THIS IS THE NEW BEST CLASS? DDO TIER LIST U61

[@nocturnalnik]

the way u say archetypes really gets me LOL

[@etcbutters3657]

Do not bully my friend.

[@nocturnalnik]

@@etcbutters3657 he’s my friend too lmao.

[@theophrastusbomblastus821]

IMO, DDO is too complex, the customization is too deep for tier listing.

[@Tyevic]

Alchemist is the swiss army knife of DDO. So many builds that are very effective. S tier for sure.

[@madatorego3332]

alchemist S tier rest D tier, thanks for coming to my ted talk

[@thebuffman5597]

I swear i started out a barbarian and now it somehow managed well into alchemist anyway xd (the prr bonus is insanse for a short boost in tankiness, basically a 10 sec tank dps)

[@zxzel4032]

Druid Go Brr

[@nocturnalnik]

apparently

[@aciarduce]

Cold Drood go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@aciarduce]

Alchemist is the least played class for sure. Before 6 it's painful. After 6 it's S-class for sure. I hadn't realized you could butt throw potions, but I really don't see how THAT is what takes it from C to B...when the output on it is ridiculous, even if it falls off a bit in epics. Idk, maybe A is fine after all? Bard is at least an A. With the nerf to Sonic Blast, it was a little annoying, but if you aren't going Swash, the archetype makes up for it in spades. The buffs it gives makes everything easier, even in epics. And the melee buffs from Warchanter are always around as well. Plus the damage and healing it can put out simply through SLA's is very respectable now. Fighter and Monk, I want to say are a little too high. Perhaps low A or high B. They are fine, and Monk is one of my most favorite classes, but I always feel like they need more than what they offer, even if the damage can be stacked somewhat.

[@internet_tough_guy_]

Hey Kyrr thanks for these guides and tips I just started playing and there is to much stuff.

[@oytunortayli]

Cleric’s being on tier list B is very funny.

[@Kyrrehk]

How so, they're one of the best healers in the game. Their insta kills are very strong and they have very good blends with certain trees such as Time stop from magus

[@oytunortayli]

I was trying to say that B is a low tier for cleric. They are very fast killers up until late epics and they always have pretty good PRR/MRR all the way to the end. And I am only talking about pure clerics.@@Kyrrehk

[@Kyrrehk]

@@oytunortayli Ah, thought you were one to say it's too high lol

[@senanur1983]

Can you please create a rank list for endgame raiding (LH - R5) and R10 quests? Levelling is a joke with people zerging through r1 you can just reach level 20 in 8-10 hours of playtime.

[@JK-pp2xl]

Rogue - D, FVS - D - Both classes are done better by another class.

[@zploosh]

Alch superiority

[@Kyrrehk]

I like your videos, but stand by my decision!

[@Magiacally_Delicious_Spud]

I agree with most and at end games levels sure, but I absolutely disagree with Arti primarily because you stated its a slow leveler. Played as a repeater build for heroic leveling I find it ridiculously fast for solo leveling. No where near as fast as FvS or Sorc but definitely faster than a barbarian. It falls off big time in epic levels tho. Good list otherwise

[@Magiacally_Delicious_Spud]

In saying that I would probably only bump it up one tier because heroic levels are so temporary it doesn't make a huge difference but its so poor later on.

[@Kyrrehk]

Thank you for your input and feedback. I let my rankings stand as a personal experience with every individual class, not just counting heroic leveling but also attributing to the end game scene as well. I think Artificer leveling isn't slow, but isn't very fast. Blast Rod definitelys helps but has some back up spells as previously mentioned like Positive Energy Infusion and Prismatic Strike, both of which are absolutely strong. However, the intended Epic Destiny for Artificer helped lose points because it's special feature, Rune Arms are generally available to everyone at level 20 now. As someone who has also leveled each class, barbarian is absolutely the third best class to level in the game, it's wide crit profile, sprint boost, and very high strikethrough and damage output let's it cruise through leveling like it's no joke. Especially combined with druid and running bear, it's absurd and probably the best melee leveling style. I plan to make a video in the future in regards to speed leveling, because everyone needs past lives done and even with IPS, I strongly disagree that artificer beats barbarian. I always love reading these comments, so thank you for posting. You aren't the only one that thinks Artificer should be a rank higher. Respectfully, Kyrr.

[@Magiacally_Delicious_Spud]

@@Kyrrehk I'd be interested to see the video on speed leveling. Personally I find FvS the better for speed leveling but at that I duo with a guy who runs fire sorc and we do be neck and neck ill admit sorc clearly out powers it but not to him lol I've run druid/barb bear several lives and I do enjoy it but celestial bombardment is just too satisfying! I play FvS as an AoV nuker, only healing I carry is close wounds and Heal and rarely have to use it the class spoils me.

[@Kyrrehk]

@@Magiacally_Delicious_Spud I know the feeling of the satisfaction from certain spells. I'm a very satisfied person from freezing mobs and slaying them, that shattering ice effect makes me happy. I know some others have posted videos about speed leveling or zerging. It's just going to take time to get a lot of my information correct and useful in order to put into a video, so it's probably not going to be done anytime soon but it's definitely one of my projects I'm working on.

[@Troka-O.Boy07]

so nothing got put on D, which I find a bit funny. are you comparing them somewhat to how the old versions were or comparing them with each other to how they are now a days?

[@Kyrrehk]

So, that's a very good question. I think very much over time from my original tier list (now unlisted) because over time they vastly improved the classes and their versatility. Obviously, a lot more improvements to go-but they've just done a lot of QoL and more to come. It has improved the classes vastly. I guess I'm comparing them to very old versions from 2020. Vastly improved from Arti and Wizard in F tier, and cleric being in D tier.

[@Ghosty2004]

🔥🔥

[@gewooncas8118]

Roar

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

Alchemist is better dps than druid and most op caster of them all.

[@Kyrrehk]

And that is your opinion :)

[@ConradDunkerson]

First, a guide to pronunciation; ark-uh-type not arch-eh-type a-paws-tate not app-us-tate Also, Artificer is unquestionably stronger than Rogue or (solo) Bard at this point. Six points in Macrotechnic lets you maximize/empower/intensify your rune arm blasts (still at zero spell points). Two more lets you keep Vengeance Reapers bottled up until everything else has been killed. That's all you need. Other stuff in the tree is 'nice', but there are better options (e.g. Shiradi or Draconic).

[@sarmanddo935]

Hi Conrad! If we are going to get technical here, apostrophes should never be used for emphasis. Therefore your use of 'nice', should be "nice," - notice how the comma is inside of the quotation marks and not after. Valid points on the game though, keep it up! 👍🏻

[@ConradDunkerson]

@@sarmanddo935 Hello. The apostrophe style I employed is called "scare quotes", and is indeed a recognized (though obviously not universally accepted) method of emphasizing particular words or phrases. Usually, with a sub-context of implying that the word chosen is imprecise. It has been fairly common in England for the better part of a century, but usage has increased greatly in the past few decades as a result of informal internet conversations searching for better ways to imbue text based communication with the nuances of speech. Similarly, the convention that says you should place punctuation for the containing sentence inside of quotation marks for "neatness" was first introduced in the US and remains primarily restricted to this country. I deliberately ignore it in favor of the more common standard of NOT adulterating the quotation by adding punctuation that wasn't present in the original. Basically, the punctuation standards taught in US schools are not universal amongst English speaking countries... and all such standards have been undergoing stress and change with the explosion of text based communication caused by the internet.