This ISN'T "Drama." This Is Serious. My Thoughts On The BOOZOR Conflict.

[@McNeo2]

Theres a simple math: Boozer got his CC rewards because he was top player ie. he did not become top player because of CC rewards. As his second account, that is untouched of any rewards, is in top, proves it. He became top player as FTP, made tons of videos, and then, finally got rewarded of that. So, for me, he is still FTP.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I like that "Boozer got his CC rewards because he was top player ie. he did not become top player because of CC rewards." Well said. 👍

[@andre97621]

No he still received gems from being a reddit mod

[@shane_d_au]

Facts. He plays from a F2P perspective (regardless of the CC rewards) and all his content is that context.

[@charlesklein6399]

Nope, sorry, that’s not how that works. Doesn’t matter what he USED to be, only matters what he is now. He gets access to tons of valuable resources that normal players don’t, FTP or not. He’s getting “paid” to be in the program.

[@Morribo]

F2P doesn't mean you don't get paid, it means you don't pay

[@Saddamharam]

I was waiting for your take on this. Colred #1

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

🥇

[@stanleyclark923]

Let me preface what I'm about to say with this. I'm not ftp. I don't care who is or isn't. I follow and watch all of you guys because I love your content. But................. You are all wrong. It's illogical thinking when HH says that "anyone can do it" when it comes to getting CC rewards. That's not really an equal playing field unless EVERYONE can do it. And as you stated yourself, clearly not everyone can do it or else you wouldn't have been rejected. If 1,000 of us suddenly made channels, got the min reqs and applied, would we all be accepted? No, so by extension they wouldn't give us all CC rewards if 10,000 or 100,000 of us did it. So not "anyone" can do it. Again, I don't care. Just wish people would stop making that illogical argument. Boozor made the same comment and it's just not true. I believe he compared it to getting the rewards from the Referral Program. lol And here's where you got it wrong. If I win a few gems from your giveaway, anyone actually could have won that. That's just RNG. I got a Trunda 1 shard after I had just pulled a lego. That RNG doesn't make me not FTP, assuming that I was. That giveaway is a gift from Plarium to the general public. They don't hand select who gets them like they do with CC rewards so that's not a very good comparison. Also, we're talking about CC rewards that go on and on each week -- not just a one-time 500 shards or whatever. Also, you don't get to just count up the $$ value of your account as an argument because I have the same opportunity to participate in every even you do. How dedicated you are compared to someone who isn't FTP is a non sequitur. If this were the baseball hall of fame, Boozor would probably have an asterisk by his name in the FTP hall. By definition he has not spent a dime, thus FTP. And if my mom gives me a $100 pack each week I haven't spent a dime either. I mean anyone can just get their mom to do it right? That's available to anyone (HH's argument). I'm just being devil's advocate. I really could care less. Love all you guys but that whole line of argument you're making doesn't match your stellar grasp of logic and reason.

[@andre97621]

Correct take. He'll those gifts have more value than low spenders. 2300 a yewr in gifts a year. That's nuts.

[@stanleyclark923]

@@andre97621 Thank you. I just think it's an argument of semantics really. I studied law in college so I'm fully aware of the letter of the law vs. the spirit of the law. By the letter he's absolutely FTP. By the spirit... that's where some people have an issue. I personally don't care. I just like to argue online.

[@EssEmm-l8z]

I think there's a fundamental disconnect when ppl use the "but my mom bought it, not me" argument. It doesn't fully align. If anybody is spending money/monetary currency (whether you or your mom/spouse/friend, etc.) it's not FTP because someone paid for it. It's like buying milk -- if you buy it, or someone else buys it for you, it's paid for. Sometimes the owner of the cow may give you a cup of it to continue enticing you to buy their milk. But if you have opportunities to go milk the cow yourself, then you didn't have to buy it with money...that's how I see the CC perks in Boozor's case. He found opportunities to milk the cow himself. I use this analogy because milking cows is hard work and not everyone feels that is accessible.

[@vyvy-16]

@@EssEmm-l8z if Plarium gifted you a master account with every mythical and legendary fully empowered, full souls, full books, for free. It would be technically F2P, but would it be fair to group it with regular F2P accounts?

[@PopcornNZ]

The question raised was whether Boozor is F2P. As you confirmed, technically he is F2P. So question answered. All the other stuff you discussed involves different issues. Also the argument about your mum spending is irrelevant - for a logical and coherent discussion about the issue of Boozor as F2P, you need to think in terms of a F2P account not a F2P individual. If your mum spent $1 on your account it's no longer a F2P account.

[@tamster2003]

I honestly don’t understand why this is an issue. I think you’ve very eloquently described why he deserves the CC items and how he’s still F2P

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you. I wish all players felt the same way, but that's never the case with any topic, let alone this one. I do appreciate your support. 👍

[@anacarolinapereira4499]

This was the best video on this subject I've seen including Boozor's own videos. I was already a subscriber of his channel and now I am of yours as well! I hope you get into the CC program soon, good luck! Thanks for all you do, it makes a different to average players like myself.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you! I appreciate the words of support. Welcome to the channel!! 🫡

[@FelrausRSL]

The root of the issue is people putting too much of their identity into their F2P status in Raid. It's a game, it doesn't and shouldn't define us as people. It's there for us to have fun with, however we choose how. People question Boozor's integrity not because of any fault on his part, but because they feel like he's called his own integrity, maybe even his personal identity, into question (and, of course, he hasn't). It's a game, that's it. We can't put too much stock into it, because one day it will disappear. Boozer makes good content, I couldn't care less if he's F2P. If that's how he wants to play, that's cool, and he makes content that helps others who play the game the same way. But calling his personal identity into question based on his perceived status on a gamer is just a crappy thing to do. In short, people are making a big deal out of nothing that really matters. Boozor, ignore the haters. They're in the wrong. Pick yourself up and keep going, we all love your videos.

[@Azlit]

Anyone can grind up to be a content creator and get the rewards. Someone else’s achievements shouldn’t cause all this hate.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Well said!

[@lemiserable8861]

Anyone, not everyone.

[@nepoznali]

There are two types of players, those who did not spend money and those who spent money. The fact that he uses all possible options to get resources and spend them rationally, that is skill, knowledge, and persistence. Jealousy, and maybe the bad intention of some KZbinrs, stands behind these attacks. He helped a lot, especially f2p players, and I thank him for that.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you for that clear, concise POV. I think there are two arguments being made against Boozor. The first is that he's not F2P. The second is that he's not F2P, he knew he wasn't F2P, and he hid the fact to somehow try and deceive his audience. The first is worth discussing, though I think most people agree with you: F2P means not spending. The second argument is likely caused by what you mentioned as well - jealousy and bad intentions. I don't even know what to do with people who make that argument, other than disagree and move on. Thanks for the comment!

[@christianoragui9133]

This is a great argument against those questioniing Boozor's FTP Status. His content on FTP helped me understand the game, level up and handle my resources as a FTP very well. Boozor's an EXCELLENT GENIUS at this game, He is 1000% FTP. His insight on it is top notch. He's a great guy.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I agree. And yet, it seems from the comments to this video, at least, that very few people were convinced. If they felt Boozor isn't F2P before, they still do. Ah, well. I had hope to change some minds, but I'll settle for just supporting Boozor publicly. He deserves it.

[@RonHunt-e8g]

Boozor has helped my game more than any other CC. You said it all, Colred

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thanks! Boozor's the man. 👍

[@charleswable3339]

im not even a hard and fast boozer fan, but this makes me so mad because I share a macrocommunity with such idiots

[@JoMan-b9d]

The issue with this whole situation is that the people on both sides care about very different things. Everyone defending BOOZOR wants to argue about how good he is and that the ressources he gets do not take away from his knowledge and account management skills. Everyone who want BOOZOR to stop claiming F2P arent questioning any of these assertions. They are focused on the fact that the F2P experience most of them are going through is so vastly different from his experience. That he is not a good measurement of what the average F2P player could achieve if he is using his ressources perfectly, which everybody made him out to be (i dont know if he ever claimed it himself). So they can still obviously learn from his knowledge, but they just got their dream snuffed out of what their account could look like if they put in tons of effort but not money. I can understand why that would make a few ppl step over the line aswell but im glad most of the conversation im seeing here is very respectful. Can he claim F2P? I dont know. Can his account be what the average F2P player expect if they put in years of grinding? Definitely no.

[@Cosmos.Odyssey]

That's all he had to do: Stop claiming the F2P. And all this "drama" never would of happen. Everyone knows he is a very good CC and a very good player. But he kept claiming he is F2P, which is a lie. And it's dishonest to his viewers. And all that Colred and the other CCs are doing now it's just mental gymnastics. Nothing more.

[@aftanprodhan]

@JoMan-b9d yeah he can he's got a second account that's enough proof

[@JoMan-b9d]

@@aftanprodhan again, thats mostly missing the point though. Yes, sure he can claim it. But people still shouldnt look at his main account and go "yeah if i go F2P for a few years this is what i can get". He should use his second account for reference more :)

[@aftanprodhan]

@JoMan-b9d I mean there isnt much difference in them he just one longer than the other either way he can claim himself 50 percent f2p

[@mgpdevil]

​@@JoMan-b9dThere isn't much difference between the accounts. Even the "true" f2p is above what even 90% of spenders have accomplished. So yes anyone with dedication, skill and time can reach the top of the game. At least up until recently. Plarium's continued greed probably doing it harder by the day.

[@r.j.s.m4902]

It's the false expectation that people think they can do what Boozer is doing and then realize they can't because he has had this all along. tell me if both of you are in the same bracket in tournament and both of you claim your FTP, don't you think he has the advantage over you because of that content creator program?

[@SKMiningGuru]

@@r.j.s.m4902 💯 He has an Upper hand

[@mgpdevil]

Had this all along? To my understanding he only got this since recently? Anyway one look at his other account shows it's possible for anyone with dedication, skill and time.

[@Dayraven0]

Colred, great video - thank you. I appreciate your perspective on the topic matter, especially as a FTP content creator. On the whole, I agree with your analysis with some noteworthy exceptions. Firstly, you stated your a new subscriber to Boozer's channel. As such, I was somewhat surprised in the conclusive assertions sprinkled throughout your monolgue (e.g. Boozer has never; Boozer always...) since by your own admission, the vast body of Boozer's video catalog (which you listed as over a thousand) you have never seen. Remember, it was Boozer's devoted fan base (subscribers) not the outsiders who were most surprised/disappointed in his admission of having a multi-million dollar company sponsor in Plarium, providing vast amounts of resources under the table, that in your own words 'have real world monetary value'. If it was 'never kept a secret' as you assert, the backlash/fallout from Boozors followers (of which I happily, and still count myself) would not have been as dramatic, or to use your preferred adjective 'serious' upon full disclosure. Secondly, your justification as to why Boozor deserves these resources proves succinctly the argument for the counter narrative. Boozer is working, sir. He is working outside of the game, for Plarium, with personal production tools far separate from the program/game itself. In return for his labor, he is paid with in game resources that amount to about $3000 USD annually. The sidebar discussions as to how much of these resources are used to generate content or if the CC really deserves them, are moot. Therefore, respectfully, I must conclude he is NOT F2P. Does that mean I'll unsubsribe from Boozor's channel? Heck no! He is my favorite CC at the moment and the fact that he is wrestling/struggling with this issue proves he has a moral compass - yet another reason to be a fan/subscriber.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Hey! You bring up some good points. Let me clarify. 1) I've been watching Boozor videos for about a year. I just never got around to subscribing - an oversight on my part. So, I am familiar with his channel to a fair extent. 2) It only takes one instance of someone admitting something publicly in order for it to not be a secret. Hence my mention of it "not coming up that often." It doesn't have to. It's in the public record. That's enough. But if anyone still objects, I would just point them to Boozors official KZbin channel "about" section. The first item states very clearly "100% Free to Play End Game player in Raid Shadow Legends." The very next item states "Official Plarium Content Creator." Anyone who states Boozor was hiding something is both not paying attention and wrong, or they are actively and knowingly lying. (To be clear, I'm not accusing you of this, btw). 3) I'm not sure it's fair to consider Boozor as working for Plarium and his CC rewards being payment, because Plarium isn't actively involved in our content creation and the rewards come with no responsibilities or duties attached. I think it fairer to say that the CC rewards represent a token of appreciation. That hurts me to say, because I have little love for Plarium, but I think it's the best description of those rewards. And, more than that, those rewards are available to other F2P players if they want to pursue them. So, I believe Boozor is F2P. But, while we disagree, I appreciate your approach to this discussion. You clearly respect Boozor and support his channel and you're not out here flaming him or anyone who disagrees with you. I wish more community disputes would unfold like this discussion we're having right here.

[@Dunkirk101]

Thank you for finally bringing up points that I have been trying to make in the comments in defense of Boozor! Love love love your takes! It is a shame you aren’t in the cc program.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

You are welcome! Boozor's a good guy. He doesn't deserve this backlash, and I'm happy to say so. Maybe someday I'll be in the CC program. Maybe not. I've made my peace with it.

[@sanclaire]

I agree with most of the comments FTP is you do not put you hand in your pocket, if you gain anything within game it is what it is. FTP

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I agree. Thanks for the comment!

[@adejones2340]

Isn't there a way to find out if he is a 100% FTP by looking at his account, HH did this with Eharbad and showed he didn't spend on the game ??

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

There was a glitch for a while that allowed you to see how much you spent in game, but it's been patched. Maybe HH used that? The only other way I could see to maybe find out how much someone has spent is to go through their Google Play account receipts, but that feels less certain to me (because it doesn't include Plarium purchases, etc).

[@janosaudron564]

If you have not spent a Dime on the game, and you managed to have the game pay you to play it via RSS, then you are not only F2P, but a Genius. Boozor is holding his own in the Endgame against people who Spent $1m on these pixels... it's like going into the Casino and picking up a $3ticket and NEVER Loosing despite the house Comping you.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Beautifully said. I agree 100%.

[@janosaudron564]

@@ColredPlaysRSL one can add that we never should forget what he had to go through to get to where he is. He was Endgame F2P before he was a content creator. And he still to this day hoards RSS and only levels out a Champion if he will add value to his account

[@aleks4832]

Great video, well thought out as always, and I really appreciate your calm, collective, and reasonable approach to the situation. I agree with you 100%.

[@Leoti42]

I love both your and Boozers content and I’ve told him so. My opinion doesn’t change on that. But, I’m not on the same page that he’s FTP in the same sense that all the rest of us are. I’m 3 years in on one of my FTP accounts and that level of resources would have made an enormous difference in my progress. I don’t really care much about labels, but I don’t think it’s comparable to say someone with that level of resources every week is the same as someone who doesn’t get that. That doesn’t mean I’m mad at him or I don’t like his content, just that it’s something different than what the rest of us are doing.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I appreciate your take on the situation, and the respectful way you delivered your critique. Thank you for that. As to your point, I think it's fair to say that Boozor's experience isn't typical for F2Pers. But that's very different than saying he is NOT F2P. The best F2Per in the game and the average F2Per in the game will likely have experiences that are more different than your experience is to Boozor's. Does that mean the best F2Per in the game doesn't qualify as F2P, simply because he's too good for others to relate to? I don't think so. I think the best F2Per is simply performs the best in RAID without spending money. Boozor may not be the best F2Per ever, but he's certainly in the top 1%, and one of the reasons why is that he went and got those sweet, sweet CC rewards. But the truth is, he was that good before he became a CC. The rewards didn't make the man. The man just made it to the rewards that most of us can't get.

[@Leoti42]

@@ColredPlaysRSL I think you both are in the top 1%. :). Thanks for the comment.

[@Dharin.]

Well said Colred. Time is also a resource, and CC's creating content speeds up time for many players by giving information that everyone else would have to use figuring it out for themselves without that content to bypass the personal learning process, effort, and resources wasted it takes to "get good" at this or any other game. Without the likes of you, Boozor, and every other CC giving their time, resources and in many cases RL money, then each of us would have to do so for ourselves all the time. People need to think, including those f2p players that are saying that he is not really f2p, and I am a spender that it's coming from, but I also have f2p accounts too, so I know both sides of the coin... How much effort, time, and/or money would it cost you to learn what just one video has taught you and rethink your attitude. Are you really free to play, when resources you've earned have been saved by someone else helping you keep them by giving you information that cost them resources to use to work out and give you those unspent learning resources you would have used finding those answers for yourself? You simply are given the gift of knowledge that another had to pay for, in this case, time, and you get to use those real resources, energy and/or silver saved to improve your experience playing and doing other things that will gain you even more resources. Those people are not f2p either then by those standards too imo. How far do we want to go when pointing fingers? I remember the pole you are talking about, and it was in a live stream that you did when you had first qualified for the CC program almost a year ago now, and wanted to know what your community thought about whether you should go into it or not. It was overwhelmingly in support of you taking the resources to further improve your already great content and we did not think or believe it would invalidate your f2p status one iota. There were a few dissenters, but even they weren't strongly opposed as I remember. So much so, they accepted the majority view without complaint or threat to leave if you did take the CCP resources as a creator who is entitled to them to help you produce even more content.. I wrote this in that Boozor video you highlighted near the end as I have followed him from around the same time as I started follow your cc journey... You are f2p in my eyes. I always knew that CC's got some resources for being in the CCP and I view it as "help" towards creating content. It helps, but does not fully compensate for all that you have to do to push certain types of videos out. Now, just put this "storm in a teacup" event behind you and concentrate on producing the great content you have become known for. Haters, will be haters and your star is rising and many just can't stand success, because they haven't got the time, skill and/or inclination to "work hard" to do what you do. It's all there for anyone to try to get, so they need to "get good" and do it, or stfu imo.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you, Dharin! You make some really good points, and I'm glad you remember the poll. It was during a livestream - I think a Noob vs Pro livestream if I recall correctly - but I didn't have the time or energy to dig through and actually find it (I did try for about 20 minutes before I gave up). And I think your point about CCs saving other people resources is spot on. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I became a CC - so others could learn from my mistakes and hopefully avoid them. I'm not sure how that reflects on Boozor's F2P status exactly, but it's important to remember. Again, thanks for the comment! I appreciate hearing your thoughts on the matter. 🫡

[@Dharin.]

@@ColredPlaysRSL I can be a pain in the butt for many a CC as I have strong opinions too, but I respect everyone of them for their knowledge and hard work to give the player base the best possible route to success from their own extensive knowledge and experience. To say because someone gets something that is open to all who try to get into the cc program by creating a channel and content... well perhaps not all... cough, cough, mention no notable names overlooked ofc lol. is "gaining an unfair advantage," "not having the same experience as other f2p players" or is, "not f2p" because it has a monetary value is quite frankly an absurdity when you look at what it takes to build a single champ, and test before even making the video. Most smaller CC's will still be at a loss most times in resources used for what they get. If you do 2/3 champ vids in a week, you certainly are going to be in a net negative situation. We have come to a place now where people don't look or think beyond the surface and are ready to jump on anyone for the slightest little thing. I'd simply say to anyone, just go build 1 champ from scratch and see how many resources it took to do that. do the testing in the content you built them for, then multiply it by how many vids are produced per week costing resources before you scream too loudly, remembering that you may build a champ for one purpose. CC's build it to test everywhere, and not all of it will be done on the test server either. Most don't have that access, and Boozor only just got it. He also took 2 accounts to end game before he became a cc too. His experience was the same as any f2p, just with a different roster to get there.

[@realtree.j]

I said this on Boozer's channel and will here. Is he an amazing cc that is worthy of watching...absolutely...for spenders and f2p alike. Is his cc account indicative of f2p experience...no. It can not be called a f2p account when its not what anybody else that downloads the game would experience. Its up to us as viewers to take what he says and decipher to it being applicable for our accounts... The easy "fix" to the "controversy" is during said vids, just put a disclaimer like he does his gear cleanse vids where he highlights for people to analyze their own accounts and not blindly copy stuff. Then there shouldnt be an issue. He definitely deserves the perks...for sure

[@michaelbenti5383]

100!

[@vristlol4369]

Agreed!

[@FrankieCRO]

I disagree. I have played for about 4 and a half years now, never spent a dime and my account isn't far off from his. The small difference in our accounts are mainly due to me not investing as much time as he does nor being as efficient. Secondly it's due to me despising live arena and finally there's rng regarding pulls, souls, gear etc. He's 100% f2p and if you're as efficient and good at the game for a long period of time, your account can be as good.

[@Dharin.]

I will just point out that Boozor's journey to end game on 2 accounts happened before he got into the CCP and started receiving those perks. He played for almost 4 years f2p before starting to make YT vids and the process of getting into the CCP. Don't invalidate all that because now he has something that anyone can get if they wished to. Whitewashing history has become all to frequent and it's lazy thinking imo. You could reasonably say that in recent times his experience no longer matches that of other f2p players, and that would be true ofc, but he got there the same way you are getting there, or have already reached. That journey is the experiences his falling back on and he is a lifelong f2p player, so he absolutely knows what it means to be f2p as shown by his content. It's a semantic view because if you watch any video that a CC produces and that saves you 1 resource then you "technically" gain something that has a monetary value attached to it. He gave you a perk of saving time and those resources you would have to use experimenting to gain that knowledge yourself. Are you still f2p then?

[@realtree.j]

@@Dharin. .the beginning of your second paragraph is EXACTLY what im saying. I never once whitewashed what Boozer has accomplished. I said EVERYONE should watch his content cause they WILL learn something. I know I have. But new players are going to come to youtube to look for videos of players that are f2p and run in to Boozer and its NOT going to be an accurate representation of what actual f2p is. Which IS an accurate statement. Even Colred said in the video(when referencing someone that was a whale and is now f2p) that you may now be a f2p player but your account is not...Boozer's account that has the extra perks IS along those same parameters. I love Boozer's content and will continue to support him. He DESERVES all the perks. But lets call a spade...a damn spade, bro

[@GamerDadLife]

Solid video and perspective. First time watching your videos but you got my subscription because of your level headed views.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Hey, thanks! And welcome to the channel!

[@YksiSuomalainen]

So for example if your employer, mom or friend buys your account Raid resources worth ~$500 a month would you call that account a F2P account?

[@EssEmm-l8z]

No. And I think there's a fundamental disconnect when ppl use the "but my mom bought it, not me" argument. It doesn't fully align. If anybody is spending money/monetary currency (whether you or your mom/spouse/friend, etc.) it's not FTP because someone paid for it. It's like buying milk -- if you buy it, or someone else buys it for you, it's paid for. Sometimes the owner of the cow may give you a cup of it to continue enticing you to buy their milk. But if you have opportunities to go milk the cow yourself, then you didn't have to buy it with money...that's how I see the CC perks in Boozor's case. He found opportunities to milk the cow himself. I use this analogy because milking cows is hard work and not everyone feels that is accessible.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

No. And that's an interesting point. So let's examine that a little bit: Plarium gives us all 20 energy per hour, as long as we're under the energy cap. Is Plarium paying us to play their game? Because it's coming from the same source. The obvious answer is no. It's just a mechanic of the game that they believe they can use to manipulate us. So, clearly, just because Plarium gives you something, doesn't mean you are being paid, even if it doesn't give that reward to everyone. You know that you can compete in things like art contests and win in-game rewards? I would certainly consider those rewards free as well. And while not everyone will win, everyone can try. That's RAID content creation in a nutshell. Not everyone can make it into the CC program, but everyone can try. And those who succeed get rewarded, just like in game, because, ultimately, to Plarium, it's the same thing. And, tbh, as a F2P player myself, I think we should look at it the same way. If you can get more resources without giving Plarium money, go do it! That's exactly what being F2P is all about.

[@benhuang6872]

I think the point that is being missed here is that more than 90% of people that are f2p do not fall into this CC umbrella.. As a f2p myself, having these regular resources at a weekly basis does not represent the majority of 90% of f2p users. This does not invalidate the skill of Boozor.. but it is also unrealistic for F2p players to think they will achieve the kind of acct Boozor has as F2P. Also as a player that is fairly new to raid (1 year).. i do not know the history of CC.. so when people come in with the idea of being f2p, its not f2p with content creator perks… i think that is not what people think when they look at a general f2p player… so in essence once he got into the CC program he no longer represents the majority of f2p players.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I think this is a very good point. People often come into established games with preconceived ideas that are, ultimately, inaccurate. If I'm a CC that's been in the CC program for 3 years, do I STILL need to make that disclaimer over and over for new viewers? Or can I stand on the fact that I publicly stated so at the time, I list it in my bio, and the information is now available for anyone who cares to look for it? Boozer's "about" section on his YT channel clearly states that he is an "Official Plarium Content Creator." More than anything else, that proves he wasn't hiding the fact. If a new player is disappointed because their preconceived idea turns out to be false, it's a poor response to blame Boozor and not oneself for making an incorrect assumption.

[@tommydashed4205]

It doesn't matter. He didn't spend. That's it and that's all. He earned his way into the program by playing the game and creating content.

[@pinpoint4430]

comparing winning random occasional resource giveaways to a weekly pack that includes 4 legendary books doesn't ring right. The point of claiming FTP on a channel is to say that you can achieve what I achieve without spending. So I think that people find that a little less relatable and achievable when those content creator perks can't be accessible to everybody. That being said, he makes great content and give great advice

[@MK3344-te2sk]

Completely agree. Trying to relate to how my account compares after 4 years without those sorts of resources compared to his; it just doesn’t fit right. But as you mentioned, not taking away from his content and helpfulness with his videos though.

[@paper_lions]

Except, of course, he did achieve it without spending or CC perks. All of those things happened after his accounts were already endgame. The number of uneducated opinions people keep throwing out is crazy.

[@Nick-dt8jf]

This is a middle ground fallacy. Not only that but you are using a false dichotomy and implying a false analogy. Boozers account is in no way less relatable because of the perks he is receiving. Rather you could say it seems less relatable because his account (both before AND after receiving the perks) is more advanced than 99% of the player base will ever be. If you are trying to compare yourself to a CC, or high-end endgame player than you are simply delusional or a whale. And if you are whale, then we have a WHOLE other problem.

[@tommydashed4205]

The point of claiming f2p is the pride of your achievements without spending. He got what he has without spending. Stop being bitter.

[@pinpoint4430]

@@Nick-dt8jf The only concession I'll make is that there is more than one reason to claim FTP on a channel. However, it should be acknowledged that lots of people view FTP content with the perspective that it can serve as a model for the kind of success they can have. Boozer's content is good and its relevant. The fact that he has multiple high level accounts is impressive. The fact that he didn't even start getting the rewards until pretty recently also is worth noting. However, getting 4 legendary books a week does make his main account less relatable. If you don't get 4 legendary books a week, then getting 4 legendary books a week is not relatable. Why would comparing to another player be delusional? Unless one player is receiving rewards that the other isn't, you should always be able to compare your account and learn from the comparison. (Also, just because my opinion happens to be more moderate doesn't mean its a middle ground fallacy. That's a false equivalence. Just because its moderate doesn't mean its right. However a well informed opinion that has paid attention to both sides will often be more moderate)

[@sephuron87]

I wonder how many f2p CC'S there are in the program vs Spender CC's. To be able to crack into that spot completely F2P is also another argument for his ability to utilize his time and energy as opposed to his wallet. Boozer is the other side of the coin for me. A different avenue to the same destination. Glad he is getting support from fellow CC's

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Really good point. Boozor took the hard path to the CC program. That is very true to F2P life. There are a few other F2P CCs, I believe. I don't know how many are actually in the highest tier (maybe only 1 other I can think of). So yeah, he did it the F2P way, and he deserves any rewards that come with that accomplishment. Thanks for the comment!

[@PopcornNZ]

Totally agree with your well considered and logical discussion. Boozor is F2P and he hasn't tried to deceive anyone. All other issues being discussed relate to different concerns.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Agreed. Thanks for the support!

[@Seniyahs]

Great video Colred, well structured and measured response. Yup, "100% FTP" for me means you've never "spent a dime" (quoting you) on your account, that's it. This is only one type of account (which I happen to be also). Once you've used real money on an account you cannot ever call that account "100% FTP". It can revert to a FTP play-style or methodology, but it can never be classified as a "100% FTP" account. How you then obtain resources (of whatever kind) is possible in a wide number of ways in RSL and this creates huge variations of account types/forms. But whatever method(s) used, it doesn't invalidate the first point/question above. Just MHO.

[@ALATIDEFAN]

although i agree with you on him being 100% ftp you saying he is spending those resources on content is not accurate. the majority of the time he uses the test server to make that kind of content and then stacks those resources on his account. all those leggo books and gems each week stack up a ton

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I make content. I promise you - he's using a healthy chunk of those resources for content. Not all of it, of course, and his account does benefit from building champions for content, but the explicit purpose of those resources is to help CCs make content. As a F2P player, I've had to drop video ideas because I didn't have the resources to make them work. Also, to my understanding, the test server is only open some of the time, and there are limitations on what the CCs can do during those times. There's no way that all of Boozor's videos were tested on the test server first. Thanks for the comment!

[@MrNarcus]

​@ALATIDEFAN he's so late game the resource he actually benefits from is the energy and gems. He doesn't have anything to book lmao. He was that late game well before he got the CC pack.

[@ajgray8939]

So if someone gives me a million dollar account and I start playing it but never spend, is it ok for me to make content on it and claim constantly that I’m free to play? Or someone else buys packs regularly for my account but it’s not my money? Seems silly. It’s just not free to play. Boozer is awesome and should get and use CC perks, but shouldn’t brand himself free to play all the time

[@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw]

@@ajgray8939 false analogy. His account is already well-built before the perks.

[@MrNarcus]

@ajgray8939 This is such a terrible strawman argument. These two scenarios are not remotely similar lmao. People act like these weekly resources are why his account is where it's at. The dude had two late game f2p accounts before ever getting these CC rewards. Do you know what those rewards do for an account at that point in the game? Not a fucking thing. He isn't swimming in skill tombs because of getting them weekly, he was already swimming in them before he received those rewards. 4m gold is literally 2 accessories to 16. Energy is energy, and the gems are nothing but energy to a guy like him. His second endgame account, which he gets no CC resources for, is in the same position. When you're at that point in the game, those resources are barely a dent to the amount that they regularly use and accrue by playing like they do. His strategy for F2P hasn't somehow magically shifted because of them either. Are you ever using any codes? Did you take the rewards from the youtube short promotion? Ever win any CC raffles for gems? Did you grind out referrals for free sacred shards? Did you accept any compensation gifts from Plarium? By a bunch of these people's logic they aren't F2P either. Which is comical. People need to get over themselves.

[@Silver-h7h]

Thank you and I do agree with you both of you put out great content for those of us that can’t play as much or well as we would like to

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you! I appreciate the support.

[@CGAPU]

The spirit of the law vs the letter of the law: he didn't spend money, but he's not sharing an experience that is in any way comparable to 99.9% of F2P players. 99.9% of players will never get those resources. That's a F2P gamer just in name only. The quality of his content or his abilities is another completely different topic.

[@MrMrmuffinmann]

With all due respect, I actually really enjoy you and boozers content but, this argument is a cop out. Obviously you're taking a CC's side which I totally get but, you saying anyone can log into YT and create content and get some free rewards is crazy. Besides that, you said he's not benefiting from these rewards..... really man. Give me those gems, tomes, and energy and my account looks completely different. Totally get what you were trying to get across. Just don't think most actual ftp peeps can completely agree. Yes boozers is better than me, but he went on ashs channel with screenshots etc....just seems fishy all im saying. Best of luck to you both, still enjoy you both.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I appreciate the approach you take to disagreeing. As I said, friends can disagree, even vehemently sometimes, and still treat each other with respect. So thank you for that. As for your points (in no particular order): 1 - I do defend CCs a fair bit, because I know how hard the job can be. But what I really felt, in this instance, was the need to defend another F2Per. And, remember, I'm not in the CC program, so I'm not getting those rewards, and I expect I never will. 2 - Yes, those gems and tomes would make a huge difference for a lot of players. The difference they would make for me, at this point in my account's life, is limited. They WOULD help me make more content, though. There's nothing in the game I can't do with what I've already got. But more resources would allow me to build champs I don't need just to showcase in videos for people who have those champions. 3 - My point wasn't that anyone can make a YT channel and get some free rewards. My point was that everyone is free to try to do so. Not everyone can make plat arena, but everyone has the opportunity to try. To claim that Boozor isn't free to play simply because he has been able to accomplish something most people can't isn't true or fair. Thanks for the comment!

[@MrMrmuffinmann]

@ColredPlaysRSL Well said. Appreciate the response. I've learned tons about raid from you and boozer both and hopefully will continue to do so. Also, disagreements happen and it's nice to have level-headed conversations about them. Props to you and boozer for handling the situation the way you both have.

[@Pocket420]

I got a low speed (low gear requirments)100% sand devil 25 team in 90 seconds because of a boozor video. I also tried to make a 5 man team that scratch raid did in a video for farming sand devil 25 and I could only clear stage 22 with it and only full auto Stage 19 because sckratches gears and blessings are just so simply far and above mine that it wasn't possible for me to Make this team work. Even after the sand devil nerfs the gear check for a 5 man auto Sd25 team Is still really high. I'm really glad boozors content helped me achieve something that was otherwise not possible. Unfortunately it means my ninja is locked in a sand devil build which makes him less ideal for my hard Hydra team. But he can still push hard to turn limit.

[@synxiec]

Well-reasoned and well-said 🙏🏾

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you! I appreciate it.

[@MalRabbit]

"What's the difference between him and us? He's just better at it" Truth!

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Right? Set the egos aside and acknowledge that there's a reason he's teaching us all how to get better. Because he's already there.

[@dennisdurvad6705]

Best support on Boozer so far! He deserves it and people thinking otherwise - just don't see his vids! Simple as that!!

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you!

[@Happytremereinc]

100% agree with your take. The other day he showed both accts. They have a stack of books and other resources. I think the CC pack is to compensate for the time, effort and resources used to make the content to help promote the game. And like you said his 2nd/non-CC acct is just as stacked!

[@limalkr930]

Hey, thanks for this take and I hope you get into the CC program. Cheers :)

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you!

[@vohrtechs5974]

I'm fairly new to Raid, and I gave my opinion on this on Boozor's last vid. I'm not one to repeat myself, but I will add that it is nice to see the other content creators give their opinions on this so quickly, and in my estimation, earnestly. You all spoke up instead of ignoring it, and you all addressed the issues with reasonable and thoughtful responses. There are many communities where this would not be the case.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I agree. I think RAID has the best collection of CCs I've ever seen for a game (and I thought this was true BEFORE I started making content 😉). Thanks for the comment! 👍

[@the_gengar_master]

💯

[@scjeepHO]

Honestly I don't give a damn if someone is free to play or not. Is his content helpful? YES, does he help others without them having to do all the work themselves? YES. Would it be possible without any help? get real, the real answer is HELL NO. It's a game people. Many players are better than I am, My gear sucks and i rarely get lucky with my pulls. It is what it is.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thanks for the comment!

[@mairo091]

The best defence for boozor so far. The definition of free to pay is not to have spent any money on the game. I learnt so much watching you and him. Welldone

[@YksiSuomalainen]

So for example if your employer, mom or friend buys your account Raid resources worth ~$500 a month would you call that account a F2P account?

[@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw]

@@YksiSuomalainen 1. If the resources are used to build up the account, then no. 2. His account is already well-built long before the perks. 3. Take a look a look at his other account without perks-strong.

[@the_gengar_master]

Agreed.

[@Tnargav]

@@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw So if I build my account and then start spending I'm still f2p because my account is already built. Cheers.

[@TasteBudTreasures-hq2nw]

@@Tnargav false analogy. He did not start spending. What part of not spending is not sinking in with you people? He is receiving perks that is no longer relevant to his endgame account. His other account with no perks is still strong.

[@BitanyaMeseret]

While I agree with you mostly, The top reason I watch your videos for tips instead of his is the fact that you can show me and other ftp players how to do things without the rewards from the cc program.

[@BitanyaMeseret]

For instance, it's easier for him to complete fusions and get good champions because he gets more resources for that. You show me how to plan and do it with the resources EVERYONE gets.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

That's a completely valid viewpoint. And it doesn't require anyone to be a liar or lack integrity. Thank you!

[@BonePlaysRaid]

Very good (as always) analytical and explained topic. I am really wondering why you are not part of the CC program with your influence on the community though. I only applied 2 months ago, but good to learn, that it simply could be the case not to receive an answer and it is not only about the requirements and numbers.

[@TACelectronics]

Absolutely, he is technically FTP, but when people say FTP, they mean the FTP experience, and there lies the issue: With CC perks, he is not having a FTP experience.

[@breezyphontain9686]

He has a second account with no cc perks that is also top tier. What you're saying would be the equivalent of me saying you are not ftp because you got promo codes, Amazon gifts, and won a few cc contests and I didnt.

[@thetorski6376]

​@breezyphontain9686 I disagree the differences is the cc rewards are consistent and promo codes are one offs and open to all ! Cc rewards have criteria however also have to be accepted so who knows who makes the finial call ! Boozer is great and I like his content however my personal opinion is that his main is not ftp and his alt is

[@paper_lions]

His accounts were both 4 years old and already end game before he received any perks. He still plays the game the same way. How, exactly, do you think his experience is different than a ftp player? Because once your account is that old, you accumulate resources much faster than you need them, because you rarely build new champs.

[@breezyphontain9686]

@@thetorski6376 what I'm saying is, to people who can't get these things anymore (expired promo codes, cc contests, Google points etc) there is no difference. I don't think we can pick and chose what's acceptable and what's not because it's harder to get. He is using something (on one account) that every single person here can get albeit very difficult to obtain. He got it because his account is top tier. He put in the work and spent no money to do it. It feels wild to punish him for it. Should be a goal for all of us

[@thetorski6376]

@paper_lions I know both his accounts were end game before the cc rewards I watched his video in full and I have played since 2019 so I know how to manage an account etc. I would imagine all those resources would assist in clearing cursed city and from boozer himself be doesn't need to worry about being prepared for fusions etc that's not how a non cc reward ftp feels. It's not a slight on boozer or an argument just is what it is !

[@voldemarius07]

I do find Boozor's videos useful. And I am grateful for it. But I feel differently when watching his videos compared to yours. When I see thousands of gems, millions of skill tomes and chickens and hear that FTP word.. I just feel that I am way worse player than he is. I am so far from him with my pathetic amount of resources. But when I see your resources I have a feeling that I am doing pretty decent though I am not an end game player yet. For example, when you was going to pull Odin yesterday I had exactly same amount of shards as you did. That means that I am doing as same good and efficiently as you do. It just makes me feel better and boosts my self-confidence. Maybe same emotions experienced that guy who started this drama. IDK. Just throwing my opinion. Thank you for your work, you are our number one CC ^.^

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

That's very insightful and self-aware. But I also think you just called me an "average player" and "sub-par CC." You calling me out?!? 😜🤣

[@vohbovohborian28]

I think there is a significant difference between being a good content creator and being really good at the game.

[@voldemarius07]

@@ColredPlaysRSL NoNo, i mean i did my best last months, completed every single activity, collect every single piece of resources and caught you up. That means a lot for me. :)))

[@TGBledsoe]

Ive impulse bought the daily gem pack and some void shards during a 2x event before. Felt so bad about it I rage quit for 2 months because I didnt get anyone that could advance my clan boss team. Envy plays a large role in the criticism of cc's whether their whales or not. I'm new, and I started my account around the Wixwell fusion so seeing all these players and channels so easily do clan boss made me really bitter. I felt like I couldnt participate in the events because I either didnt have an old enough account or I didnt spend enough money. So I bought shards on impulse on the slim chance I would pull the right champion, didnt happen and I rage quit for months. All I can say about Boozor is that I really like his content he's been a great help in realizing what I can and cannot do at this stage in my account. The fact he gets rewarded for his work is good because the advice he has for even low spend players is incredible

[@Cheese-It117]

I'm a huge Boozer fan. All the crap he has gotten is unwarranted. That said I hope you get into the CC program you deserve it!

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you! I appreciate the support. 😀

[@jaccl4539]

not complicated don't call it F2P if you spend or have others spend on your account. So if were pulling hairs - yes he is F2P but his account is not - he is marketing his account so no it is not F2P - nothing wrong with his videos just don't call it F2P.

[@lemiserable8861]

I think they should call it "Content Creator f2p" or something.

[@tonypierson3152]

He can quite simply run 2 accounts, his main one and then his F2P one surely for content etc.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

He could, and he does. But that's not really the point. Also, what about me? I can't afford the time to run a second account. So, if I get into the CC program and get those rewards, I almost certainly have to receive them on my main account. Would I no longer be F2P? I think I would just enter another level of F2P - god tier. That's where Boozor lives right now, IMO. Thanks for the comment!

[@rhettmeyers474]

Nice to see another F2P CC give their take on this. I am in no way F2P myself, but imo you hit every nail on the head here. F2P is very simple. You don't pay any of your money to get boosts in the game. You simply play the game for free. The people that are claiming he's no longer, are bitter about him getting rare top level F2P rewards that they're not, and then trying to knock him down as a cope. They then go on to add special qualifiers to what constitutes F2P. It's a classic case of no true Scotsman fallacy.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

"The people that are claiming he's no longer, are bitter about him getting rare top level F2P rewards that they're not, and then trying to knock him down as a cope. They then go on to add special qualifiers to what constitutes F2P. It's a classic case of no true Scotsman fallacy." Thank you for this. You put it much more succinctly than I ever could. Cheers!

[@Avrorabg]

he is not f2p since he gets something that no other f2p player can get if not cc creator. yes he does good videos most of the times but calling himself f2p is misleading to the new guys who watch his videos and view his account as possible way to be achieved in future by themselve. i am worried because he takes such cc creator pack weekly worth about 75-80 dollars each week = 4160 dollars yearly. i am mad cause he puts the lable of f2p in almost all his videos, other cc youtubers invited him many times for co-hosting video clips in order for boozor to talk and share his views of the game / fusion from the angle of the greatest f2p player. all he should have done is make an apology video where he should have said sorry. he should have put as an info below each video that he makes - yes i am taking cc perks gift pack in my account. if he did that everything was gonna be fine with me, but not only he did not do that he kept the copium story how he never used those gift packs and so on - like ppl are stupid but not like this stupid to believe in this bullshit. he used to be reddit modervtor for plarium back in the days 3 years ago back then some guys also said he took plarium gifts for his reddit mod role there. worth of the gift they told me was about 500 gems weekly. thats 2000 gems montly which definatly helps shit ton when u do any fusion adn 3 years ago 500 gems was rlly alot since tournaments events to be done took alont less points to earn.so actually he was never f2p ever. another thing is that he deleted his first video of him explaining the drama yesterday 2-3 hours after releasing it due to the big backlash and many negative comments. then 8-9 hours after that he released new video on the same topic. this time ash acting like his layer, and prince on the white horse defending him which is pathetic - since ash is one of the biggest krakens out there when talking to youtuber players definately top 3 krakens. ash should shut the fuck up and not enter this fight cause he got no place in it he is not f2p. focking shame to see how a kraken talking about who is f2p and who is not f2p. kraken that defending a guy who screw up over f2p topic videos misleading and lying he was such. and the worst part boozor still trying to keep the mantle of f2p. this boozor new video where he tried to sell the copium story once more this time had alot more positive comments and likes and ppl send from other cc youtubers to defend him. they needed like 1 day to activate the shills, zombies and send them. personaly i unsubscribed rom boozor after his recent video how good move was for all players this new badge update from plarium. positive videos on such updates only pushes more bullshit from plarium in the future only makes f2p player life harder, badges that gives notthing in value but bragging rights for krakens/whales. after that sort of videos instead plarium to focus on quality of life updates [for example the forge and auto selling option for lvl 3-4 stars gear.] instead this we got now new shining yellow glowing thing around our avatars. this game is gone full copium mode. total shiet show full with sheeps and zombies on copium. and when this becomes normal soon after the game goes down. so boozor be a man say you are sorry u made a mistake, i will understand we will understand. we are all humans we do understand we make mistakes too. but trying to keep the mantle of f2p and selling the copium story will not work.

[@MillerKing51]

So are those same.peole also not accepting g any of the free promo codes, and reward items that you get outside of game as well cause if they are then they are not free to play by thier definition.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Good point!

[@wigiti]

I think whole discussion is ridiculous... Not sure how f2p got twisted to this far. It used to mean that people don't use money, get donations, free stuff etc. It was meant to show how far you can get using just resources earned through in game activities.. (I mean people talk about how they use amazon gift cards or google play points and still be f2p...) There is nothing wrong to not be an f2p player. I think CC that get this pack is better off to show how to use different f2p teams, when real f2p players don't have resources to do so and need to be really picky who to invest. This pack is good for CC's and helps them to make content. However CC should make an difference between content creator account and real F2P account. I mean you could say you are f2p if someone donated you an account that has over 1000 000$ worth of stuff. You didn't spend anything. Then say "Look how easy it's for f2p player to top platinum arena!" It's not that far off. Imagine if this CC pack had 10 000$ worth of stuff each month.. would it still be ok? Now if the answer is no then question is why? You should still be f2p if you are the f2p with pack worth 200$? (I don't know Boozor and I don't really care if he is f2p or not. This is my general view about f2p and nothing to do this Boozor drama.) btw I'm also f2p player. I just used time machine feature to move my account 4 years ahead. It's now similar to 6 years old f2p account. It seems in this age f2p is just how you look at it. you can use gift cards, get donations, pay Plarium employee to gift you a stuff or make a channel and pay for views to get into CC program and still be f2p.

[@Sik.Taylor]

He's never lied and his integrity should not be at question... when it comes to the game, if we are going to play with semantics then there should be another category for his type account. You can say its ftp which it is, but not a realistic take on how to manage an actual ftp account because he gets resources that other ftp accounts don't. If someone else pays for your monthly raid pass are you ftp... technically cause your not spending money you are but your account is not. I actually think some of Boozors content is the most helpful for the community, so I think this is being over focused. you made great points about his continuation. Really

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I appreciate your take, and I think you make some good points. However, I don't really agree that we need to make the distinction between types of F2P experiences. I think that's fine for conversation's sake, but not as way to divide the F2P community into different categories. All F2P experiences are different. And all F2P experiences (including Boozor's) share key aspects that bind them together as distinct from the spending experience. IMO, creating classes of F2P would devalue the core similarity that makes the F2P tag meaningful in the first place. Thanks for the comment!

[@charleswable3339]

ok what if I get google play pass with my phone bill and get a 5 dollar credit every month for raid am I free to play?

[@Tnargav]

By their logic, yes.

[@dragandavidovic508]

First of all, I don't care who is p2p or f2p player. That being said, since you want to talk about difference between f2p and p2p, this is the only difference: A player is P2P if he can get something that not ALL other players can. If it were as you say, that would mean that if I am F2P and some Arab/Sheikh sees me playing and decides to give me a package worth $1,000,000, I am still F2P, which would not be the case at all.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I disagree. I think a player is P2P if they use money to purchase resources instead of grinding those resources for free. So, if I collect 100 ancient shards through gameplay, and you purchase 100 ancient shards so you don't have to grind like I did, then I am F2P and you are P2P. Now, P2P players can employ F2P tactics all the time, and it doesn't change their status. But a F2Per can't spend money and then continue to say they are F2P (although I personally feel that small initial purchases, like the "intro" bundle or whatever, doesn't really count toward this). Now, if some third party buys resources for you, of course you would no longer be F2P just because it wasn't your money. But that's not what's happening here. PLARIUM is giving Boozor rewards through the same exact mechanism as Plarium gives all us players our rewards. This is not a third party spending money.

[@dragandavidovic508]

@@ColredPlaysRSL OK. So, why Plarium has not given those rewards to all other players, and not just to him? You could say he is the best and that is why, but why that is not inside the game, like an event or achievement or something so all players could try for that? (Or that was perhaps offered to everyone inside of a tournament and only first place could get it, in which case I apologize but still remain in right as a statement, but just not in this case?) Again, I repeat I really do not care who is f2p or p2p, but for those that that fact is important, whenever player gets something that is not inside of a game for everyone to get (or try to get), he becomes p2p (actual money spent or not).

[@tommydashed4205]

​@@dragandavidovic508all players can try. All players can try for one key NM Hydra but not all players will succeed. What you're doing is trying to destroy his pride because you can't achieve what he did. He didn't spend money. Period, point blank. He never had the same experience as you and still wouldn't even without the CC rewards.

[@wreckingcrew56]

100% correct on all you comments!!!!!!!!

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you!

[@limitless0411]

well thought out and well executed as always. Now to get you and Boozer doing some colabs about raid content, that would be the dream

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

On it. 🤨

[@Scott-dy7rj]

Free to play means you get the normal amount of resources that every other normal player gets because you do not spend money to get extra resources. Getting that level of resources EVERY WEEK means a true F2P cannot compare.

[@RomeoNevan]

@@Scott-dy7rj This!!, period.

[@gkar9757]

What defines "good player"? Retention/management of resources?

[@jamiemac12580]

For me the tag of F2P means that everyone has the same allocation and accessibility to resources. If i copied Boozer's account 12 months ago and had the same knowledge, exact same shard pulls, time allowed and dg drop rates etc as him, I would still be miles behind. Over time its not a trivial amount of extra resources, especially 4 legendary books and 7,000 energy a week, thats ~450 extra dg runs a week. Thats even more gear, silver and champion exp. Its not all about spending money, its running the same race.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

But you're being selective with Boozor's actions. You've copied Boozor's account from 12 months ago and "had the same knowledge, exact same shard pulled, time allowed and dg drop rates," but why are you not also copying his path of becoming a CC and gaining CC rewards? If you did, then you'd be exactly where he is now. But even more than that, if you did actually copy everything Boozor did, except for the CC rewards, while you wouldn't be where Boozor is, you WOULD be absolutely DESTROYING Raid right now, and you'd have never spent a dime. Because Boozer is F2P, he understands what it takes to crush it as F2P, and following his advice works for other F2P players because he is a F2P master.

[@jamiemac12580]

@@ColredPlaysRSL The whole point is I wouldn't be at the same position in the game. Doesn't matter how hard I try or well i optimise my teams a fellow F2P will receive a major advantage. You wouldn't expect to go go-carting with 9 other people. All in the exact same cart except Bob as he's got a film crew so he has a better cart.

[@tommydashed4205]

Stop adding qualifiers. F2p means FREE to PLAY. Has money been spent on the account? No. Then it's f2p. By adding qualifiers to a simple definition all you're doing is trying to justify what you want to be true, not what is actually true. The real question here is why do you want to tear another man down simply because he was able to achieve more than you with the exact same restrictions?

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

@@jamiemac12580 I don't know why you, and a minority of other commenters, feel like you're in a competition with Boozor and, therefore, there should be some kind of level playing field. This game is like 90% PvE. It's a hero collector with massive amounts of RNG. No two experiences in RAID are the same. And if there WAS a competition, Boozor's CC rewards would have no significant consequence. He would beat you (and me, and the vast majority of players) with or without those resources. Just go look at the state of his accounts before he got into the program. That's exactly why people watch his channel in the first place. He crushed RAID and he didn't spend money to do it. I don't know how it can get any simpler.

[@jamiemac12580]

@@tommydashed4205 Never said he wasn't F2P, yes he technically is still within that definition, but he doesn't have the same restrictions as everyone else. Can't go around gloating about being the world's best F2P player when he gets £2,500 additional resources a year

[@adambrake8083]

The ONLY way any of this applies, is if ... a) cc resources could only be paid for with real $. U guys have played for years so n u deserve the perks. It's a matter of saving time at that point. How is this a problem ?

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thanks for the comment! I appreciate the support (and I agree with you). 👍

[@skarabeusz323]

6:18 is eazy to say im f2p 100 % every move but im cc got every week staff hard ? for me not fair

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

It's posted publicly on his "about" page on his YT channel. He's not hiding the fact. He talks about the program from time to time - not often, because there's little reason to. If people didn't know, and then they blame him for their ignorance, that's just displacement. They'd rather be mad at him than at themselves.

[@skarabeusz323]

@@ColredPlaysRSL but I'm not mad at anyone hmm for me he is not f2p p2w he is higher because he gets resources every week sorry for eng not best

[@McNeo2]

One more thing I want to say for behalf of Boozer - more important than how much you have resources, is the fact, how and when you use them. And one of the most important things that Boozer have teached, is discipline. Discipline, to wait right time, discipline, not to waist resources, discipline to hold on you plan. So, anybody who criticizes Boozer, for not being fully 'FREE' player, try to follow his path, try to preserve discipline, and then, please come and talk about resources. mic drop, if you please :)

[@WesleyWynn-m7b]

i think its great that he gets extra resources. these guys let us know the full potential of champs. the savings in resources alone from not wasting them on bad champs. he's just getting paid for his time. plarium gives us all resources every update. does that mean nobody is ftp?

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

That's one of the biggest sticking points for me. Plarium gives us all resources all the time. That's the exact same place he's getting his. I can't quite understand why so many people feel this somehow disqualifies these resources.

[@mncedisi2933]

The "poll" you conducted on f2p and perks does not exist on your channel unless you did it on another channel or you may have thought that you did the poll

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I did it during a live-stream. The only way to find it would be to replay all my old live-streams from last October, November, December, and maybe January. So, yeah, I didn't have the time to do that. But it's there, somewhere.

[@tinustrotyl7496]

Boozor is not FTP and I never considered him to be FTP. I think he makes great content at thats why I watch his content. I don't mind whether a Raid streamer spends money or gets ingame rewards from Plarium by promoting them.

[@hlaw35]

Free to play means free to play. It means you put a grand total of ZERO dollars in to Raid. Being in CC program shouldn't change the definition of FTP. Boozer isn't being payed real life money by plarium anymore than he pays real money to plarium. They give him the CC bonus perks cuz he promotes their game. Boozer is FTP point blank. He is not getting any sort of unfair advantage. The CC community and plarium have an equitable agreement of getting resources in exchange for promoting the game.

[@Tnargav]

What if someone "buys" me bonus perks each week. I still will be F2P as I haven't done in personally?

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

@hlaw35 I agree 100%. Thanks for the comment! @Tnargav No, you wouldn't be F2P. But no one is buying Boozor anything. He is earning a reward.

[@StartLuccasMatos]

Boozer put the effort and won against the wheel. What's the Wheel? Whales will always be in front of you. He proved all of that wrong. All of that he did before entering the content creator program. What's real problem here: Boozer has been helping the community for years, he has a second job, family and children, he already said he micromanage his time in game, yet people are so jealous and stupid that brought this questions into the light. All of them deserve it. All of them help the community, all of them spare time to editing, having ideas and making solutions to problems. You all should be GRATEFUL AS FUCK for all of them. I played Raid when it started, there was no content, there was no resources, no help, no nothing. Stop this nonsense and just support them. ''Who the fuck are you, mate?'' I'm a Digital Marketing and Publicity CEO. I make a lot of money and yet I prefer to stay F2P. Why? Because of them. Guess what? The game is AMAZING in that way. KEEP UP WITH THE GOOD WORK ALL OF YOU!

[@timpodlich1261]

This is content creation, I like a little different topics to listen to

[@calvins47]

I agree he does a lot of video to help everyone

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Yes he does.

[@slingblade93]

He's F2P, through and through. Yes, he gets extras for being in the CC program. Did he pay for them? No. The only thing those extras do for him, is speed up the process. So yes, everything he does/has done, is attainable to everyone. It may just take you a different time frame. Btw, it probably will take you a different timeframe for the simple fact of RNG. The ppl crying foul about this are just jealous, plain and simple.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I think the variability in the F2P experience you reference is something that's really been overlooked by people. No two F2P experiences are exactly the same. But the core principles of F2P life do remain the same: Don't spend money. Get every free resource you can. Don't worry about the meta - do what works for you. That should be enough for any F2Per.

[@ThatsOurRobert]

I liked watching Boozor until those CC rewards popped up. I just can't help it when I saw 7 5 star chickens and 1500 gems WEEKLY pop up. It just kind of ruined my own experience with playing not being a CC. It's a feeling of "jesus christ I'm at such a huge disadvantage in comparison."

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I understand that feeling, and if more people stated their objection in that manner, I think we'd all be better off. Instead, many people who feel as you do have instead resorted to calling Boozor "not F2P" and attacking his integrity. I will say this to you, though, and other players who may feel like you do: I have personally found RAID to be most enjoyable when I don't compare my experience to the experiences of other players. I basically play this game as PvE. Even the PvP is PvE (except for live arena). So, if I'm making progress and enjoying the challenges, then it's a fun game to me, regardless of what's happening with other players. That's just my personal philosophy, but maybe it would increase your enjoyment as well. Thank you for your comment!

[@ThatsOurRobert]

@@ColredPlaysRSL Honestly it's the way to go. I have lately just come up with my own challenges for F2P like speedrunning Kael to 60. Did it in 8 hours with the new apprentice pass going on! Plaing your own way is honestly the only way to enjoy the game.

[@CGAPU]

A F2P experience implies that you do what was available to everyone at the time. Just like Eharbad, the best F2P player did.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I don't think that's a fair statement: what was available to everyone at the time. For two reasons. First, different things are available to different F2P players simply based on their account progress, their commitment to saving, their available play time, their game knowledge, and RNG. For instance, on my HH F2P Challenge account this year, I won a champion chase for Nergigante Archer. I was the only player in the entire competition to win one. One significant reason was that my tournament bracket was much easier than the brackets most players saw. Now, HH and Saph felt that earning N. Archer as I did was entirely in keeping with the rules of the contest, but some viewers commented that I shouldn't use her because it wasn't really fair that I got so lucky and no one else did. I think we can both agree that my Archer was gained through F2P means, despite the fact that most F2Pers never had a realistic shot at getting her. Second, I believe that CC rewards ARE available to everyone, at least in the same way that any reward in the game is available. If you put enough focus, time, and effort into getting them, you can get them. If you don't, you won't. In some ways, CC rewards are more readily available than rewards like my N. Archer, because there's no RNG involved, no exclusive content, no time limit. I believe a "F2P experience" implies many things, but most centrally, it implies no spending. Beyond that, we can all have our personal preferences, but to expect everyone to agree with us is both unrealistic and unreasonable. And to publicly berate someone and question their integrity, simply for adhering to a different, but common and reasonable understanding of F2P is simply uncalled for.

[@CGAPU]

@@ColredPlaysRSL Those CC rewards are not part of the game. You need to do things outside of it in order to get them. In an Olympic game he would have been disqualified, just like in any other competitive sport. He got an unfair advantage that was not available inside the game. On the other hard, RNG is not only part of the game, it is the game's essence. Eharbad was extremely lucky in his pulls (just like Boozor), but he didn't change the odds to get them.

[@SKMiningGuru]

Well Articulated as always, but we can't say he's 100% FTP, youre getting consistent resources weekly. Which are very hard to get. Thats not free to play because others are not getting those. Boozer is a good content creator but to me he's no longer FTP. Those Pecks weekly.

[@andrewyamishi4959]

This is what I thought too. If anything,P2W players and CCs are more upset because he has done everything they couldn't without spending. It's a matter of jealousy. You have my respect for this video

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

He gets a ton of items that are worth a TON of money. He's not FTP, it's simple as that and I don't see how anyone would think otherwise. Forget this whole jealousy take most people have, it's not about that. It's about integrity. Saying you're FTP when you receive items at this level, think about it. He gets 7 5* chickens a week, the amount of training he has to do is knocked down considerably because he can just turn a 6* every week without ever training a single piece of food. This is before even considering the books and TON of energy as well. Of course he's gonna be better at the game than most people, he can burn energy wherever he pleases because he gets resources to essentially rid himself of the burden of having to do other things. All them chickens he's getting, as I said, he really doesn't have to farm for food levelling. This means he can hard focus energy wherever he wants and if he does choose to train for an event or fusion, he can essentially 6* a small village of champions at a moment's notice. People are calling into question the integrity, a valid criticism btw. Also, everyone seems to be ignoring the sheer impact those resources actually have on an account. Imagine if you were getting that amount of resources just starting out. That early game grind just doesn't exist with the level of items he's getting. He claims to be Raid's best FTP player, that's like calling yourself the best hitter in baseball while being juiced to the gills. He just isn't at the level everyone else is getting those resources so he cannot claim to be on a level playing field as the rest of the FTP crowd and people can criticize him for that. The vitriol he has seen, people are taking it too far and that's bullshit. Valid, constructive criticism however, I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with that.

[@Cedreazy]

You post the same comment on every video so really proving that you are not even trying to listen to the arguments people are making and that’s just toxic and really senseless behavior. If you watched any of the videos maybe you would have nuanced opinion but no you decided to just copy paste as if you had an agenda… you clearly don’t want to hear the counter argument to your point so what are you exactly looking for? Please enlighten us

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

"He gets a ton of items that are worth a TON of money." So do you. So do I. I know that I certainly get more resources per month than the vast majority of players. All of those resources are worth money. Does that mean I'm not F2P? "He's not FTP, it's simple as that and I don't see how anyone would think otherwise." He doesn't spend ANY money. It's as simple as that. It's really difficult to understand how not spending money could possibly turn someone into a spender. Of course, he's F2P. "People are calling into question the integrity, a valid criticism btw." I disagree. It's a valid question, not a valid criticism. Just look at the comments in these videos. If 80% of people agree that he fits the definition of F2P, why does he lack integrity for thinking the same thing? Did he ever lie? No. Did he ever hide or obscure the truth? No. So, he doesn't fit your exact definition of a F2P player, but he fits the most widely accepted definition (which he also seems to hold) and you think that means he lacks integrity? I'm not sure that opinion reflects a full understanding of the word. If you think he's wrong, fine. But unless he's been dishonest or deliberately manipulative, being wrong isn't a lack of integrity.

[@GanRai-eq5yk]

"Go become a CC to get the same" - it's not what I expect to do when I see a f2p label on content. He wasn't hiding this pack, but he wasn't mentioning it either. Given that his channel main identity is him being f2p I see this "not mentioning" as omitting. I don't care about him getting pack. If only he were to mention it's existence alongside him not spending money

[@Abridgelion]

Is it F2P to get gems for being funny in the memes channel on the official Discord? Not aiming this at Colred, I think we agree lol. I've just never seen anyone complain about the free gems from winning the memes contest. The drama is silly. Players love to complain. We should all learn to be content.

[@edc.8002]

Disclaimer, I’ve never watched his content. My only issue is that F2P gamers could be mislead to think they can do certain things when they are not getting the CC perks. For example, books make a huge difference. A true F2P player, non CC, would not get that. However, he’s making content so, who cares.

[@andre97621]

Look at the screenshot. 7 epic, 4 Lego books, 1500 energy, 4m silver, 7 5 star chickens, 1300 gems A WEEK. Who can compete with 2300 dollars of extra resources a year without spending?

[@edc.8002]

@@andre97621 totally agree with that, hence my F2P players being misled comment. I think all CC’s mislead the rest of us to some degree. I’m a low spender and no way I could do the same without playing 24/7

[@andre97621]

@@edc.8002 If you can I suggest running RSL helper over night or during the day to do auto battles for you to help limit actual game time and maximize resource usage. It helps and good luck

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I think that's the biggest issue - the word "compete." Trust me, none of us could compete with Boozor before the CC rewards. Why are we trying? Why does competing even enter the discussion? If Boozor makes a video using F2P friendly champions and achievable gear, and he did so using his CC resources, does that make the team less valuable to other F2P players? If I have a champion in team comp that you don't, and I never received any CC rewards, is my team going to help you more than his? The fact is, he didn't spend money to get his resources. He just kicked butt at RAID and RAID content creation. The fact some people thought they were the same as him is just a mistake on their parts, not a deception on his.

[@andre97621]

@@ColredPlaysRSL That's a disingenuous comparison. Now if he earned said gear with extra resources than yes it's a problem. And compete is not problematic. Players can totally compete on equal playing fields look at eharbad. That's a truly f2p player. The point is to push what you can with what thd hame gives you not what you earned from outside the game and to what extent someone could reasonably expect to be able to do. Same reason a lot of f2p series ignored Lego pulls. His content can be useful to f2p players and just not claim yourself to be. Look at stewarding in 2019 clearing spider with rares and uncommon. He never claimed to be f2p

[@vohbovohborian28]

If you acquire resources that most people do not have access to by any means, you are no longer free to play. So no, if you are on the payroll of Plarium and gain thousands of dollars worth of free resources a year, you are not free to play AT ALL, because your account has an influx of stuff that is not representative of how a f2p player experiences the game. If you win gems, especially in a significant amount, at some contest, you are ALSO no longer free to play. Someone has paid for resources you are using. By that same reasoning, you are indeed NOT free to play if your grandma bought you a 500 dollar pack with sacreds and books. Free to play means free to play, you only work with the resources given to you in the game, you cannot use any extraneous resources. Promo codes are available to all, they are obviously exempt. So, if Boozor or anyone else calls himself free to play, but gains additional resources that would put a normal person well into whale territory (and yes, 250$ a month is whale territory), then that is simply not a correct statement. You are not free to play, so your experience in the game is no longer representative of what a genuine free to play player experiences, so don't call yourself free to play. Do I think less of you for accepting free gifts ? Only if you keep calling yourself free to play. Do I think that the best content is made by free to play players ? No, in fact some of the best content creators out there with the most knowledge are krakens or whales or at least former whales. Just like in Marvel Strike Force, one of the best channels used to be that of Philosopher who was a huge, HUGE whale, who never pretended to be anything else. All the cope and nonsense and excuses irk me much more than whether someone pays in the game or not.

[@Dharin.]

Then by your very own reasoning... If you watch a video that any CC has released after using their own resources to make it, and you use that knowledge to do anything in game that essentially saves you a single silver piece, or 1 tick of energy, or any other in game resource, then you are no longer f2p either. You "took" that knowledge and used it for your own personal gain without having to experiment for yourself, which inevitable will cost you resources to discover at some point, if not almost always. A single failure at any given time is a wasted resource that gained you some knowledge but not a positive result for that run/test. Now you have that freely given knowledge gained and prepaid by someone else to maximise your usable resources in your own game. Not everyone watches YT or uses any other social media, so this knowledge is widely, but not absolutely available to all. You do use YT to find ways to save resources by gaining understanding, as goes to show from making a comment in a video. It is a medium you use. That knowledge had to be gained by another first, and they had to do what you are obviously not willing to do every time you click on a video to speed that process up, gain resources by doing so, which otherwise you would have to use figuring it out. Unlike the in game "open to all" promo codes, that is "technically" true, in exactly the same way not spending a penny in the game is "technically" true also, when saying that you are f2po,, as not everyone will get those resources because of the aforementioned, not everyone accesses social media for as many reasons as f2p players have for not spending money in this game at least. So, I'm pointing the finger at you here, and saying just 1 single resource saved by you not using your own to play Raid makes you also not f2p. If you can say that, without a doubt, you have never saved a single resource by accessing any videos, then you are truly f2p. If you cannot, then you are not imo... Period! Lastly. Boozor, and I'm only talking about his case. He was already endgame on both his accounts before he started receiving any CCP perks. He played all that way on 2 accounts as any other f2p player. His experience was similar to yours for that reason. His experience dwarf yours in knowledge and understanding because he is out their teaching from experience, and if you go seeking videos like his, then you are still a student of the game.

[@vohbovohborian28]

​@@Dharin. I think that is a pedantic argument that holds little ground. Knowledge is a separate resource, and again, a resource that literally everyone has equal access to. Pretty much all videos of content creators are publicly and freely available. Therefore using publicly available knowledge is the same as using daily energy. As long as anyone has access to it, the knowledge is free. I am also not "accusing" anyone for not being free to play. I am myself in Raid, but I have paid prior in Hero Wars and World of Tanks, and in WoT I was even for a short while part of a clan that held knowledge that was NOT publicly available. Secondly, this game is not quantum mechanics. I would contend that I know more about how to min max this game than 95% of content creators, but this is completely irrelevant to the discussion. The only single point I am making is this: That if you receive addition resources that others do not have access to, in return for work you do, then you ARE NOT free to play, and pretending you are is disingenuous.

[@Dharin.]

@@vohbovohborian28 Then sorry, your argument is absolutely broken by it's own meaning. Becoming a content creator is "freely" accessible to everyone as is it's entry into the CCP. Ergo, everyone can get them if they wish to pursue them, the same way a promo code is accessible for all those who use certain social media platforms to access this information. It's there to be taken if you know about it, you just have to put a little effort to get them. The same with CCP perks. So you are right it's not Quantum mechanics, it's being able to understand simple mechanics like a + b = c. You produce content People watch content. Content qualifies you to get into CCP which comes with X resources. Who can get this = Everyone. It IS freely accessible to everyone. You simply mooted your own argument. You also have the opinion that I was speaking pedantically, however, I just showed it in real terms. Not a semantic, nor pedantic view. If you were unable to understand what I was saying in "real terms" then I unfortunately either did not impart my meaning clearly in my first comment, or I overestimated your intelligence. On the first, I apologise if you felt I was being pedantic, an insult to your intelligence was not intended, and perhaps you can see where I joined the dots now in my argument. If it is the second however, then sorry again for being too high headed for you I guess. Knowledge is an equal access opportunity, but someone, somewhere still had to gain it, and "pay" for it before you did as it was not your original thought to begin with. Regardless of what you may think about that, that is still the truth behind it. Furthermore, not all knowledge is freely given, ask any university out there if you can just come along and learn for free and see where that gets you. In your opinion, knowledge has zero value as a resource. Then I say to you, don't watch anyone or anything, nor use any information new or used because you already know it all so no need to obviously, unless it's just for purely entertainment reason ofc. Alternatively, you could impart that knowledge as a CC on YT, a free public access social media platform, and you too can benefit form the CCP perks you "worked for" if you wish too, and call yourself f2p, or not.

[@vohbovohborian28]

This argument is ridiculous. First off, let's be real here: not EVERYONE can become a content creator and not EVERYONE who is a content creator is going to be in the rewards program. In fact, I would argue that most content creators are NOT in the rewards program, if we even know what the requirements are, and if those requirements are objective and accessible. The, content creation is not a skill most people have, nor are they inclined to do so. Creating content has barriers, both material and immaterial, as well as time and drive. Second, and more importantly, there is no real difference between you converting your time into creating content or just working overtime and then buying packs in game with the money you just made. It is most likely more effective. That is not the point, neither of them are free to play. IF you stop creating content for raid, I am certain your benefits are going to immediately stop. Either way, you are converting time you are not spending on playing into additional resources. So why would you not call someone who does 3 hours of overtime a week for raid stuff also Free to play ? I think you know the answer. Once someone publishes knowledge publicly, it becomes well... public knowledge. It is from then on freely accessible to everyone, regardless of who initially gained it. The fact that someone gained it and then some content creator regurgitated it is not relevant. It's that CC's business model to present knowledge in an easily accessible format. That is also great, and as I said repeatedly, some of the best content creators for pay to win games are huge whales, exactly because they can experiment and do things that others cannot, with wide rosters and with complete disregard for wasting resources. I would even go so far as saying that most of the best content creators are whales (not all). This is also NOT my argument. And finally, the reason WHY your argument is utterly ridiculous: It DOES NOT MATTER how additional resources found their way into your account, IF YOU GOT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, IT NO LONGER REPRESENTS A FREE TO PLAY ACCOUNT. So don't claim it is ? That is the ONLY problem I have in this entire issue. So no, you are NOT free to play if in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, thousands of dollars worth of resources magically appeared in your account. That's like saying: Well I was poor all my life but through hard work and winning the lottery, I am now a millionaire.

[@Dharin.]

@@vohbovohborian28 The argument is certainly ridiculous. You conflate different things as if they are one and your comments just go to show that you are completely ignorant of the facts. ANYONE can and has the opportunity to become a CC, and there have been many vids over the years telling you how they did it, the perks have been advertised multiple times etc. I assume there is also a section somewhere on Palarium's website but I cannot be certain as I couldn't give a f*ck about it myself. Not everyone will have the desire, inclination, nor talent to be able to do so but anyone and everyone has the opportunity... period. That is no different than your "public knowledge" argument. Goose and Gander me thinks. However, if you have a broom accessible, you can sweep the floor with it, you just don't have to when there is also a vacuum cleaner available. The skill to become a successful CC is not going to be reached by everyone who turns on a camera, any more than there will only be f2p players in Raid but does that mean you or I can't try the f2p life? Availability and skill, inclination are completely different things. The knowledge and knowhow is also there for people to acquire if they so choose. spending money or not is down to you, so do you want the broom, or the vacuum? The same for those promo codes you spoke so highly about. They are there, but ONLY for those who use social media when it comes to them as Paylarium DON'T advertise them inside the game for ALL to access. So, again it's knowledge and information for only those in the know. A bit like becoming a CC, it's all out there in the public domain, so why aren't you taking advantage of it. That gives those who do know about the promo codes an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't. It's not therefore truly f2p, open to all using your very own argument because it's not accessible to those who don't use social media as already stated. If it's for everybody then simply advertise the promo codes either on the official website, but certainly somewhere in game if it's available to all and not only IF you use these selective variants of social media OUTSIDE the game. He got to end game with 2 accounts BEFORE he became a CC. He knows the game better than most, and especially the f2p life. He gets CC perks because he chose to apply for it because he met the criteria that is required to receive them after reaching END GAME TWICE and BEFORE he revived any CCP rewards. He is not working overtime at a job, he is doing something that he loves and getting a reward for it. You paly Raid and your reward is enjoyment. What price is that exactly, because mine is £9.99 a month for a gem pack, but then I'm giving something to receive something in exchange that allows me to do more of that something. I'm not f2p therefore. What money exchange has there been? How much money have you received from Paylarium when you TOOK the PERKS from them from knowledge that many have no access to because they do not watch, read, or listen to any form of social media related to Raid? That is an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE is it not? It certainly has a monetary value, and the argument that "but it's out there if you look for it" is no different from "the CC program is out there and anyone can try to gain access to it." Be consistent, or don't engage either your mouth, or your fingers writing BS. When you give him a thumbs up, or leave a comment, you are rewarding him and YT's algorithms pick this up and send it out to others, or bumps it up the list. Is he paying YT to do this? No, it's a scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. you do me a favour, and we'll do you a favour. The best you can call that is... payment in kind. Go look it up if you do not know what it means and stop conflating things and think it's coherent because it's not, as that shows your complete lack of understanding. Ignorance is something that can be removed with knowledge. Apparently, all knowledge is free according to you, so there really is no excuse.

[@marcthepunkplay]

I respectfully disagree. I have stopped playing RSL about 5 months ago after maintaining a 4 year account as a true ftp player. To model an account as such is just folie. It's a misrepresentation on resources obtained.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Fair enough. I always appreciate the respectful approach. 🫡 I will suggest that you may find "The no true Scotsman fallacy" an interesting topic to delve into. Another commenter brought it up, and I think it applies well to this controversy. Thanks for the comment!

[@Tnargav]

I would compare this situation to doing something within the law but still it being questionable because the law doesn't cover your specific case. Is he F2P, sure, by the definition of not spending money on the account. Is his account progression comparable to a F2P account, no as he's being given extra resources. He's current state of his account and game experience is irrelevant to the issue. It's, again, similar to non-P2W argumentation of "you can get there by just playing the game". If he and me were to start a new account and I was to follow his guides, he would shoot off in progression with his account deeming the experience unrelatable because of the extra resources he receives. Is he F2P, yes, but ... (and that but is why people have an issue here).

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I don't think that's a fair comparison. What moral imperative indicates that getting free resources in the manner that Boozor has is somehow wrong? Simply because someone else "can't" get them? By what measure? Are those resources locked away? No. Other players can become CCs if they want to put in the time and effort to do so. Simply not wanting or not having the ability to take Boozor's path to his resources isn't a reason to disqualify those resources as free. What about exclusive champions, like the monster hunter champs, that were acquired freely (zinogre was a fusion, for instance), but can no longer be acquired by new players? Those are actually impossible to get now, while CC resources are only very difficult to get, and yet no one disputes that having fused Zinogre in the past makes you ineligible to call yourself F2P now. What about winning a champion chase tournament and getting a free champion or soul that only 1 in 100 people can win? If I was able to win one of those through luck or craft and you weren't, would you call me "not F2P" because my experience was atypical? The truth is, there is NO moral imperative that states "All F2P experiences must be equal," because that's a literal impossibility. Stating so would ignore both the wide variety of gamer personalities and the highly variable nature of games in general and gacha games specifically. Is Boozor's experience different than most? Absolutely. Is it still a F2P experience? Absolutely.

[@Tnargav]

@@ColredPlaysRSL You are strawmanning here so hard that it's unbelievable. Where did I say it is wrong? Where did I say my experience has to be equal? You again following up with what I have said before about non-P2W argument of "you can get there by just playing the game" by saying "Other players can become CCs if they want to put in the time and effort to do so." And? You end up with the same issue where someone is fed addition resources. The rest of your comparison is false equivalence. You are comparing resources you can get in-game to someone being fed resources "for free". By that logic if someone buys me resources each week I will be F2P as I haven't bought it ... "makes" sense. I see why you defend it so much as you have mentioned you wanted to join the CC program and you realized that your "F2P" status would be questioned at that point and rightly so. It baffles me you would say that someone with additional resources will have the same experience as one without it. Unbelievable.

[@arizona4ever]

f2p means that u dint spend your own money in a game,is someone give u something or a program give you something for free,meaning that u don't spend money is still free,with that being said, things that he get are free, so he is f2p,now it is the same like other f2p players maybe no,but the concept of the frases f2p still the same,cc weekly reward are freeeee,them no1 is f2p because everyone get gifts from plarium for game updates, example 1 demon lord key,some energy and silver, for everyone for free everytime that a new version launch, plus went game is lagging they compensate everyone with gifts

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I agree with you. I think most people do too, but there's still a vocal minority that disagree, and feel pretty strongly about it. I think the hubbub on this one is already starting to die down (thankfully). I hope that Boozor is feeling better about everything this week. He's been putting out a lot of videos - so that's a good sign. Thanks for the comment!

[@tommydashed4205]

Its free to play. He didn't pay. Anyone can join the cc program if they put in the work and get the viewers/community.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thank you for saying so. A lot of people dispute this idea. They think it's ridiculous to suggest that anyone can become a CC.

[@KBohn]

So, in summary: A F2P player is granted resources by THE GAME by becoming arguably one of the worlds best players. He spent zero dollars to acquire those resources other than many hours of skilled game play. Those resources ARE available to anyone willing to put in the work. I don't see a problem here other than whiny internet trolls stepping out from under their bridges. Let's move on.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Succinctly put. 👍

[@ScrubbishDM]

It doesn't surprise me that Colred has this opinion. He is actively trying to get into the CC program, which implies that he also wants said resources and would also want to maintain 100% f2p tag. Also, i don't think your point about putting a dollar value on your account based on what you've earned in game is a good argument against the people putting a dollar value on the resources received by CC's weekly. The reason why is what in my opinion is the whole issue in the first place, because you earned those rewards in game over time. F2P is a grind. That is the point. The CC resrouces are a insane amount of resources to receive every week. that the everyday F2P cannot gain access to. Colred is also somewhat proof that it isn't as easy as just become a CC yourself to get the rewards as even he hasn't been accepted, Same with HH gaming. I think it is an interesting topic and even the CC's are split on this. I think JGigs put it best. Those resources are giving you a different experience to other f2p players. Thus you are no longer in the same position as them. Can Boozer continue to give F2P style advice? Absolutely, his account and playstyle were next level before he was a CC and maintains that mentality, but i also agree that he should not claim to be amongst the F2P community (on his main account, his alt account is still busted good and F2P), because of those additional rewards. Even if some of the rewards have some diminishing returns such as the books lose some value over time, the rest still gives a massive boost vs the every day F2P community.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Just a quick note, I'm not actively trying to get into the CC program. I gave up on that some time ago. I haven't re-applied in probably 6 months and if they offered it to me now, I would have to seriously contemplate my decision, not because of any worry about my F2P status, but because I really don't like the way Plarium has been acting lately. Go watch my recent "Dear Plarium" video if you don't believe me.

[@ScrubbishDM]

@@ColredPlaysRSL Watched it, and fair enough. But I still don't agree with the representation you gave with how all resources can be totalled up over time to give a dollar value. The big difference is all players have access to those same rewards over a period of time, with maybe the exception of daily log in champs like ninja. I don't think we'll ever get a full community agreement on this because people have different philosophies on what is F2P. Some might have spent in the past and stopped and now consider themselves F2P now. Others may go down the technically F2P as in there has been no real cash transactions and therefore F2P, even if they win Giveaways/CC rewards/prime rewards etc.. Lastly, i think someone called it "Purest" F2P mentality where F2P means only what the base game offers. Regardless on what side you fall on i think it is interesting topic.

[@jeremyk3604]

Just so you know I don’t believe any of you that claim f2p. Outside of the random new accounts cc make for videos the rest is nonsense

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

That's unfortunate. There was, for a very short time, a glitch in one patch about 2 years ago where you could actually generate a spending report in game. I wish Plarium would bring it back (they won't, because it might stop some people from spending). I'm F2P. 100% Your belief or disbelief of that fact doesn't affect the truth of it. Just your willingness to listen to what I have to say. Ah, well.

[@dakkar4962]

Rewards from being a content creator are earned through activities outside of normal gameplay; therefore, achievements on such accounts cannot be regarded as earned through free-to-play gameplay. For example, Boozor can no longer say: 'Hey guys, look, I got Freya completely free-to-play, and you can too, just follow my steps!' because he receives 5000+ gems a month, tons of energy, books, and chickens outside of regular gameplay. My experience as a free-to-play player is completely different from his. And the argument that anyone can join the creator's program to receive those rewards is just silly.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Thanks for the comment. I disagree (clearly 😆). Here's why: "Rewards from being a content creator are earned through activities outside of normal gameplay; therefore, achievements on such accounts cannot be regarded as earned through free-to-play gameplay." This is a circular argument. It's like saying "Joe is a human being, because he was born to human parents." All of it is true, but there's no actual assertion being made. "My experience as a free-to-play player is completely different from his." Yes, and from mine, and from every other F2Per in the game. A difference in F2P experiences does not disqualify anyone from being categorized as F2P. Does he get a different level of resources than you? Yes. Did he spend money? No. That's F2P. "And the argument that anyone can join the creator's program to receive those rewards is just silly." No, it's not. I'm not arguing that anyone can join the CC program. I'm arguing that everyone has an equal opportunity in the same way that everyone has an equal opportunity to build a 1 key UNM CB team (for instance). If you want the rewards from UNM, you work hard, apply effort, skill, and maybe some luck, and you've got a good shot at getting a 1-key result. That's the same as getting into the CC program. The only way those CC resources are locked away from anyone is if Plarium literally says, "We don't take Canadians" or something equally ridiculous. You can CHOOSE not to pursue those CC rewards, just as your can choose not to pursue Hydra rewards. But they are out there, and equally available for anyone who had the skill and determination to try to acquire them.

[@mherrick5891]

Maybe they think you're StewGaming?

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Lol! Maybe.

[@lfc-1892]

Thank you for the great content as usual... I am totally f2p but I use promo codes and Amazon prime stuff... also I won gems from CCs. I am f2p and bozor too. People with negative comments and judgments about others make me sad.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Great position, lfc! I appreciate you sharing.

[@exeubuskomotos927]

People cannot agree on what a F2P player is. This matter is still as subjective as ever. I suppose maybe we should have tiers of F2P, each with its own classifications/account base.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

I've seen this suggestion in the comments a few times. Since gamers will never all agree on any topic, I do think it's a reasonable suggestion, as far as when it comes to casual conversations. When it comes to publicly criticizing people, however, we need to use the broadest, most accepted definitions available. I think 99% of players would say that the simplest definition for F2P is to not spend money. If you think it is more than that, that's fine. However, to hold someone to your personally preferred definition, and then call them a liar when they use a different, but generally accepted definition, is the type of character assassination that won't be prevented by some slightly more nuanced verbiage. Not that I'm unwilling to try. Anything's better than this angry mob we've got going right now. Thanks for your comment!

[@jonathonberg5465]

In my opinion, he is still free to play by definition, but he can never put himself into the same category that is actually free to play. You can not deny that the amount of resources received a month is equivalent to a hefty spender. That amount of resources from one week is enough to complete a fusion easily. I don't like the counterargument you made about the amount of resources from account to account in dollar amount because the resources he is receiving are completely exterior to the actual game. In a sense, he is not paying with money, he is paying with time.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

There's no reason you can't pay for resources with time. If that were the case, you'd have to scratch grinding off the list of F2P activities. Now, sure, time is money, and all that. But if the CC rewards were truly compensation from Plarium, and not just a show of appreciation, they would have to be taxed. They aren't, because CCs don't work for Plarium. They aren't paid by Plarium. They aren't given ANY directives at all about their content from Plarium. In fact, now that I think of it, the CC rewards are more like a free t-shirt giveaway for showing up to an event. You get a free t-shirt, and the company gets a live, walking billboard for the cost of a cheap t-shirt.

[@jonathonberg5465]

@ColredPlaysRSL you have a strong argument, and we can agree to disagree. The way I see it is, if you are receiving a large quantity of resources for free that is not available to the general audience, you have an inherent advantage. You may see it as Boozer is paying with time and devotion, but isn't that also a benefit? He is capable of spending significantly more time playing the game and grinding because of these resources that normal ftp do not have. All I'm saying is that being born into wealth and becoming rich is vastly different than being born poor and working your way up. Both people are rich, but they shouldn't really be in the same class.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

@@jonathonberg5465 You've got something there. But, using your analogy, Boozor was poor and worked his way up and now people are saying he's not a "self-made man" because his bank is paying him more interest than they are getting. Yeah, he's got more money in the bank. Because he's a self-made millionaire and you're still working your way up. If you ever get there, you'll get that interest too.

[@d3clazclown716]

@@ColredPlaysRSL Sir. I'm going to need you to stop right there; in the disclaimer documents that you have to sign to become a part of the CC program; it directly states that you CANNOT talk about the perks and support you receive as a CC without prior consent from Plarium. The most I've heard of the CC program over the last 3 years was Ash mention that he gets "a few books and chickens tossed his way for the purposes of making content". he then went on to say that he spends those resources making content people want to see, which is either champion highlights or easily accessible teams to clear content with. Essentially; playing the game and progressing his account. The point is; you're not supposed to talk about it; and most don't. No one ever really knew what CC's got exactly. Now people know.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

@@d3clazclown716 You're correct - CCs aren't supposed to talk about certain specifics of the CC program, including their rewards. That being said, Plarium has never really enforced that rule, and the information has been both intentionally and inadvertently leaked multiple times over the years. As a result, you can find the information readily on the internet. For proof, let me direct you to Ash's recent video on this topic - he's clearly comfortable talking about the specifics of the rewards in the video. The embargo on this info has never really held up. Again, some players have never cared to look for it, but the info is out there and readily available. I knew about it 3 years ago myself.

[@Yobinski4900]

🎉 Boozer is awesome 🎉. Just cause you get some F’ing piddly stuff from Plarium doesn’t make him NOT FTP. Ignore the trolls!

[@andre97621]

Yes it does lol. Thats like saying just be cause my mom bought me stuff and I didn't pay I'm f2p. He's being given goods for services lmao. Stop the cap. Good for him for getting stuff but that's not f2p

[@stanleyclark923]

In Boozor's first video addressing this issue, "F2P GETS WEEKLY FREE PACKS? EVERYTHING EXPLAINED! | RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS" he says so himself at 3:12 "Let me be clear guys. This is a hell of a lot of resources for a ftp player. I'm not gonna lie." So who is lying, you or Boozor? Maybe you're the troll? 😂

[@charlesklein6399]

It’s not “piddly” to those that are actually FTP, he’s getting tons of valuable resources that ACTUAL FTP don’t get. That’s it

[@wigiti]

F2P was meant to show how far you can get using just resources earned through in game activities.. Simple as that. We can twist it to mean something else, but that was the core part.

[@michaelbenti5383]

Exactly!

[@EssEmm-l8z]

Maybe he just showed you that the definition of F2P is more expansive than you thought. Or rather, what F2P is capable of.

[@vyvy-16]

100%. The 'drama' isn't really about Boozor, it's about how Plarium tries to present their game and the steps they take to form players' expectations.

[@afurryball]

It is nice to see that fellow CC community is trying to defend Booz so hard. But you all guys miss or choose to ignore the main point here. The moment you receive in-game resources by any means other than playing the actual game - you are no longer a F2P player. It is that simple. He should have told his community that his main account was no longer a F2P account the moment he joined the Plarium program. But he didn't, and it exploded when CC perks were exposed. The F2P image was damaged and it will take some time to earn the trust back.

[@barbinman4018]

do you include the referral program? that's not playing the game (unless you're referring to yourself which is a whole other ethical question).

[@MychaelHayashi]

Every 8-16 months we will get this influx of newer players who discover things about the game that’s already been addressed in the past. Then get historical about it as if the CC program is this new concept. I know this because I was one of them.

[@charlesklein6399]

You saying those resources aren’t that good is absolutely RIDICULOUS, as well as saying that they don’t directly benefit him. Get out of here. Enjoy your content, but you’re really out of touch on this one. Also, saying he’s just better than everyone is garbage. Not everyone has the ability or wherewithal to be a content creator. So no, not everyone that wants to can get the same resources. It’s not about ability.

[@ColredPlaysRSL]

Re-watch that section. I said, "As a content creator..." I'm saying that if you gave me those resources just for content creation, I would run through them in an instant, and it would barely benefit my account. It wouldn't even help me make that much content. That doesn't mean those resources wouldn't be more valuable to someone else, especially a newer account. But they aren't as valuable to Boozor as people may think (or claim) they are. Also, he IS better than the vast majority of players. If you don't believe me, look what he's done on his second account (which doesn't get the rewards). It's ridiculous how much he's accomplished in RAID as F2P. I should know; I'm no slouch myself. And yes, he's better at RAID than I am. There may be some F2Pers who are better than both of us, but not many, that's for sure.

[@ragex2636]

The real world dollar arguement means 100% nothing, because that is all items ALL f2p can get. ALL f2p cannot GET what the CC oack gives. Every single day there is a exact amount of resources that are 100% possible by EVERY player...those resources that u get from the CC is EXTRA on top and not part of that resource.