This is why I don't Qualify in Forza Motorsport Open Lobbies

Just qualify they said, you get cleaner racing they said.
Yes it works for the most popular lobbies such as TCC and Forza GT but definitely the same does not apply for open class lobbies. You need to approach these lobbies with a completely different mindset, especially in higher classes.
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[@succulenttrash3343]

Idk if i should feel shame for it but everytime i qualify high and we head towards corner one, i pausw my game, unpause it so i can ghost and sit in someone else's line and not get taken out 😭

[@Voxx0086]

wait that is genius why did I never think of that lmao

[@succulenttrash3343]

@@Voxx0086 its almost necessary 😭

[@krazycharlie]

I don't know either, but I think it's a viable strategy, considering all the shameful rammers out there.

[@ericrodriguez1013927]

Didn’t think ghosting would work online this a good tip, everyone gonna be ghosting 😂

[@user-nn6ow3xt5o]

@@krazycharlieyou mean shameless?

[@Jamezontoast]

I love how Forza Motorsport may as well just be a FH5 expansion since the online is exactly the same at this point

[@hellogoodybye44]

FH5 is a better racing experience. You don’t have to wait 30 minutes for a fucking race and they at least ghost out the high speed collisions.

[@ToolCraze]

I still play fh5 and there are actually a lot of clean racers. Yes there's filthy rammers here and there but they usually suck and aren't hard to pass.

[@orcusdei]

@@ToolCraze :D Who do you call filthy, you toolcraze!

[@sasuke921231]

@Jamezontoast im sorry this shit looks so like GT man LOL the same except FH5 sad

[@timberwolvesguy6392]

When I was in driving school, they always taught us to not pass dangerous drivers and keep them in front of us so that we can avoid the danger. While this was meant to apply to everyday driving, the same can be said here

[@LOLHICRONO]

wouldnt you just finish last then?

[@windy110]

1:08 Masterful reverse entry into that corner

[@markfehrenbach6288]

4 Seconds *avoidable collision*

[@Irishatheist24]

That Ste 145 guy was trolling 😂 he made a pitstop and still won

[@Vaiscrew]

I had to pit because when we try to change tires game was on loading screen

[@mahmutkoc2788]

@@Vaiscrew you have the best lap time, under 1.40

[@kenji_1240]

just saying but he was probably on soft tires, while ISAD was on mediums. ISAD’s were able to last the whole race, but Ste 145 had the grip advantage along w the luck of not getting rammed to win 1st

[@NegerKim]

No he wasn't, he was running his leaderboard car and was stuck on soft tires due to the bug before the hopper change.

[@matnasa8292]

This is why ive stopped playing forza since 3 days ago. Honestly i was rage quitting 50% of my races and the game feels like a chore to play now, which is a shame because apart from the ramming and penalties it is a great driving experience mostly. Just sick of spending hours in practice lobbies and qualifying just to get knocked into last place in turn one, and even if you recover there are plenty of races where half the lobby is ramming anyone who is passing, even when moving up to podium which is shocking. This was meant to be the saving grace for xbox imo and now i think ill be moving on to PS in the coming months.

[@scuttdamutt]

I have to agree 100 percent. Today may just be my last day, buying a PS5 and moving on

[@Yantrus]

You already touched on it in the description, but I definitely think this is less of an open vs spec series issue and more of a skill issue when it comes to very high power cars. The majority of forza players simply dont have the skill required to avoid contact when using anything near the top end of R-class and above. However in any case I always find that qualifying is the way to go.

[@therealjimbo3206]

exactly. for the most part it's fools not knowing how braking points work too. it's not gonna be the same behind 5 cars braking before you. and they seem to a "I drive all over the road, good luck everybody else" mindset. it's like nobody cares to watch out for anybody. which penalties should then come into actually punishing players but it doesn't. bravo forza

[@cf7gaming277]

This happens in D and E class as well. It is just pathetic.

[@tobyeaterofbark9582]

It looks me the entirety of Forza horizon 5s lifespan to learn to not hit people so when I tried multiplayer it baffles me anyone would touch a game like this without atlwast learning the basics bc i fwlt like an asshole slamming into ppl

[@therealjimbo3206]

@tobyeaterofbark9582 they wouldn't survive playing f1. they would probably need a year with career mode on low difficulty just to understand what's legal or not on the track. I only play on 70 ai which is still a challenge imo. I still use replay but for things like braking way too late/early. I haven't crashed at all though. some ai have tried to squeeze in a pass but definitely had no room and have hit me before but they're pretty smart. they defend their position pretty well, and like in real life verstappen is a beast pretty much on every track.

[@toetap8118]

qualifying is NOT the way to go😂 if ur faster than most ppl in the lobby you’ll fly by them naturally within the first few corners

[@LUNATIC75]

I so wish they'd sort out multiplayer replays. The mayhem at every turn one and some of the epic revenge take outs I've see have been pure gold, but they are now sadly lost... like tears in the rain.

[@benjaminhigham3624]

It’s so frustrating to me that they haven’t fixed replays yet. Especially compared to GT7s replays. Big part of a racing game.

[@pervysage4531]

I feeel you bro honestly I mainly play the game because those moments bring great laughter!

[@huffnan9196]

Damn that “tears in the rain” bout made me cry😿 facts tho!😂

[@historichugo1734]

1:27 made me laugh so hard

[@mahmutkoc2788]

🤣🤣🤣

[@notpoliticallycorrect1303]

You're not alone.

[@adammiller5301]

Would love to see stats from turn10 on the average finish spot of the pole position. I would wager it’s much lower than it should be for this very reason.

[@iyiadesomorin286]

That overtake at 4:15 was insane!!

[@brettstevens8165]

Forza Horizon 5 Bone Shaker Users vs Forza Motorsport first corners Who wins?

[@loco240]

You make a really good point here and one can't argue with seeing the proof with your own eyes. I agree with another popular YT creator who has state multiple times that this could be improved greatly if Forza did not match players into specific lobbies until the end of the practice and qualifying. In other words, what GT7 does. Turn 10 have made some really severe errors in the launch of this game, possibly fatal errors, and this is one of the biggest ones. That was my main point. If anyone is interested in my further rambling on this problem, here are some things I do: I accept this is how Forza Motorsport is currently, and it probably will stay that way, since it appears that Microsoft doesn't care about quality, they care about selling consoles and subscriptions. I figure if I start 5th, get rammed, and restart 18th, it all works out about the same anyway, so I just see it as part of playing the game. It's a game, remember. It's not a racing sim, not even close. It's a game, and there are strategies and attitudes that one takes toward games. Forza Motorsport isn't gambling at a casino in Vegas; it's more like playing a game on your phone to pass the time. I look at the game overall, what it offers, and place the online multiplayer experience as one of the least valuable parts of the game. Actually the online multiplayer is a negative and subtracts from any consumer value the game has. But whatever value that is, I look for it elsewhere in the game. I do qualify, because I think that opting out of a problem is reasonable, but it doesn't make any movement toward fixing the problem. If I qualify well, ramming is almost guaranteed. I am extremely considerate of other players during practice, I make a point of always giving room to faster cars, I avoid any pissing matches happening on track, and I take note of the players who are obvious troublemakers. I think that doing those things might cut down, slightly, on the number of times I get taken out by other players.

[@Vaiscrew]

1:08 I’m the white Ferrari that got smashed in turn1 and that’s exactly why I also rarely qualify 😂

[@dsmotorsportgaming5756]

This Is Why I Stay Offline With Racing Games Lmao. I Feel You Bro 💙🏎🎮🎥🔥😣😂💚

[@Mupppsss]

It really is bad online, almost to the point where I'd want it like FH5, ghosted for 30 seconds at start lol. Great racing as per usual. GGs !!!

[@wheeljork]

Understandable strategy given the current state of things.

[@CCFROMAN]

Always love the sudden Initial D drift soundtrack, well, hate to see it but love to hear it

[@old-simracing-rookie]

i skip qualifying for the same reason. if i start at the end, in 95+% of all races, i will be able to clear at least 5 and often more places after the first 3 corners and without broken penalty 😅

[@ShadowMokujin]

30 second ghost start most definitely needed

[@aprosimracing]

I believe one of the reasons for so many crashes is that FM car brakes are too sensitive and easily lock up, so the new Forza people aren't used with that. I am guilty of that too as I have been struggling to find the right brake setup: pressure, etc.

[@kenji_1240]

Im pretty sure most people use abs on

[@MAL9000.]

This is why they should focus on offline content and collecting cars in career mode (of course without always online BS), not online multiplayer. This happens in 4 out 5 ranked races too.

[@TodaysTomSawy3r]

Love when they wreck you off the start or spin you in turn 1 and then the game gives you a 4second penalty.

[@Veltior]

Matthew 19:30 "But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." - Jesus

[@Carnyzzle]

Had to like when the eurobeat kicked in

[@barrackb0325]

You lasted longer than 99% of my races. 8 seconds. I’m impressed.

[@Vaiscrew]

4:25 I had to pit because game didn’t let me change my fuel and tires after qualifying

[@NJDJ1986]

@1:09 lol! Race has started for 8 seconds & there is chaos already happening!

[@PaganCurse98]

I wanna see a racing game split the lobbies to where those on controller can race with others on controller and those on steering wheel can race with others om steering wheel.

[@Ookies.85]

Well, i will talk for myself and my experience (90% time at GT / 5% touring / 5% randon series when very bored): 1 - doesn't matter the category or rating, after the P5 you i most likely be pinball ball, you will need a lot of luck and be a bit agressive (yes, it means you will need do gentle ham ppl to overtake); 2 - If you want to win races then you need few things at least. A) Qualify no more than P3; B) Be sure that your car have great accel at the green flag. some cars do great laps but the start is a pain, you lose 4-5 positions easily and then (you will be throwback to P5+ hell. Thats is exactly what happened to you at kyalami); C) Prefer cars with the fastest accel possible. For example: i like the new lambo and audi's (both GT spec), they have grea accel, when i do qualy at P2 with lambo and see a P1 with a corvete ou viper, i thank god for it. D) Be patient, and let the fastest guy behind you go (its a good oportunity to see other drivers line and also when you behind your real pressure is do not hit the guy ahead while following him by less than a car of distance). Most guys at P5 - know they have chance to go podium so they are most likely to not ham ppl bcoz they know if you hit on purpose ppl will hit them back, and yes, ppl are always trying to get better driver rating, wich come from reach the podium at races.

[@ericrodriguez1013927]

Pretty much everyone sends it on the first turn trying to be first it’s horrible. I stop qualifying I start dead last and wait for the carnage to clear I’m not fast but I end up anywhere around 5-10 place😅

[@XNY_Music]

Welcome to Forza Horizon Motorsport!

[@andrereaves2712]

Same, id rather start in the back, though sometimes that'll bite you in the ass

[@LOLHICRONO]

7:53 lol that andre dude

[@kilo240]

I love your vids bro😁😁😄😄

[@thetakenking5693]

Forza players will never change and motorsport was supposed to be the game changer for forza communitys we thought they would finally redeem their place in the club of good sportman ship

[@andrehooker3229]

Whoever was driving that 98 Porsche GT1 fought through the grid and said " nope no more games since im free from the pack 😂😂😂

[@hausgeisttsiegsuah6666]

Thats what i say all the Time,in a Full Forza open Lobby,never do Qualy if you are aFast driver.You get at least 10 Places in the first 2 corners if you go slow and just watch them die ;)

[@Speed_hunter]

How come no one knows how to take the first turn and open lobby?

[@denshidirect3182]

1:28 RIP T.50 😂

[@stay-awhile1369]

I had fairly good luck my first few multiplayer matches. Qualified 2nd and 3rd and finished 3rd and 2nd. Got bumped around a little bit not too crazy

[@scuttdamutt]

Ok that’s it, 1 time off track in qualifying, not in throttle just understeer and .800 penalty! Rammed and no penalties dished out to the dirty bastards and now down from S 4788 to A 4501 today alone!!Done officially with this shit!

[@_krypton_9116]

my typical day at work 1:07-1:15😂

[@TheThermalLizard]

I think there should be harsher collision penalties and higher damage in public lobbies maybe people would actually race instead of playing bumper cars.

[@Trippy_Hawk]

This is one of the reasons why I stopped playing racing games online 😅

[@paulblackburn6289]

This is why I like GT7’s penalty system where as a bad driver serves a penalty within 1 lap and usually on a straight where it slows you down. This is good as it removes and penalizes bad drivers from the pack they are annoying. By just knocking of time at the end of the race as in Forza it keeps bad, aggressive drivers up front or around the courteous, respectful drivers. In GT7 when I see an ass clown get an penalty it’s enjoying to watch them disappear in the mirror as they serve it while ghosted.

[@chefcc90]

I am amazed you didn't get a penalty for causing that bowling alley crash!

[@sd7335]

So this is the real battle royale mode, not the Eliminator in FH5.

[@Z1SMITON_Carspotting]

Ayo that was me in Lamborghini Sian laughing at you

[@wickedvoid-]

I have sadly experienced this kind of fuckery in other titles😭

[@scuttdamutt]

Why does Forza have the worst drivers of any game? This needs to be spoken about desperately. I played ACC and even GT7 and there is no drivers worse than Forza’s SB community! I have bought and paid for every Forza released and the story hasn’t changed. At one point I stopped road racing and only did the drag racing because it was cleaner. It’s like most Forza players don’t under that you’re not supposed to contact the other cars around you, it’s road racing and not bumper cars. Not to mention the penalty system is broken!

[@totallyrealcat4800]

I think it's because forza doesn't have a License Test game mode like in Gran Turismo, so a lot of players don't know how to drive

[@absolem04]

I like this forza game but just watching the way people play online is deterring

[@WyntrWxlfStudios]

Im jealous that i cant start any lower than 19th when avoiding qualifying. Ive even tried sitting in the pit (menu) till race start and 16-19 is still the default. I do prefer the lower class races though. You still get carnage just at a way slower pace.

[@safedave9689]

need lobbies where everyone is ghosted be good to see how good these kids are then

[@a17waysJackinn]

4:53 itsnt this game dont makes any bloom light reflection on the car, look at the rear glass, some what cleaner and beautiful than gt7

[@GlobalCitizen369]

Cool video as usual

[@Pedi1348]

1:12 backtrack Killed me😂😂😂. Sidenote Is this on series x?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

PC

[@chanchehongsimonchan5114]

1:08 What the song.

[@kevinscheengsbier6130]

Just get in S 5000 lobbies its pretty chill there

[@IsuckAtDriving]

This is S 499x Do I need to upload more proof that S-rating 4900+ rating doesn't matter in Open Lobbies?

[@Kahfjdkaj]

I'm still at S 4998 after winning 2 more races. Can't get it to 5000 somehow😂

[@MGCMorph]

seems about right.

[@zzasboa]

It would have been good driving if that driving line was not there...

[@paulmarino8810]

At least you got to start the race. If i qualify in the top 3 right before the start of the race my game crashes back to the xbox home screen. My connection is foine.

[@fred420]

This about sums it up and is exactly what I do now.. pretty sad..

[@UnemployedProfessional]

Why are the cars flying at the end ?

[@yzreljadeeborde3754]

This is the reason why i still havnt installed forza motorsport too toxic

[@herrlehmann2101]

you could not turn off the breaking/ ideal line in this game?

[@DmytroBogdan]

I don't get the difference. Either way you start at the middle of the pack. Can anyone explain?

[@vanracer71]

nice driving.

[@torquelounge]

What are the odds that we're all experiencing the same issues? Are there really that many "bad" drivers playing this game?

[@Carnyzzle]

Yes shit drivers are in Forza, I played GT Sport a while back and I can tell you that I didn't experience the same problem with rammers too often over there

[@jamiepaget9466]

Literally every online racing game. It's why I just can't play them. They are populated by morons, who drive you absolutely insane.

[@UnameAJ]

It still confuse me till this day. What kind of people are they like ? These shameless rammers. Its like they never think about basic driving like cornering. Instead they just speeding in near corner and then ram other. Its like they never tap a brake. So lame

[@Qwnntm]

What skill rating / safety rating are you at?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

S-Rating 499x

[@Qwnntm]

@IsuckAtDriving it seems it's impossible to avoid these kind of drivers no matter how high your rating is smh. 4900s should not have racers like this but ig that's just how the Forza playerbase is. Night and day from the Assetto Corsa Competizione playerbase, there's still such a gap between simcades and sims.

[@gitgud5018]

agreed most of the time playing i got more clean races in nfs hot pursuit remastered compared to forza lol

[@flak8842]

The fact that the rammers still exist in this game makes the experience worse Stay Strong @isuckatdriving you got this

[@p.t.3726]

Hello, guys! Is it woth buying this game nowadays? Did they fix some problems present during release? I love FH5 but would like to try something more of an actual simulator with clear racing and penalties which can be run on PC. Would you reccomend this game? And if so, can mobile RTX2060 run it?

[@sharper9164]

I just ALT+F4 in FH5... I just cant take rammers anymore and 2,999 ten star hackers.

[@Rezar_racing]

Feel ya🎉

[@MIMCKMedia]

Everytime man :D

[@DED__PERDED]

Because the raitings don't work.

[@rdza-korozja_sp.z.o.o.]

Steven Seagal so quick

[@Alex-tu9bh]

The skill gap among drivers is huge

[@lilboiUK]

Nice racing

[@Boom3120]

Now this is racing !

[@LiubayChannel]

Nice game

[@cruz1785]

I play on Xbox is there a way to get some of your tunes on your cars? If you even sell them. My cars are like 3-5 seconds slower than top 5 on lobbies with 15 or higher.

[@rubenvolpicelli7829]

How is possible that porsche is 2 Sec fast than any other modern cars?

[@IsuckAtDriving]

Because it is meta.

[@turas7567]

Your gear shift in corner is dramatic

[@pheelmacababe2861]

im glad you play it so i dont have to! 🤣

[@rytwa9980]

I have the same in grand races in tcm

[@darkninja9499]

The grand races are something else 💀

[@tzertzeles_]

Gran tourismo 7 only

[@PHANTOM-ih4gx]

Well it def is more entertaining to watch

[@briansmith4642]

this is why I don't play any racing games online, Bunch of 12- to 15-year-olds who don't know how to plays and have C.O.D on the brain, who don't give respect to other plays who try to play a nice game.

[@intrig3138]

Гений! Волшебник!

[@wandersoncardoso6353]

There are some guys who have no idea about playing online.......

[@zverevar]

Why his cars go so fucking fast?

[@oxyriamz]

Rip

[@Jev6]

Game is trash - people that enjoy playing it competitively will call it “simcade” as if that partially legitimizes it as a real racer. Game is straight up doo doo.

[@Pilotfox123]

I don't know how this game works, but wouldn't it be faster to switch to a higher gear to power through a corner in low rpm's instead of letting the car idle through and loosing alot of speed due to the car understeering? Thats just my personal thoughts though, don't wanna say that you know nothin and i know it all, because i don't.

[@totallyrealcat4800]

Using a high gear would make you lose time if you need to shift down since the engine can go below the power band depending on how much speed you lose in the corner. You can blip the throttle to stay in the power band but you might end up under steering. If you look at the Forza analytics during tuning, you see that your car will be using the same amount of horsepower when you control the throttle on a lower gear or when you use a high gear and push the throttle.

[@Pilotfox123]

@@totallyrealcat4800 hmm ok.. well my thought process was that, since there is no continuous power the car would start breaking out towards the outside and the wheels would start acting as brakes, where as when you have power being aplied it gets pushed into the corner alot more. Atleast thats a phenomenon i noticed in other racing games

[@xshanklyxengland1531]

Instead of fixing the issues whats needed just add new tracks and cars great idea NOT

[@SabreT99]

Its Forza.