This Marble Should Not Be Here! God of War Ragnarök

#godofwarragnarok #kratos
In this video I will discuss the Jotun Marvel and why one of them might hold a dark secret.
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[@gurburgandr]

The fact that the giants are probably scattered throughout many different pantheons always intrigued me. In my opinion it would be the best way to introduce new characters from lesser known mythologies who in the god of war universe could be part giant, perhaps Maoi, the god of wind and sea could help artreus master his shape shifting ability if thiatzi doesn't join him, perhaps when jormungandr was sent back in time, the primordial force he may have created a "son" in the form of quetzocoatl who could teach him mastery over foresight. I honestly think it would be awesome if we played as a journeying artreus that travels all across the world to find his people, such an awesome concept.

[@william58295]

🤌🏾✨✨✨

[@SomberP]

I always saw the connection between monkey kings abilities and Atreus as well. I would love to see a game based in Chinese mythology with Atreus either being trained by Sun Wu Kong, or filling his role. The story of journey to the west also fits perfectly with the theme of God of War, taking down corrupt gods.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I like the idea some went to Ireland and they’re the ancestors of the Fomorians or Tuatha De Dannaan

[@gurburgandr]

@@SomberP monkey king and Maui are pretty interchangeable, both are depicted as tricksters that have a penchant for transforming into other creature and can be good gods at times, with Maui pulling islands from the sea, gifting humanity coconuts and extending the day, I’m not sure what specifically the monkey king did but I know that he’s somewhat good, they could have maui teach Loki how to use his powers for the safety of others, and sun wu kong could teach Loki how to defend himself with his powers when the time is right

[@Paradox-es3bl]

I wouldn't mind a spin-off, but imo, it's not God Of WAR without Kratos. I mean, it could have been... but Atreus's entire story was about being different from and better than his father. He should never be a God Of War, imo. And someone may be like, "But what about Tyr?" imo, he USED to be the God Of War, but basically became the God Of Peace. Or maybe even Wisdom. So not really fitting of the title, either. But also, similar to Kratos, they both USED TO slaughter, basically. Atreus doesn't. So he can't even start as GOW and evolve like they did. It just doesn't fit him, imo. So the spin-off could be called Loki... or Atreus's Journey, even God Of War: Atreus's Journey... mainly to sell copies, not because he fits the GOW moniker... but for the next mainline title? It has to follow Kratos since he's not dead and Atreus ISN'T a God Of WAR.

[@masquerabe6692]

What if Skaadi was able to save her fathers soul in an object (like Fenrir’s) and was eventually able to store it in the marble

[@Bernix5000]

I was thinking the same thing

[@agentmorph5829]

Definitely a possibility

[@merikmalhads1676]

Someone beat me to it lolz

[@maverickhunter1820]

My thoughts exactly.

[@zacharycunningham7669]

Well, either that or it's Skaadi herself inside that marble, THAT could be a possibility as well.

[@MidChronicler]

Remember that we can't really trust the Jotnar shrines anymore. Just because it says Skadi killed Thiazi doesn't mean she actually did lol. Maybe the real story is that Skadi killed a random eagle on purpose and pretended she killed her father, all part of some kind of plot to confuse Odin, much like the fake dead bodies we found in Jotunheim. Even Mimir's info can be skewed, being an Aesir and all.

[@AryaSanchari]

I don’t know if those were fake bodies or not. That could have been where they lined themselves up or bunched together their bodies when they used the soul transfer spell(s).

[@ItsButterBean1020]

It could also be she killed him but his soul is in the marble

[@gustavosauro1882]

I think Mimir is a fairy

[@DANIELEKING]

​@@gustavosauro1882ey me too.

[@dubbacheezbugga5366]

I mean we don’t hear Odin seeing his death. For all we know, like Groa’s prophecy, Skadi helped her father to hide Jotunheim and returned mourning his fake death and falsified the story that was told to The Midgardians and by proxy, Mimir.

[@ragnarok9658]

Odin saw his death in jothinhim when he and tyr went to offer peace to the giants

[@dubbacheezbugga5366]

@@ragnarok9658 I was referring to Thiazi’s death

[@Paradox-es3bl]

I feel like Mimir would've been able to tell Skadi was lying... and Odin has dozens of Ravens, if not hundreds, in the GOW universe. I feel like we don't need to specifically be told what he sees. He's supposed to be pretty much all seeing and all knowing. I think we're just supposed to EXPECT that he was watching.

[@dubbacheezbugga5366]

@@Paradox-es3bl I mean it’s very possible that it’s an open secret among those two. Odin still having been harboring feelings to a degree and Mimir not wanting to rock the boat when it came to one of Asgard’s best huntswomen. Plus Mimir has been charmed to forget things before, “Baldur being invulnerable to all threats physical or magical” coming to mind. It’s very possible she used Jotunn magic to cause him to forget or smudge the details of the story.

[@jeiillson]

Hey Kuba if you didn’t already know, it’s kinda crazy but the giant marble that Atreus pulls after Thiazzi’s is actually Tyr’s mother Hróðr

[@K_ingh16]

Damn, nice catch

[@Sols698]

She may have killed her father but maybe in he's last moments skaddi may have whispered he's soul into a marble

[@KaptainKuba]

Yeah that could be a way to explain this mystery

[@godofyoutube5754]

I noticed that on my second playthrow but didn t think much of it i thought skadi somehow put her fathers soul in an object and then transferred it in to the marble later like what atreus did to fenrir s soul when he put it in his knife

[@neelgohel335]

Was going to comment the same but saw your comment.

[@ShatteredGlass916]

yep, maybe like Atreus's knife that used to have Fenrir's soul in it until it gets transfered to Garm, maybe Skadi's piercing arrow contains the souls of her father Thiazi. And she rushed it to Jotunheim to helped transfered his soul into a marble

[@bmg6229]

Maybe it's a part of the soul Some giants were killed by Thor, but some of their soul remains (considering the theory of Jormungander being either Hirimthur or Thamur) and many of the "battle" marbles are missing one of the 4 soul bits Which is why it's the "last resort" once in the marble, if they're destroyed you're gone

[@rosaline7549]

It's neither Hirimthur or thamur the soul inside the snake is jormungandr his name is written on the marble

[@TonyJaaFan1587]

Atreus literally says Jormungandr off of the marble before he took the soul and put it in the snake, that’s the giant, it’s not anyone else

[@whatchamacallit2100]

Something I just noticed on my 2nd playthrough. When you are in Ironwood and angraboda is leading you to the marbles, the grass that you walk through has this glowing yellow sparkly dust floating around it. I went back and watched the scene where they spread Fayes ashes...its the exact same glowing yellow sparkly dust...i dunno...just thought I would put that out there. Not sure if its been discussed yet but I found it interesting...

[@Paradox-es3bl]

Sure, but souls are blue in GOW, clearly. At least, mostly. Jormungandr's, Fenrir's, Odin's... so unless we just assume Faye's was super special, I'd argue that's probably something else.

[@Goldening]

Kuba still handing out great theories, keep it up Kap

[@Capt..]

Usually intros suck ass but this intro have to be the best goddam intro I’ve ever seen

[@WaelZ0]

Yesterday I finished the game again on the hardest difficulty and also found that weird but I thought that i was tired

[@bengsynthmusic]

Try the Berserker Gravestones. Lol

[@WaelZ0]

@@bengsynthmusic respectfully ez

[@bengsynthmusic]

@@WaelZ0 how

[@WaelZ0]

@@bengsynthmusic i got destroyed on give me no mercy so I basically memorized there combos and went in with fully upgraded survival armor with the og shield, used normal rage to get out of danger if i got caught

[@belolopez9833]

I never would have thought about this, thanks Kapo!!

[@XLORDXPAINX]

Leaving a comment for the algorithm. Great videos man I love your content. I’m a huge god of war fan myself. Been playing god of war for ages and this game really got me into actual Greek mythology. So interesting!

[@thedissappointments7273]

i do like the shape shifting line your drew that was pretty good!

[@whiteowlofficial]

There was a loki marble. I just caught it on this past play through. It really caught me off guard and I think it glowed

[@rikajougasaki3296]

Utgardr-Loki?

[@DhruvNair2011]

Hey Kaptain Kuba just wanted to say that I LOVE your videos and I hope you will make more awesome videos

[@KaptainKuba]

Thanks for the support ❤️ @and yes, I'm back to uploading again

[@youngguapo4006]

Great video bro

[@2geekygamers]

Here's a thought: since part of Odin's soul was inside Huginn, when Odin's soul was destroyed and possibly also the part that resided in Huginn, then he would be a soulless creature like Garm. What if Huginn mindlessly follows Atreus because he was the last thing Odin saw and because he is a soulless creature, he places Thaizi's soul inside Huginn. Because it seemed strange to me that Huginn survived Ragnarok, and they purposefully pointed that fact out. Perhaps this could be the reason as to why? Like I said, just a thought.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Cool to imagine a talking Crow riding with Atreus

[@ragnarok9658]

You got that from @Cookingwithkratos you should credit him man. He is very underrated. I have been telling everyone about his video

[@ragnarok9658]

@@ItsButterBean1020 yeah @Cookingwithkratos is the youtuber who proved odin is alive thru hugin

[@2geekygamers]

@ragnarok9658 Whether or not you believe me my friend, I have no idea who that is nor the video you're referring to. Is it so hard to believe that some people just have similar thoughts and theories? Appreciate the dedication and enthusiasm for your loyalty to this theorist, but I don't appreciate being accused that I've supposedly stolen a theory from someone else.

[@ragnarok9658]

@@2geekygamers i find it very very odd that you can think that odins soul is inside of hugun without seeing his video. There is noway anyone would think that unless u saw his video. Sorry but i refuse to believe otherwise. I just cant believe u thought of it without seeing all of the proof he provides for several reasons. The game shows loki placing odins soul inside the marble. The game shows sindri smashing the marble. And the games shows odins dead and gone. The only way anyone would ever think twice about odins soul being inside of anything (much less hugun of all things) is specifically after watching his video. There is no way in hellhiem u can convince me otherwise my friend. But ok

[@mangolito0065]

W kuba W life W video W everything

[@Noone-wp6vj]

Yea jon ford been slacking

[@Peter-pq2cw]

Kuba bots? We made it fr

[@luismontoya2138]

That intro is so damn dope

[@Laddie66]

Hi kuba is good to see that your back to doing theory’s although this doesn’t look like one lol😂😂❤

[@House_of_Green]

I was waiting on your last point from the beginning. It has to be someone else in that marble, I bet it’ll be a big plot for Atreus’s coming journey

[@luke-vu4cu]

There are different mythologies in which giants came from across the see and helped building up a new civilization. Could be a really nice link between different mythologies.

[@omarabdul2864]

Damn bro that intro mann holy 😳

[@B3N1TO]

I’m so happy I could watch your content again, cut myself off for Ragnarok. My bad

[@andray310]

I’m really hoping they touch 2 pantheons with the atreus game. Mayan and Egyptian. (With a quick stop for Excalibur b4)

[@christianscheffler4398]

That does make a lot of sense

[@rio9687]

“Bro the thumbnail 💀” Loki looks like he hasn’t seen sunlight in 20 years

[@jasondaniel7380]

I'm here and ready for theorizin kaptain!

[@lmiked84]

What intrigued me at first was, if they are whispered into the Marbles, how could they have gone away? Weren't they awaiting in the Marbles for the "Day Gods Grow Good"? As for Thiazi being in the Marbles, there's actually 2 very simple and plausible explanations, 1, when Skadi saw the bird was her father, she took out his marble and whispered his soul into it before it moved onto the light, or 2, maybe it is Skadi's soul inside her father's marble, she asked to be whispered into his marble so it wouldn't be empty.

[@soldiergigas14]

Here is what i imagined would happened. Skadi finds her father close to death and before thiazi dies, Skadi uses the soul spell to put her father's soul into the marble. Angroboda's relatives find the marble and entrust it to Angroboda and then to Loki.

[@BrandonMartinez-sx3cn]

Exactly what I was thinking instantly. Makes the most sense to me

[@YSBEYOND]

The gaints are *_Alive_* !

[@f1nger695]

No shit

[@robertlash3561]

Love the thumbnail of the video so funny

[@eddieabrahante4001]

Yeah this is a big Tim Foil Hat Theory energy. I didnt even think of this.

[@janwelcastro250]

Skaði is said to cling on Thiazi's body after the revelation that she just shot him fataly. And what pose would that do? The exact pose Loki did when he whispered Fenrir and Odin's soul out of their bodies. Maybe Skaði did the exact same thing.

[@moga-hunter2410]

My proposal for the rough plot for God of Mischief: Loki and Angrboda ride Fenrir to different pantheons lands looking for giants, while being followed by Athena who wants to try and turn him against Kratos. They visit Egypt and help a young Horus (if I spelled his name wrong sorry I can’t remember if I got it right) deal with his father’s death at Set’s hard and stop horus from going on a young Kratos esk rampage. In China they assist Sun Wokong with escorting the pillgram to the west. Loki learning more about transforming magic from the monkey king and the two of them becoming fast friends. Athena drags Loki and co to what remains of Greece to confront him with his father’s actions but Loki ends up talk no jutsu ing her into let the scars fade and be better than her past self. Alternatively, boss fight. Give Loki an actual melee weapon, maybe have thurid thorsdotor join the gang at some point. Give Loki a fox form for recon and or a bird form. BIG SPECTACLE FIGHT at least one fight against a colossal foe like early god of war games. I’m taking flying across the map like when thor hit Kratos, enemies, bigger than you can physically see. QuickTime events. The works.

[@bigboydancannon4325]

Don't quit your day job

[@kokushibo1014]

Maybe it is not Thiazi's soul in it but a random giant. But yeah it could be a mistake like a dev that was like "Me want marble to glow"

[@smitesh-issacpaiza5023]

Fenrir's soul was with atreus for quiet sometime might be before theyatze too his last breath Scotty did the spell without Odin noticing and took the soul into one of her arrows or somethin

[@ZarathisXIII]

What if the Marble says Thiazi as it was intended for him but contains the soul as someone else since like we've seen with Odin it doesn't necessarily have to have them in it.

[@macmainemusik5913]

I think the soul that was placed in the world serpent might be one of the sons of ivodi. In the first game when they go into belly of the beast. Mimir says the stomach fluid reminds him of alcohol. In Ragnarok Atreus and Angrboda go into a pit hole which is named after one of Ivoldis sons n Atreus says it smells like old water.

[@yoriichitsugikuni3743]

It could be that they find a new body for thiatzi and he could potentially help with his shapeshifting

[@My6119]

here's a theory: Can Kratos's beard block any weapon?

[@KaptainKuba]

I'm deep in research on that topic 😂

[@momeygetting5271]

The Goat Is Back🐐💯

[@jadap1789]

Awesome video

[@bigdino733]

Hi Kuba, I’ve thought of this interesting theory recently, so basically at the end of GoW3 the humans of Greece get the power of hope, now what if those humans went to Rome and started their new Roman pantheon, which could give an in-game explanation as to why the Greek and Roman pantheons are so similar. Obviously my theory isn’t that fleshed out but I thought maybe you could expand on it.

[@doudymac]

6:35 Brok: "What the F*** " 😂😂😂

[@ksyhan3h451]

i think you overthinked about this. true that the giants only thought of the marble as an escape due to their fear of odin finding them and started implementing it from there. but that doesnt mean that the method didnt exist prior to that point. simply put, the knowledge could have been common to all giants and she have saved his father's soul the same way Atreus did with Fenrir.

[@six8583]

i can see "The Demiurge" becoming some sort of inside joke sometime in the future

[@fallen634]

well, couldn't they have just taken his soul from the light of alfheim? Sindri has done it before so shouldn't it also be possible for the giants?

[@Sunset_Thanatos]

What if Thiazi's soul was put into the orb before skaði hunted him, and he became a soulless bird, died, and then the giants move to Jotunheim?

[@Nygassso]

That thumbnail is wild 😂😂😂😂

[@DeathRex88]

I naturally assumed it was Skadi in her fathers marble and would play a role in the end of the game with the other dead giants.

[@asadmatsumoto8911]

The fact the eden is mentioned says something to me

[@btzke]

what if þiazi‘s soul IS the soul in the marble, but someone extracted it from the light of álfheim to put into the marble. it could be possible for atreus to do the same for laufey and another blank marble (maybe even craft his own)

[@josealejandrosalzarmirabal4623]

I think I have a good idea of how the can explain the Thiazi marble. Simple, Mimir was wrong, the same way he was wrong about the giant wolfs and how Odin had him. Odin simply lied again regarding Skadi and her father's dead to make other believe how smart he was. Which mean that Skadi may have escaped and finds Atreus and he gives her back his father

[@ElOroDelTigre]

Ok, Occam's razor here. Maybe more than one Thiazis were around.

[@devonlennon7731]

Idk how I just noticed brok scream WTFFFF when atreus turned into a bear 😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonymelvin9738]

When Loki is in musphilim with Thor angarboda picks up dirties marble

[@josepreciado2479]

That shit finna be a piece of Odin’s or Tyr’s soul. I’m calling it !!!! And we know you can split your soul in the GOW Universe 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thespicyboys3252]

that thumbnail though

[@WaelZ0]

It could be one that he found in a mural

[@Laufeuy]

Bro never misses he’s after sms

[@cesare4926]

Great video as always Kuba. I think SM made a mistake with this marble but they can fix it in the next Atreus game and say it was planned all along 😂

[@emir6110]

They made more than one mistake

[@Gayhan-]

@@emir6110no

[@VEPOX-2th_acc]

In my opinion it could be his own doughter's soul,my theory is cuz she's bearing the guilt of killing her own father she could decided to put her own soul into the marble to take his fathers posision or bercouse of the guilt she put herself there to let her be in peace.

[@hasantrab]

i still dont know what was atreus looking at when he stood on the cliff at the end of 2018 and said “hey check this out” i think he was looking at the place where the marbles was hidden or possible ironwood?

[@DS-wl5pk]

I don’t think Skaadi was tricked. If she knows her father was a great shape shifter and taught her how to hunt all the animals, I’m sure the way he moved showed her very trained and keen eyes that this eagle was no ordinary one and further more, her father. They faked his death, tricking Odin just as he was tricked by Groa and all the either giants about Ragnarok. Mimir was even tricked about that. Hence why he knows the version of Thiazi’s death, to keep the lie going

[@bandawin18]

Completely unrelated, but you know that part of the game where you first play as Atreus and you go to find Freya? Along the way you see a deer for only a moment before it runs away, and when you go further you see a dead deer in the cave the other deer ran off to. So I have a mini theory(not really but more of a question I guess), who was the other deer? Just a deer? The ghost of the dead deer? Just a weird little thing I've been thinking about

[@KaptainKuba]

I'll check it out!

[@grafenbergs.9329]

@@KaptainKuba i thought it may have been Freya or an animal letting Freya know Atreus was coming

[@rikajougasaki3296]

If Thiazi's involved, maybe Skadi will be. Makes me wonder - some franchises have gone the 'Skadi and Scathach of Irish legend are related' path, and Atreus is going out there, think we're going to Ireland?

[@ItsButterBean1020]

That would be badass and I love the idea Atreus goes to Ireland

[@Maul-Sithman]

Ad draupnir to the intro please

[@KaptainKuba]

It's kinda difficult, the game is not modded yet. So I can't get cool shots like the one from 2018

[@Maul-Sithman]

@@KaptainKuba understandebale just do it eventually

[@RichEnglishVideos]

Hey Kaptain. When will you release your complete review video of the game?

[@Flipflopflopper]

What do you think of Odin being the one who sounded the horn in the first game disguised as tyr? Odin was tracking kratos and he was called a “shifty bastard” by mimir in the first game

[@markpula91]

What about the sword Ingrid? I loved her!❤

[@KatarinasGarage]

What if this is intentional and Thiazi actually did die. But before his last breath he was able to put his soul into the marble. Or hear me out.. Maybe it's not his entire soul. Is it possible that maybe it's a portion of his soul. Kind of like how brok was brought back? Just a theory.

[@MKDani911]

A man of war and man of care

[@ultravioletshadowDXttv]

i think it is Garm´s soul in the marbel

[@shawnheidingsfelder8179]

Thiazi could have been marbled, but Skaadi wasn't aware of it because she was off hunting or something. Odin then doubles down on the trick by 1) making her think the eagle was her father and 2) making her think she killed him. Odin could have been controlling the eagle the whole time like a puppet.

[@idanlewenhoff2295]

if we get a game with older Atreus destroying another pantheon by his own I'm all for it ahahah hope mimir will be there fricking love mimir

[@ioannis4441]

Santa monica is taking notes

[@gwave0308]

Hey kaptian kuban can u do a video on why thor talks to his hammer and your theory why.

[@eliminatorpk5658]

I have a theory that in kratos vs ares we go to a play where there is a blue space so is it possible that, that place is where neflihime and musplehime meet ( sorry for speling)

[@rosaline7549]

The important question is when will that damn spinoff comes out?

[@ahmedmaher7122]

maybe part of his soul you know the soul spilt into four souls that's why the ball is looking a bit old and ugly because it's a rock

[@TheRjseagles]

What about thor’s soul wasn’t he part giant? Where did that go I saw the blue stuff come off his hand when he died which might mean it went into the hammer since he talked to it or he granted Thrud the power to wield it…?

[@spongeman1512]

Cool intro tho

[@shivanshgarewal2833]

7:36 is it just me or does anyone else notice a giant like being among the people worshiping kratos who knows if he is thiazi?

[@imadog3926]

Well, if you remember Atreus puts a giant soul into a soulless Snake in Jotenhiem. The snake becomes The World Serpent, which is thrown back in time at Ragnarok.

[@MohammedHussain-qj3lx]

Maybe thiazi can relate to kratos because They were both tricked into killing a loved one so he would be a good little story line on the side

[@TonyJaaFan1587]

Thiazi didn’t kill his daughter it was the other way around, did you even watch the video

[@kgomotsonyathi937]

Imagine Santa Monica makes a fighting game with all the gods

[@mustardsauce5201]

i can read runes now... im so cool

[@Trackrace29582]

Maybe just maybe, anthor giant has the same name

[@look58753]

and why there is loki marbel?

[@theneelay]

Thiadzi is might be the next Mimir.

[@jeremylamar3022]

I think that his soul made its way there

[@JacoKyle]

Thiazi probably was the first successful attempt to be used on a marble given the situation was desperate and not out of Fear. She saved her father , who now needs a body.

[@GibberrishGibbson]

Santa Monica please get this man to Writers room

[@adamsin9260]

Ahhh, the dryness of this channel starts to change to a tropical rainforest. Nice!

[@carlofaustino9373]

Hey Kaptain, are there any backstory on draupnir spear?? It is a close duplicate of the arms of sparta from God of War: Ghost of Sparta. Even the runic attack is the same with the L + hold square.

[@KaptainKuba]

Eric confirmed it was inspired by the arms of Sparta but theres no actual lore connection

[@ItsButterBean1020]

The inspiration could be due to Kratos’ blood, taking something from his memories and past

[@neoshinsei4073]

Angrboda told Atreus that shapeshifting was a god power and not a giant thing. So It's kinda weird that another giant had this power...

[@ragnarok9658]

Exactly. Thats why i believe loki is the son of odin.

[@leozero409]

@@ragnarok9658 your wrong giant magic is versatile remember angrboda said that the vanir learned magic from the giants then did they own experiments Atreus is a god/giant hybrid so his godhood is the conduit to his magic as opposed to having it learned he can learn new magic from being a giant and of the Norse realm but he also has a set of powers inherited directly from his godhood

[@suhaybkalil221]

Soo I have been thinking of the tattoos on angraboda and hildisvini, they are very similar, I wonder if they are related, is hildisvini a part giant? Is he secretly angraboda’s father? I am pretty sure captain kuba can go on and on with this