What Destiny 2 Looked Like in 2017...

[@ShadowDestiny2]

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[@KOD504]

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[@KOD504]

Your subscriber from start of this and the third channel

[@KOD504]

Well also how can I play with you

[@centrevezgaming4862]

The most rewarding public event in destiny two history gives you two tokens and a blue. Looking at you curse of Osiris DLC.

[@centrevezgaming4862]

@@KOD504 Ahoy my matey

[@DarkCyberUK]

That honeymoon period of D2 launch was wild, I remember everyone just running around in circles on Titan, before stopping once the campaign and levelling was done, realising we actually had nothing to do anymore

[@ianquinn6814]

Yeah, i am still in awe that i stayed on through this to today

[@duckspy436]

Honestly it was insane.. The campaign was actually fire I cannot lie

[@YungSnoopy]

I literally lived on IO 😂

[@universpro7741]

Raids

[@dinckelman]

Them attempting to turn destiny into an e-sport almost killed it right away

[@pecador_tor]

everyone already plays like they're in e-sports anyways 🗿

[@jasonhernandez730]

Here’s a fun fact too about the Eververse store back then they were teetering closer to P2W since you could buy the blue damage mods for your weapons. Then take them to Amanda and turn them into legendary for the extra 5 attack boost.

[@Meowow55iscat]

God I can’t believe we used to have Subclass trees and limited primary ammo

[@lonecalzone6901]

and that only changed 2 years ago

[@caseyroether8196]

Yea they had limited primary ammo in destiny 1 as well bud

[@LateNightHalo]

Limited primary ammo is fine. Forced you to move about the battlefield more.

[@RicardoGarcia-rp9pw]

​​@@caseyroether8196 D1 also had ammo synthesis though

[@genrali]

Dang I started 2018-2019

[@spoiledsalad1851]

It’s kinda hilarious when new players or old players try to argue that destiny 2 on launch was good. As a OG Destiny 1 player jumping from rise of iron and taken king to diluted destiny 2 was horrible. Thank you for reminding players how bad the systems were changed.

[@J0Nramirez]

D2 Y1 is shameful. Lol. Bungie has fixed a lot since then, but I still do not understand why certain elements of the original Destiny remain left behind (Planets, verbage, characters, special locations like the original Lighthouse, etc).

[@NoSmoke1]

They changed things just to change it. I still wish we could have had a real Destiny 3 instead of building off of the base that was D2

[@pecador_tor]

wdym by verbage

[@J0Nramirez]

@@pecador_tor I mean Bungie had certain words for perks/abilities in D1 that they abandoned for synonyms. Things like, "Kill Clip" instead of "Reactive Reload". You can also see it in words used in the subclass tress. It is REALLY odd and they never acknowledged it.

[@BrooksSimonton]

I just returned right before TFS.......Now I cant stop

[@ryan6766]

same but im bored already

[@activistisgud3671]

@@ryan6766gotta do some raids if you haven’t yet

[@makingacomment]

@@ryan6766dude grinded way too much too quick. 😂

[@pluse697]

@@makingacommentsame only content I haven’t done now are raids finding a team for that seems like cancer doing grand master with randoms is as hard as it is💀

[@lchasel7339]

@@pluse697 i thought this way too before lfging my first time, it isnt as bad as you think and its super fun to do endgame content :)

[@MrMetalMan]

Man, vanilla Destiny 2 really had some absurd systems. I remember liking the campaign when it came out, but the lack of endgame and gear chase drove me away until the season of Opulence. The game itself is in such a great state right now though (eh, maybe not Bungie though)

[@gabrielquintero2861]

Right… it’s finally everything we hoped for tbh but now it’s at the end of its life cycle. D2 has just been a long history of too little, too late

[@pecador_tor]

the game has a nice face right now yeah, TFS was pretty good, the story is forgettable though, if everything stayed in the game then yeah it'd be a great game

[@Klaxir]

I remember grinding all the Crucible and Faction ornaments in Curse of Osiris and Warmind…. What a waste looking back now lol.

[@scottricks1676]

Tho I will say that 1st mission was fun af!

[@scottricks1676]

That slow walk when you had your light stripped was epic.

[@duckspy436]

@@scottricks1676 with that heart wrenching string section making all grown men and women cry their brains out

[@scottricks1676]

@@duckspy436 dude I absolutely agree! That part kinda got me ngl.

[@realfake6669]

Small mistake, you said there was no weapon with more than one perk, which is not entirely correct The Leviathan weapons had 2 normal perks but were missing a barrel or magazine perk

[@OsirisTheRaptor]

There is a very specific reason why the guided games was never used. And that was that you had to spend a ridiculous amount of this one specific item. And you could only use it a limited amount of times! I didn't know that people didn't used them until I had wait 5 and half hours and realised no one was coming.

[@GhostChild808]

I was there from the beginning. I still remembered it all. It was good for awhile but it got bad later on. It was only until I left after Warminds and somewhat returned midway thru Forsaken and I was on and off thru the other seasons and DLCs. I fully returned when TFS dropped, just for one last fight to end my time in Destiny altogether. But nope, I still come back to the game and just play for the seasonal stories. I still have my record for Trials of the Nine wins, just 5 wins. It's still on my account (Hunter main).

[@Senriam]

I’m in almost the exact same boat, which is kinda freaky. I only got the final shape so that I could give the franchise the sendoff that it deserved for giving me thousands of hours of fun over a decade. It pulled me right back in. I hope that all this tumult doesn’t cause the game to die, because it genuinely means too much to me.

[@rainztk]

People say they miss the red war era but year 1 D2 literally almost killed the franchise lol

[@DiguisedDog]

Rose tinted glasses 😂

[@youraveragehotdog6836]

It wasn't a bad game it just was a watered down version of destiny 1 because execs thought that making the game casual focused was gonna make them more money. I do miss it too ngl the game was younger and despite the bad launch full of promise still, I had more fun then compared to the last few dlcs but oh well can only enjoy a game so long ig

[@cyd_hunter99]

​@@youraveragehotdog6836 it literally WAS a bad fucking game dude

[@youraveragehotdog6836]

@cyd_hunter99 no it wasn't at all. It was still one of the best shooters of all time, quit smoking copium but the game isn't a million times better now, it is better but not by that much

[@rockl79]

I think its more people miss the story than the actual era. I honestly think the story itself is better than most of the ones currently in destiny (ie shadowkeep, BL, lightfall). I remember people flat out saying the story was great, and datto even went as far as saying that it was better than anything in destiny 1. the problem is people wanted more destiny, and it wasnt even close to destiny, it was a completely different game.

[@zackphy]

Another thing missing from D1 was LMGs, they didn't show up until Festival of the Lost 2018 during Forsaken with the Thunderlord quest, theb Hammerhead, the first legendary, came the next season in Black Armory. The breach launchers were alongside the drum ones competing for a slit despite being worse in every conceivable way except in pvp, where after a huge buff you'd you like 8 shots from 1 brick that had HUGE 1 shot blast radius and could be banked around corners and detonated when you wanted.

[@IceColdKillaTrav]

It was bad, all of my old clan mates quit when D2 dropped.

[@nittani.]

I never stopped playing each day this is making me feel old

[@centrevezgaming4862]

Caydes stashes was my favorite activity to do every reset but the flashpoints on certain destinations like titan was way too easy all you needed to do was spam public events and you were done for the rest of the week until the following week. And nobody was doing adventures after completing them on normal so they were pointless and wasted on resources.

[@BJKAI69]

D2 was a shell of its former self. Horribly long cooldowns, and ammo drops were so scarce. I bought it on release and stopped playing a couple weeks later, along with most of my clan and friends.

[@Kopester]

Story was good, gameplay was the worst of any game and didn’t even deserve the name Destiny

[@sonsofmothers]

Warmind doesnt get talked about enough in Destiny 2's history. The game just wasnt fun to play and the had Escalation Protocol, Ikelos Weapons, and halfway throigh between Warmind and Forsaken they did a TON of buffs. Exotic weapons and armors changed (graviton lance, sunbracers, sunshot, tractor cannon, etc), they buffed ability and super regen, added power scaling, etc. Warmind ran so Forsaken could sprint.

[@Kulabaluka]

Don't forget that there are exotic ornaments behind each separate faction progression that are unobtainable to this day.

[@silent6723]

Yep. No random rolls is what finally made me quit. Though Forsaken was right around the corner for me at the time it was too little too late. Wasn't until mid Witch Queen when I finally came back for good.

[@universpro7741]

I wish they brought back that mysterious feeling the red war campaign had with you running under the rain between spaceship parts next to a particle accelerator

[@billy30378]

I was an hardcore D1 player when D2 came out and was very excited about the new Destiny game...until I started to play it and saw that it was not all what I expected or hoped for! I went back to D1 for at least another year before finally trying D2 again and have now been with it ever since...yes it was a bad start for it but I guess they did right the ship in late 2018!🤔👌

[@Mantis_AB]

Variks: They have taken away half of the planets you paid for Guardian, bring them back yessss!

[@FEDsShotMOM]

The reliance on double primarys is why i distinctly remember always having my favorite double auto rifles on me at all times, scathelock and solemn hymn. I still have them

[@StaySqueezy12]

What is crazy is for the first 2 weeks, D2 was being praised so heavily lol. Then people realized there was no endgame

[@krunchyapples]

Aaah, memories. I still have alot of the original season 1 stuff in my vault

[@SPARTAN_Cayde-26]

Well to be honest D2 in 2017 was much more casual and simple to play and you did not need to make it a job like nowadays. It was easier for people who had like only 1-3 hours to play daily after work. Nowadays it is feels like you need to make D2 your job to be good at it and get nice loot.

[@MrGarryGrey]

Remember the first Solstice of Heroes? It had Legendary Red War missions! Was pretty tough for a new light me (or maybe hard in general?) with no good gear. It only had few missions (one for each armor piece, I think), but still cool. Removing Red War entirely was a mistake, it's a good campaign for new players.

[@Matthew1234-5]

Was crazy is i miss the ability cooldown from year one. And trace rifles being primary weapons. And the 4v4 game mode in pvp. Made balanced matchmaking easier and helped in low population times.

[@MichaelEilers]

It’s like the PVP team were in charge of the entire project

[@oots4790]

I only started playing the game right before lightfall dropped, and I have legitimately regretted how much of this game I've missed. Honestly... im not the most patient gamer at times, if I'd have played back on 2017 I don't think I'd have stuck with it. Makes me feel less bad about all the time I've missed lol.

[@rafaelleon115]

Ive been around since destiny 1 back when it first came out 10 years ago. It was very different at that time there wasn't much to do once one was done with the campaign. The multiplayer was amazing but over it felt more bored, personally I lasted longer playing Call of duty. Also, it was much harder to obtain exotics back in Destiny 1 in 2014-2015. I would gain maybe 1 exotic every month. And obtaining legendary gear was as hard as getting exotics in today's D2 2024. Most of the guns were either green (common) and blue (rare) at that time and planet vegetation pieces could be consumed and used as currency and it was quite common back then but it was completely forgotten about and replaced over the years. Still playing Destiny 2

[@pig675]

ahhh yess the red war campaign i used to love that thing this brings back a lot of memories

[@Giantspaz]

The worst part of Trials of the Nine was the equipment lock. So you couldn't adapt to what the other team was doing. It was really frustrating running into a whole team of Midas and you couldn't switch to your own to counter.

[@zackphy]

You didn't mention the way you aquired the kinetic legendary mod. The energy ones could be bought from the Gunsmith, whereas the Kinetic ones had to be obtained by basically gambling. You had to turn in a few of the blues(I think 4, but it's been 7 years, so maybe I'm wrong) and get a random one hoping it was kinetic.

[@mrthomas03]

I left right when the 1st raid was released. I attempted to come back last year but it was too different and each time I logged in I was thrown in a different mission so I quit bc it was very confusion. It left me lost. I think I'm back now for good though after going through your videos and having a friend help.

[@iPeekTwice]

Wowwwwwww these old PvP maps lol. I haven't seen these in so long, I forgot they existed

[@RReapermann]

I played d1 since its release, when D2 came no machine guns and 6v6 pvp gone, i returned to destiny when forsaken released with thunderlord and 6v6 pvp.

[@ToaDrakua]

I kind of miss Flashpoints as a concept, and wish they had evolved into something more akin to The Pale Heart's Overthrow activity in The Final Shape. It would have given them so much more depth, especially if a final boss for each Flashpoint took place in some of the less used areas of each location.

[@zacadelix_tv]

Hey shadow! This is a long shot and I have no idea if you’ll ever see this but I’d love to interview you about your Destiny/youtube career. I’ve been watching you for years and just recently got into content creation myself and I really want to explore the Destiny community and how people got their start and what makes them log in everyday so if you interested feel free to reach out!

[@KuroStrawberryX]

I used to love public events 🤷🏾‍♂️ lol. It was always fun to team up with a few strangers and complete something.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

Talk about a trip down memory lane, i was in my second year of highschool i think when all of this was going on in the game. When were randomized perks brought back as well, Forsaken era or Warmind era? My memory isn't as great so I actually can't remember

[@Viralsome]

As someone as who played 80-90% PvP, I couldn't understand why people said the launch was horrific. But this gives me a much better perspective on that.

[@TargetSniper365]

Glad to see some good Destiny videos. All of this overblown doom and gloom is exhausting. People need to realize this crap happens every year and it’s always fine.

[@drakewicker2999]

Yea it’s getting old lol

[@Jonyi100]

i started to play destiny with the launch of destiny 2. As a new player it was realy fun. 1 system i remember was realy good and taht was the upgrade system to make equipment stronger. you didnt need upgrade mods to upgrades your gear. every legendary and exotic items gave after dismantling so called legendary shard´s. im sure they had no cap because i never reached it. and you coud use this shards to upgrade your gear out of stuf you got 4-6 shards and for an upgrade you needed 10.

[@DomDomPop]

I think a lot of the people saying that a fresh start in a new game wouldn’t be so bad have zero clue just how awful the combination of “huge screwup of every good part of the formula” and “also you lose all your shit from the last 3 years” was. It was a truly baffling trail down the path of “what would make things easier for us to make and balance” rather than “what would actually make things fun for the player”. Just baffling.

[@rc08zzr600]

I’ve been playing almost everyday for years but for some reason lately I don’t feel like playing much. Idk if it’s all the crazy news lately but my hope for the future of the game is shot and it feels pointless to keep playing.

[@YungSnoopy]

The Red War Map made my eye twitch. I swear they don’t know how the struggle was then

[@Mediocre_warlock90]

Man I have never been on a raid and now with raid report I never find anyone willing to take me. How awesome would it have been if vet players would want to pursue a shader only available from the fireteam finder, after taking someone that never raided before on one. What a cool interesting way to offer incentives for sherpa raids

[@wockboi1999]

I got you bro what system you play on

[@Probelx]

I never got to play destiny 2 when it was released but I do wish we at least still have the red war campaign that is the only thing that I absolutely loved. That's the whole reason I played destiny 1 was for the story it had me hooked

[@MoSco5000]

4:20 speaking of damage type mods.. I still have void, arc, and solar inaugural address and curtain calls in my vault lmfao.

[@juanduarte9714]

Holy shit this game was so boring at launch, idk how stuck with it until it got better with Forsaken. But I’m glad I did because I’ve haven’t stopped playing since. Destiny 2 is definitely one my favorite games of all times.

[@detersin]

I stopped playing for over a year after some friends and I found we had nothing to do after the first raid. Even the exotic wasn't worth it. I don't regret it, I had so much more fun playing BF1

[@DeadlyDragon935]

Saying that leviathan was considered worse than d1 raids is wild to me I feel like thats only because of the double primary situation I still consider leviathan one of the best raids they released.

[@cjtquk]

I remember how slow the D2 beta felt and that had me worried once the full game was out. It really was a downgrade from the final year od D1. Most people I played with quit during Season 1 and 2. Season 3 was a little better but Forsaken is what D2 should have been on day one.

[@lumialight8305]

it feels weird to be playing a game that is on the brink of extinction once again. But this time around, i do not think the ball is in bungie's court. The game has grown old and stail. We've essentially seen a game be born in 2017 and watched it grow up to get old enough to be on its deathbed. And whereas bungie is holding onto life support, it feels like many members of our community have already turned our backs on destiny. I guess it's the natural order of things. All i can say is: thank you destiny for all the hours of enjoyment you've given me. And i'll continue to enjoy my time with you until the end is here.

[@sleepykupo9990]

The one thing I did like about vanilla was the 4v4 and scopes also also maps vanilla maps were great

[@universpro7741]

I prefer having everything unlocked and getting better at pvp than an endless grind

[@austint.9943]

I miss the old orb generation system so bad. Should have never been changed. I have having to mod around the weapons I want to use

[@nrkurbanspawn4391]

I've been dipping in since day one D1 bought all DLC and season pass but yeah always comming back and still on!

[@jyeturk7]

I quit D2 between redwar and Beyond light because the game felt like they sold us a very unfinished product and everything was a chore to play.

[@iLLWiLLx21]

I remember quitting soon after Trials of the 9 released. There was no point to the game in pve or pvp

[@hispanic88]

We got spoiled with rise of iron and moment of triumph at the end of D1. Vanilla D2 was terrible but looking back my clan still played a lot back then compared to now.

[@K1ngSlay3r_YT]

I think this will be one of the few times I am grateful I started way late in destiny. Cause this seems like hell

[@Carweizer]

It was at that point of micro transactions dilemma (7:48 -8:04) was when I had enough along with other issues in D2, is when I walked away and was part of the dropping statistic of the time, Dec. 2018

[@VisioMaxxx]

I used to play Apex legends since it came out. With the game getting worse and worse, I switched to destiny last year. Now that I see how much it has improve over the years, shows me that even with battlepasses and such, you can show the community you want to give them a better experience. Unlike EA and Respawn, who are constantly shitting on their community. Im glad I changed games.

[@trondeaf]

Half of us were still playing OG Destiny the first couple of years of D2. Also the mida scout meta in the crucible was ass

[@pecador_tor]

no crimson days... no weapon sights... no masks on your helmet ornaments... no haunted forest...

[@IIStasisII]

As a day one Destiny 2 player, the game SUCKED for the first 2 years of the game. This is coming from a casual player who never played a raid in D1, now D2 is alot better but still needs a lot of work. Prismatic is power creeping every other subclass and the other subclasses need a buff really badly (especially arc).

[@rockl79]

as someone who didnt play d1 and just got dropped into the game during the time it went free for a weekend in warmind, I honestly really enjoyed it

[@eliass._.0]

I had recently came back to the game due to a friend and I had seen that most of my gear perks were all gone and had slot that had a cross on them with saying the title of said perk but now have nothing on them . I had a good exotic that u thought was great before with great stats rolls and since it was a older helmet the perk were wasted since I could not change it with the new system which sucks :)

[@universpro7741]

You complain about having to do the same activity over and over but the only thing that has changed is that you have many activities to do over and over in events, for missions, and catalysts

[@darkss8758]

ah im gonna miss vids like this

[@Peridarth]

This is why I am always flabbergasted at how many people are crying for Destiny 3. It's honestly a miracle that this series survived two terrible launches, there's absolutely no way it would survive a third. And it would absolutely be a catastrophic launch. Look at the tremendous drop in the amount of things to do from D1 to D2 and imagine going from All of the stuff we have in D2 to an amount similar to vanilla D2

[@baransevim3969]

I had no idea Shadow Destiny had a jaw chiseled by the gods

[@Rhukzy]

I played at release, and after a few days of Curse of Osiris I quit. Came back at WQ and played 3000h since.

[@mariomario7379]

I still don’t miss this game. Forsaken was peak D2. It went downhill afterwards, although witch queen was cool.

[@orionfrost]

My friends and I use to refer to playing D2 as "Token farm" 😅

[@scottricks1676]

I remember hitting d2 the day it dropped and it felt so….cold and empty.

[@Harrythe1st]

I started playing on pc when it was on blizzard, just after forsaken, gotta say I wont set my foot on Lightfall area or care to see nimbus never again

[@claytonmitchell5685]

A lot of the stuff in here was stuff I got sick of over time. But nothing made me more upset at launch than double primaries and single use shaders

[@Ziek]

I stopped playing at this time and im looking to get back into it i just hope i can play without having to buy dlcs because i remember you were cut off from the new stuff if you didnt pay

[@budahboy1996]

i really miss these days 😔

[@saverofthehumens]

You mean content *theft?* Now, we still don't have a truly cohesive *BASE CAMPAIGN* for free players in particular. If you were to tie all campaigns we have together it's still a totally disjointed pile of islands of content, separate and segregated.

[@AlexBeveridge-t8i]

We tried to stop a second collapse… but the devs had other plans..

[@Joos2000]

Great vid, thanks for the history lesson.

[@oidana]

I Always Like Destiny 2 even When it comes out, of course over the next 2 or 3 Expansions i come back from time to time and a lot of changes are very nice. But know the game is just overloaded and the most of the time i just upgrade the gear or take higher GS gear and change it to get fast to 2000. I like to play solo and make DLC story missions and have just fun when the kids are sleeping for 2-3 Hours. For this the game have so mutch content even when you run some dungeons or try to find a group and make some raids. I dont know what Destiny2 Really atm is but for me its just a solo loot shooter, where the developers forget to rework everything on the UI stats and other stuff before the put more stuff inside of it. World of Warcraft need 10 Years to before the revamp a lot of stuff. But for the better because now new players find fast inside of the game and the Complexitiy on max level. I hope Destiny3 with a new Engine Graphicl Upgrade and a Complete Rework on Story Writing and what dont work or makes no sense the remove and make a good game :( but for now we need to hope and wait because it looks atm more like Bungie let Destiny2 run for the next 10 Years xD and doing the same stuff everytime but i guess the game dies then really fast when the not change anything in the next 2 years.

[@benedixtify]

But the current Engrams are the same as how you described tokens

[@itchyisvegeta]

Vanilla Destiny 2 sucked, but the campaign was fun, and the 60fps on my PC was a nice upgrade. Other than that, after beating the campaign, id rather go back to Destiny 1. Problem with Destiny 1 is they eliminated the cross platform progression between 360/One or PS3/PS4, which we totally utalized in our house. Once that was done, Destiny stopped getting my play time and money. So I played Halo MCC instead that sorta got patched enough at the time to enjoy it more than Destiny.

[@alesztra937]

I just started playing D2 after not having played since it first became free on the store. Am a bit sad that I didn’t get to experience the full campaign past the Red War. It’s a shame Bungie chose to “vault” all that content. Really that’s the only thing I really have a gripe about. Bungie just removing paid content lol

[@eclipsos8187]

Players who started with with d2 think year 1 d2 was the golden age. D1 players: d2 has been an almost constant shitshow from the beginning. D1 literally started getting to big and it made sense to start a new game they brought actvision in and now not only is the game shit but the company is to. I bet 90% of d1 players think the partnership with activison was the "infection" bungie was never the same again.

[@rockl79]

This is what ive really been saying for years. I started during warmind and I really enjoyed it. It had a basic introduction and the simplified systems made it easy to just select what you wanted and go. Years later after BL launched and I quit the game for a while, I went back and tried d1 and it wasnt until then that I really understood why people thought the game was complete garbage and they thought it deserved to be deleted. Its such a vast difference between the original game and the second one that was supposed to be a sequel.

[@dirtyharry205]

I hated running out of ammo because I failed to reload😮

[@reddo7451]

Plss, could You do this with the other expansions and years of the game??

[@ceasze5072]

In all fairness the old map looks WAY better than the boring shiny map we have now

[@rockl79]

I really hate the current director... it takes elements from d1 but it looks so off without everything else having real detail.

[@ryanator7935]

I hate the term content vault so much. Like can we stop pretending that they are holding the content for future release? It’s been years since Red War and Leviathan, as of now they show no plans to return them. We should just say it as is, Bungie took away the content.

[@truebacon133]

All the settings options but still unable to turn off Aim Acceleration on console 😑

[@vismortis]

Yet Paul keeps screaming in articles that we are the lowest player count currently or the last season of last year even when Bungie and Warmind have said he is very wrong

[@derbestimmer1148]

The current Build system is terrible. The conundrum of Seasonal Artifact, Mods, Fragments, Aspects, weapon perks, stats, all littered over several screens is just crap.

[@davidneraas750]

Your next video should be titled the sad truth about bungie in 2024;).