This Is Why You Type Jungle Diff.. (TSM vs C9) | IWD LCS Co-Stream ft. Nisqy & G2 Grabbz

[@Sarius-me2bh]

Give this guy his star

[@mahino420]

yes he has pink warded , i think tommy gives me hope that NA will make it to worlds and win

[@combustionsc2]

well that ending was depressing LMAO

[@lordheadass8310]

Love how Dom praised TL for doing something right by controling the choke and they just instantly fuq it up. NA caster curse is real man

[@Danieldjjang]

@Ethos Magnos wait but where did that come from? League's popularity is not what's in question here

[@Nanorox]

They did it for the start of the battle then all in, forgot to keep controlling the choke, got flanked and spanked.

[@swaghoe7880]

TOMMY GOLD STAR

[@kfirwitha82]

The comidic timing of you saying look how easy the fight is when you control the choke anf TL insta losing

[@TheUCruz]

Dom needs to have a talk with his thumbnail guy 😭🤣

[@Kestrel13]

C9 with the no-frontline team comp yet again poggers

[@JeremySteinWolfe98]

Lost to CLG poggers

[@caves5227]

“If tactical just had a mini map” I’m dying!

[@danielmoreno2969]

You can tell How much game knowledge have Grabbz and Dom in these games they know exactly the part when the game is lost, won or a critical mistake was made, and always the draft. and how blaber is so good and they know exactly how good his decisions are.

[@deathtoexistance]

In the TSM vs C9 did you not think there was a draft gap? I watched Doublelifts perspective on this game and he said that yes they got the perfect early game, but as they scale into the game no one can facecheck bushes to get vision and they have almost no frontline to play vs tsm. apparently spica also though this and so didn't tilt in game. Do you think this game is more winnable for C9 if played properly even with the scaling issues?

[@mendezst.6949]

Another quality "IWCrackinate" thumbnail

[@Lost_isle]

Is it just me or does dom look sickly in these thumbnails?

[@bcoyne12345]

2:30 Shen is such a good ninja you cant even see him in game

[@wahhellothere1063]

Perfect intro music to accompany this game

[@14ronn13]

NA is actually doomed when even Dom says maybe importing is actually right xD

[@jabbethewolfmanxD]

This "by the way" phrase, needs to stop plzzzz... cant unhear

[@MasterMinderLp]

I feel like perkz really misses the "make plays or lose" mentality they have in g2, he needs those ppl who commit to plays wherever they take place.

[@ssfrost1337]

No he just plays bad atm

[@SXLLXNBXE]

kinda

[@JustShotsForMeh]

Top doesn't TP when his Tristana gets caught, and suddenly he's the guy with the "Team mate social issue" The mentality is truly holding this region back.

[@Terrabreak133]

15:28 - Not playing around lvl 2 advantage, people at like silver know about this at this point - Doesnt exhaust the second he gets pulled, only does so after getting chunked to 1/4 of his hp - Exhaust Nautilus - Doesnt even flash What's going on here?

[@Choco-li5tm]

U are right but the Xayah has the exhaust, not Leona

[@loxul2239]

Worst part though...is they still win...sadge.

[@toadftw23]

17:00 corejj and jensen loses their mind a little, both use hard CC on finn in river instead of blocking the choke. This allows WildTurtle in.

[@frodawe]

when u cant trust broxah to smite so u take chogath

[@christiancorse4241]

Take a shot anytime someone says "by the way" because of Nisqy

[@no.1partyanthem]

thank you for 60fps mr editor

[@Tie_vfx]

You're welcome.

[@SNNHTatsuya]

Ah good to hear the OG outro again,also Dom about not having any good teams what is your opinion on Dignitas

[@kotikkotik945]

You don't watch facecheck I assume, since he has made it clear that he thinks they aren't actually good but keep getting away with murder. If you're really interested go watch his podcast its on the venn esports channel. Having him explain it is always more credible than a random on the internet so if you want to know more about it...

[@maxxvii2037]

They really spent 11millions on Perkz huh

[@Colossus42069]

stixxay makes kaisa look like a balanced champion

[@joshb5504]

I enjoy watching this commentary over the normal game streams. More like a game with the boys. :)

[@CuzzNZ]

How does it take a week for these to come out? Editors working so slow

[@somebodyintheworld5036]

Am I crazy? Is this deja vu? I could've sworn the TSM v C9 game was covered already when they invade at level 1.

[@Rageduncan1]

Yeah they already talked about it a lot on facecheck :)

[@fbiagent6456]

Fudge

[@thrashedboy4mylife]

Why CoreJJ had Zhonyas? O:

[@sev9957]

Fuck yes Ry0ma is back

[@vorvv]

I read some shit about fudge throwing games every now and then on purpose for some reason and I'm starting to believe it

[@vanixiii5657]

The TL loss they just need better drafting...the TSM loss was a shitshow...and now losing to clg??? Clown9 really living up to that name...little did they know they didnt get perkz but instead craps cosplaying as perkz

[@sethg2179]

Everytime i think NA has a chance internationally i watch Doms stream and realize ive been hittin the pipe too hard

[@SuspenseGames]

I mean... he made a brand out of shitting on NA because people enjoy it. As long as NA doesn't actually win at worlds (which is obviously in his favor) he can just shit on them forever. Even when NA teams play well he can say shit like "It's sad you can take a 10th-11th place LPL team and they'd still beat NA teams." C9 vs 10th-11th LPL? This shit gets said every damn year and is never true but people love the narrative because it's shitting on NA.

[@sethg2179]

@@SuspenseGames did you watch worlds? NA was a shitshow LOL. C9 was on a hot streak as well and they didnt even make it to worlds. I think the criticism is pretty well founded.

[@sethg2179]

@@SuspenseGames and i specifically said internationally my guy

[@coupdegrace2767]

@@SuspenseGames your 1st place team literally jobbed to every single region and went 0/6 in Groups. It doesn't get worse than this. And competition in LPL is way more severe, even 10th place teams have to fight their way up there, they are not there, because of fat paychecks and imports.

[@sushi2933]

Spica somehow always win 50-50 smites dam

[@Nanorox]

I feel like they didnt know how to control the choke. Its like they freaking forgot that... No choke control = ez flank

[@TheLordofSilence]

I really don't like the C9 vs IG comparison. Not to say C9 is a top tier team internationally or anything, but IG as a team is pretty well suited to take advantage of C9's weakest point (that is, topside). Moreover, the LPL as a league has an extremely stacked middle with teams like JDG and Suning. 10th place also sounds a lot worse for people familiar with LEC, LCS or LCK, but LPL has 17 teams, not 10, so 10th place is not as low as it might seem to some. Compare C9 to KT Rolster in Korea or SK in Europe and it seems way better. If it has to be an LPL team, then an actual lower tier team would be someone like TT or OMG, against whom C9 matches up a lot better. Also, having the matchup specifically be without scrims is a bit unfair, since there would be scrims before and during an international tournament. Being able to play against good teams instead of trash ones can be extremely useful for refocusing how a team like C9 would approach a match. Again, North America's top teams are still far behind the top teams from the true major regions, I just object to the comparison with Invictus Gaming specifically.

[@zerquex4520]

the difference between LEC and LCS is widening with every season lmfao

[@lorddakka7707]

What's with the censoring him saying fuck sometimes and not other times?

[@damienwood384]

Yessss Dom

[@AbraixHTX]

if u aint first ur last

[@Justthatboss]

I love how instead of playing the clown world music the intro is playing Lulu and Shaco’s Quirky Encounter. Better chill before riot copyright strikes you

[@carjack1195]

why is ryoma back, like why would u want him on ur team

[@josephnolan6323]

tommy is the gold star champion man

[@josephwright8752]

The pride of na......

[@richardo62]

💜

[@Nani-nh6qz]

TL needs a new coach they have the better players and still loses to clg

[@chasemaclennan5697]

Clg a dark horse team, don’t sleep on them I expect them to make playoffs in the summer

[@bomnitoperro9422]

@@chasemaclennan5697 xd

[@TRevelationP]

C9 needs a new coach they have the better players and still loses to clg

[@Nani-nh6qz]

C9 is regretting paying so much for perkz, every game he gets capped by POE

[@slix2011]

What do you mean every game? what is this take xd

[@lucasalarcon3230]

@@slix2011 lock in was POE vs the world and in the first regular season game they were even but both mid are taking to many resources anyways the only two mid that get everthing are jizuke and insanity every other just hand shake or blind pick

[@marconeves8089]

Lol c9 is shilling

[@BCulles]

And I guess TSM is regretting paying so much for huni it cancels out wooo

[@frodawe]

Its always jg diff

[@scootersquadsam]

Hey dom

[@Rentou23]

Hello Dom

[@crisramirezbeats9575]

Crackhead thumbnail

[@andrewzix8442]

Close

[@olivergonzalez497]

I mean spica was tilted for sure but it seems dom was way more tilted than spica lmao

[@LucasMogensenn]

"This Is Why You Type Jungle Diff" Didnt you mean This is where you type jungle diff?

[@DrMetalPunk]

In before TSM community exiles Spica out of TSM and he joins different team for next season and does well

[@gull8473]

why cant you ff yet in LCS lol

[@equalix4147]

Sad Na dont have one good team atm :(

[@leonpaul6198]

:)

[@Damodaran_Disciple]

Can we just admit already that perkz is omega overrated?

[@archaontheeverchosen539]

Maybe maybe not i would wait for playoffs and possibly msi to judge

[@BCulles]

I mean if you're surrounded by clowns you have no choice but to join the circus

[@Damodaran_Disciple]

@@BCulles i would say he runs the circus tho

[@Damodaran_Disciple]

@@archaontheeverchosen539 ok maybe he is like hyli But you gotta admit he has been trolling

[@archaontheeverchosen539]

@@Damodaran_Disciple he is not alone in the trolling lol

[@bilawalkhan6344]

almost First

[@indominable7909]

Lol that IG vs C9 comparison is bs its not like IG is bad standing does not tell the story in lpl IG gave EDG their 1st lose and EDG was considered a unbeatable team in LPL so them facing C9 would really be close to even sinve IG atm is coin flippy one day they can be the Champs they were the next day they can become a mediocre team

[@nephillim8641]

TSM didn't win cause they were good but because C9 was bad. They didn't deserve that win no matter what TSM or NA fans say. In any other region if the 1st seed team gets a lead like C9 did its game over.

[@gtwithgabe9196]

I can apply this logic to any win in any region.

[@xEmpress95]

@@gtwithgabe9196 True, but how often do you see Damwon KIA, RNG, EDG or even RGE drop games from ahead? There's a reason that the win loss ratios of every top team so far ranks as: Pentanet : 8-0 (100%) [1st Seed LCO] DWG KIA : 13-1 (93%) [1st Seed LCK] PSG Talon : 12-1 (92%) [1st Seed PCS] RNG : 11-1 (92%) [1st Seed LPL] Unicorns & OBG : 7-1 (88%) [1st Seeds LCL] GAM Esports : 7-1 (88%) [1st Seed VCS] G2 Esports : 13-2 (87%) [1st Seed LEC] Supermassive : 12-2 (86%) [1st Seed TCL] Peace : 6-1 (86%) Detonation : 12-2 (85%) [1st Seed LJL] EDG : 10-2 (83%) Beyond : 10-2 (83%) Flamengo : 13-3 (81%) [1st Seed CBLOL] Rogue : 12-3 (80%) Crowcrowd : 6-2 (80%) Wildcats : 11-3 (79%) Furious Gaming : 9-3 (75%) [1st Seed LLA -- From what I could research] Red Kalunga : 12-4 (75%) SAIGON : 6-2 (75%) Cloud 9 : 11-4 (73%) [First Seed LCS] Rascal Jester : 10-4 (71%) Gen.G : 10-4 (71%) Dignitas & TSM : 10-5 (66%) All Knights : 8-4 (66%) LCS's first seed is in the bottom six of that ranking. And while, yes, this is hardly a scientific method, and a lot of winrates for some leagues are skewed by game numbers and will likely shift as those respective regions play more games, the general standings still remain pretty alarming for the current first place LCS. And if you want to say it's because it's a more competitive region... I mean... Look at the LCK, LPL and LEC rankings. Only the LCK second seed has less than an 80% winrate. Which is also the only second seed from a major region that C9 is remotely close to. And honestly, if you had to bet your money on Gen.G or C9, who would you pick?

[@gtwithgabe9196]

@@xEmpress95 imagine going by win loss percentage and comparing them inter regionally. You can't extrapolate anything from that since it obviously omits context. Plus it's a different ball park when you do bo1's. You wasted all that time only to come out looking dumb as hell. High variance numnuts.

[@gtwithgabe9196]

Also by your analysis wildcards out of SA, are better and more consistent then the top LCK and Chinese teams. Lmaooooo

[@xEmpress95]

@@gtwithgabe9196 Imagine ignoring half my comment? I already noticed that the analysis wasn't scientific and that wilcards and lower game tournaments would skew results. It was obvious as Hell that Pentanet were not actually in league with DWG KIA. And I'd originally only included the LCK, LEC, LPL and LCS but then figured if I'd only then that people would then just point out that I omitted the rest of the leagues that are world=-qualifying os included them, too. And while true that BO1's are a very different ball game, consider that both the LCS and LEC follow a BO1 format. And still prove my point. Also you can see just by looking at the execution of RNG, EDG, DWG KIA and G2 this season that there's a big difference between them and C9. And speaking of BO3's... Should I point out all the 0-3's in the Lock-In Tournament? Or how C9 barely lucked out in a reverse sweep versus 100T only to have Fudge exposed by Alphari -- An LEC import on Team Liquid who slumped throughSpring split and just gave CLG a free win? I wasn't JUST going by winrates. It's in the execution of these teams that allow them ot have high winrates. C9 has proven, meanwhile, time and again that they are not untouchable. They're 0-3 versus Team Liquid so far and lost to them in the Lock-In Finals. TL meanwhile have dropped games that make almost no sense across the board outside of C9, including CLG. While the rest of the LCS have had extremely coinflippy games based on throws rather than execution. But, eh, this is ultimately all conjecture. I hope C9 and TL turn it around more. And I hope that whoever shows up at MSI does well. And whoever shows up at Worlds doesn't go 0-6 this time. Not that Blaber/Zven/Vulcan made it to Worlds last year after choking the summer playoffs to a roster FlyQuest chose to completely blow up this year and rebuild from scratch. And here's the thing: I don't even hate NA. I love C9. I'm hopefully for EG, DIG and 100T. And I hope TSM and TL do continue in their upward trajectory. But to say that Damwon or G2 or RNG or EDG or Rogue would frequently blow leads like C0's over this weekend. Or would ever lose to Afreeca Freecs, Astralis or Rogue Warriors like TL lost to CLG is an absurd notion. Also a waste of time implies I don't enjoy this. Just saying. AndI genuinely don't think I come out looking stupid. But sure, grasp your straws and hurl your petty insults. It doesn't change the fact that every time NA has been in remote contention for internationals success they've been consistently beaten out by the LEC, LCK and LPL.And that this years doesn't seem any different. In fact, last year at Worlds, neither FlyQuest, TSM or TL advanced from Groups or placed above an LCK, LPL or LEC team in their group. Hm. Y'know, this is fun. But let's just base it off your own metric. So which metrics SHOULD be analysed the best get an idea of the current standings and strength of the Season 11 LCS rosters? Because so far all we have is the LCS trading wins back and forth largely based on team throws while the rest of the first seeds like G2, RNG and DWG remain consistent in their wins and losses. I guess we just wait and see. MSI is coming up. And Season 11 is still young. The LCS saw a LOT of team overhauls, so it's only natural that there's kinks to be worked out. So here's hoping.