“This Law Is Unhelpful And Dangerous” | Scotland’s Hate Crime Law Comes Into Effect

Scotland's new hate crime law has been put into effect but critics fear it may limit free speech, while senior police officials expect a surge in complaints about online content.
The Scottish government defends the law, arguing that it safeguards against hate and prejudice while allowing for individual expression. However, Victims and Community Safety Minister Siobhian Brown's claim that the law was unanimously passed in 2021 is inaccurate. It was approved with 82 votes to 32 and four abstentions after heated debates.
The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 introduces a new offense of "stirring up hatred" concerning various protected characteristics, with a maximum penalty of seven years' imprisonment.
The law prohibits communicating material or behaving in a manner deemed threatening, abusive, or insulting with the intent to incite hatred based on protected characteristics. While similar offenses were already illegal in England and Wales under the Public Order Act 1986, Scotland's law expands the scope by including "insulting" behaviour and requiring only a likelihood, rather than intent, to incite hatred.
Dehenna Davison speaks with journalist Debbie Hayton, author Matthew Stadlen and former government advisor Claire Pearsall.
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[@davidmiller4078]

I cant be the only one to think Yousless Humza should be prosecuted on his white rant recently ?

[@tedmckee3169]

You most definitely are not, but considering the number of people who took great offence at that hate/racist filled speech (including myself), I'm shocked that he wasn't challenged regarding it, at least not to my knowledge.

[@lisah9561]

@@tedmckee3169 many people have reported him for it now he thought he was silencing us truth is, he silenced himself Never even saw it coming

[@duncanbrown7082]

I think most of the 6 million people must think so.

[@haroon7555]

Shut ur mouth! His in laws where in Palestine while UK was fund and send weapons to criminal terrorist bombing children! It for racist people like you

[@juliemaddern]

He might get quiet a suprise as to how many deeply offended white people have already put in a complaint about him 😁

[@BigBazz-Clips]

humza yousaf should be arrested for his racist speech

[@vladtheimpaler8995]

I made on line hate complaint today. I requested police visit Humza Yousaf at his Bute house address as I found a speech he gave on June 10 , 2021 in Holyrood to be hateful. I’m still hiding in my safe place , clutching my pearls .

[@Myfaceuh]

Did you really do that? 😂

[@vladtheimpaler8995]

@@Myfaceuh Yes. It’s quite easy to. Takes 5 minutes on line . Anonymous of course . I can’t afford the Scottish plod to confiscate my phone .

[@mm3nrx]

it will not be investigated due to the crime happening before 1/4/2024...but you will get many many more chances no doubt ;)

[@kilakiki8900]

Humza Yousaf needs to be arrested now ! he made a hate speech in scotland parliment and created massive bad influence to the society

[@user-midnightmachanic]

I done exactly same thing last night for his white white rasist rant police coming out in next couple days to take a formal statment

[@Aloh-od3ef]

The politicians think 1984 was not a warning. But a guide book! 😉

[@OrwellsHousecat]

🐱

[@debbietaylor5183]

It was a fore-warning for citizens however

[@DavesGarden1714]

Ask the Scottish people what they think of the SNPs hate policies

[@charleslouden6600]

We hate it.

[@DavesGarden1714]

@@charleslouden6600 I dont blame you

[@SilverSparkles22]

Depends on the "type" of Scottish person. WHITE BIOLOGICAL FEMALES AREN'T PROTECTED SO WE HATE IT.

[@Scotland4scotland]

Absolutely disgusting behaviour

[@LS-qq4zc]

I wrote to my MSP plus the list MSPs. Only the Conservatives who voted against this law have replied. Tells you all you need to know.

[@Unknown-ti3um]

Unworkable and will get scrapped soon

[@colinpenaluna9268]

So criminals can commit crimes and nothing will be done As the Police will investigate these pathetic laws first

[@juliemaddern]

Exactly! Not enough resources for real crime but plenty for this pathetic crap

[@JANICEJANILLY]

It’s a cloak for a blasphemy law against islam

[@lisah9561]

criticism of religions is protected in our laws. let him try to get you for that. the court will drop the case and you will receive compensation.

[@Kliss2765]

It's also a cloak to stop women calling MEN MEN.

[@JANICEJANILLY]

Yes I’m 70 so lived through irans takeover by Islam, it used to be like us until the Muslims poured into iran and many other countries. They are here to take over and they say this openly. It’s our indigenous people that should wake up and open their eyes and read between the msm news@Ashlyn-qg5tt

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

Ah, there it is - Matthew thinks that by silencing people he doesn't agree with, he'll somehow get revenge on his bullies. The irony is that he's turned into a bully himself, an idiot who tried to manipulate and shame a real woman like Helen Joyce for refusing to pretend that some men are real women too, because they say so.

[@Walksfar64]

He should resign asap .

[@LeftTownMedia]

Maybe it's an April fools day prank. If only

[@tommyh4116]

I reported Humza's hate speech on the Scottish police hate crime website. Hope I'm not the only one to do so.

[@sonny9161]

You're not the only one, i can assure you of that. United we must stand 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@juliemaddern]

Me too X and many others have

[@sonny9161]

Have just finished submitting complaint to police about Humza hate speech. Let's see what happens 🤨🤨🤨🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@juliemaddern]

@@sonny9161 x♥X

[@MarkVA71]

He’s above the law and your complaint will be disregarded.

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

Why are women not including in the groups protected by the law? You are allowed to say the most offensive things to women, and Scotland supports it

[@ChrisMurray-iw9ij]

Women aren't a protected characteristic if they were they could demand their own changing rooms and prisons

[@shelleylyme6402]

A confrontation between J K Rowling and the despicable racist Yousaf could prove to be the watershed. Feminine grace is the bedrock upon which all civilised values rest. Women united in a common cause are the most formidable social force there is - remember the Sarah Everard vigil on Clapham Common. Now this could be the turning point for which so many have been hoping in all this time.

[@imbonkers3629]

Because they don’t want you having the right to complain about a man in a wig going into womens changing rooms toilets 🚽 etc

[@ChrisMurray-iw9ij]

@@YerDaPuntsAvon too gender specific

[@SilverSparkles22]

​@@imbonkers3629Boom

[@thedeathcake]

Scotland. The country I live in. Out used to be synonymous with banter and great comedians. Now look at us 😢. We've used unisex toilets for high school kids, laws that curtail your speech bookended with some pressing about likely to be taken hatefully. Can't drive down a road without hitting a pot hole. Litter everywhere. Drugs everywhere. Obesity at record levels. And what's the thing you are going after? Your speech.

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

This law has one positive aspect. The world will now see the way Scotland behaves and Scotland will be exposed for the authoritarian regime which they are

[@junglie5055]

Its the same law as in England....

[@Kliss2765]

The SNP! please the vast majority of people in Scotland of whom I am one are not like that and don't vote for these idots. They are only in power thanks to being propped up by the Green party Mp's to get any concensus.

[@theodorerobertson9400]

This Matthew Stadlen muppet spent the entire show with "If someone has legally transitioned into the opposite why shouldn't the police get involved in Scotland? " He's conflating civil law and criminal law. As for Stadlen being "thick skinned" I bet if he met an online troll in real life he'd resemble a cholera victim. Btw I'm writing this in Scotland and if anyone has a problem with what I wrote send Plod around and see what happens

[@brospartacus5069]

*Stadlen is from the tribe that got kicked out of Germany for pushing this nonsense in books.* *They never learn.*

[@smunro1983]

I hope a lot of people are reporting Humza to the police for his anti white rant in parliament. I also hope the nurseries that humzas wife accused as racist when she tried to register foreign sounding names file a report to the police. This guy is like Mr Bean, without the comedy. He epitomises the Peter Principle and it makes me physically unwell when I see him on TV.

[@geob8172]

I Hate that Law !

[@juliemaddern]

It's a disgusting law

[@johnomay3734]

Vote SNP. Get Pakistan

[@SilverSparkles22]

Aye but freeDUMB

[@uniquevideosUk]

I'm offended by Humzas speech i see online! I feel insecure in my own skin! Isn't that racism by definition.

[@daniellewinton2398]

This law has been allowed to be made. It’s about power

[@Aloh-od3ef]

Can people from England make report of a hate crime, to the Scottish police?

[@rogerwilson6367]

Yes. I find Humza's face offensive.

[@imbonkers3629]

No but they can if they open a tweet in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and say it offends them even thou it’s from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 you get investigated, so a none hate crime can go on your record without you even knowing 😮

[@CaptainFantastic-m3r]

As an Irishman talking to my Scottish brothers and sisters. Do you have any idea of the consequences of letting this law pass? Sorry folks but one of the few rights that should be emphatically unalienable is the right to free speech and you have just lost yours. Holy mother of God!

[@robcod3568]

The responsibility of being offended is with the listener not the speaker. Unless someone calls for someone to take action against another human being. “Life’s tough get a helmet “. Candace Owens.

[@RupertBear412]

why did the presenter apologise? nothing bad or illegal was said

[@stratfordbaby]

Still remember when Dehenna thought it was important to tell us she was bisexual.

[@cathal3020]

Why is the scottish first minister called "humza yousef" ???? World is done out

[@louisefisher6805]

Racism is an ugly look.

[@Eliahist]

Is Humza transgender Muslim?

[@hilarylazard7554]

He is a traitor to ISLAM, EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY DON’t accept any form of sexual deviance.

[@marieparker3822]

There is no protection for women in the Scottish Anti-hate April Fool's Day Act. Just saying. . .

[@joen4642]

That's how it got there.. it's really trendy not to protect women's rights but gender feelings insteed. But look at the extend of this law.

[@MarthaAnthony]

So, gender is not a protected category, but "gender identity" is?

[@joen4642]

Gender feelings is, biological sex isn't. I wonder who that will hurt?

[@vivian9187]

Visit Glasgow - now twinned with Kabul😂😂

[@alp8409]

There’s meant to be 5 comments here but I only see 1. I guess the Thought Police are getting busy

[@ph8077]

My comments are only allowed when I don't give my take on any subject.

[@juliemaddern]

vanishing into thin air, mine too!

[@alp8409]

I’ve gotta tip my hat your interviewee Dr Debbie. Whilst eating my cheese and flatbreads I was nodding away thinking this woman is speaking a lot of common sense. What a surprise to find out that the Dr had jumped the fence to join the women’s team so to say. I wish all trans were like her able to get on with her life without imposing their sense of self-importance over women born as women, able to live in harmony rather than trying to cause division and strife.

[@veronicameethan3787]

Debbie always speaks sense 👍

[@meangene408]

But most people like to go through life under the radar. Most people just want a quiet life.

[@chrism3236]

I very much dislike this new legislation. I would like to make it clear that I definitely do not hate it 😂

[@chrisreynolds3351]

COME ON SCOTS. REBEL REBEL : 🎶 O flower of Scotland When will we see Your like again, That fought and died for, Your wee bit hill and glen, And stood against him, Humas Yusaf, And sent him homeward, Tae think again. 🎶 Gather in crowds, stand around, all saying exactly what you think. Go on line at midday and write what YOU think. SPEAK FREE. BE FREE. IT´S YOUR COUNTRY. Your country does not belong to one man. IT´s YOURS.

[@margaretpepper3550]

Writing as another transwoman I want to make it quite clear that I totally agree with Debbie. Also, in my opinion there should be no such things as a "protected characteristic" !! Also in my opinion, the woke guy talking about trans obviously has no idea of what he is talking about....

[@lisah9561]

protected characteristics were made to help people stop being discrimiated against for something they were born with ie race and disability... a noble cause. yet is has been spread out to protect people choices, ie religion and gender identity.

[@jasonhartley1305]

You are a man.

[@stratfordbaby]

Stadlen talks out of his backside about literally everything.

[@mariaingledew1971]

Just use your vote get snow out .

[@timh132]

Useless has asked for more dog poo around his garden. As we don't hate dogs😅

[@IIChristisKingII]

I heard his house windows have been smashed

[@ph8077]

This law is obviously an April Fool's joke....nice one, Scotland.

[@SilverSparkles22]

If only

[@Christine-os7le]

I am Scottish and don’t agree with this law it could affect people trying to get a job once the employer goes to do a disclosure on you and this hate thing is on it your not getting the job this new law is going to couse big problems I find it as a invasion of innocent lives as there could be sameone out there say cuz and before you know it your involved with police record and your innocent on lies innocent until proven guilty

[@dondarkblade1460]

why are men not included seeing as misandry is far greater and more socialy acceptable than misogyny. this law is about shutting down any criticism about anything.

[@dondarkblade1460]

@@Riedebee im a man according to feminists i cant speak for women so women have to post their own rebuttle to this law.

[@Dus1234]

Hope Scotland has enough police 😂

[@SilverSparkles22]

It's OK they're not investigating crimes where there is no proof. 100% of hate crimes will be investigated. That's how fukked up Scotland is

[@stratfordbaby]

Love Dr. Debbie Hayton.

[@juliemaddern]

So correct, totally agree, we must stick together on this, this behaviour is another version of bullying to shut us all up, don't think it has anything to do with trans more about the take over of our country

[@LS-qq4zc]

Please complain to your MSP. I have. Keep the emails going.

[@leehenry5764]

The highest QC in the land said. Dont use Rushdie he isn't law, hes a writer.

[@glasgowmedia7421]

This was a great interview. Good on Dr Debbie Hayton. She summed everything up perfectly. We need more brave people like Debbie 👏

[@williamsafari6437]

this law will be policed EXACTLY the same way the pro hamas protests in the uk are policed .

[@mxpe21]

Presenter talks to interviewer about the negativities of using the trans ally concept as a political football, proceeds to instantly ask her colleague about the idea of trans women being men? Take your own advice and stick to the topic at hand, this is supposed to be about the hate speech laws.

[@CdEmm50]

That's "an idea" to you. FFS!

[@harrizar1772206]

6:58 when he says about reliving images of bulling from when he was at school, yes the internet can be a toxic place but theres a lot in place to halt it, the fact that a lot of things are even being sensored is proof enough so if his going to talk about what goes on in the internet shouldn't he be thinking about amending his health so that he doesn't have to feel like his revisiting the days he was bullied, sure its not nice being bullied but in hindsight people do it as a form of uplifting support, and that support can be in two forms, either you join the bullies and bully others or you grow up and confront them.

[@prideofdurham4776]

How was this law passed in the first place? Politicians are chosen for their intelligence , honesty and love for their constituents.Oh , right SNP.

[@geozeo710]

Well said Debbie

[@author4you443]

Matthew is so very captured, that even when Debbie Heaton informs him trans "women" are men, he won't accept it, clinging to his strongly held belief that Trans-women are actually women 🤔

[@darrengallagher4385]

Similar to Equilibrium, Emotions are outlawed 🤔

[@daniellewinton2398]

Equality no longer applies

[@WickedScott]

I don’t need a trans lecturing me about rejecting my humanity.

[@annearly3200]

There was a teacher who called a student by their last name but refrained from using pronouns and was fired because the school said that was not good enough. They needed him to say pronouns

[@seanonel]

I see that this law does not cover freedom from religious persecution...

[@artistreality]

Can one journalist actually ask a politician the following question. The ECHR "Article 10 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers." Now in court, when immigrants challenged deportation and the Tories legislation. The court clearly stated that all laws must be in line with the ECHR. Therefore hate speech laws are not compatible and I would love someone to point this out. Unless you promote violence or its a public health issue, no hate speech/crime law can work unless its in line with the ECHR. We've literally had a judge say this and was upheld.

[@IIChristisKingII]

Could the SNP locking up a trans woman in a male prison be considered a hate crime? the question should be put to Humza. 😅

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Asking the question is considered a crime

[@juliemaddern]

Why are my comments vanishing?

[@BootneckAlphaKilo]

Instead of actually enforcing existing laws, because they're too 'sensitive' Just make up more laws (which are even less enforceable) to divide everybody, that little bit more. - Britain in a nutshell

[@joannelewis3390]

Scary policing thoughts. The thought police

[@leehenry5764]

How long before biology is scrapped😂

[@tedmckee3169]

You mean it hasn't been????

[@MileyPit]

There was already hate crimes towards trans people before these campaigns came along. So Debbie is chatting rubbish. Just like hate towards anybody else. The main difference is the introduction of social media & that fuels a lot of hate that transfers to real life.

[@veronicameethan3787]

by under the radar I think she just means not making a big issue about it and just getting on with your life

[@malhanneera]

Wonder Why - Such issues ,do not happen in Countries like----CHINA or any other Arab Countries??? OR they( Peaceful Community) dare not ? 🙊

[@louisefisher6805]

Do you mean places where people who are homosexual are thrown off buildings?

[@jasonhartley1305]

I disagree on the comment aboutwhat people say on line , this is often the only time people actually say what they really think... What I put on line I will stand by come what may .

[@graemebuchan8142]

Comparison with 1984 although accurate, I see more parallels to animal farm?

[@annllewellyn2884]

What going to happen with the fringe festival.....that will ot happen....there will be no tourists in scotland through this new law

[@allisonnancholas9620]

He doesn't mention when he uses women's single sex spaces I notice. Also stop calling men she/her

[@williamgeorgefraser]

I feel really sorry for those in the real trans community. They are genuine people who want to get on with their lives and live as they wish. I have good friends in the LGB community ( how I hate that term as it sets people apart) who are in a similar situation. However, activists from outside are ruining the lives of everyone to push their agenda. It all needs to stop but the last thing it needs is an intefering government trying to score political points.

[@zeldagoblin]

What's the "real trans community"? I only ask as whenever I point out any dreadful behaviour by a trans or tra, I'm told, they're not "true trans". It's sort of religious, in that the "no true Scotsman" fallacy is always used when Christianity/Islam followers are criticised for their horrendous behaviour.

[@StephenHopkinsVaults]

Still want your independence Scotland 😂?? Penny for your thoughts be careful what you wish for is that a crime too ? Wishing.

[@AutismIsUnstoppable]

You sound like a bunch of people that don't understand the Internet or Internet culture.

[@petermeyerhoff8737]

And just who is going to define what hate is. It just gives more cards to pull when the facts don't support your arguement. The right to freedom of speech comes with two other rights - the right to reply and the right to not listen. However the one right that is constantly ignored is the right to not have extreme opinions rammed down my throat and expected to be the norm. There are none so dissociated as those who ostracise themselves. Diversity is the indifference to each individual and not the creation of groups and variances. Those who attempt to monitor prejudice create and perpetuate it. Group identity = nonsense Intersectionality = even bigger nonsense. The nearest we will get to perfect is meritocracy, stop bashing square pegs into round holes; it looks a mess and will always leak.

[@ChrisDeehn]

I understand but being a hyper sensitive straight man unveil aggressive behaviour can be devastating for someone like me now that should be a criminal offence especially when it comes under abusive behaviour but like an dislike should never be political Cxxx 💚💐🌹 hedgmoon witch fairy 🇬🇧

[@BryanS-vm1xw]

Look I'm deleting my KZbin account and getting a new one just in case I get done I'll make a new one and they'll never know

[@tylersmith8038]

Well, let's be honest, it can't be just the immigrants that get protected now its wider range. Hope England does this

[@tedmckee3169]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ECECECECEC]

Lol will you lot have to be careful about your angertainment.

[@stellacoles5977]

🍿

[@ChrisDeehn]

Well done yes let's just be nice better to one another cxxx 💚💐🌹 hedgmoon witch fairy 🇬🇧

[@catherinepalmer9303]

Another law, to create dividance amongst communities. This is just another way to push forward a few persons views, onto the general public. All these laws are only going to irritate, demean and cancel out free speach altogether. There are a lot of people who call them trans. However, there a those who find it unbelievable that, straight people dont always agree with it. I do understand where Debbie is coming from, but there are a lot who are quite aggressive when arguing their point. That's what gets peoples back up.

[@EmJayAye]

Lol hahaha they are more concerned about hurting the feelings of people than concerned about a person possibly losing everything and living in dire straits. Dumbest law ever.

[@bensmith5231]

Mr Slightly Secret Woke On Again I See LoL 😅