straight games and will lead the CFL in attendance for the second straight year? Why did the Sea Bears basketball team make such a splash? Could it be they offer more 'bang for the buck' than the Jets do?
@user-nw4ln6gr5v
@user-nw4ln6gr5v 7 ай бұрын
It's because the cost of living has nearly doubled the last 10 years, between new taxes, inflation, and our housing crisis.
@shawnerickstad6974
@shawnerickstad6974 7 ай бұрын
Winnipeg is too small a market and will be moving in few years. This is another reason Quebec will never get a NHL team again
@UncleRosie
@UncleRosie 7 ай бұрын
Economy is the problem. Small markets are first to suffer. Just wait until the big boys have empty seats cuz it’s coming. Winnipeg is the canary in the coal mine. There is no lack of interest, but a lack of leisure dollars.very passionate, knowledgeable and loyal fans.
@maskyprime
@maskyprime 7 ай бұрын
Wait…this is is about the Winnipeg jets? (I thought it was the jersey ones)
@classic.cameras
@classic.cameras 7 ай бұрын
I do not think the Jets help themselves by having the Manitoba Moose play in Winnipeg. Giving people the option to cheap out and watch "pro" AHL hockey for less will hurt your premium products bottom line. Also I have to say, as awesome as those jersey are, they are boring and its time the update their look. Hopefully next year with the jersey switch.
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
The Marlies being in Toronto doesn't hurt the Leafs, what's your point?
@XeroTheLegend
@XeroTheLegend 7 ай бұрын
​@@coastaku1954Toronto, the biggest city in Canada, and the biggest tourist city in Canada, AND the most HQs in Canada, can hold 2 NHL teams if they truly want to. Winnipeg isn't even 1 million in population and you want to compare TORONTO to WINNIPEG??
@chrismac5560
@chrismac5560 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. I live in Edmonton, if given the choice to go to an Oilers game and watch McDavid for a couple hundred bucks or go to the University of Alberta to watch Oiler alumni Matt Berlin and the Golden Bears for $23 I'm going to the university game every single time; not only that it's like 1/3 the price to park and beer is nearly half the price
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 7 ай бұрын
@@chrismac5560 Why is beer such a big deal to people? All of yall are just alcoholics, I haven't drank alcohol in over a month and I'm not missing it at all
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
The Winnipeg sports market is ridiculously over saturated. The Bombers and the new basketball team, the Sea Bears, led their respective, all-Canadian leagues in attendance. The Jets, Moose, Goldeyes and Valour FC are losing the battle for fans.
@jimmtl9736
@jimmtl9736 7 ай бұрын
Maybe if tickets weren't $400 each there would be more people going
@jeffhembd9471
@jeffhembd9471 7 ай бұрын
Tickets can be had for $67.
@jimmtl9736
@jimmtl9736 7 ай бұрын
@@jeffhembd9471 LOL where? In Florida and Arizona?
@nevinporier5932
@nevinporier5932 7 ай бұрын
Bro new team is the Mexico Jets
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
So where are your videos on attendance issues in Buffalo and San Jose?
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
And yet Atlanta was filling the building rather easily when we experienced winning. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoiTiKepgtSFpNU kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKS2dIuIj5xoftk
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 You again? You are to the Thrashers what Johnnie Cochran was to O.J. Simpson. You're obsessively defending a guilty party. In their eleven seasons in Atlanta, the Thrashers average attendance exceeded the capacity of Winnipeg's arena in ONLY FOUR of them! This shatters your notion and overemphasis on population. Since Atlanta has about the same population as Toronto, the Thrashers' attendance figures suggest a shortage of hockey fans compared to many other NHL markets. As for those few seasons when people actually did bother to show up, they still failed to generate a profit. Time and time again, I have challenged your half-truths about attendance. The numbers are based on tickets distributed. They do not account for actual gate revenue. Even in their inaugural season, and in the season in which they made their lone post-season appearance, how come the Thrashers couldn't make any money? Keep squealing, keep whining, keep bitching. Remember that Atlanta has the distinction of being the city where NHL franchises change planes on their way to Canada.
@michaelhiltz7846
@michaelhiltz7846 6 ай бұрын
Its dumb that people still care about the size of the arena in Winnipeg. Last year when New Jersey went on a 13 game heater half their seats were still empty. Arizona still struggles to sell out Mullet, I swear Mullet is only ever at 50% capacity, yet for some reason people still defend having a team in Arizona because "It's a bigger market". It's not really surprising that Jets attendance started this season low after the way their season ended last year and the comments from Bowness. The Jets will be fine, and people need to shut up about the size of Winnipeg's arena. There are some big arena's in the states that only ever really reach half capacity.
@user-dq4ik4kc2c
@user-dq4ik4kc2c 6 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest, they need to finish up the renovations to Canada Life Centre and expand the capacity to at least 17,900 people.
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash 3 ай бұрын
Well what good will that do if the Jets can't even sell out a barely 15,000 seat arena these days though?
@mathewlee5712
@mathewlee5712 6 ай бұрын
If the Jets attendance is a concern, then what about the Coyotes?
@alleneng
@alleneng 3 ай бұрын
its a concern cos the jets are one of the best teams in the league right now and cant even sell out
@eddiequinata7124
@eddiequinata7124 7 ай бұрын
San Diego Jets would be crazy
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
No more sun belt teams.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
@@FischerFan You sound insecure, like you view these cities, particularly Atlanta, as a threat to your team staying. I don't know who your team is, but I wouldn't doubt it is the Jets.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 I like the Jets, but nope, it is the MONTREAL CANADIENS!
@whateverpbk
@whateverpbk 7 ай бұрын
The market is, comparably too small, and there is no larger metro area. 12-13 000 isn't bad attendence given the circumstances.
@zqroh4277
@zqroh4277 7 ай бұрын
its too expensive
@codyharder571
@codyharder571 7 ай бұрын
Look I get it that it’s early, but the Oilers and the Flames are shutting the bed. We need to talk about them
@timbro1
@timbro1 7 ай бұрын
This video is a day late and a dollar short
@Clonechow
@Clonechow 7 ай бұрын
Only threat is Bettman who said when the Team arrived in 2011, "Winnipeg must sell out to survive" point blank to Sportsnet. Canada won't lose a team, TV/streaming rights prevent this, but I could see a meeting this off-season and talks with Canadian broadcasters about Quebec, who have 3k more seats and a not even 8 year old building (Jets arena is nearly 20 years old now) legitimately having a chance to be the relocation. Chipman doesn't make money from the Jets, at minimum they break even I could see the pressure from league and wallet doing it in
@romaliop
@romaliop 7 ай бұрын
Why move into another small Canadian market with the exact same problems in the horizon after the initial hype dies down?
@scottjohnson3971
@scottjohnson3971 7 ай бұрын
Crack out the foil! We’re making hats… sounds like you addressed the problem, it’s the attendance and yes, it gets a greater spotlight because they are a northern market. Particularly pathetic for a fan base that actually knows the agony of losing their team and being fortunate enough to get it back… oh and no need to talk about on ice success impacting attendance, I’m a leafs fan.. that shit don’t fly here
@Clonechow
@Clonechow 7 ай бұрын
​​@@romaliop for now the only reason would be Sportsnet and TSN willing to give a big ol' cheque for the TV/Streaming rights. Less Canadian teams, less money. And the only reason Bettman has to reluctantly agree to it is the next Negotiation is in 2026 and ESPN wants out after, in they're eyes, regrettable purchase.
@trentreimer130
@trentreimer130 7 ай бұрын
@@scottjohnson3971 Good on Toronto fans for supporting the team win or lose. However, Leafs games draw on a local fan base 8x larger than the Jets. Not to mention a wealthier fan base, which is a real factor in a have-not province when cost of living and ticket prices go up at the same time. If 88,000 people were trying to get tickets to Jets games we wouldn't be having this discussion.
@scottjohnson3971
@scottjohnson3971 7 ай бұрын
@@trentreimer130 it’s all relative.. we have a larger market and a larger barn, your market is smaller and you have one one of the smallest rinks in the game.. we have a more affluent fan base, our tickets are astronomical.. jets ticket prices are in the bottom half of the league. It’s disingenuous to bring up “tough times”. The economy was hardly any better last year and you sold out playoff games.
@johnzagar6177
@johnzagar6177 7 ай бұрын
As an Oilers fan i see first hand what a bad start and underperfomimg team looks like. How can anyone in Winnipeg use a bad team as an excuse not to show up to Jets games? The Jets are off to a good start
@josephdell8056
@josephdell8056 7 ай бұрын
There are many reasons.
@jesdavetravel8592
@jesdavetravel8592 7 ай бұрын
Expensive tickets, expensive food, expensive drinks. A fun night out costs a couple hundred bucks.
@FischerFan
@FischerFan 7 ай бұрын
A family of four is looking at what, about a thousand dollars?
@jesdavetravel8592
@jesdavetravel8592 7 ай бұрын
@@FischerFan depends on where you sit, if you eat or have drinks.
@michaelpanacheese604
@michaelpanacheese604 7 ай бұрын
Wpg needs bigger and a better arena. The seats are way to small also have dicount nights beers are 8$ or something. I only go to cheer on the other teams. Lol
@RJKYEG
@RJKYEG 6 ай бұрын
What would get you to go to more NHL games?
@07foxmulder
@07foxmulder 7 ай бұрын
Been saying it for years. Winnipeg and Ottawa are lousy markets with mediocre fans. Move the teams to Hartford and Milwaukee.
@calebkent6706
@calebkent6706 7 ай бұрын
Jets arent leaving Winnipeg is their home forever……theyll figure something out its probably just a temporary slump in attendance. The fans would riot if the nhl moved/folded the jets for a 2nd time. Despite being one of the smallest canadien markets If they move them then thats bad for business. Where are they gonna go anyway…….huh where would they they move to, Quebec city, hartford, san francisco(hopefully not) back to Atlanta?? Maybe houston.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
Atlanta is a better choice than Houston or any of these other cities. It's like saying Seattle is not a good basketball city because of them losing the Sonics on account of ownership. It's just a dumb thought process. The idea that Atlanta is a bad idea is based on nothing more than the previous two owners having issues, nothing to do with attendance.
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 7 ай бұрын
The ticket prices need to be lowered
@jackhartmann1084
@jackhartmann1084 7 ай бұрын
The Canadian economy will struggle very soon with a weakening Canadian Dollar & perhaps a housing crash. Canada's housing market did not suffer in 2008 as much as the US & others.. That collapse cannot be avoided.
@willp.8120
@willp.8120 7 ай бұрын
Atlanta, Houston, Salt Lake City, San Diego can pick up Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Ottawa, leaving Canada with three teams.
@cloudnine7578
@cloudnine7578 7 ай бұрын
As someone who worked in retail for many, many years I can tell you this: the people of Manitoba (Winnipeg) are cheap as hell. Like unimaginably cheap. People would literally spend an insane amount of time grinding me down for 5 or 10 dollars, or complaining over a place that has a similar item for $2 less, and why are my prices so much higher? I’m serious, it was so soul crushing having every single person through the door complain about having to spend money. Good luck to the NHL.
@isabellshoff8225
@isabellshoff8225 7 ай бұрын
Get lower ticket prices.
@hockeys_cool27
@hockeys_cool27 7 ай бұрын
hopefuly they will stay, I cant imagine a NHL with out the jets
@jradfx
@jradfx 7 ай бұрын
Make a vid on the penguins after this lose horrendously again tonight
@markjohnston7285
@markjohnston7285 7 ай бұрын
Part-owner David Thompson is
@ryananderson5202
@ryananderson5202 7 ай бұрын
FIRE CHEVY!
@michaelfortunato3117
@michaelfortunato3117 7 ай бұрын
Who is going to be the captain of the NEW MEXICO JETS in 2033 for their home opener?
@Pete-th9oq
@Pete-th9oq 3 ай бұрын
The Jets are a consistent above average team lately. But not good enough to contend for the the CUP. No winner. No seat fillers. You can't win em all BUT can you win once at least?
@YEGLIVEMETAL
@YEGLIVEMETAL 7 ай бұрын
Hockey isn’t an affordable sport to see live in Canada.
@shawncordeiro5078
@shawncordeiro5078 7 ай бұрын
canucks vs sharks nov 2nd it was 1/4 full but sharks were saying 10,000 which is b.s sharks tryin to hide it
@briangura7818
@briangura7818 2 ай бұрын
Getting the jets back was easy because it had a great ownership group and the NHL didn’t lift a finger to help Atlanta.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 7 ай бұрын
You've just gotta love how everyone is so willing to immediately pull out a list of reasons for why the attendance is so low when it's a northern market, yet if a southern market ever has the same issue for all the exact same reasons as the northern market, everyone will immediately say that they don't care about hockey and need to move to Quebec. Superiority complex at its finest.
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 ай бұрын
Quebec french sport medias are speaking ad nauseum about Winnipeg, Buffalo and Phoenix problems, the irony of it all is that Quebec city will likely not get its team back soon because unlike the potential new markets they still care and are still very actively buying/consuming NHL products, they’ll never be considered new clients, unlike Salt lake city, Houston, Kansas city or even Atlanta, oh yes they get priority because they stopped caring about the Thrashers, stopped buying NHL products and are a much bigger market. If anything the Jets having problems is horrible news for a Quebec city team project, because of the numerous similarities between the two in almost all aspects.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 7 ай бұрын
I mean a lot of Southern markets regularly see higher turnout at high school football than NHL games, whereas the Jets are the largest sports draw in Winnipeg, by a mile, but sure.... those people don't have any sort of valid argument....
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 ай бұрын
#2
@MrSupahLMFAO
@MrSupahLMFAO 7 ай бұрын
Manitoba ranks 9th in highest average individual income but ranks 2nd in the country in highest for average household income. This shouldn't be an excuse for incomes. The Jets have the ranked 9th cheapest ticket in the NHL. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal have way higher ticket pricings yet their stadium is usually full. It just shows that Winnipeg fans are fake and don't wanna show up anymore, even if their team is bad. When the Canucks, Leafs, and Habs were worst than the Jets, their stadium were always still pretty full. But I can't really complain since Winnipeg people are poor and can't find jobs or afford in big cities like Vancouver or Toronto. I've been to Winnipeg before. There's nothing to do there other than work, go home, watch some sports, then sleep. Winnipeg is blue collar town. If you had lived there for over 20 years, Downtown is pretty much dead if there is no sports game. No athletes would want to live in Winnipeg there's nothing to do or having to live extremely cold in the winter and extremely hot in the summer. Players only play there if they are forced to be traded to Winnipeg or Winnipeg offers them a huge contract they can't refuse. That's why you see many Manitoba born athletes always ending up moving out of the province. Even when they retire, they don't want to come back to the hell hole of the Winnipeg.
@GuessHowSid
@GuessHowSid 7 ай бұрын
@@MrSupahLMFAO Those stats are comically false. Also I love “Winnipeg has the second highest household income in Canada (???)” immediately followed by Winnipegers are poor. Did you forget your point before even finishing typing??
@dennisjordan4952
@dennisjordan4952 6 ай бұрын
28 dollars for upper bowl seats and they can't sell out
@thomasm4388
@thomasm4388 7 ай бұрын
Time to move the team to Idaho. They will do much better than.
@jasonmartinez5116
@jasonmartinez5116 7 ай бұрын
Idaho doesn't have a big enough arena so they would need to build one
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