THIS is Why Gray Zone NEEDS an Update..

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[@benmzk3802]

On top of what this game really need is people understanding it's a pre-release.

[@Soothyn]

...the pre release whole point is so people can diagnose the problems? Like stodeh is doing? No?

[@vladimirdracul2387]

Bush Wook AI's defo need an overhaul lol

[@MURDERAXE]

Shits broken for real. Lamang Fenty Predators chillin in bushes

[@Brayhz99]

So basically 2-4 men can take out 500+ soldiers but 500+ soldiers are not physically allowed to fight back

[@Stodeh]

Not directly through bushes and walls preferably?

[@Bryan_One87]

Its the Aimbot type lock on they have that's bullsht iron sight at 300m or the entire base aggro and immediately know exactly where you are even when using a suppressor

[@EricTheBroBean]

I get 100+ fps on a 4080 Super when scoping in Tiger Bay without framegen. GZW has a issue in Tiger Bay and Midnight Sapphire, if you restart the game you will get normal framerate again, it happens at random times. If you're in a squad and suddenly suffer from framedrops, unplug the ethernet cable, wait for prompt to reconnect or quit, choose quit, put ethernet cable back in, boot up game, accept invite from squadleader and pick up where you disconnected.

[@pluke2111]

I only see the problem with performance and AI amount/spawnrate. Then grinding becomes possible.

[@somdobomk]

When you’re around concealment, move after a few shots. It’s concealment and not cover. I can solo tiger bay without much difficulty. Keep moving instead of digging in and fighting. Fall back or flank. The enemy just pushes to your last known position so you can keep flanking them. I hope they don’t make the ai easier. They’re only hard if you try to steam roll them, be patient and flank is the way to go.

[@whatchaMACALLEM-222]

The difficulty isn't the issue. It's them being able to see you through bushes and being able to one shot you from across the map with a red dot. Then, on top of that they don't have a suppression mechanic on them. If you're shooting at them they shouldn't have perfect aim nor should they have perfect aim while getting hit in the chest. The game is supposed to be realistic and non of the things they do is realistic atm. They don't run and play cover they don't whimper nothing. They just walk at you like terminators.

[@denniscebolinha1451]

There is mostly “concealment” but almost no actual cover, that looks like a design flaw

[@clicksx268]

@@whatchaMACALLEM-222they cant actually see through bushes. They shoot the last known bush you’re in. Break line of sight and move location, and they keep shooting last known location and not you. It’s the design of the game. Hope they dont change it

[@whatchaMACALLEM-222]

@clicksx268 bs yea they do. they shoot from out of the bushes even when you can't see them. I've been hit from in a bush cause when you start moving the track you.

[@mckinleyfisher-lynd3896]

I literally play on a 3060 and r5 2600, performance is far from great but I get around 60 in tiger bay and 70-80 most other places on low settings at 1440p with frame gen. Far from unplayable. I think RAM is important in this game though, I have 32gb @ 3800mhz

[@denniscebolinha1451]

When you use frame gen without stable 60 fps, that adds latency to mouse movement

[@wolpumba4099]

*Summary* * *0:01** Tiger Bay Issues:* Stodeh and Westie discuss the issues with Tiger Bay, including: * *0:14** Insane AI:* AI is too accurate, able to shoot through bushes and hard cover. * *0:30** Performance Issues:* Low framerate, especially when scoped in. * *0:57** Key Grinds:* Players need to grind for keys to progress on certain missions. * *3:45** Keybinds and Armbands:* Stodeh and Westie lament the lack of keybind customization and armbands, which were in an earlier version. * *5:04** AI Behavior:* They discuss how AI needs to be reworked, specifically how they sit in bushes and never leave. * *7:56** Player Performance Issues:* Stodeh mentions many players have issues running the game, with some experiencing very low framerates. * *41:06** Game Optimization:* Stodeh is hoping the developers will prioritize a performance update, which is needed for the game to be playable for many. * *5:26** Tiktok:* Stodeh mentions his most viewed Tiktok video is about the Mosin rifle in Gray Zone, and the many comments correcting him on its appearance. * *17:43** Community Briefing:* Stodeh found it humorous that the developers blamed solo players for the lack of choppers in the game. * *41:29** Key Drop Rates:* Stodeh explains that certain keys only drop from specific bosses, making them extremely rare to find. * *42:16** Game State:* He feels the game hasn't changed much since its release and believes the developers should have waited to release it until they had more features/updates. * *46:14** Arena Breakout:* Stodeh compares Gray Zone to Arena Breakout, which he believes is a more finished game. * *54:58** Ground Zero Speculation:* Stodeh and Westie speculate about what the Ground Zero area will feature, possibly a dirty bomb, a palace, and a Giant Egg! * *56:24** Frame Gen:* Stodeh explains how he uses Frame Gen in Tiger Bay due to the low framerate. He feels frame gen is necessary for this game, but it can cause latency issues. * *57:25** Game Changes:* Stodeh notes how different Warzone is compared to its earlier iterations, showing how much a game can change over time. * *2:16:47** Mosen vs. ARs:* Stodeh feels sniper rifles are pointless in Gray Zone since ARs are just as accurate. * *2:21:17** AI Visibility:* Stodeh talks about how the AI has an insane ability to see through bushes and spot players even at long distances. * *2:05:39** AI Movement:* Stodeh is frustrated with AI's Call of Duty-like movement, making it difficult to hit them. * *1:24:50** Health System:* Stodeh and Westie discuss how to best heal each other, particularly when dealing with triple bleeds. * *1:41:25** Body Disappearances:* If a player dies twice, their body disappears. * *1:57:17** Performance Issues:* Stodeh experiences frame drops even in areas that should have higher framerates, indicating a performance issue. * *1:47:21** Cheaters:* The topic of cheaters comes up, but Stodeh hasn't experienced any personally. * *40:42** Future Content:* Stodeh and Westie talk about what they think the developers should add in future updates, like new weapons, improved AI, and more meaningful loot. * *2:47:15** Arena Breakout vs. Gray Zone:* Stodeh discusses the differences between the two games, with Arena Breakout being more finished, but Gray Zone having a more in-depth quest system. * *4:59:17** Game Enjoyment:* Stodeh finds the most enjoyable part of Gray Zone to be the missions and the cooperative aspect with friends. The PVP is more of an inconvenience, as he feels the game is more of a military simulator than a PVP-focused game. * *5:01:52** Early Access:* Stodeh explains that the current build is only 30% of the full game. * *5:02:05** Game Performance and Hardware:* Stodeh highlights how the game requires a high-end PC to run smoothly, making it inaccessible to many players. * *5:03:54** Game Features:* Stodeh discusses things they'd like to see in future updates, like a day/night cycle and better loot. * *5:04:29** Tiger Bay Difficulty:* They agree that Tiger Bay is the most difficult and least enjoyable area in the game due to the dense foliage and AI. * *5:04:53** Endgame:* They discuss how the endgame areas, like Fort Narth, Tiger Bay, and Midnight Sapphire, are the most difficult but offer the best loot. * *4:04:04** Game Cons:* Stodeh summarizes the cons of the game, including the random AI, performance issues, and bad drop rates. * *3:18:18** Game Economy:* Stodeh notes that the game's economy is skewed, as players can easily buy most of the best gear, making it less meaningful to find it. * *3:21:32** Game Comparison:* Stodeh compares Gray Zone to other games like DayZ, Arma 3, Tarkov, and Arena Breakout, discussing the similarities and differences. * *5:01:33** PVP vs. PVE:* Stodeh emphasizes that the missions and PVE aspect are the most enjoyable parts of the game, while the PVP is an inconvenience. * *2:59:05** Game Updates:* He expresses hope that the developers will prioritize performance, AI, and loot updates. * *4:58:48** Future Plans:* Stodeh and Westie plan to continue playing Gray Zone until they complete all the missions and then move on to Arena Breakout. * *4:59:17** Game Concept:* Stodeh describes Gray Zone as a combination of Arma 3 and DayZ, with a focus on missions and PVE. i used gemini 1.5 flash and pro to summarize the transcript

[@MinusII]

Stod you can right click any stackable item (ammo, money, etc*) and hit top-up and it will combine all partial stacks.

[@MO0GwAii]

This game is so cool and its just a pré alpha… i hope devs gonna do good job on this game

[@FrAsSBrAsS]

its not pre alpha... and it will probably stay like that for another 4-5 years

[@denniscebolinha1451]

@@FrAsSBrAsStrue

[@coreysmith2741]

That was the boss with the silenced Ak with the elcan specter scope at fort narith. I had him glitched thru the wall on the stairs to the roof

[@yodabolt1247]

What CPU do you have? I'm not running into this bad of an FPS drop, running 3080 and 14900k.

[@zakhoyt7771]

I hate how AI can see you through everything. Also the item management needs some serious fixing. The fact I can’t drag and drop something in a space that has an item already in it and swap it with that item is so annoying.

[@paulmartocci-smale2285]

Playing solo is almost impossible, i have a team mate we can clear everything. The ai just be glassing through bushes before you see them. Def not skill gap but ai is a beast.

[@Tigliz12]

I like how the game looks coming from a top end pc. I know I’d need a lot of costly pc upgrades to get it look and perform half decent.

[@IIMAVII]

I am guessing its the Airfield Office Storage key you are after for the Hazardous Treasures 6 part mission? People say its super rare but i have had it drop 3 times. 2 of them whilst looking for the PLA03 key for the Hangar. I agree though its stupid locking missions behind random key drops.

[@tmbazza]

I have found pla03 and that’s it

[@IIMAVII]

@@tmbazza Do you still need the Airfield Office Storage Key? I am more than happy to come to the airfield with you and open the door. If you are Crimson my username is IIMAVII on the EU West server.

[@esheppshepard]

i have no performance issues at all with 130 fps on high and 60 on epic with dlss. im lvl 28. complaining about AI in bushes? really?! what would humans do?

[@Bass_Nomad.]

its an alpha, personally i start to like the super ai..be glad they cant seem to shutup when they notice you or they would be even more deadly.

[@Jinz-re2hh]

extremely bushy o.O time to get the trimmer out

[@Bass_Nomad.]

agent orange.

[@trapper7954]

it sure takes a long time to hear any news on a performance update. I assume it's their highest priority but next week we get another hotfix with irrelevant minor bugfixes that no one wants. So the big question remains, when will this game get optimization, it desperately needs to be playable. I'm very much done with it in this state... Let's check the game again in 6 months or a year unfortunately. Everyone with a video card that has max 8GB will struggle on potato mode settings. Even the res needs to be 2 formats lower, I can't see shit it's so bad. On potato mode settings it should at least run smooth but no🤣. Can't see shit with these 4 pixels as vision with shit frames and rubberbanding also Let alone the fact that the AI is super broken and there is no loot.💀

[@ashkanmahouti858]

you need a super computer to run this shit. there is no way anything below 50 or 40 series will work after more content gets out. I hope im wrong.

[@clalam5241]

Thank you for the consistent gzw content You can just learn about something you dont understand and accept the correction without getting butthurt . Youre playing a milsim game, talking about firearms and how they work will happen unfortunately

[@bilgerat6060]

I understand the complaints about the AI but bushes are not cover and wooden huts are not cover.

[@magnumx70]

yeah early acces i see you in a year maybe

[@pitcher941]

i personally dont think the key drop is a major problem. it invites play time instead of steam rolling the game. however maybe they can implement it where the drop rate is better in pvp mode for people who want to strictly pvp.

[@liamsxa]

games been out 5 minutes and it needs more content

[@triancirc]

Why does it feel that although the graphics is 10/10 this game is green, green, and then even more green.

[@da1hntr]

bc it takes place in a jungle lol

[@Bass_Nomad.]

because its situated in the jungle. jungles tend to have a lot of green.

[@balonhd4890]

Tiger bay encompasses issues? You mean encompasses inconvenience. You streamers all whined and complained and said pve would never be challenging enough and would result in a dead game. And now y'all complaining it's too hard. BRUH make up your damn minds lmfao. Can't please anyone anymore holy... And for those who wanna say "He'S oN a PvP sErVeR tHo" i'm talking about the AI side of the game specifically. Not the pve mode in itself. Now I agree with the scoping in and dropping frames is a huge issue. It def needs some more time in the oven for improvements and stability fixes for sure. But c'mon, y'all wanted challenge, but you're complaining about it. Besides, the AI will be tweaked soon, they already said this. They are hard focusing on stability for now before moving onto QoL things and AI improvements/tweaking. Which I agree with. Not to mention you guys try to play this like cod too, which is funny to watch. Like watching a halo player trying to play Arma xD BUT on the brighter side, it's good to see you guys adapting and improving your strats for dropping the AI.

[@Bass_Nomad.]

this alpha release is so damn good, people seem to mistake it for a final release. trust me star citizen is in alpha for a lot longer and the bugs and issues in that game are 1000 times worse. the game is totally playable unless u run it on a potato pc ( well actually u need quite a beefy pc and modern gpu but i am sure it will get more optimised later). I agree the AI is very hard, and the glitching and ai being able to see thru bushes is not great ( i am not sure if they really see you, they are pretty darn sensitive to sounds ) that should be fixed, however its kind of refreshing to have ai really challenge the players, they even flank and search buildings, and can one tap you like a player would. fortunately the are very talkative when they spot you, if they weren't it would be even 10 times harder.

[@balonhd4890]

@@Bass_Nomad. I agree, it's nice to not be able to slide cancel everywhere like a cracked out 13yr old on redbull and Mountain Dew

[@mobydork5591]

Ok this is a problem. You are complaining about the AI instead of complaining that it's hard. Let it be hard. However, the frame issue is bad 😂 but it makes the content less watchable if you are pushing a negative narrative against the game itself in terms of ai difficulty. Hard is hard, and hard AI are still just hard

[@syncryptic_2233]

I have sawmill office storage key if you want to run a raid for your task. Zycov is my user

[@damag3plan]

Without a 10k computer I seriously doubt this game is worth purchasing

[@kevinju123]

Can I introduce you to Geforce Now? lol. I will never upgrade my PC again, using it for 6 months now

[@rippinlips8899]

Don't need a 10k computer

[@PantzShidded]

I only have a 6500xt+ryzen 5600x runs pretty good so far surprisingly.

[@Bass_Nomad.]

i have an rtx 3090ti, its probably not that expensive anymore and it runs it decently. people act like 60 fps is not enough. my monitor doesnt even refresh more then 60 fps. humans dont have such an uber reaction time that they will play better at 120 fps...i get around 80-120 fps using dlss and medium settings. if i max it out its still totally playable but i get 45 fps in some sections with everything on epic.