This is the BEST Overstable Midrange

[@zeta8512]

Love the content, and I agree with the outcome. You guys had some really good discs in the bracket, and some of them have different uses. I bag a deflector for utility meat-hook shots and a Kaxe-z for straight shots into a lighter headwind. Might be a little rough for Dylan's forehand, but I would love to see you guys do the same shoot-out for understable mids. Some discs like the Kasta Svea, Discraft Comet/Meteror, Lat64 Fuse, and Discmania Neo Origin come to mind. Thanks for the video!

[@pastasky1]

Verdict is so good, just lost mine yesterday and got a Malta today. Love the video, I definitely recognize Johnson St in some of those videos

[@rowan1043]

I absolutely love watching these videos! It won't be long until 10x more people start watching these either. Keep up the awesome work guys!

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks Rowan! That's means a ton! Really appreciate the support!

[@JoshJackson13]

I've been baggin the pyro for 3 months now and it just keeps getting better. It's flat beautiful forehands perfect backhands good on anhyzer has some glide but not to much like my meteor but i don't want it to glide that much. There is nothing I would change with the pyro. That kaxe seems like a fairway to me like a stable crave

[@treaustin1]

This is super solid disc golf content. I want more of this style of video

[@colbeybaker]

Great channel! This is my go to disc golf content. Keep it up fellas

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

THanks CJ! Appreciate you my man!

[@andreasprestby8688]

Dig the series! But in all honestly I don't think the Kaxe, especially the Kaxe Z, belongs in the OVERstable mid-range category.

[@DanMars27]

The Kaxe does, for sure. The Kaxe Z is debatable. If you keep the disc speed under 50 mph and/or add some extra spin, the Kaxe Z can fly just like a glidey Roc3. But, it can also open up and fly like an FD.

[@Yakubix]

Brand-new Kaxe is really overstable. And there isn't that much difference between Kaxe and Kaxe Z in my opinion

[@Tampa210]

Awesome video. Wish you guys would have thrown a legacy recluse. I bag a pyro but my buddy just gave me a recluse and now i have overlap because i cant seem to take either out of my bag both amazing discs

[@bueffi6587]

These videos are entertaining and super informative, thanks for the content!

[@DanMars27]

The Kaxe and Kaxe Z are two different discs. The Kaxe is my favorite overstable mid: it flies like a Roc3 but with a little more speed, stability, and an awesome attacking fade. Your description of the Kaxe Z is spot on. It’s uniquely easy to flip out of the hand but then quickly stable and able to hold a line and glide, then finish reliably (but somewhat softly) overstable. I bag both. Kaxe Z is more versatile and fun, but the Kaxe is my money disc when I just need to nail a classic over-stable midrange hyzer shot. Oh, and K1 is fantastic, but I prefer K3 for the Kaxe.

[@alesmasarik4578]

yes, i thought i am alone who noticed that huge mistake. But for example at time 4:10 there is written KAXE.

[@ColonelMustard]

Today at Sawmills I was throwing my EMAC Truth and a friend's Buzz. I love each of them and have more practice with the Truth obviously. I feel I can get more distance from the Buzz as it goes straight but the early fade of the truth is so safe. Great video again. I am loving what you guys are doing.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks Colonel Mustard! I can relate to that. Distance doesn't equal trust and trust is the most important characteristic with a disc in my opinion!

[@musicanddiscgolf]

Check out the Middy from Lone Star Disc!! Very Overstable but still has great glide!

[@nursingchef]

Your channel is so relatable and entertaining. Great content. Going to be in wilmington NC for Thanksgiving. Heard there's a brewery with a 9 hole course!

[@jorge5989]

I carry both the kaxe z and kaxe in k1. Kaxe is my favorite of the two but j love them both

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

We had a Kaxe in soft K1 plastic and it was flipper than the Kaxe Z. I really want to try the Kaxe in just K1 plastic and compare. Both were such great discs!

[@dyvel]

I would love to have an alternative conclusion in addition to this result. After learning all that you've learned during this comparison - Which two mid-ranges would either person recommend and for what reason?

[@CorwinDG]

Great idea for these videos but criteria of overstable mid changed so much it was a bit confusing. Love you guys!

[@DeciXmus]

I hope in the future you guys bring new challengers on to take out the Champion. I just got the 'Mutant' by Discmania and I think it beats your choice from the video. Love the content!

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks J4son! That's a really great suggestion! Appreciate you!

[@albertlongoria4824]

Mutant is gross, it’s not the best meathook mid range, it’s the best overall.

[@fugl4403]

Love this type of video! Thank you so much!

[@mitchellphillips4691]

This was a fun series as I’ve been looking for a straight to stable mid and every time I’ve picked up the kaxe z I loved the feel of it. I’ll probably end up buying that. I believe it’s suits my home course a little better. I’ll consider the Malta for more overstable stuff tho!

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Let us know how you end up liking it! I sense aces in your future!

[@joshmcallister4469]

If yall would have used the kaxe and not the kaxe z....kaxe would have won. Yall Use the understable version of the Kaxe. Z is the understable version of their discs, X is the overstable version. Although with the kaxe all you have is the Z and the regular plastics. Good job though.

[@patrickflanigan951]

When talking about the kaxe I would think after a few tree hits, the flip up would turn into turnover pretty quickly. From the get go it was borderline OS. To me that is not dependable so I would have placed in 4th after Malta verdict and pyro

[@alesmasarik4578]

But they showed in video disc Kaxe z, not disc Kaxe. And thats big mistake, because they are completely different molds. Kaxe z is more understable and Kaxe is great overstable midrange. And btw at the time 4:10 you can see so there is written Kaxe, but 10 seconds after is they hold Kaxe z.

[@danman26000]

Kaxe Z is basically a fairway.. The distinct sharpness of the rim is far greater than any of the other mids. You’re getting more glide and it’s going further than all other mids.. it’s kind of obvious that it’s a fairway. I can call a duck a goose but it’s never going to be a goose 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@andreasprestby8688]

Agreed. It doesnt really belong in this category.

[@JoshJackson13]

Agree the pyro glow rock 3 and Malta are way better of their competitors

[@alme6743]

Maybe you explained this and i missed it in a previous video, but why does your malta say luna on it??

[@HammerFitness1]

Also, did they use comparable weighted discs? If you have one of these offbrand disks that way much less, of course they will fly further. Hoping all of the weight averaged out to be the same

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Hi Anthony, It's a good question. We tried to use as similar of weights as possible. The discs were between 166g and 175g. Thanks!

[@brown2357]

I've got a NBA JAM (BigZ) malta and I love it. It has a shot and when I put it out there it does exactly the same thing every time. That's what I like most TBH... it's the only 100% consistent disc in my bag.

[@benschikker833]

Just brought a Malta an hour ago. Happy that it did well here.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

That's awesome! You'll have to let us know how you like it!

[@SZbooyaka]

Hmmm wondering how the Dynamic Discs Justice stacks up in terms of usability vs. utility midrange.

[@kevinwood3131]

This was such a good series. Keep up the good work guys.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks Kevin! Really appreciate the positive feedback!

[@xposition2001]

I agree with the conclusion. I bag the Malta. I carry the ESP and Big Z. They are both reliable and consistent overstable midranges. The Big Z Malta has a flatter top, at least the one I got does. Great disc, feels great and flies great!

[@petersmith5039]

Nice job on the shootout. Malta is my go-to already. Just ordered 2 Kaxe's.

[@YoungOneJim]

Old video I know, but the Kaxe and Kaxe z really arent in that "overstable" mid area, great stright longrange mids that dont turn super easy, but not super os like a pyro, caiman, malta etc etc

[@1GreatLake]

This was much more entertaining for me than it should have been aha Ordered a caiman and a malta

[@dgalolwowpoero1433]

Thanks guys. Blast to watch!

[@robertrohwer6965]

Fantastic content... well done! It's the glow Roc3 for me that fills the overstable mid slot in my bag. Perfect for the pushing--rainbow hyzers to the ground. You guys have got me curious about the Malta and the Kastaplast Z, however....

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Innova's glow plastic is another one of those plastics like the K1 that is head and shoulders above other plastics in my opinion. I'd love to try the Roc3 in that plastic. If you end up trying the malta or Kaxe Z, let us know how you like it! Cheers Robert!

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Which disc would have won your bracket?!

[@rowan1043]

Innova Lion all day everyday. That is by far one of the most underrated midranges on the market and people should use that for their midrange instead of the Roc 3. The Lion is much more of a friendly midrange as it has 1 less fade than the Roc3 so you get a very consistent flight 100% of the time.

[@toddkauk6099]

EMac Truth obvs

[@jeffreygoodspeed6680]

Lucid X Verdict

[@hollawk]

K1 Kaxe

[@stephenchalmers71]

For all around versatility, the Roc3. For extreme overstability, I really like the Deflector, which I just discovered recently. I definitely would have included the Gator3 instead of the Gator, though, and that disc scores very high with me as well. I probably throw my Joel Freeman Gator3 more than any other mid these days.

[@Mr.SpocksBrain]

And again, great content! My favorite overstable mid is a BUZZZ OS (Z plastic). It is basically a MALTA without the beard.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Really wanted to include a Buzzz OS but could not find one in time for this series. We'll try to get our hands on one soon and compare.

[@justwondering1926]

Malta has a smaller diameter than most mids 21.3 vs Buzzz OS 21.7 Malta has a putter diameter

[@Mr.SpocksBrain]

@@justwondering1926 they both fly exactly the same. And yes, they feel different from each other. If you prefer a small diameter disc with a beard, take the Malta, if you used to a normal Buzzz, take the OS.

[@nofightsnecessary]

They may fly similar, but the molds are extremely different

[@Mr.SpocksBrain]

@@nofightsnecessary true

[@jakec5550]

Really liked this series. And, as it happens, I was looking for an overstable mid for when my Emac truth breaks in a bit more. (Or if my noodle arm gets "better").

[@OmegaXIIV]

Okay just my 2 cents…… I loved the videos in this series but I jumped into the 2nd and 3rd one. I need to finish the first one. Cost and availability shouldn’t of even been considered but that’s just me since you can go on countless websites and find these discs. If anything the colors you’ll find will be the only issue. I personally bag a Malta but loved my Roc3 when I bagged that….. where was the Buzzz OS? It’s an overstable version of the most sold disc ever? Again I loved this series and will sub now that I went on a rant lol.

[@IamTBUCK]

I wish the Discmania Method would have been included in this competition. I'm sure it is too new to have seeded in the list, but I think it would have done quite well.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

We really want to check out all of the Discmania mids in a future video since we couldn't include the Method, Mutant and MD3.

[@kauisurfer13]

I wonder your match up preference between Kaxe and KaxeZ. I enjoy KaxeZ as well for straight smooth gliding shots with reliable medium fade at the end. Also considering that these discs are engineered in Sweden the flight numbers reflect that altitude. Thus said here in the Midwest they fly more stable so far for me more than the numbers suggest which I like. Great discs overall. Now to try out your winner Malta!!

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

That's a tough one to answer because we only had access to a Kaxe Z in K1 plastic and a Kaxe in K1 Soft plastic. The Kaxe, which is supposed to be more overstable turned out to way flipper than the Kaxe Z. We think it was due to the plastic type. Based on our experience, between the two, you can't go wrong with the Kaxe Z. That thing is amazing! Let us know how you like the Malta!

[@bmsonic7468]

Weird question: Do you guys use Smash sound effects? I swear I heard the meteor smash sound and some characters' sound quips in this vid. Just curious, I love Smash Bros so I could hear them from anywhere xD

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

we do! First person to notice haha

[@gfunktuba1]

Love this series! I think availability and price should be major factors in these ratings. It’s not a great disc if you can’t get it imho.

[@AlexanderSzymanski]

I'm really happy that the kaxe z made it as far as it did. Though I'd rather it have been just a kaxe rather than a z as the standard is more over stable. I was wrong on a previous post. The rpm Kotuku would have been perfect for this list. Not so much the kea. Not enough glide

[@hughbonus2227]

My kaxe is $$. These turds keep sportin discraft base plastic for $20 for one throw b4 the disc is damaged. It's such a no brainer i wonder who these guys are really sponsored by

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

These turds are unsponsored

[@hughbonus2227]

@@DeepRootsDiscGolf well that unsponsored status might not be for long if u keep giving discraft the trophy... I hope to see that K1 Katasplast Svea take the trophy for the best US midrange. If you liked the Kaxe then you're probably gonna dig the svea. What will be interesting is to see how Dylan likes throwing it forehand. Turds 😆 u gotta know i was just talkin 💩 yall seem like good people

[@texbowie826]

Was it me or did you show a Luna????

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

It was a malta that was dyed to say Luna haha

[@bengrant6478]

I bag and love the Malta myself, great disc! Although the turn of 1 is totally wrong, should be 0

[@albertlongoria4824]

Kaxe Z is a stable Crave, shouldn’t have even been in the bracket in my opinion. I agree on the winning disc, my Proto ESP Malta is great. There is a disc though that is emerging as a better suitor currently, it’s the Lone Star Middy.

[@rillehogberg7060]

im so confused . why wasnt the md3 in any of the videos?

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Hi Rille, While we really wanted to include an MD3 for this series, we were not able to get our hands on one for a reasonable price. To address the questions around the MD3 we included a note detailing the above in each of the video descriptions for this series. Thanks!

[@rillehogberg7060]

@@DeepRootsDiscGolf Ahh i see maybe you test it once its available again! Great vid btw

[@joakimbackryd7752]

So... it sounds like i need to go to my local store and buy myself a Kaxe Z, they have an entire room with discs from Kastaplast, i would guess there are 250-300 discs in there ... Availability 5*... oh, did i mention i live in Sweden :D

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

You definitely should! Really jealous you have such great access to all of the Kastaplast line!

[@garyblackwell4887]

It would be good to throw these in a headwind to see what they do too.

[@michaelflorey7733]

Missing the Drone. By far one of the best most consistent over stable mids

[@kariengstrom3544]

Nice. A disc that isn't an overstable midrange wins the "best overstable midrange disc" race 😁

[@wingslikeairplanesTV]

Exactly.

[@alesmasarik4578]

Do you understand difference between KAXE and KAXE Z? They are completely different molds. Kaxe is more stable (6 4 0 3) than Kaxe z (6 5 0 2). At time 4:10 , under disc Pyro, i can see Kaxe, but after 10 seconds you holds Kaxe Z. And that is huge mistake, because Kaxe is great overstable midrange, but Kaxe z isnt overstable. Its stable, maybe very slightly overstable, but not overstable as Kaxe. Why you should pick Kaxe z to this video when you can pick Kaxe? So that final fight isnt fair.

[@clawshooter5867]

The DGA quake would have won this, and I'm an innova guy. The quake has totally changed my game.

[@tater128]

This is a great video, but you def chose the wrong plastic for the kasta. A k3 Kaxe, not a kaxe z is way more beefy and is truly an over stable midrange driver

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks TATER! Where possible we tried to use as comparable of plastics as possible, but when we didn't have other plastic choices available we erred on the side of still having the mold represented in the bracket vs. keeping it out due to the plastic.

[@mcbriggs23]

Dylan's forehand is so wobbly and off axis. There's a reason he can't throw most of these overstable mids

[@gasstationsushi1999]

Y’all should review the Løft Hydrogen

[@Monty.Tommy.P]

Must not have had a first flight Dga quake.

[@jeffreygoodspeed6680]

Not an easy disc to come by these days

[@clipnclap4256]

This list isn't complete without the Quake

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Nope, we didn't get our hands on a Quake unfortunately. We'll have to check it out in a future video! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Ginger7322]

The pursuit and recluse are the two best overstable mids on the market and they aren’t on here…

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Thanks Cooper we'll have to try them out in the future

[@Ballovirta]

Kaxe z is theyr least overstable 6 5 0 2. K1 kaxe has 6 5 0 3

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

The Kaxe we had was in the k1 soft plastic and we found that it turned over more than than the Kaxe Z in the k1 plastic. As a result, we decided to use the Kaxe Z to give Kastaplast the best overstable representation.

[@Ballovirta]

@@DeepRootsDiscGolf cool. Thanks for explaining. I loved this kind of videos. Keep up the good work. You are amazing

[@JoshJackson13]

you both liked the pyro better but yall let the haters win by pickin the kaxe everything yall said the pyro was better

[@dyvel]

Also any kind of competition like this should have a lucky loser part. The verdict would obviously place high..

[@HammerFitness1]

Where is the Buzzz?

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

The Buzzz might show up in a future one of these brackets (if we decide to do a best overall midrange), but we didn't include it in this bracket because it isn't classified as an overstable midrange.

[@NathanPrintz]

@@DeepRootsDiscGolf would buzzz os be classified as overstable?

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

The Buzzz OS for sure would. We couldn't get our hands on one in time for this video though

[@HammerFitness1]

Thanks for the reply! Love the videos

[@cjt1982]

Mint Discs Bobcat = money

[@RollTideJD]

The verdict got shafted

[@OkieTradez]

do to disc golf store buying many mids over stable well hoped they were and in the end Caiman won can put on anny in headwind will not turn and burn WINNER

[@hollawk]

The Perfect Putter - Luna Best Overstable Midrange - Malta I think Dylan and Eric are afraid of Nathan 😂

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

Just wait til we do a "Best Deep Roots Wrestler" series.

[@tysonsteele2357]

Should’ve named this serious “looking for a stable disc”

[@tysonsteele2357]

Overstable you want to fight hard out of an anhyzer angle, you want it to cut right hard.

[@JoshJackson13]

Malta and pyro should have been the finalists you compared the kaxe to a zombie which is a understable fairway

[@Hobbbuddy]

Kaxe is a 6 speed fairway

[@DrewFerrigno]

So Pyro was the actual winner basically lol

[@ChrillerK]

There is no real reason to watch these videos from you, since Discraft is allways the winner...

[@jthrift1]

The KAXE Z isn’t the overstable one. The KaXe should have been in this video. Lmao.

[@DeepRootsDiscGolf]

We had a Kaxe in soft K1 plastic that flipped over everytime you threw it so we went with the Kaxe Z instead.

[@jthrift1]

@@DeepRootsDiscGolf hard to find regular k1 for that mold.

[@ChadSolberg]

HARP YO

[@willwinstead7933]

Every opinion you guys have is biased