This Is What You Get for Canceling | The West Wing

[@FlameKoRn]

the way Martin Sheen talks about Galileo is what makes this show so great. Sorkin had great dialog but the actors elevated it into something else.

[@rmwein1948]

A Great TV Show even 25 Years Later! Keep having more classic TV shows on You Tube even if in B&W

[@YourXavier]

If you have actors like that and you can't make it work, just stop writing.

[@kale27]

He said it right.

[@Sonnabend00]

Has anyone told them that Vigdis Augustdottir was a character in Clancys Red Storm Rising..and that the surname denotes a WOMAN in Iceland?? As in "dottir" - DAUGHTER? Oops.

[@FlameKoRn]

@@Sonnabend00 Even great shows makes mistakes, you can be there being a pedantic person and point them out, but you will miss the rest of the greatness that this show has

[@markc7440]

The best President that the US never had.

[@KayGee-r5o]

I would argue that would be Bernie Sanders but New Hampshire is close to Vermont so I'll grudgingly agree

[@monizdm]

That is easy when you are able to write the script.

[@retiredusvet4396]

I like a lot of the acting in West Wing - Always have, BUT Bernie Sanders??? LOL! You liberals are fun to read. Yeah a far-left socialist would make a great president! Maybe as good as Dementia Joe - That MORON is likely the WORST ever.

[@blablubb4553]

and can only dream of

[@TWFydGlu]

At least he was acting president.

[@gypzs9]

This clip has tears in my eyes. Imagine having a president who would even care about Galileo, let alone be excited to read a book about him. 😢

[@DrownedInExile]

As I recall from high-school history, Galileo wasn't well liked by his professors and peers. He was considered a smart-ass. No wonder Bartlet cared about Galileo! LOL

[@Grubnar]

What, don't you want to "be un-burdened by what has been" or some other Marxist word-salad?

[@larryc8568]

@@DrownedInExile Only by the retrograde Catholic Church which didn't like his knowledge and imprisoned him for having the gall to state that the Earth was not the center of the universe. So, not a smart ass.

[@levalpat]

strange but I also start to tear up at this scene and not sure why... part of it is just the magnificent dialogue and humanity in the president..... and my emotions are undoubtedly intensified by the soon to occur 2024 presidential election in which one candidate is a horrendous opposite of what the fictional President Bartlett is.

[@ilikepiproductions5916]

This is why this is fantasy ..... We are talking about the US education system 😅

[@FriscoCatshark]

I can't get over Jed's childlike wonder. "-Which has FOUR earthlike seasons." "No, sir." "...It does... :("

[@avatarmikephantom153]

You can tell he was either thinking “am I actually wrong on this?” Or “she doesn’t believe me?” His trust in mrs landingham was immense. You just see a disappointed little boy here.

[@DSmith-gs4tr]

For a young Dule Hill to get a front row seat watching two legends holding court with each other must have been incredible. I'm so jealous.

[@heetbrink]

On this momentous day when the democracy of our Republic lies in the balance, watching West Wing fills me with a profound sadness.

[@Sean0526a]

I'm just going to watch this show over and over for the next four years

[@rudyjuarez4535]

Jed: "I'll give you a $1000 if you don't make me go!!" Leo (unenthusiastically): "Think of the whales." Jed: "Do they vote!?" Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@McRocket]

Me too. ☮

[@blutobutt9169]

It's also funny because Leo was much richer than Jed. He was LOADED.

[@wickedj3]

@@blutobutt9169 I came to say this. Jed always gave Leo shit about how rich he was so a grand was probably pocket change for Leo

[@6140LIBRA]

😆😆😆The same

[@tracymetherell8744]

At this point in the election a scene from the West Wing is balm to the weary soul

[@truthseeker308]

@@teddykgb3865 It does. Jed Bartlett is a Democrat, and Democrats are the only ones who still oppose Russian BS.

[@njebei]

West Wing got me through 2020. It was nice to pretend.

[@Harro150988]

The only way to make a dream real is to work for it - as a species, we have a lot of work to do.

[@xChemistryFTWx]

Indeed.

[@johnpunith507]

When exactly did we loose our sophistication and decency and good old plain intelligence??

[@rd2783]

The way that Sorkin comes up with some make believe event that could happen is brilliant. The dialog and simple escalation of "there is no oil refinery..." is a master class is writing.

[@lekoman]

If only he hadn't tried to sneak "Oblast Region" past us. "Oblast" means region, in Russian. Or, maybe better "Province." There's no such thing as an "Oblast Region"... and 20km is like 12 miles, so the idea that there "are no oil refineries in the region" when there's one 15 minutes down the road is also a little goofy.

[@vintedge9721]

But then again that’s what the former White House employees provided as consultants to the show.

[@vederianl9723]

@@lekoman People say ATM Machine all the time.

[@lekoman]

@@vederianl9723 Well, 1.) Those people are wrong, and in elevated dialogue of the type Aaron is known for and is being lauded for in this thread, that kind of wrongness doesn't fly. 2.) No one would use a colloquial expression like that to construct the formal name for a place as would be used in an Oval Office meeting with the president during an international crisis, even if it weren't just incorrect. 3.) While TWW certainly took liberties with geography and even invented whole countries (Equatorial Kundu and Qumar are not real places), there never would be such a place as the "Oblast Region" because oblast is explicitly a common noun, not a proper noun.

[@vederianl9723]

@@lekoman So you're telling me a former Secretary of Labor would never get a place name wrong? When the location is entirely secondary to the point of the conversation? No one cares where the Nuclear Silo is, they care that it's on FIRE.

[@gordol66]

I read the video title as "This is what you get for cancelling The West Wing".😁

[@janwo]

glad to know i'm not alone

[@Mark73]

That's what I thought at first too. It lasted seven season seasons. I could have gone on like, one more season, max.

[@janf5193]

Same. And I thought it meant "this is what we get as a nation for canceling The West Wing..." Could be 😆

[@Ysoie]

Wasn’t until I read this comment that I realised that wasn’t what it said.

[@vbscordinatortlc9378]

@@Mark73 if sorkin came back and they extended the election them maybe but otherwise it ran it's course.

[@davebusby5904]

If only we were offered a presidential candidate (from either party!) as intelligent, quick witted, erudite, and able to grasp nuance as well as President Bartlet. That person would have my vote enthusiastically!

[@Mark73]

Obama was kind of like that (albeit a bit of a corporate shill, although nowhere near as much as any given Republican). Harris is pretty close, too.

[@ronne0364]

One of my favorite series of all time. I’ve watched the entire series at least 20 times and I catch something I missed every time.

[@doberski6855]

It was always amazing to me how many story lines they could stuff into an episode of The West Wing, and not only keep them all balanced, but also tie them together!

[@brianleap5830]

That's probably an accurate representation of how a good Presidency goes. Multiple issues and problems being handled at once and if they're doing it right all balanced.

[@HandyMan657]

I don't know whether to cry or.... what.... I cannot believe we are where we are as a Nation right now. oh man

[@ChrisHalliganLaw]

@@HandyMan657 just sing paula abdul loosely. Thats how i get by. 2 few steps forward, a few steps back...

[@Baffled_King]

To be fair, where we were then wasn't much better as far as POTUS went. Clinton was leaving office under a cloud of being impeached over an affair and George W was on his way in. WW was always aspirational.

[@dexterpoindexter3583]

We're having as much trouble adjusting as the Czar's family had in 1916...

[@alphanerd7221]

@@Baffled_King Nobody ever cared about Bill Clinton's affair and his impeachment was a joke. Clinton was a great president.

[@nickdown5025]

As a very minor British politician (District Councillor) can I say that if this isn’t how the USA is led then it should be.

[@josephmanno4514]

It's not. We're led either by the stupid or the evil. I'll leave it to you to decide how to label our respective parties, one of those for each.

[@gypzs9]

America has always had trouble living up to her own ideals of excellence.

[@zonarider673]

@nickdown5025 You would make a fine American but I am certain that you’re needed in Britain just as badly!

[@danieldieste9905]

​@@josephmanno4514 Or, at times the studily evil. Or the evilous stupid.

[@georgecottell6616]

Why don't you guys show us how it's done?

[@howardtreesong4860]

The Reykjavik Symphony Orchestra is absolutely marvellous. You want to go see it.

[@eidodk]

Except it's name is The Icelandic Symphony Orchestra... It's based in Reykiavik, but that's where the similarities end.

[@wxy484]

This hit my feed and I watched it the morning that Democracy died.

[@m1dn1ght5un]

You know people were saying the same thing in '04, right? and '16. And for basically every election before that.

[@EMidMSO]

​@@m1dn1ght5unTo paraphrase Hemingway about Bankruptcy; US Democracy died gradually from 2000, then suddenly in 2024. Or as Reginald D Hunter might have put it 'First it died, now it dead'

[@jamesbutler8821]

​@@m1dn1ght5un Eh, not so much. I DETESTED Bush 2, but he wasnt making plans to be a dictator. I voted against Trump in 2016 but we had not had the buildup then yet of criminality from him and evil that we have now.

[@thomasryan6240]

You exaggerate. Democracy is how Trump got re-elected. It sucks. It should not have happened. He should have been banned from running. But he won regardless, because of the democratic voting process.

[@tomtagliente1464]

"Did Buddy Holly come back!?" LOL

[@LD-bv1pm]

I watched The West Wing in its entirety a few months ago. I just started The Newsroom, also fantastic. Afterwards I'll re-watch the West Wing as it allows me to dream about what a decent American administration would look like.

[@pyroslev]

Having seen the Icelandic orchestra, they're actually pretty good. Worth seeing if you like that sort of thing.

[@kevinkredens7628]

And now we have an incoming president and potential Cabinet members who have no idea who Galileo was .

[@CraigCsfshrink]

I am going to watch The West Wing clips for the next 4 years and pretend Bartlett is the President

[@susanhayden6259]

Bartlett was my President before… He is definitely going to be my President for the next 4 years… 👍🏼

[@notgonnahappen7899]

So a President who engages in massive fraud and conspiracy to hide their MS from the public.

[@georgecottell6616]

🤣

[@Wontoofree-k4n]

The rhythm and choreography of the first 1 minute 50 seconds was exquisite.

[@maryrussell6072]

This was a great show. Ive watched it over and over.Very well done you could almost believe it is all real. IF ONLY.X

[@haroldanderson7327]

I like the little detail when the officials come in to give him a security briefing, how he just says "Charlie" and looks at him off camera and Charlie knows to leave the room because he doesn't have high enough security clearance to be in the room. it's something so simple but shows the attention to detail they had in this episode.

[@22espec]

He actually enjoyed the concert, he even send a congratulation card to the director.

[@mnm25479]

One of my fav episodes.

[@hangtime79]

God I love this show

[@Rabascan]

The Russians ultimately accept help with the silo, and manage to maintain their dignity. And the President is ultimately impressed with the Reykjavik Symphony Orchestra, if not for the fact that one of the pieces was specifically composed and rewritten for him - and muses on the fact that he almost cancelled the trip while a young composer was staying up, sleepless, in order to impress him.

[@jlmww]

I think I spotted a mistake. Leo calls the Icelandic ambassador "Vigdis Olafsdottir," which is a woman's name. But then he says "he's very excited to meet you."

[@nigeltocknell3093]

You beat me to it! Yes, a definite mistake - Icelandic surnames are often based on the first name of the father...dottir is daughter - if the ambassador was male his name should be Vigdis Olafsson

[@petergaskin1811]

@@nigeltocknell3093 According to another Icelandic specialist here Vigdis is a female first name - judging from the world's first elected woman President - Vigdís Finnbogadóttir (served 1980 - 1996) - he's most probably right.

[@MarijanStupar]

Leo also asks if the refinery fire is in the "Oblast region" of Russia. Oblast is just the russian word for region...

[@t123a698]

That, and also 2:11 Oblast region translates as Region region or Province region. Like, “A big hurricane made landfall at Tampa in State state”.

[@ChannelRandy]

I saw that

[@dhermitmorse]

Gods this show was amazing

[@jokester5812]

“Think of the wales” “do they vote?”😂😂😂😂😂

[@Whitpusmc]

As a lifelong Republican I would vote for him in a heartbeat over the jokers we have a choice over today on all sides. He’s wrong on several positions but he’d be reaching for the whole gestalt not a meme or a word salad… sigh.

[@trishgrant2715]

And I would settle for Arnold Vinnick. An example of a proper republican

[@martinsloan3972]

This is one of my favourite episodes, and that’s saying something given the quality of the entire series. But I just noticed a goof: with the name Olafsdottir, the ambassador should be a woman, so Leo’s line should be “she’s very excited to meet you”.

[@Yankfan831]

The Icelandic ambassador’s last name wouldn’t be Olafsdottir, it would be Olafsson since he’s a male. Icelandic last names and Patronymic, meaning when a child is born, the child’s last name is their fathers first name with “-son” at the end if the child is a boy or “-dottir” at the end if the child is a girl.

[@64Martin]

In case anyone's curious, "Oblast" is the Russian term for "district" or "region", so when Leo asks if it's in the "Oblast region" at 2:11, he might as well be asking if it's in the "County county". Also at 1:35, Leo gives the Icelandic ambassador's name as "Vigdis Olafsdottir", and then goes on to say "he's very excited to meet you". Vigdis is apparently a woman's name, and Olafsdottir translates as "Olaf's daughter" -- an Icelandic man would have been called "Olafsson". Normally I don't pick nits like this, but this one-two combo within a single minute kinda threw me, especially coming from a show that tends to call out its own characters on details just like this.

[@shriramvenu]

nice trivia. though I think to non russians, if someone is referring to "the Oblast", they probably mean "Kaliningrand Oblast" since its the only exclave of Russia. but Im just guessing.

[@liamhegarty3220]

I was about to put the same comment when I spotted yours. "Vigdis" is a woman´s name and you are quite right "Olafsdottir" is Olaf´s daughter. In Tom Clancy´s book "Red Storm Rising" one of the characters is called "Vigdis Agustdottir". A femal character.

[@BrianLanders]

@@liamhegarty3220 "Red Storm Rising" also being a book that started with a refinery fire in Russia....

[@SportyMabamba]

@@BrianLanders That lightbulb immediately went off for me also.. maybe the Icelandic Ambassador’s name (Altho being wrong for a male) is a sly reference?

[@mariav5539]

@@liamhegarty3220 That was bothering me as well!

[@LARams4lyfe]

"If they ask, we can help". How much the World would be a better place

[@Steve-r4h]

Leo: There's a lucrative international demand for fresh Icelandic mink whale meat. The President: Is this a joke! Priceless exchange.

[@simbeau]

So smart. So well thought out. So logical, even with a sense of humour. So unlike Trump. Please don't vote for him.

[@ncmccollum1708]

Please, please remember that most U.S. citizens (including myself) have never voted for DJT, that he’s never won the popular vote.

[@simbeau]

@@ncmccollum1708 Oh, I know and maybe that makes me even more angry. The apathy of those who don't vote at all. "I don't care what Trump does because I'm a white, straight cis gender person so if it won't affect me, why should I care."

[@prometheustv6558]

@@ncmccollum1708lol

[@lukacspetervarga7094]

4 and a half minutes and two mistakes: a name ending in "dottir" can't be a he, since it means "daughter", so in case of Olafsdottir, it is the daughter of Olaf's. Vigdís Ólafsdóttir, whose name they borrowed for this episode, is an actress of Icelandic origin. Another mistake is that something being in the Oblast Region means Region Region: oblasts were the administrative regions of the Soviet Union, but also of Russia, which has 46 of them. And yes, I still adore the show :-)

[@EMidMSO]

And then of course there's that slip about the earth orbiting the Sun! 😂

[@joemello7888]

I miss that show!

[@denniefleetfoot1082]

Having heard the Icelandic symphony orchestra play, I can confirm that they do indeed have game.

[@TheYakusoku]

Uh, that's one heck of a title to this clip. If you don't parse it correctly, it looks like one full sentence: "This Is What You Get for Canceling | The West Wing".

[@AdmiralKleinStarfleetCommand]

Thought same thing

[@SportyMabamba]

Me three

[@zonarider673]

That’s exactly what hooked me into watching it!!!

[@andrewhazlewood4569]

1:35 Why is the male ambassador (referred to as he) having the surname Olafsdotter (daughter of Olaf) when in Iceland surnames are not inherited but matronymic or patronymic?

[@dogkungfu8510]

"Is this a joke? "No, sir." 😂 Not so sure of that... 😅 Neither is Jed!

[@Mediaright]

"Do it for the whales." "...do they vote?"

[@Dfwlaw817]

I’m just glad that Jed Bartlett hasn’t sent me any text messages to donate money to his campaign.

[@brysimm404]

“What’s next?”, indeed.

[@MarkCranerium]

Showing the family photos on the desk as they zoom in

[@DorkaliciousAF]

Peak Sorkin, peak Bartlet.

[@Bazookatone1]

The ambassador's name is Vgdis Olafsdottir. I know only a little bit about Iceland, but the only time I've heard the name Vigdis used, it was a woman's name, and my understanding is that Icelandic people's surnames is their father's name, suffixed with "sun" or "dottir" depending on whether they are a son or daughter. So I think the Icelandic ambassador is a woman, and I think the Chief of Staff of the WHite House should know that.

[@Grubnar]

It is written "Vigdís Ólafsdóttir", and you are correct, it is a woman's name. Most likely the most famous Icelandic woman's name right after "Björk", since Vigdís (Finnbogadóttir) was our president from 1980 to 1996. She was very popular! And famous the world over since she was one of the first female democratically elected heads of state. Tom Clancy also named one of his characters in "Red Storm Rising" Vigdís ... I guess for the same reason. The name is composed of the prefix "Vig-" and the very common name "-dís". It is a Valkyre name and means "a maiden that brings good luck in battle/war".

[@jmackmcneill]

I think it is unclear whether Leo is saying "He's" or "She's", which leads me to think the script said "she" and the audio is just obscure.

[@jackal59]

A well-written and well-acted show that is full of false comfort. American government (really, _any_ government) has never been and can never be like this.

[@brettevill9055]

2:11 "… in the Oblast region?" ☹

[@RobertKingNewy]

Oops

[@PhoenixT70]

Yeah, the writers never did any research for the plot lines. It always bugged me.

[@Bum_Hip]

I believe they made up certain geographical areas as to avoid ruffling the wrong people’s feathers. Kinda like the fictional country of Qumar.

[@ilyaleytes1611]

Yeh that annoyed me as well. He basically said “ In the Region region” 🤦

[@ilyaleytes1611]

@@Bum_Hip”Oblast” is one of Russian words that can be translated as region. So the line makes no sense.

[@veramae4098]

Run this series again.

[@josephhodges9819]

Just imagine that Trump was trying to keep up. The guy has the same IQ as a bag of turnips. If Trump has a problem with my comment, he can call me, and I can explain to him what a turnip is.

[@PeterGavin-f9z]

Apologies are due for turnips everywhere 😢

[@Egilhelmson]

He is actually quite intelligent. The members of Hitler’s inner circle were, except for Ribbentrop, geniuses or better, despite being worth hanging, proving that brains aren’t everything.

[@josephhodges9819]

@@Egilhelmson Intelligence is much more than IQ.

[@smckinneyiii]

Hold on to your butts for another 4 years of "The East Wing"!

[@Wherethehellarewegoing]

Ok, I'm calling it. Time for a WW sequel with Sam as President. Thats all...

[@dangeroreilly2028]

except most associated with the show then don't want anything to do with Rob Lowe now, for political reasons.

[@Dammitliv613]

@@dangeroreilly2028 Uh oh, what's Rob Lowe done now? I'm afraid to google it.

[@dangeroreilly2028]

@@Dammitliv613 some time ago, he expressed a politically conservative opinion.

[@jessicataylor2603]

CJ for President?

[@Hyperbole77]

Can anyone even begin to imagine something barely approaching this level of complexity in a trump administration? He couldn’t pack this much density of information into a month of whatever the hell it was that he did when he was in the White House. Can you imagine somebody talking to him about whales? OMG

[@thejanitor3337]

By the way - he ends up absolutely falling in love with the composer, who completely rewrites his arrangement last-minute specifically for Bartlet.

[@galacruse2318]

"I'll give you $1,000 if I don't have to go....."

[@siriusmined3709]

The Oblast region? 😀

[@impromark]

"What's next."

[@alasdairwatson712]

Actually most people had contradicted Aristotle by the beginning of the Christian era, in most cases within a few years of the philosopher’s death. Herophilus of Chalcedon improved on Aristotle’s knowledge of the human liver; he also proved that Aristotle’s theory of humans having a bipartite uterus was wrong, that Aristotle’s theory that respiration was caused by the heart heating the lungs’ contents was wrong, that Aristotle’s theory that the function of the brain was to regulate the body’s temperature was wrong, that Aristotle’s theory that the heart was the seat of intelligence was wrong and Erasistratus of Ceos had proved that Aristotle’s theory that the brain was merely an outgrowth of the spine was wrong. By the middle of the 1st century AD Greeks ships were sailing to Rhapta (possibly Zanzibar or Pemba Island in Tanzania) south of the equator proving that Aristotle’s theory that there is a torrid zone at the equator so hot nothing can live there or travel through it.

[@elizabethdillon4945]

When you are the first to think about these things , mistakes will be made. I appreciate your post

[@Matuse]

The irony of course is that he loved the symphony, because they have serious game.

[@pcf9909]

I love how Jed only has one picture of one of his three daughters on his desk (OK the other 2 hadnt been cast yet) but its only a still shot from her scene in the restraunt from 20 Hours in LA.

[@swainscheps]

Briefers need to tell the president what’s going on and tell *him* what’s important/what he needs to worry about. It shouldn’t be a game of 20 questions with the guy that designed the 3-cent mallard stamp in Fargo.

[@cjdayne3033]

Whether it’s a meeting with Greg Summerhayes or going to see an orchestra at the Kennedy Center, when Leo McGarry puts something on your schedule you’re going !

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Was there any talk of the USSR helping in 1980 when Damascus AR had its Titan explosion? In either case, what could any outside entity do?

[@jfthome]

Look, I know this is just a TV show, but can anyone imagine Trump in Sheen’s shoes IRL? God help us if that idiot gets re-elected.

[@noellepoe665]

Indeed! We Do need God’s help now

[@emmetkowler]

“Do they vote?”

[@aloneinfinland]

now i want you to imagine that scene but with Trump

[@aema5124]

May I suggest we all just watch West Wing over and over again on KZbin while you know who (trump) is in office!!!

[@ianboyle1026]

Interesting that almost all the comments for this clip are about the mistakes of language and historical & scientific fact in the script, indicating not only the education level of TWW's viewers, but their concern for what matters. Aaron Sorkin, bless him, makes a number of these sorts of errors in the course of the series (my favourite cringe is when Bartlett tells a retired English teacher that Beowulf was written in Middle English), and it used to bother me, until I realized that (a) he was writing at breakneck speed almost the whole time; (b) it was written pre- (or at least proto-) internet, when you had to really hunt down facts; and (c) William Shakespeare made similar mistakes, back in his day (probably for similar reasons, i.e. he was churning out words fast, and all he had was dial-up).

[@ricardog2165]

Shakespeare had dial up?

[@ianboyle1026]

@@ricardog2165 Well, yeah -- he lived a really long time ago! 😆

[@noellepoe665]

😂

[@pinverarity]

“Oblast” means region or district, so Leo’s gratuitous “that’s in the oblast region?” means “that’s in the region region?”

[@revmiguel2000]

Didn’t they have a Russian coach?

[@eidodk]

@@revmiguel2000 Apparently not - Sorkin was on crack cocaine, mushrooms and weed, so who knows where it came from.

[@tal_the_great]

I dont like the constant trope of: Expert: We can have an analysis for you in X hours. Authority: You have X/2 time! All you end up doing is teaching experts to use the Scotty method of just lying about how long things take to do.

[@jamesrawlins735]

Unfortunately it's the reality especially in emergency or highly sensitive matters when it comes to the White House (pretty much any president....well, I won't say any more.)

[@tal_the_great]

@@jamesrawlins735 That would be bullshit. The way this would work in reality: expert: We can do an analysis, how much time do we have? authority: We need an answer in 30 minutes. expert: Understood -- we will have an answer in 30 minutes, but it will not be with high confidence. authoirty: We just need something more than we have now.

[@jbernhei]

Leo identifies the Icelandic ambassador as a man but the last name he gives (ending in dottir) is that of an Icelandic woman...

[@jimgeary]

Norm Gunderson moving up in the world from painting stamps.

[@fyremanjef]

These clips, of an educated president, make me want to write in Martin Sheen in November. He could do better acting than both of the choices presented.

[@Wally535]

That’s a stellar idea!

[@moogie42069]

I heard this exchange when it first aired. I still clench my jaw when Leo says the name of the ambassador, and then refers to them as "he".... A name that ends with ..."dottir" is a woman's name and one that ends with "son" is a man's name. I love the series though and try to forgive it.

[@KayGee-r5o]

Yeah so what if he's not throwing plates of food against the wall he's not a real patriot

[@quinbensoncryptid]

The Icelandic ambassador's name sounds female* but Leo says 'he'. * The suffix "-dóttir" is used to indicate that a person is a daughter, and is added to the father's name to create a girl's surname.

[@Grubnar]

I am impressed that he was able to say Vigdís Ólafsdóttir, clearly enough so I could actually understand it! Icelandic names can be so difficult for Americans.

[@lupeezyy]

Speaking of Cold war mentality, here's a good alternate title: President Bartlet: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying Since They Cancelled the West Wing

[@robertyates9500]

I’m fairly sure that the guy giving the president the briefing about the oil refinery fire is the guy that played the Italian barber in Gran Torino with Clint Eastwood

[@johnmckenzie4639]

Yes. John Carroll Lynch. He's always excellent.

[@pcf9909]

Isnt one of them the guy that played Drew Careys cross dressing brother on The Drew Carey show?

[@johnmckenzie4639]

@@pcf9909 Yep. John Carroll Lynch.

[@nawyecannae53]

And drew the penny stamp in Fargo?

[@johnmckenzie4639]

@@nawyecannae53 Yep! Him again. He's everywhere. 😀

[@gu9838]

hehe keyhole before it became FREE and google maps! they used to charge!

[@johngallagher912]

What amazes me about this show and politics in general is that nothing has changed when it comes to policy disagreements between democrats and republicans. Immigration, abortion, gun control, taxing the rich. Nothing has changed. You can watch this show and see the same issues that each side fights for today. It makes this show remain current twenty five years later.

[@prometheustv6558]

Well back then it was crazy even for a democrat to support gay marriage now it’s th norm

[@SchulzEricT]

IS THAT LAVENDER GOOMES???

[@alabamaal225]

I can imagine Obama being this much in charge and on top of things; I can imagine Biden being this much involved. Trump?

[@Egilhelmson]

If you can imagine Biden being this much involved, you should really reveal where you get such good psychoactive drugs.

[@alabamaal225]

@@Egilhelmson We don't have to imagine how involved Trump gets.

[@effortist]

Such an aspirational show, but here in reality we are a hair width close to elevating a dunce to the oval office for a second time.

[@jstpshply79]

When Trump goes to prison, how much do you think it would cost to bribe the guards to force him to watch all 8 seasons 24/7? 🤔

[@LazyDaisyDay88]

Think of the whales..... 😂😂

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Probably the concert would be really good. Could've been worse. Could have been Of Monsters And Men.

[@johngraham-kn8uf]

The West Wing is what most people think happens in the Whote House. It's too bad that no matter what party is in power it isn't. This is especially sad when you have a President that spends all night txteting, doesn't get up til noon eats junk food all day and plays golf as often as he can

[@PabSungenis]

Vidis Olafsdottir cannot be a "he." In the Icelandic naming convention, if they were male their second name would be "Olafsson." "Olafsdottir" literally means "Olaf's daughter." But I'm just channeling my inner Bartlet.

[@Padfoot1985]

Spoiler alert Bartlett comes back from the symphony that he very much did not want to be at. He talked about how he was bored, but then suddenly the 3rd movement brought it all together. In the end the President was moved by the Icelandic symphony. Because those guys can really play.

[@bkzone8]

I've never been to Iceland but I have Icelandic roots and I've read a lot about Iceland and its culture. There would never be a man with the last name ending in dottir, as in Olafsdottir, the name given to the representative of Iceland in this clip. He would be Olafsson.

[@joebartone606]

I wonder if the Oval works like that when OrangeJumpsuit is in there.

[@lf67hh28]

I don't think Joe Biden even knows how to find the oval office in fairness. 😂

[@PrograError]

TBH it's said that he received it in points, not essay as is the usual...

[@alphanerd7221]

@@lf67hh28 Your first three words are correct.

[@lf67hh28]

@@alphanerd7221 Careful you're defending a corpse. 😂 Can he speak or tie his shoes yet? 🤦‍♂️

[@myalterego2878]

Who was cancelled now?

[@quinbensoncryptid]

The oblast region??? Doesn't oblast mean region, anyway? Like saying county County?

[@simbeau]

And Mount Fuji means "mountain mountain"

[@quinbensoncryptid]

@@simbeau I've heard that, but I'd understood it was a misconception; I'll have to look it up again in a moment. Anyway, did they mention it in the scene? I don't remember because it didn't jar like 'in the oblast region' did. Not that I don't enjoy tautological toponyms👍😄 Avon, Humber and Ouse are all 'River river' moments in Britain and there's a hill hill hill hill somewhere about with 'pen' and 'tor' in the name, can't remember the full name just now, in... Devon? I'm guessing. Have to look that one up, too. [Edit] it's Torpenhow - locals say there isn't actually a place named Torpenhow Hill though. AND it's in Cumbria not Devon - other end of the blooming country. Dammmmn 😄😄😄 Time to hire some bulldozers, IYAM.

[@googoo-gjoob]

Did Buddy Holly come back?