this is what makes WOTLK arena BORING! after 2 weeks

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[@kuyt3400]

I see your point. Rogue / Mage is obnoxious and boring.

[@RenonTTV]

its like the only duo that isnt just DPS racing lol

[@kevinneparidze3973]

What? Lol said no one ever. All true pvp ers agree that rogue/mage is the hardest and the same time most fun comp

[@Coombi93]

Yet to hear anyone say how fun rogue mage is.... everyone thinks it's boring

[@kevinneparidze3973]

rogue/mage 2s is boring and war/pala , dk/pala is fun? :DD@@Coombi93

[@MrTroxism]

Rogue mage is super fun ... what?

[@willjohnson8740]

You're right mage/rogue is what makes arena boring

[@Zygzik]

This is what you feel when u play this game for 12h a day

[@Scottysaweet]

i would stop feeling anything at that point.

[@johnotanez2746]

hey whats the addon that shows how long someone is in CC for and whats showing your deminishing returns on top of name plates?

[@Demonfridge1]

After TBC I will never feel sorry for rogue/mage getting trashed by a OP comp.

[@nexyo118]

And maybe in Wotlk u have same Comp in many Games but Retail every Class is the same so it dont matter what u fight

[@rickroll9705]

@@nexyo118 delusional lol.

[@Shotzno]

@@nexyo118 yeah but it kinda ruined the game too because in the name of balancing they made it pointless to even choose a class essentially. However when one class is OP asf that’s pretty annoying too or to have 1 class that always beats u when you try to PvP them. Wotlk is much more balanced atleast u have a chance.

[@gg025]

as much as i hated TBC RM and RMP at least it takes setup and coordination to do well. i hate wrath war/pal, dk/pal, and preg comps way more.

[@tonederf6419]

@@gg025 preg comps zug zug unless they're played at the very top level of skill, where the preg plays much closer to how holy plays. its kinda wild how different r1 pregs plays to us normal plebs

[@angelivan88]

4:21 WTF Pshero showing a emotion besides sniff? unbelievable

[@krispy3790]

wym? this guy is constantly depressed and miserable those are emotions

[@andreasorfanou5970]

Can somebody tell me what addon his arena unitframes are? For his enemies i mean. Is it gladdy or gladiusex? Or is it something else?

[@ProSkilllz]

Can someone please tell me the addon pshere uses for the arena countdown before the gate opens

[@Erati243]

I assume your title is talking about the bullshit 15-20 second chain cc's that your team is able to do as mage/rogue?

[@idkidgaf]

skill issue

[@timothy9752]

pshero do you have a link to your spec?

[@soyoscarsanchez4512]

can some 1 tell me what´s the name of the war´s mount? 1:44

[@hasepase]

can you buy the weapons with 2v2 rating in wotlk classic?

[@randymoss7233]

Yes

[@edmontonlivermoore4935]

Finding arena partners feels a lot harder than it did last year.

[@Mammel248]

It's because wotlk arena is trash compared to tbc arena xd people don't enjoy playing it so they don't play it

[@Tucnacicek]

@@Mammel248 Why is that?

[@Mammel248]

@@Tucnacicek well for example I play sub Rogue with good gear (ulduar HM weapons, 40% ARP and with trinket proc 95% ARP) and I can kill a pvp geared mage in, no joke, 2 ambushes and 1 eviscerate.. warlocks and ele shamans kill people in 2 globals, if a warrior connects to your healer he will kill it in 10 seconds if your healer is a shaman or priest and there's so many more examples of how unbalanced wotlk pvp is

[@Tucnacicek]

@@Mammel248 Ah, that sucks

[@shadowandreality]

​@@Tucnacicek That is why you play 3v3 in arena. Plenty of options there.

[@lovehurt6741]

What addon is that he uses like Gladius?

[@JohnDoe-lc3sc]

Spellcleaves ? Replace spellcleaves with thundercleave and you got an accurate representation of modern wotlk arena tournaments

[@lukasmarx5264]

11:01 The shadowstep into gouge on paladin, sheep on warrior into dance on paladin *gasp*

[@zayon0170]

nothing crazy bout it tbh, ita the base strats vs that comp, lol

[@krispy3790]

if youre impressed by that you are hard stuck at like 1200 or something lol

[@PigmarDengar]

Why discredit plus that seems fun sure it's low rated but who cares

[@TheSorsastaja187]

@@PigmarDengar Those 2 guys/girls represents the reason why wow is ruined these days

[@jorgen3662]

virgin@@krispy3790

[@YeIsCorrect]

babes whats dr on name plates addon called? i need it so bad in my hole

[@issam3546]

sick play man hilarious bit at the end

[@urosobradovic6579]

hey guys, how does he setup his gladius like this?

[@m00rtin4]

what were the paladin and warrior doing in the first game?????

[@idkidgaf]

Trying to bait opener from rogue.

[@Maxi_7017]

Awesome❤

[@joseluispalmeras9414]

Can u share ur addons please?? Many addons for the ild wotlk are bugged for those whom play on bot oficial servers. Thanks a Lot

[@alexanderfiedorov925]

Funny thing how things change from one another. For me what makes arena extremely boring is fights going longer than 3-4 minutes, for example i hate 2v2 arena with healers, healers shouldn't be allowed in this shit, when i'm full BiS on my character and an 2v2 arena pops up with a healer i immediatly quit since i don't care about ratings and points... Nowadays healers in 2v2 are so meta (back in the time it was quite rare to see a healer in 2v2) that i'm actually prefering going full BG for PvP.

[@djordjemaletic9833]

I see nothing boring here 😂

[@yaneck4746]

i think the fact that resto druid and resto shaman are irrelevent atm really brings down variability at the higher mmr's. hopefull in s2 something changes so you dont this pala and x-class every game. the burnout is totally understandable.

[@LowerYourExpectationsPleb]

It will be r/m/p during the entire expansion

[@dayoftherope1690]

@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb rmp loses to spell cleave everytime lol

[@brewsterway3730]

Once the healing legendary + haste continues to bump it will improve rdruid and rsham viability.

[@ricardo8268]

Kinda frustrating how they only released x patch with low effort. People had plenty of time to grind up OP classes,read paladin, because solved meta. Not even class rebalancing

[@Aesthetic_psihodelija]

Rls, lsp, thunder cleave>rmp

[@user-ny3fu1uv7h]

that shadow dance kite onto paladin was sick, you've made that warrior leave

[@danielclow]

Disarm works on feral druid? serious question xd

[@PowerWoWTV]

Yes

[@Rogmash]

hey mr rogue ;D - Forsen is forcing trinkets with his Forsen cleave - but i didnt get it - what makes it boring? u win all the time? ^^

[@MacMittens-Shorts]

Hey bro what addons are u using ?

[@MacMittens-Shorts]

And how did you get your gladius ui to look like that

[@hansbystrom9983]

Hearing mage/rogue complain in arena is rich. But please continue, your tears sustain me.

[@ryanmcfarlane7899]

Didn't watch the video? lol Who are you talking too?

[@user-zg5ew2bm7l]

Ah yes so rich since RM is OP in wotlk right? Lmao get a grip

[@hansbystrom9983]

@@user-zg5ew2bm7l I played in WotlK. I rememeber when 50% if the entire 2v2 bracket was made up by rogues and priests. It was so much mage/rogue, rogue/priest and mage/priest. Mages and rogues have been OP in this game since 2004. How many bad season for rogues can you remember? You need to get a grip if you don't realize this, lmao.

[@user-zg5ew2bm7l]

​@@hansbystrom9983 Ah now it all makes sense, you're basing your statement on your exp from the original wotlk. That's fair, but this video is on classic wotlk and if you actually play it, you'll see the meta is wildly different compared to back in the day, since people are now much better at the game and strats have evolved. I've played every season so far and almost reached glad range, the ques are 50% warpal , 40% is either disc/feral, rogue/disc (or sp) and dk/pala. The remaining 10% is different comps. Now for RM specifically, there's max 1 or 2 RMs getting glad (not even r1) every season, and I face one about once in 150 games. Both rogues and mages have much better comps to play instead currently, as mages mostly play with sp (disc is kinda trash as mage lacks damage) ironforge.pro/pvp/leaderboards/EU/2 This is a live ladder for wotlk classic, feel free to check it out if you think I'm talking nonsense

[@ZonZorZerx]

​@@hansbystrom9983You didn't watch the video then? Or are you too stupid to comprehend what he says?

[@mcwhigginout6947]

ok having to sit and wait for two minutes while they were in start like that was actually funny

[@gairtonplayspoorly5263]

Most of the time as non-stealthies its just waiting for the fucking rogue to actually open

[@breadmanfun]

@@gairtonplayspoorly5263 100%. Rogues are the worst

[@FGHZ]

its not fun at all, always have to wait for cowards to do something

[@jacobdebernardi4385]

I don't get how you guys are coordinating these switches without voice chat. Amazing stuff

[@vaels5682]

Still the mage broke blind in first game. Wasn't anything too crazy imo he largely waits stealth for mage to get poly on warr then opens

[@sdruba90]

@@vaels5682 no he didn't, he got bopped

[@vaels5682]

@@sdruba90 oh ur right, the nova didn't break it. Regardless, there are other points with blind break like in third game. Thats the kind of thing where it's nice to be in voice to communicate it

[@jzkiller420]

By looking the DRs

[@zeikki794]

I am confident they have voice chat. Pshero said "I need you to CS" and the mage counterspelled the paladin almost instantly.10:33

[@Nils727]

What server is he playing?

[@trentpa9226]

can't always be the OVERPOWERED comp that you want it to be

[@Alfoner94]

that warrior was in my old guild. I tryed to talk to him many times. I even complimented him his rating. We always ignored me XD

[@Ryanjayy549]

this is how people feel against rogues in general.

[@uziboozy4540]

BGs have always been my go to as a BM hunter. You can just obliterate people left to right.

[@vanslinger2531]

@4:25 A prime example of "All Bark No Bite". LMAO!

[@josedavidmunozmartinez4722]

I really thought Wotlk was gonna be better based on the community hype... I started playing in Cataclysm so I wanted to play Wotlk as people said it was the best expansion ever... I leveled up my char to 80, did some dungeoning and Raiding, a few BGs and arenas... but sadly I got bored very quickly, I decided to give DF a chance as I hated Shadowlands and man I'm loving it... I'm having infinitely more fun in Dragonflight than I did in Wotlk.

[@adobetube5558]

Drago Flight is a great xpac. Some folks are just stuck in nostalgia and refuse to move on.

[@turdeemi]

@@adobetube5558 Some are denialists and keep telling after every expansion "I like this expansion" and they quit after 3 months

[@kalashnikov0e]

Wait for 3.3.5 :/

[@GTJW22409]

WOTLK hasn't even started yet, the good raids and pvp are coming in P2+

[@turdeemi]

@@GTJW22409 why pvp gets better?

[@Cendazify]

why?

[@mikenorth8676]

What happened to all that paladin & warr op comp hype 👀 ?

[@cnnn6046]

That mage is really skilled as well his haste is nutty

[@peterschmid4386]

bro send me the link for the dog clip please :D

[@KristianIliev-jh7bt]

Hills of Rock T-shirt! I see you are a man of culture as well!

[@weakhandshunter]

Pshero, what about trying mutilate in higher rankings? With one of your accounts.

[@swft89]

Of course you are going to find it boring when you've only played 1 class for as long as you have and played the game for as many hours as you have xd

[@vertiguin2]

can you share ur macros? youre so good

[@christopherh6361]

DUDE ARE YOU THE GUY FROM CATFISH? THE HOST!?

[@vaertai4237]

The dog clip lmao

[@highwayno4]

No voice? Are you serious?

[@Wardeth]

Nice mage

[@Meta9871]

Maybe it's the fact that you have 30k hours and never touch grass, my guy.

[@user-pe6ct7ut8t]

Nah fam Wotlk arena has been one of the worst in terms of balancing and variety.

[@ishallneverdie2445]

Playing 2s comps that are dps+offhealer (Melee /w Caster), and playing MCH 3s comps: is fun. Playing anything else is boring (double dps 2s without an offhealer, 2s with an healer, melee cleaves, caster cleaves)

[@petkotavliev9198]

the team that beat you 2 times that you mentioned if you played with a shadowpriest by your side it was going to be different :) mage can't cant dispel the divine shield of the pala so priest is better plus the disarm

[@asdfomfglol]

sh priest and rogue is super hard for warr + hpal, true

[@duaneharper6095]

This glorious arena skin with tight rope and wonderful color for visibility. I hate blades edge.

[@Vo1Tep]

rbh mage played in 1'st match as best as he could possibly play, from my perspective and understanding

[@dsta9996]

Stop complaining I’ve seen you run around an hide for 5 minutes over an over again

[@psimozdzek]

ah yes, warmane classic aka 2x human female arms holy tryhard combo :))))) i love arenas

[@Mercymurv]

damn clutch

[@francobellemo3583]

so is boring becouse u dont wanna play until YOU have the adventage to SAP????

[@hspro-jp3oo]

why dont you play hunter

[@iN8k]

13:49 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 It’s so ironic, I wanted you to use slice & dice at this moment & soon after you did😂🤣😭🌊

[@MrXennon1]

I don't think you know the meaning of the word ironic lmao

[@vlada_janjanin]

where’s the irony in that

[@iN8k]

Irony: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

[@MrXennon1]

@@iN8k there's no irony in wanted an individual to do something and then they do it. You can't simply apply the back half of the definition and attempt to say it fits the definition.

[@iN8k]

The fact that you’re still harassiNg me, even though I’m correct, & you’re iNcorrectly attemptiNg to correct me, is proviNg your desper8ion to protect your ego@@MrXennon1

[@alejandrobergsneiderreyes8706]

you should try mist of pandaria, the pvp is more balanced, in this shit expansion you practically die with only 3 hits

[@davy5421]

It says online that Hpal and Armswar are the best, but i think its farily mid at best. Tbh your comp rogue mage should beat it everytime, only chance they have against you is gross misplays from your team.

[@asdfomfglol]

it's one of the top comps when S8 comes out, but still I tihnk casters and rogue + spriest are gigabroken too. It's a fun expansion for me tbh, everything's cool except for shammy and resto healers in 2s.

[@kurioman]

if played absolutely perfectly i think DP + Feral is the best comp.

[@sneekyshot1]

plays op pvp class during vanilla for years > plays private servers for years *complains about the same boring cleave groups*

[@annaconda1991]

its not him doing the titles

[@deedud]

@@alexandrmakarov2368😂

[@MI6Connor]

says "This is what makes WOTLK arena boring" is it your face or what? i dont get it

[@mehrdadpirak8518]

Hey mate

[@roundhousetodaface]

ppl swear this is better than retail too

[@DarkMorthy]

I would play pvp even in my 180ms but if there wouldnt exists addons and macros. Make things sooo much easier for some races and for the people playing at good ms that is literally impossible to raise above 1000

[@TheMushmul]

doges trash talkin each other

[@nonenone-pk1gi]

jfc I forgot how shit arena turned out

[@toastyknuckles892]

wut is that accent? sounds brazilian.

[@kalashnikov0e]

Bulgarian

[@maximecaron1969]

Honestly what is boring is all the stun, sheep, snare, freeze, silence etc. Never understand how people could have fun playing this game. How fun.

[@buffneesss]

You might be playing against some of the smartest players, I mean going out and having a rogue be able to stun you when he wants would be kinda dumb right?

[@klingen1427]

ye true, mage rogue is what made it boring for me :)

[@getrido]

Playing rogue from wow classic till wotlk now till Data, is the boring factor

[@AkatsukiTG]

ahk ...

[@Dhrazor]

Indeed playing Forever-CC-Cheese comp must be boring... try playing something where you have something else to do besides doing the same 4 CC in a row... yes, this is hard, because in case you fuck it up you can pray that the enemy fucks up too or else you are done... This is basically robot-check comp... if you can repeat the same thing over and over again you win... don't be surprised that it gets boring...

[@Caker9]

Imagine playing rogue mage and complaining about arena being boring

[@romanswoboda2594]

Rogue + Mage...yes that's boring

[@MajidKetu]

he was Wrong about spellcleaves winning it tho

[@Brandonfromky]

Mage/rogue is the biggest cancer in arena right now. No respect for rogue players tbh

[@runkorko]

Жалко че не работят в ретеила тия адони :( Иначе благодаря за видеото. Не виждам защо намираш арените в лича за скучни.

[@petkotavliev9198]

защото има много класи дето могат да го супукат от бой вече :Д и не му е толкова лесно, уарлоци, паладини и дкта в арените ще са му тварежни особено като играе с мейдж, вместо да си вземе някакъв съпорт дпс, шадоупирест, друид да речем

[@quentinl2201]

1st battle you almost died, lucky you !

[@TAeJUnJANg]

컨트롤 하는거 보면 진짜 찐 도적 틀이네 ㅋㅋ 정말 자연스럽다

[@uhjeff3651]

I don't speak anime

[@denzel4189]

Big true

[@denzel4189]

@@uhjeff3651 basicaly a comment on how smooth and natural psheros movement is

[@grigorijefimovic1087]

There is only one way to not be boring and demonstrate true skill. Play some other classes on this level of gameplay.... IF U CAN BRO

[@JericCamps]

IMO rogues are one of those classes where if you can play it to a high level, you can play any other class to a high level.

[@TommyOhmalley]

You also run into the class design problems. Most likely if it isn’t on the top of the ladder. It’s because of balancing. There are plenty of people that play at rank 1 level. Each class has people of that skill level but the meta won’t let them compete in that meta

[@jheim9958]

As someone whos peak pvp was wotlk-wod (rogue/hunter mains) I can say, perfect counter for mage rogue is hunter & enhance or another rogue. Atleast, works better than others 😂

[@AndreasChaniotakis]

arena is boring in general. world pvp ftw.

[@sliceanddice4689]

IM PSCLOWN I CANT KILL PALLY CHIPSHOTTE + KIDNEYSHOTTE ONESHOT ITS BORING *CRYCRYCRYCRYCRY* GIVE ME MY TBC WITH TWO BUTTONS PLEASE *CRYCRYCRY*

[@joseperalta6789]

Your preferred 2s team not being as popular as youd like makes wotlk boring? xD. That streaming is prob the most boring thing of this, jkjk :p

[@az9498]

5:10 And what's funny about that is if you were relying on KZbin guides you would of thought it was gonna be tsg teams. Good thing I didn't care and still rolled my fav class a druid anyways. I do not regret it one bit.

[@big.dirty.buckets]

tsg gets more popular later with more resi

[@big.dirty.buckets]

+ warriors are at the bottom of pve dps charts atm cos of low crit and armour pen just imagine what that’s going to be like in pvp when they’re pumping in pve lol

[@TheSorsastaja187]

@@big.dirty.buckets Ever been on warmane? You are going to see 99% of the games vs shadowmourne warrior and holy paladin/disc priest

[@davidalexander7414]

Oh no rogue mage isnt having fun :(

[@vankhorne]

Can kill another player in just a Cheap/Kidney and is complaining. Cry more.

[@chrisprice8547]

Maybe play something other than an op rogue

[@yaroslavlobanov1728]

Comment sections of ret mains, whining that they are not winning a class that has more than 4 buttons.

[@lashaxoperia5917]

Mage does 80% job here.

[@runkorko]

Dps one sure, rogue is more about control (here)

[@sugar_beard]

Arena itself is boring, and implementing it in wow was a mistake(at least in a way it was implemented)

[@RedRagedRooster]

Add magic dispell on a CD to all healers, and give priests their separate Purge to not cuck them from the new magic dispell CD. Maybe we will see more than just hpal/disc

[@monkeysmad]

This game and its changes already occurred mate

[@vivalabamf9]

watching rogues in 2s is what is boring lol

[@jackcaffrey8493]

Lel someone didn’t roll rogue

[@Eramidas]

​@@jackcaffrey8493 Yes, because he isn't a coward

[@12Trentmoore]

Mans playing rogue/mage complaining about OP comps.

[@PowerWoWTV]

Rm sucks lol