This Is the End of the Silicon Chip, Here’s What’s Next

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@guybonberry5252
@guybonberry5252 6 жыл бұрын
I gave up studying computers ages ago because teachers could never explain how code and transitors worked. Your short video would have solved my dilemma and briefly enabled be to understand the science behind computers. Thank you for educating an ol' man.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 5 жыл бұрын
transistors work is easy to understand. Theyre used to make Logic gates, such as If input 1 is on, then turn output 1 off. and if you put these logic gates together, you could make a small calculator. The actual calculator part i dont understand, but i understand how transistors make up logic gates, since you can search up the schematics for certain not gates
@kamtroy2527
@kamtroy2527 2 жыл бұрын
If no one could explain it to you than you should have just read a book on it.
@vivekchauhan4053
@vivekchauhan4053 Жыл бұрын
@@kamtroy2527 exactly!!
@Cryptonat
@Cryptonat 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they only made this video for advertising. They didn't really share much information. I feel like my time was wasted.
@typingcat
@typingcat 6 жыл бұрын
The only useful data was light computing and they did not even tell much about it. Even I knew about it more than this video explained.
@ciraxa
@ciraxa 6 жыл бұрын
I didn´t watch it and came straight to the comments.
@sure5291
@sure5291 6 жыл бұрын
exactly, at the end you learned nothing or you gained nothing.
@ma2i485
@ma2i485 6 жыл бұрын
how exciting
@davemaverick8438
@davemaverick8438 5 жыл бұрын
as he stated in the end that one of the best uses of technology, as his example for amusement, is watching cat videos, while thanking nerds, you cant be more basic than that, so detailed info is secondary here
@Nico1a5
@Nico1a5 6 жыл бұрын
Progress got stuck for years until intel got a bit of competition
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
Well
@doctor99267
@doctor99267 6 жыл бұрын
John Kaboly Earth is flat flat.
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
doctor99268 stop making fun of my stutter
@ElTokeMaestro
@ElTokeMaestro 6 жыл бұрын
Compatition is what makes progress
@grrr1351
@grrr1351 6 жыл бұрын
dAMD right!
@stevensteven4863
@stevensteven4863 4 жыл бұрын
I am from the future being specific 2021 iPhone is only changing the case :-)
@padanmuke8109
@padanmuke8109 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@thefirstsin
@thefirstsin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the year 2021 6/3/21 and 2nm is 4 years away and next year is Intel and amd's 3nm chip release.
@zen608
@zen608 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefirstsin I'm from the future and Apple is spending billions of dollars trying to break the 1nm barrier O_O I'm very excited
@marcog832
@marcog832 3 жыл бұрын
All of you are now from the past
@beastntenn
@beastntenn 3 жыл бұрын
Top tier comment
@Master_Therion
@Master_Therion 6 жыл бұрын
I asked this very question to my computer scientist friend, José. "After silicon chips get too small will we need to use a different element, if so which one?" He replied, "Si."
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 6 жыл бұрын
That is the one we already use!
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
Earth is flat flat
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
Hades Subordinate Function to spread the truth
@iRxyanDestinygtaandmoreL
@iRxyanDestinygtaandmoreL 6 жыл бұрын
Master Therion im done, now i will be disappointed if i dont see your comment top on EVERY SINGLE SCIENCE VIDE EVER!
@doctor99267
@doctor99267 6 жыл бұрын
Master Therion i don't get it.
@brosch91
@brosch91 6 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see what we do next when we hit the supposed chip shrinkage limit. Maybe then the computing industry can finally focus on optimization instead of chip shrinking. I'm sure current (and even older hardware) could be a lot more capable if optimization was a high priority. I feel our current and maybe even older hardware rarely realizes their full potential because of the lack of proper coding optimizations.
@MetroidChild
@MetroidChild 6 жыл бұрын
We've already abandoned typical transistors back around 2010, the switch was to FinFET which has a larger gate area for the relevant physical size, developments on GAAFET will probably extend the limit closer to 3nm. But it's worth mentioning that there are multiple types of transistors around
@MetroidChild
@MetroidChild 6 жыл бұрын
The way the video puts it the practical limits of silicon transistors is 5nm, but that only really goes for FinFETs, normal planar MOSFETs really had their last practical run around 20nm (maybe 10nm if we count planar FD-SOI). The same goes the other way too, advances in new transistor shapes (horizontal/vertical GAA-FETs and the like) will help to push beyond the limits of 5nm, probably to around 4-2nm.
@mantisnomo5984
@mantisnomo5984 6 жыл бұрын
Aren't you guys conveniently ignoring the 3rd dimension?
@MetroidChild
@MetroidChild 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you mean, FinFETs were called "3d transistors" by Intel back when they were introduced due to them judding upwards (and moreso true with modern taller/thinner FinFETs). The whole point of vertical GAA-FETs (or who knows maybe vertical TFETs) is to utilize the third dimension for better efficiency, but this can in some cases lead to _less_ dense transistors which is problematic for some areas. If you mean stacking transistors/dies on top of each other; that doesn't really change the way transistors are made, which is what the video again talks about (or doesn't depending on who you ask).
@kercchan3307
@kercchan3307 6 жыл бұрын
heat becomes a major issue with silicon chipsets the smaller the transistors get, luckily material science is slowly working on cheaper better materials
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 2 жыл бұрын
Gallium Antimonide, Gallium Germanide, Gallium Nitride and Gallium Arsenide transistors are a few options for 3nm and smaller nodes, to list a few.
@adinameissner2271
@adinameissner2271 6 жыл бұрын
Well, there are also some great potential upsides to the end of moore's law: like our gadgets won't need to be replaced every 6 months and programmers will have to actually start doing a good job since the bloatware hamster wheel will have to stop.
@denisethasder8193
@denisethasder8193 6 жыл бұрын
We always find a way to improve technology. It’s just a matter of time and resources. Although I can’t say I’ll be paying $10,000 for a new breed of computer
@RoScFan
@RoScFan 6 жыл бұрын
Denise Thasder some things are impossible. Dont forget we cant surpass the speed of light
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 6 жыл бұрын
or the quantum effects become more dominant
@nltiro3387
@nltiro3387 6 жыл бұрын
Denise Thasder if it let's me run pubg at medium graphics I will
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 6 жыл бұрын
RoScFan we can not surpass the speed of light....yet.
@elenaa_28
@elenaa_28 6 жыл бұрын
it's not possible...at all
@R3MIXMODZ
@R3MIXMODZ 6 жыл бұрын
I went on a tour to a huge factory where I lived and they said their one of the biggest manufacturers for phone IC chips. They said throughout all of their careers, they have managed to have 3 IC components in the iPhone build and some with others. Keep in mind they have millions of dollars worth of components only to result with 3 IC Chips. Thats just amazing.
@mantisnomo5984
@mantisnomo5984 6 жыл бұрын
What's amazing is that their careers did not exist before the iPhone. When I worked at Apple, the "competition" between vendors to get their products included in the design of an Apple product was fierce. I lost my job because my boss and my boss's boss took bribes from a vendor to use their inferior part, but I refused to go along. Perhaps integrity is overrated, but I still believe criminals should be punished.
@williamzhang963
@williamzhang963 6 жыл бұрын
People made the same prediction for the 10nm node less than a decade ago, saying that would be the end to silicons, now we are 7nm. I read that Samsung is planning 3nm Gate-All-Around FETs in 2021, so maybe 5nm isn't the end.
@seymoronion8371
@seymoronion8371 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need to worry about the claimed Ryzen CPU (7mn) 5-year burnout, because you can just by a new Intel CPU three years from now. Never you mind that Intel's new CPUs will also be 7nm...
@doriandodo99
@doriandodo99 6 жыл бұрын
2:28 CARBON NANOTUBE TRANSISTORS !! - NCIXKeys
@warmon6
@warmon6 6 жыл бұрын
oh R.I.P NCIX but that saying will live on. lol
@qboycorvi
@qboycorvi 6 жыл бұрын
Dorian Tomašinec Searched the comments if anyone picked up on this. Was not disappointed.
@TheFlacker99
@TheFlacker99 6 жыл бұрын
Julia has a show now with tech news.
@doriandodo99
@doriandodo99 6 жыл бұрын
I know im subbed "snippy snippets"
@Cineenvenordquist
@Cineenvenordquist 6 жыл бұрын
Cite, my dudes. Show an Advanced Nano Materials we never saw before.
@somename1324
@somename1324 5 жыл бұрын
Quick FYI, the manufacturing process is 14nm (and shrinking down to 7 soon) and 12 is available. The transistors are actually much larger but we can laser etch the fins down to a width of 7ish nm or 14nm for the chips referenced in this video (First gen AMD 500 GPU's, first gen AMD Ryzen chips, etc.)
@greypaladin4560
@greypaladin4560 6 жыл бұрын
One neat option I have read about is to incorporate the quantum effects of the sub 5nm structures into the design--either using them directly, or having a correction system built in to the chips. But, that still probably won't get us very far for all the complexity it would introduce. I'm betting after 2021-ish machine learning and optimization will be applied to improve software and chip design for another few years while the industry figures out just where it is going to go.
@tomnoyb5079
@tomnoyb5079 6 жыл бұрын
A single ladder rung of DNA has 18 unique "states" vs silicon's two. DNA is 2nm vs silicon's 5nm theoretical limit. That's 22 times improvement over silicon. Not recommending DNA computing, rather that there are more compact (and thus faster with lower power) structures than silicon.
@robinsuj
@robinsuj 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that DNA storage is a thing that's being seriously considered.
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 6 жыл бұрын
pabloeli29 Yeah, there was serious progress on that front. Prohibitively expensive though.
@NotSafer
@NotSafer 6 жыл бұрын
I understand where you're coming from, but what you have to consider is that the typical computer transistor changes it's state purely with electricity billions of times per second. DNA is an interesting mechanism to store information, but it doesn't have the capability to change and process information, with that amount of electrons running through, it would rapidly degenerate. Each DNA strand merely holds a certain piece of information, so the comparison is not at all valid...
@tomnoyb5079
@tomnoyb5079 6 жыл бұрын
Ricardo - Surely there'd be many more technology challenges than that? Merely laid out the theoretical limit. A factor of 22 is seven-years on the Moore's-law curve. Moore's law originally postulated halving gate-lengths every eighteen-months. In other words, if Moore's law were to extend past 5 nm, DNA could only add seven-years to the curve. Is it possible to develop DNA to the point of mass production within the two-years left on Moore's law? One presumes not. Even if DNA computing were the correct technology direction, it couldn't save Moore's law. Moore's law has been the economic growth engine for the world. When it stops, what happens to economic growth? Most of us have never seen a world without that growth. We rely on it. Now it's over.
@NotSafer
@NotSafer 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is certainly a lot more limitations, but I'm just laying out the basic limitations as for why DNA is not a feasible solution, it is simply because DNA does not compute, DNA stores data, it is an interesting factor when talking about storage technology, HDs, NAND flash, etc. But this video is in another subject that DNA plays no role in other than the mere length comparison. And of course, we are getting to the limit of Moore's prediction, we will probably have to move away from transistors to the next big thing in the next few decades.
@retrobrw919
@retrobrw919 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trace. You're talking about FETs, or Field Effect Transistors with the gate/drain/source at the start of this video. Not regular transistors, or what we would call Bi-polar junction transistors in electronics, which have a collector, an emitter, and a base. Although, FET's are what most chips are made with now.
@Toastmaster_5000
@Toastmaster_5000 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and? Processors use FETs (some specifically use FinFETs) and have been for years. Trace isn't wrong.
@shre6619
@shre6619 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks,i was confused that my book had transistor made of emitter,base,collector ones. I didnt knew about these FET
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 6 жыл бұрын
they are still transistors - and those are affected just the same.
@denniskarnes8680
@denniskarnes8680 6 жыл бұрын
Yoshi Knuckles Exactly FET's and MOSFET's have been around for many years but this guy prob never heard of them.
@billmyers6096
@billmyers6096 6 жыл бұрын
Yoshi Knuckles, Yup, you nailed it! Different beasts altogether. And, Trace IS wrong, Peter Schmidt. Trace was historically talking about BJT transistors and never switched gears to a FET. It wouldn't have taken any effort for him to clarify and say "FET" when addressing the Source, Drain, and Gate explanation. Trace is ignorant, else he would have said, "Emitter, Collector, and a Base." This isn't the first time Trace has been wrong, and it won't be the last. It happens to all of us - myself included. However, after offering up a smoke sacrifice to the Electron gods about 40 years ago when I thought I'd just be able to replace a FET with a BJT in an amplifier circuit, I've never confused the two since. Ever!
@GioGziro95
@GioGziro95 6 жыл бұрын
0:34: „...and if the gate allows the electrons to pass...“ Seems like you're saying that the gate actually keeps electrons from flowing from the source to the drain which isn't technically correct. What keeps electrons from flowing through the transistor is the electric field between the source and the drain, and the gate helps the electrons to overcome it by attracting them. I'm oversimplifying the process but that's basically it.
@ashwingiri1510
@ashwingiri1510 Жыл бұрын
I am from Future and can safely say that the new iPhone 15 pro max has 3 nm chip.
@JoseRamirez-yh2ll
@JoseRamirez-yh2ll 6 жыл бұрын
Just when things are going good. Physics always ends up getting in the way. We always hit that wall! *Damn you physics!!!!!*
@oari1150
@oari1150 6 жыл бұрын
Physics. Making everyone his bitch since 14 billion B.C.
@Azknowledgethirsty
@Azknowledgethirsty 6 жыл бұрын
O'Ari 13.8BCE
@tylerslagel5485
@tylerslagel5485 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and then we always wrecking ball our way through it. Don't worry.
@40g33k
@40g33k 3 жыл бұрын
Fish hits wall. Dam... He said
@NocturnalRS
@NocturnalRS 5 жыл бұрын
If you're the driver avoiding eye contact in your commute to work is probably a good thing, otherwise that reference seems random lol.
@burt591
@burt591 6 жыл бұрын
What if you keep the same transistor size but just put more of them? The CPU will be bigger, but what's the problem with that? Why do they need to make them smaller to make it faster? I think that's a viable thing to do at least up to 3 times the size form the ones we have now. What am I missing?
@phillipcarpenter1638
@phillipcarpenter1638 6 жыл бұрын
*burt591* The larger the cpu, the slower and hotter it runs.
@burt591
@burt591 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but still I think 3 times the size from the ones we have is feasible, just needs 3x bigger cooling system. It would be nice to know exactly how the size affects it.
@dasemmiyogurt6288
@dasemmiyogurt6288 6 жыл бұрын
burt591 For Desktop/Tower Pc's it would work but whats with smartphones and laptops
@burt591
@burt591 6 жыл бұрын
Good point
@cortster12
@cortster12 6 жыл бұрын
burt591 It would also cost three times as much, which then you'll just have a super computer that costs a ton. Because when you make them smaller, they use less energy per transitor, thus you get more bang for your buck.
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 5 жыл бұрын
Until we acheive or exceed 1-2NM in size there is no point in trying to go beyond silicon based semi-conductors. We've been readily exceeding Moore's law since it's inception.
@mykies2297
@mykies2297 5 жыл бұрын
A transistor has 3 leads base, emitter and collector. A Mosfet has gat, source and drain.
@jeffo9396
@jeffo9396 5 жыл бұрын
A MOSFET is still a transistor, though.
@darkling65
@darkling65 6 жыл бұрын
Temperature also effects the vibration of matter. I'd imagine that if you super-cool the same chip you will get less jumping of electrons.
@pankajkaurav3155
@pankajkaurav3155 3 жыл бұрын
In 2021 scientist about to get 0 nm size of transistor Science is really amazing
@GamerForLife514
@GamerForLife514 6 жыл бұрын
I want Seeker to talk about PC and Console Gaming, and how with more Powerful GPU's, CPU's and APU's will be in the future and Gaming Industry in 10 and 20 years will be huge.
@nicolefawkes419
@nicolefawkes419 6 жыл бұрын
I think a better CPU analogy would be to compare it to an engine, not a brain. Instead of pistons you have electricity. Its job is to crunch numbers... they run, they don't think. The computer is not smart, even with AI or ML - your software does that, the computer simply runs the software.
@aenigmaticus_ca
@aenigmaticus_ca 6 жыл бұрын
...For now.
@RonanTetsu
@RonanTetsu 6 жыл бұрын
Nicole Fawkes It's not just software. it takes particular hardware infrastructure. DSPs, the GPU, and CPU are usually combined with special infrastructure to do something. There's some form of thinking, software or not.
@mantisnomo5984
@mantisnomo5984 6 жыл бұрын
The computer doesn't "crunch numbers." It is a symbol manipulator.
@johnw1385
@johnw1385 6 жыл бұрын
You are a machine... Don't belive it get a map of what portion of your brain controls what functions... And get a power with a long drill bit... Write us after drilling your motor corex and let us know how non machine and magical brain is doing. Good luck
@harleyme3163
@harleyme3163 6 жыл бұрын
its not a brain... all it does is spit out 1's and 0's this is way its possible to make a cpu that use's light. think about a flashlight turning on off.. leds and a light sensor is = to a single transistor so that why he meant it might be larger then todays cpus
@MartiniPinball
@MartiniPinball 4 жыл бұрын
2020 and we are already working on sub 3nm chiplets
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 6 жыл бұрын
Why not just make the chips twice the size or quadruple the size and have one giant CPU but keep the gates the same size? More gates bigger CPU.
@matthewsmith2385
@matthewsmith2385 6 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Pirtle Jr facts
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875 6 жыл бұрын
uhhh they already do that. its called multicore.
@RoboticSkillz
@RoboticSkillz 6 жыл бұрын
Bigger CPUs need more voltage to run. Thus also getting hotter and needing better cooling solutions. That's really all that shrinking nodes is about. Being able to have more transistors in a small package, while keeping power consumption and temperatures low. What I mean is, you can't just quadruple the "CPU size". It'd have alot of problems, but the biggest one by far would be the power consumption.
@benjaminmcintosh857
@benjaminmcintosh857 6 жыл бұрын
Manufacturing a piece of silicon without defects get VERY expensive once you start making it big (exponentially so). And there are losses associated with using multiple silicon chips for the same processor. Also bigger chip - harder to cool; just look at Threadripper or Xeon Phi
@niter43
@niter43 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have a good grip in field/might be wrong, but IMO y'all answering are missing main point. CPUs run in discrete steps by command of clock signal (imagine a metronome idk), so each transistor has to go into it's final state for given step in constant timeframe, before next clock/beat. Transistors relay on electrons, which can't be faster than speed of light. So, at 5ghz electron can only go for c*(1/5x10^9)=6 centimetres before it's late and next clock starts. Now add overhead of that transistors aren't connected in straight lines, that they aren't actually traveling at full speed of light and add some headroom/tolerances. Somewhat-somewhat in the same order of current CPU cores sizes. So, to summarize: big cores - low clock speeds. And probably there is not that much to add (and plenty of designs were tried?) to make core bigger, so when lithography shinks CPU manufacturers don't add more transistors to cores, but go for higher clock speeds. Adding cores is possibility (because they don't need to be perfectly synchronised on each clock?), but only effective for specific tasks / before certain amount of cores.
@dandandan18
@dandandan18 11 ай бұрын
It's 2024, and we're beginning to manufacture 2nm transistors
@hoangkimviet8545
@hoangkimviet8545 6 жыл бұрын
I love the shirt of Trace. Benjamin Franklin and the kite :0
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 6 жыл бұрын
Franklin was great!!!
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
Earth is flat flat
@DonCDXX
@DonCDXX 6 жыл бұрын
Benny F was one of the awesome ones.
@jesusmejia1334
@jesusmejia1334 6 жыл бұрын
He was an OG.
@eriktran9682
@eriktran9682 6 жыл бұрын
John Kaboly Ok, stop spreading bullshit dude.
@sludgefactory241
@sludgefactory241 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they are pushing ahead with 3nm processes, so that no go under 5nm kinda got thrown out the window. Tsmc is having problems with the yields but it'll get there
@TheJan1207
@TheJan1207 6 жыл бұрын
An hour ago I was watching some videos by Joe Scott about this topic and a couple of minutes later you uploaded this video. I think the matrix is broken again.
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Baumstumpfkopf earth is flat
@magicweaponr072
@magicweaponr072 6 жыл бұрын
Irfanul Karim no u
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Magic Weapon R0 Flat Flat Flat. Earth is flat and it sun is 6000 miles above. You believe in GPS does that even work? It's all fake. How can there be satellites when earth is flat. Btw Mars and Sun and Moon are round . Earth is flat and disc shaped.
@johannesleirgul953
@johannesleirgul953 6 жыл бұрын
"How can there be satellites when the earth is flat." How can earth be flat if there are satellites?
@BRAMSTONER
@BRAMSTONER 6 жыл бұрын
Irfanul Karim ok lets say earth is flat now what governments r still fucking ppl with no vasalin ice cube was flat
@EgadsNo
@EgadsNo 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget clock speed. How well it handles heat is super important too.
@okdoomer620
@okdoomer620 6 жыл бұрын
Uhm... Processor speeds stopped increasing more than 10 years ago, this is not news. But computers are still getting faster though. It's just that you don't get the free speed up you used to get by simply increasing the clock speed. Today you have two or more cores in CPUs, modern GPUs even have thousands of cores, and more and more tasks are solved on GPUs now. You just need to be more clever about it, so software gets written with a parallel or multicore processor architecture in mind. I'm not saying that we won't have other than silicon based processors in the future, but you can get very far just with more cores and parallel programming... And if you don't find anything that's a lot (!) faster, you're going to have parallelism anyways, and in that case it would need to be cheaper and as reliable as silicon... Not going to happen soon...
@wildhostage
@wildhostage 3 жыл бұрын
Whoopsie, seems 5nm wasnt the limit
@ganopterygon
@ganopterygon 6 жыл бұрын
we could get rid of windows 10 and increase performance 100x, just saying...
@clayestes4640
@clayestes4640 6 жыл бұрын
Aurelio Rockdriguez Windows 10 performance is way better than any of the previous windows...so unless they develop something else I don’t know where you’re gonna go lol
@timeriderx
@timeriderx 6 жыл бұрын
It's not the operating system but the power of the ram, CPU and other factors that help Winblows do it's thing! Layer upon layer of crap programing needs so much power to work!!
@Gunnareth
@Gunnareth 6 жыл бұрын
ima keep it real with u chief i am NOT going to use linux for gaming
@ciraxa
@ciraxa 6 жыл бұрын
Steam now supports more than 2.5k games on Linux, just saying... @@Gunnareth Should be usable for gaming in 5-10 years if there isn´t another open source OS by then.
@PenisMcWhirtar
@PenisMcWhirtar 6 жыл бұрын
Win98 FTW!!!
@yenaarts
@yenaarts 6 жыл бұрын
One thing they have wrong in this video is the size of the transistors. 14-20 nm refers to the resolution that’s used when transferring the template to the silicon wafer when the processor is manufactured, not the gate itself.
@LordDice1
@LordDice1 6 жыл бұрын
Killed the shawshank reference😁
@OomNeil
@OomNeil 6 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh so hard!!
@erikk77
@erikk77 6 жыл бұрын
He nailed it!
@aidangillett5396
@aidangillett5396 6 жыл бұрын
We stopped going for clock rate a long time ago - we were doing 3ghz+ in the early 2000's - and started pursuing more data in each clock cycle, and more cores to multiply the amount of work that could be done. We don't NEED smaller transistors we can either use physically much larger cpu's or many more of them. I kind of like the idea of having a motherboard with 32 cpu slots in it and you simply add as many cpu's as you want performance. Of course software development needs to change to be highly multi threaded, this would probably benefit most from a hypervisor that dynamically handles this and spreads the load so it appears to the software as 1 core/thread but is actually running on dozens at once
@dragoola69x
@dragoola69x 5 жыл бұрын
Truthfully I'm surprised we haven't used the engineering and technology that goes into to transistors on Silicon Wafers to make small and or Nano batteries that can be layers upon layers to increase energy density tenfold because what is a transistor BUT a p-type anode and n-type cathode battery essentially a bry voltaic pile on a microscopic even Nano scale but what do I know I'm just a dishwasher.
@zeeeeeeeeeev6493
@zeeeeeeeeeev6493 2 жыл бұрын
what
@adrianlowery7175
@adrianlowery7175 2 жыл бұрын
There's a major reason why some tech doesn't get developed: market interests. If rich people aren't going to make a big enough profit from a tech evolution, that tech evolution won't happen.
@bilboXbartok
@bilboXbartok 6 жыл бұрын
What you are talking about: "Source - Drain - Gate" is not a regular transistor it is what is called a FET or Field Effect Transistor, which is a quite different mechanism from a regular transistor! This might seem to be a minor point, except that these two devices work in quite different ways!
@justrhyme123
@justrhyme123 6 жыл бұрын
the content is so weak. you could just put " ....next is transistors using light or molybdenum sul...." in the title of the video instead of having me watch a 4 min video where the answer to the title is just 30 secs or less without any detail. rest of it is verrry basic info and ads
@bigtime9597
@bigtime9597 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy because TSMC (major chip manufacturer for AMD, NVidia and Intel) are already beginning production on 7nm architecture.
@alamond3318
@alamond3318 6 жыл бұрын
"Small is actually good" not so sure about that...
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan The Guy earth is flat.
@Toastmaster_5000
@Toastmaster_5000 6 жыл бұрын
@bfnvalley
@bfnvalley 6 жыл бұрын
Growers not showers.
@TheRosemontag
@TheRosemontag 6 жыл бұрын
That’s what she said.
@dellconagher8121
@dellconagher8121 6 жыл бұрын
It's the tech that matters
@icarusno
@icarusno 6 жыл бұрын
Just being nitpicky about the physics, but it isn't the current that represents a 1 or 0, but the voltage level. Voltage is what triggers the gate in a transistor to open or close, which is what allow computations to be completed. Yes, current does flow during switching, but a stable voltage level (a stable bit) is what is computed.
@rohandebbarma24
@rohandebbarma24 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've seen from your channel. I must say I got addicted to such an extend I can't describe. In it to learn more and more. Afterall knowledge is power! ☺️ Looking forward to more about Electronics. That's my favourite topic.
@kineticstar
@kineticstar 6 жыл бұрын
Power consumption of a light based cpu and size will need to be made more viable before anything like that can be used. Switching on lazers and light emitting diodes at speeds required will need massive requirements for startup draw and thermal dissipation. Phase discrepancy of the wave guide will also be a headache. Fiber over longer spans is flexible but on distance like a cpu it will be difficult to work with and develop.
@cameronbeyer7687
@cameronbeyer7687 6 жыл бұрын
CARBON NANO TUBES
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Beyer earth is flat
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Beyer Graphene Nano Circuits
@mrboleus8240
@mrboleus8240 4 жыл бұрын
R&D should focus more on optimisation. Imagine we reached hardware limit of 99% with latest 7nm, while with software optimization we're at roughly 1%. On the other side, we can wait and pray for new, non silicon chip, or even quantum chip taking commercial market.
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 6 жыл бұрын
Ant man can fix anything that has to do with “quantum”.
@___xyz___
@___xyz___ 4 жыл бұрын
0:05 vacuum tube transistors are still superior to anything made today in terms of operating frequency. we just haven't found a way to mass produce vacuum channel transistor based processors yet.
@dudewat212
@dudewat212 6 жыл бұрын
"Quantum Mechanic Valley" doesn't have as nice a ring to it.
@venkathariharan1515
@venkathariharan1515 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, good one!
@BackFischKuchen
@BackFischKuchen 5 жыл бұрын
A closed gate does not not represent a "zero". For a "one" a gate connected to the high voltage is open and for a "zero" the gate to the ground/low voltage is open.
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 6 жыл бұрын
Does the voltage at the source affect the probability of tunnelling taking place? Seems like it would, but it's a quantum thing, so who knows?
@Fred_Costa
@Fred_Costa 6 жыл бұрын
It very much does. (trust me, i'm on my second Quantum Mechanics course)
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 6 жыл бұрын
nope. our understanding of physics breaks at the macro and micro levels. "More research is needed."
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 6 жыл бұрын
David Beppler Our understanding of physics at the macro level is quite complete. Admittedly, there remains much to be discovered about the quantum world. And, more research will ALWAYS be needed.
@Toastmaster_5000
@Toastmaster_5000 6 жыл бұрын
I'm no physicist, but it definitely *seems* as though higher voltage does encourage tunneling. Higher voltage from overclocking is known to cause transistors to leak. Generally speaking, the smaller the transistor, the less voltage you want to use. But if there's too little voltage, you can't reliably activate the gates. Voltage gets harder to refine as it gets smaller. This is where the cost effectiveness comes into play.
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 6 жыл бұрын
Gate voltage is not the same as source voltage. The problem as explained is that source electrons tunnel right through the gate if it's too thin, whether the gate is activated or not. It seems to me (though I don't really know) that dropping the source voltage would solve the problem. Gate voltage could remain whatever it needs to be. Obviously I'm just guessing.
@jimpikoulis6726
@jimpikoulis6726 6 жыл бұрын
From what I understand by 2021-22 transistors within a Silicon Chip will stop shrinking. The drawback of S.C is heat generation as the ever increasing number of transistors makes it difficult to keep S.C within temperature limits. There are other limitations but for over 60 years S.C have served us well considering that the chip itself has kept pace with Moore's law.
@forget2bhuman993
@forget2bhuman993 6 жыл бұрын
this video was just the moores law video redone.... didnt actually say something is next... just 'oh we needa think of something new' yeah..... ok..... the videos substance was that? HAHAHAHA
@undefeatedmc
@undefeatedmc 6 жыл бұрын
FOR GOD SAKES LIGHT COMPUTING! IT'S SO AESTHETICALLY PLEASING! Imagine gaming computer builds with mostly transparent illuminated parts ♥️
@jsull81
@jsull81 6 жыл бұрын
What about graphene transistors?
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 6 жыл бұрын
J Snow 😊
@itsmetheherpes1750
@itsmetheherpes1750 6 жыл бұрын
quantum physics .
@mantisnomo5984
@mantisnomo5984 6 жыл бұрын
Probably.
@kyleswoodworks2868
@kyleswoodworks2868 6 жыл бұрын
it'sMe TheHerpes, quantum computers.
@itsmetheherpes1750
@itsmetheherpes1750 6 жыл бұрын
PLANET, i meant something else
@MichaelClark-uw7ex
@MichaelClark-uw7ex 6 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't just size but also distance between devices on the chips. Electricity travels at a finite speed so the farther it has to travel the longer it takes, modern CPUs are mostly 2 dimensional and some signals have to travel from one side of the chip all the way to the other which takes time. That leads to the logical conclusion that not only would making the devices smaller and therefore closer together improve speed but making them 3 dimensional would also shorten the distances even more and increase speed even more.
@WhyteLis21
@WhyteLis21 6 жыл бұрын
Money should never be the limit for our technology advances. 😁
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 6 жыл бұрын
WhyteLis21 Agreed
@WhyteLis21
@WhyteLis21 6 жыл бұрын
stardude2006 😊👍
@traso56
@traso56 6 жыл бұрын
who is going to pay for it then?? i would like advances too but nothing in this world is free
@WhyteLis21
@WhyteLis21 6 жыл бұрын
traso as far as the world is concern, it is free. Only us human needs money or a currency of sort.
@traso56
@traso56 6 жыл бұрын
then go ahead and tell the companies to make improvements for free because as far as everyone is concerned only humans can develop our techonoly
@PrimiusLovin
@PrimiusLovin 6 жыл бұрын
Personal random prediction with no serious investigation done on the subject: most of the performance we got from silicon chips was due to the shrinking of nodes that has been happening since the 1970's. We won't be able to shrink this technology much further, it's physically impossible. We'll need a completely new technology by 2030 if we are to keep the performance improvements (Moore's law) we're accustomed to in computing power...
@mikechambers9129
@mikechambers9129 6 жыл бұрын
"Eat your heart out, Andy Dufresne!" ... Still laughing! Good one!
@rahullamagna900
@rahullamagna900 3 жыл бұрын
How come TSMC and Samsung competing to build worlds first 3nm transistor if 5nm is the lower limit predicted?
@socialmedia5534
@socialmedia5534 2 жыл бұрын
The limit is 2nm
@honey4xi
@honey4xi 6 жыл бұрын
When Silicon chip reaches to the end, Quantum chip will be next. Will Quantum chip work in consumers' computers or only work in the industrial computers like IBM? *Will Intel and AMD make Quantum chip into computers for consumers?*
@hihtitmamnan
@hihtitmamnan 6 жыл бұрын
don't spread false info. quantum computers are nowhere close to x64 computers and their destination is totally different. also silicon is a material, quantum is mechanics of the microscopic world. jesus christ.
@honey4xi
@honey4xi 6 жыл бұрын
@@hihtitmamnan Thank you for telling me the differences.
@robertlong6311
@robertlong6311 6 жыл бұрын
Larger processor clusters is an easy way to solve this. Just make bigger chips. When the main processor chips get to be about 5 pounds this will probably max out and and we will have a better tech to switch over to. Hopefully, before they get to the 5 pound mark of course.
@dryaldibread2327
@dryaldibread2327 6 жыл бұрын
This Is The End Of Seekers, Here's Is What's Next xD
@perseverance8
@perseverance8 6 жыл бұрын
Even if & when they run into Fab limitations there are a number of design tactics that can be employed such as stacking working elements which is essentially being done with "3D NAND" flash storage.
@romanvonungern-sternberg1322
@romanvonungern-sternberg1322 6 жыл бұрын
Why dOeS your thumbnails look so gooood 🤤🤤🤤
@abulhassanmohammad
@abulhassanmohammad 6 жыл бұрын
Source Gate Drain is only applicable to -FET based transistors, which constitute the overwhelming majority of transistors used today but they're by no means the only ones. We use different notations for other types. Nice video nevertheless :)
@adityas820
@adityas820 6 жыл бұрын
Hi (Sorry for my bad english)
@adityas820
@adityas820 6 жыл бұрын
alex mercer ......thnx....I knew that I am missing something....
@vvv2k12
@vvv2k12 6 жыл бұрын
was* missing
@adityas820
@adityas820 6 жыл бұрын
vvv2k12 ....I've already said sorry 😒😒
@pc_screen5478
@pc_screen5478 6 жыл бұрын
aditya solanke I've already said *I'm* sorry
@adityas820
@adityas820 6 жыл бұрын
AH SEU VOU ...............I am saying again .....SORRY....or I AM SORRY......
@muramasa7537
@muramasa7537 6 жыл бұрын
So if other elements are used to make new types of chips , will the coding system be same or will they change making us learn new methods or programming languages ?
@CreamedCurry
@CreamedCurry 6 жыл бұрын
Graphene?
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 6 жыл бұрын
Azure Co Yessssss !!!!!!!!
@ChadKovac
@ChadKovac 6 жыл бұрын
The electrons aren't "teleporting" through the gate, they're simply passing through it without intereference due to the space between the atoms.
@판사님저는오늘만삽니
@판사님저는오늘만삽니 6 жыл бұрын
damn... i wish i was born 100years later...
@i_smoke_ghosts
@i_smoke_ghosts 6 жыл бұрын
판사님 삽니다 저는오늘만 you must be from the future coz yor english is so futuristic ! Coz i mean wat are those → 오 오 ?!
@digitalgaming3701
@digitalgaming3701 6 жыл бұрын
판사님 저는오늘만 삽니다 or u can time travel 100 years later.. pretty cool though
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 6 жыл бұрын
Koreans are the perfect people. Ask them. ;)
@damagecontrol7
@damagecontrol7 6 жыл бұрын
판사님 저는오늘만 삽니다 just get cryogenically frozen and wait it out 🤔🤔
@shiroeloghorizon9771
@shiroeloghorizon9771 6 жыл бұрын
But what if u were forgotten and acidentally wake 500years later where everyone drink gatorade coz it have "electrolytes"
@purplepanda8753
@purplepanda8753 6 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that saying “we could use carbon nanotubes” sounds awesome?
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 6 жыл бұрын
Zeros and ones of electronics is like waves and particles is quantum mechanics!
@npm1811
@npm1811 6 жыл бұрын
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory Huh?
@kindlin
@kindlin 6 жыл бұрын
What's with your name bro. Tho, it summarizes you post pretty well, I'll admit.
@jordanjacobson6046
@jordanjacobson6046 6 жыл бұрын
What is this Deepak Chopra nonsense your're saying? They couldn't be any more unlike each other. The actions of the transistors in a computing device are deterministic, and are on discrete binary values. Waves and particles in quantum mechanics represent a duality of quantum systems, the ones and zeroes of binary are not some duality, they are just symbols is a formal system that has been arbitrarily defined. Quantum systems typically dont deal with any kind of binary values, but instead have a (possibly infinite) set of discrete values the system can take on. They arent deterministic, they are random .
@npm1811
@npm1811 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Jacobson lol my thoughts too
@youfurz2
@youfurz2 6 жыл бұрын
Thats not how it works dude...
@ArlanKels
@ArlanKels 6 жыл бұрын
Light based computers sounds cool. But does that mean you'd need to have a flawlessly sealed container to keep external lights out?
@doesntlooklikeanythingtome
@doesntlooklikeanythingtome 6 жыл бұрын
April fools
@azmeriliza3788
@azmeriliza3788 6 жыл бұрын
arnold lowe it's 31th March 😁
@truthexposed7167
@truthexposed7167 6 жыл бұрын
Azmeri Liza oh....he fooled u in march...
@sideoutside
@sideoutside 6 жыл бұрын
nope, just a fool.
@ToriksLV
@ToriksLV 6 жыл бұрын
I am a really slow learner but visual grafs made it very easy to understand it. nice
@samsharma3216
@samsharma3216 6 жыл бұрын
Your Awesome Man
@johnkaboly5313
@johnkaboly5313 6 жыл бұрын
Earth is flat flat
@chris_tzikas
@chris_tzikas 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, his awsome man.
@mantisnomo5984
@mantisnomo5984 6 жыл бұрын
The uninitiated are incapable of distinguishing garbage from haute cuisine.
@SIMKINETICS
@SIMKINETICS 6 жыл бұрын
You missed describing the most important attribute of transistors; that they are amplifiers! The action of a diode gate in a transistor is initiated by power much lower than the switched or amplified power transmission in a circuit. A macroscopic model of this action is found in an electromechanical relay that uses a low-power coil to close (turn on) or open (turn off) an electrical circuit with electrical contacts with much more power transferred in the separate [secondary] main circuit. A transistor gate can be controlled with a small rise or descent in low current and/or voltage to either vary much greater power as an analog device or to simply switch such greater power as a digital signal device. The amplification & low-power switching in transistors allows miniaturization of logic circuits with commensurately lower values of power consumption, latency, noise, eddy-current interference & heat generation. The employment of quantum tunneling allows even greater miniaturization, but it doesn't alter the essential function of amplification in transistors.
@cahidijoyoraharjo7833
@cahidijoyoraharjo7833 6 жыл бұрын
Is time travel scientifically achievable?
@nashs.4206
@nashs.4206 6 жыл бұрын
To the future, yes. To the past, no.
@oari1150
@oari1150 6 жыл бұрын
Nash Shrestha eh, if you talk about time traveling to a different universe, than maybe
@ski88les
@ski88les 6 жыл бұрын
No
@benharrykirk2824
@benharrykirk2824 6 жыл бұрын
Normally: Future yes, past no. With wormholes/timeholes: Future yes, past maybe. With negative mass: Future yes, past maybe. With black holes: Future yes, post-time yes (though you'd need to enter the black hole to do so, so you'd be dead anyways), past probably not. With relativistic speeds: Future yes, past no. With superluminal speeds: All bets are off. With a DeLorean: Go whenever the hell you want.
@yayjuiws4224
@yayjuiws4224 6 жыл бұрын
I hate how everyone is so sure in each and every of your comments when all those claims aren't even in a theoretical level.
@plc3653
@plc3653 6 жыл бұрын
we have to think the reason why we need to shrink the transistors at all. It is because of we need small and more powerful hardware to run our mobile devices. Consider this, if one day a new battery technology comes out that drastically shrink the volume of the batteries we use, there would be a lot of space left for bigger chips. There won't be a need to shrink anything else
@maximalgamingnl9954
@maximalgamingnl9954 6 жыл бұрын
NONESENSE
@TenTenzo
@TenTenzo 6 жыл бұрын
How is this nonesense? You obviously don't know how computers work.
@maximalgamingnl9954
@maximalgamingnl9954 6 жыл бұрын
Julian Stassen No, you're a computer
@oari1150
@oari1150 6 жыл бұрын
UNACCEPTAAAAAABLEEEEEEE
@f.a3202
@f.a3202 6 жыл бұрын
Well at n-channel mosfet or fet current flows from drain to source. And electrons flow the other way around same as current at p-channel mosfet or fet
@sekharmenonk8462
@sekharmenonk8462 6 жыл бұрын
yes 180th !!!!!
@sekharmenonk8462
@sekharmenonk8462 6 жыл бұрын
highlighted!
@carrotzombi
@carrotzombi 6 жыл бұрын
I have a big question, when we hit that limit, why don't we expand the cpu chip area.
@wa54
@wa54 6 жыл бұрын
YES. 50th
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
WA earth is flat.
@evananderson1455
@evananderson1455 6 жыл бұрын
Karim Great Britain is the only reason anybody cares about India Luk i haz trollz 2
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Anderson Earth is rectangular. Have you seen rectangular planets?
@evananderson1455
@evananderson1455 6 жыл бұрын
Irfanul Karim all the best shapes are rectangle
@irfanulkarim4992
@irfanulkarim4992 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Anderson Great
@madjimms
@madjimms 6 жыл бұрын
"end of silicon!" We've been hearing this for a long time and nothing new has ACTUALLY replaced it in CPU's...
@KalaMiDeviL
@KalaMiDeviL 6 жыл бұрын
The 1 and 0 thing is actually wrong. The only time you will find a current in a transistor, is when it changes its state. The real 1 is the voltage of 5V the transistor has after switching and that 1 is interpreted is by the effect the voltage has on connected transistors as it encourages their gates to react. And 0 would be no voltage. If the current was flowing all throughout the on-state, transistors would need much more space or room-filling cooling systems due to the heat generated by the current. Also, the chips intel makes nowadays would need massive power supplies to run and be very shortlived.
@ThatOneScienceGuy
@ThatOneScienceGuy 6 жыл бұрын
When Trace first started out I thought he was a dork who wouldn’t make it. But I’ve grown to really like him.
@sol666
@sol666 6 жыл бұрын
Molybdenum is already an extremely rare metal and is used in absurdly minute quantities in smartphones. It is unlikely to resolve the shrinking transistor conundrum when it cannot even be obtained on commercial scale.
@grayswandir47
@grayswandir47 6 жыл бұрын
The first transistors were based on germanium. Silicon turned out to be easier to purify and the crystals are more stable which made it more reliable. Is any research being done with germanium these days or is it just an entry in the history books. What became of gallium - arsinide? I read about the this material years ago as a potential successor to silicon.
@claymccormick1203
@claymccormick1203 6 жыл бұрын
the short answer to what happens when we can't make the transistors any smaller is that we will get much more 3d but this causes problems with heat so we will also have to get more efficient there is a long way before we run out of ways we know to get more complex before we run out of ways to do it.
@carlocarnevali7790
@carlocarnevali7790 6 жыл бұрын
3 nm is the minimum that can be achieved. Samsung and TSMC have fully developed 7 nm architecture, almost finished 5 nm, and samsung is starting to work on the 3 nm silicon. For that, 3 nm sets the limit of shrinking to date. But I think that even smaller architectures can be achieved.
@和平和平-c4i
@和平和平-c4i 6 жыл бұрын
Photonics could replace the actual processor technology but the title is really misleading since photonics also uses silicon. Molybden is way too expensive and silicon is by far the most present chemical element in the lithosphere (after oxygen of course). The point is no more to shrink the lithography, it is to replace the actual kind of chip for another one and photonics could be one of them.
@meajur
@meajur 6 жыл бұрын
I once worked at a silicon wafer factory (edge rounder, acid etcher, lapper, polisher, and inspector). I'm not sorry to see it go.
@thishadowithin
@thishadowithin 6 жыл бұрын
When we get advanced quantum computing can we focus on the more important matters like creating a RPO (Ready Player One) game??
@sparksthe_pegasus3978
@sparksthe_pegasus3978 6 жыл бұрын
The Gate Drain Source architecture is actually that of a CMOS transistor or (Crystalline Metal Oxide Semiconductor) whereas, modern chips use Silicon! and the three pins are actually named the Emitter, the Base, and the Collector! More than that, the individual Logic gates are actually constructed in such a way that throws the basic transistor out the window, and is much more complex... not to mention the way they are put in a matrix together... but that's getting a bit off topic... main point: we use Silicon today! not CMOS variants!
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