note, item magnet doesn't actually increase the chance of muk holding an item, it only increases the chance of getting an item after the battle, it's main use is pickup farming
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the correction!
@keving97707 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage imo you should pin this and/or mention it in the description, since you directly promote the idea and even say it helped, some people will be misinformed.
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
good idea ill do that now
@beegborg33033 ай бұрын
Love to see a nice constructive criticism/correction an the humble accountability as a response, it's rare these days lol Loved the video btw ty for helping the community just subbed
@patrouski7 ай бұрын
Dude this is seriously such a unique, creative and well put together video. I love EVERYTHING about this. Cabbage killin it as per usual!!!
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Yo thanks so much man!
@dexterjude6693 ай бұрын
I bought his dusknoir lol. If u want it I’ll sell it to you for 570k
@AngryGorillaAu7 ай бұрын
Was great working with Cabbage on this, and now makes one of the lesser accessible items more available to everyone,
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Great working with you too brother!
@vtubersubs38037 ай бұрын
The most shocking thing to me about this is that there are Muks in the Celadon water supply
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Haha weird right?
@appydurp7 ай бұрын
Fishing boy here, congrats on the amazing content!! And props to AngryGorilla as well, I always enjoy his data breakdown on the forums :)
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Aye TFB #1
@Zap_096 ай бұрын
Here is better tip. Get a 37 level frisk mon with hypnosis and give it smoke ball. Then get some dive ball from Mossdeep City. If frisk activates use hypnosis on the Muk. Now use a Dive ball, it has 89% chance of catching the Muk. Now if you are worried of Muk using fling, a level 38 Muk doesn’t have fling.
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
Great idea! Thanks for the comment!
@Fernanyo2 ай бұрын
But you get exp that way. It makes me go to lv 38
@dainedaichoАй бұрын
@@Fernanyo yeah thats what i thought
@DomsPokeMMO-tf4tj5 ай бұрын
Came back to this video to learn the method and try it for myself. One thing to note is that its probably better to put the evs into HP instead of Special Defense because Dusknoir already has high base special defense but extreamly low base HP
@YoungCabbage4 ай бұрын
Awesome insight thanks doms!
@JinxedBoon7 ай бұрын
Great, well thought out video! And congrats on 2k subs! Keep up the awesome content
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@bayja907 ай бұрын
Tried it. Spent around 100k for decent Duskull and TMs. Spent over 50k for repels and got 1 orb and 2 nuggets in an hour. It takes 2-3 repels to encounter Muk, and 10-15 Muks to get a nugget. Around 25 Muks to get a Toxic orb. Not a money making method, unless u just want to get toxic orb.
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Yup! I made sure to not claim that it was a money making method and more a method to farm orbs for personal use quicker!
@nanek82003 ай бұрын
"""Around""" 25 muks for an orb lol, 500 Muks in and still havent got any single one
@marshallweishuai-actorАй бұрын
I must of been lucky then, I used a frisk dusclops with just theif and got a toxic orb after my 5th encounter
@DeadFinale7 ай бұрын
Honestly AWESOME strat you guys figured out! True pioneers.
@jaunks7 ай бұрын
great video! i really like the overlay with you and gorilla it looks nice
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thanks bro!
@aphrodiziac7 ай бұрын
Tried this method out. Going from first toxic orb to my second one cost me more in repels that the profit selling one so I probably got real unlucky with the spawn rate. However the repel ran out once and I got my first legendary bird while doing this so can't complain lol. Great content again keep it up!
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
YOO thats awesome to hear! im sure the legendary encounter startled you huh?
@Acerone2797 ай бұрын
I tried this & it worked well. Nice video
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Glad it worked for ya
@CallMeSage13877 ай бұрын
nice video man!! 🎉
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@D212-t7b7 ай бұрын
Nice video like always, congrast old vegetables
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thanks C121
@TheClosedBoxTTV7 ай бұрын
Was checking it with my own Dusknoir and only 60 Speed is needed to outspeed the fastest Muk (Lv 38 with 31 IV in Speed and a +Speed nature). Ghost Pokemon can always escape encounters (unless locked by a move or ability). Latest 4 moves learned by level are known by the Pokemon, in this case a Lv 38 Muk will know Sludge Wave, Screech, Sludge Bomb and Toxic. (Will have to test and check this). Going to keep doing it for a good while since I'm also hunting Moltres :P
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I had a viewer get moltres with this method already so its possible!
@TheClosedBoxTTV7 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage moltres still evades me 😔
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Rip man same
@DomsPokeMMO-tf4tj7 ай бұрын
awesome content!
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@halfxue7 ай бұрын
great guide... now i can picture that pond swarmed with lots of players
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Haha it’ll be funny to see
@RoyRogersNews7 ай бұрын
Nice job on the research Cabbage. When I cover anything related to Frisk, then your video can be featured.
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
@robbanihabibie15917 ай бұрын
Amazing works man
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@flappinshad69737 ай бұрын
Another W video - ty man!
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
No, thank YOU
@vtubersubs38037 ай бұрын
This is not a viable method to make money. Using a lv37 Dusknoir as suggested in the video gets you a single Muk on average every 5 max repels. It's rare for them to be holding anything and they can also hold nuggets so the odds are pretty tiny. You might still make a profit but it's nowhere remotely close to being worth your time compared to other farming methods.
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Nowhere in the video does this claim to be a money making method. This is simply a method to farm toxic orbs for personal use quicker! Sorry for the confusion!
@dexterjude6693 ай бұрын
Well I misunderstood the video, this is more of a toxic orb faming method for someone that needs a toxic orb and not a money making method. It could be but depends on RNG. Sorry Youngcabbage for the misunderstanding and thanks for your gift in the mail!
@JackFroster7 ай бұрын
So how does the money per hour stack up vs other typical money making strats? And how much do Item Magnet charms impact the results? Is this more of a 'i want to shiny hunt Muk and also make money while I do it' sort of strat? Regardless this was another very well put together video
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
So this isnt a money making method. its more so a way you can farm toxic orbs for personal use faster. I appreciate the compliment!
@PedroHenrique-vs3mf7 ай бұрын
Yeaiii Ty goat
@kylewinborn6 ай бұрын
Are we assuming water encounters are the same rate as inside the power plant? Just bc the animation is faster doesn't mean it accomplishes more in little time
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
The water in Celedon city has a higher encounter chance. Moving faster means stepping on more tiles faster which means more encounters. Hope that makes sense
@bombermax90244 ай бұрын
Do Duknoir's IV's matter? For example if I got one with low or even 0 speed Iv's will I still be able to outspeed the Muk?
@YoungCabbage4 ай бұрын
Yes you should be fine
@BryanExplainsItAll77 ай бұрын
is it have to be a level 37 dusknoir or is it level 37 or higher dusknoir? reson being is i have a level 85 dusknoir with frisk and theif i'm using for farming amulet coin. i tried the pokemon mansion but got nothing (i ether had sluge or nugget). can i use a weavile with pickpoket? i have a level 88 weavile with pickpoket and move thief?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
You need a level 37 for the repel trick to work. It needs to be lower than 38 (muks level) but higher than the other spawns. Pickpocket won’t work because you need to get hit my a physical move. Muk only has special attacks
@AlienX5117 ай бұрын
Put lv37 fainted Pokémon in slot one
@PVPTawa7 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, item magnet charms only applies to pickup items not held items, did this change?
@appydurp7 ай бұрын
Yes, that is correct, Item Magnet Charm only boosts the chance to find an item after battles. Both Pickup and regular Trainer Pickup are affected, and I assume Elemental Orbs/Honey Gather are also there :)
@JinxedBoon7 ай бұрын
@@appydurp so an item charm wont actually help in this case then?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Apparently not. I was given misinformation and apologize for the misleading advice in this case. Thanks for the correction guys!
@danielsemmelrock78087 ай бұрын
I still don't get what's the problem with the Weezing strategy. 252 EV Weezing can easily outspeed/flee from wild Muk, or am I missing something?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
The problem is the amount of time you waste hitting every single muk. Where this strat is better is you have frisk so you only attack the muks with items saving you time
@TheVelvetLlamaGames7 ай бұрын
wouldnt it be the same results using a weezing with thief compared to a duskno at the same location in celadon? Overall seems the same "Strat" but just at celadon and not the mansion
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
As explained in the video, leading with frisk makes it more efficient than weezing. Also, your character moves faster on the water than they do running in the mansion. Hope this helps
@TheVelvetLlamaGames7 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage i guess from seeing the frisk proc from the beginning. But having to imprison then skill swap, then finally trick to get an item doesnt seem as efficient as just clicking thief and then run away. Even at the celadon water spot.
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
@@TheVelvetLlamaGames it is much more efficient for a few reasons. 1. You don’t get reactive gas ability activation at the beginning of every battle. 2. You only imprison trick the muks with items (Muks rarely hold items) so you aren’t just attacking every muk you see. 3. Because you don’t attack every muk your dusknoir lives longer than a weezing would getting hit every single turn.
@TheVelvetLlamaGames7 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage I'll have to give it a go and see. It makes sense to a degree though
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
@@TheVelvetLlamaGames id love to hear your thoughts! Thanks for challenging the method! I would much rather have that then people just agreeing and moving on
@HiImRainer7 ай бұрын
If you Repel trick for the Muks, you cannot find the Legendary Birds in the process (they specified that Repel tricking won't work for them). Other than that, nice guide 👍
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
I was told that because the muk is still an encounter, the legendary birds can replace that due to it being outdoors. They are referring to repel tricking FOR the legendary birds. That would be bringing a level 35 pokemon to route 1 where you will get no encounters. The birds need an encounter to replace so this method would still allow you to find them. I hope that makes sense! thanks for the comment!
@BrownBearStudio-xu2lw7 ай бұрын
Nice with this i can make some money to finish building my gym rerun team
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Yessir!
@halfxue7 ай бұрын
to check, imprison, skill swap, trick, and fling are all TM moves? or it can learn naturally?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Tm moves’
@halfxue7 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage got it, thanks!
@00_Toji_006 ай бұрын
This is a good trick but. What abt the dusknoir lvl upp??
@SukritMandal6 ай бұрын
What exactly did u do with repel? i couldn't understand What did you mean by repel trick
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
If you google repel trick PokeMMO you will find a guide that breaks it down very simple!
@shuvajitbasak66807 ай бұрын
I can't tutor the skill swap, in kanto tutor says not possible in hoenn the move isn't available in the list what do i do
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Buy the TM from the massive pokemarts in any region, or the GTL! Hope this helped
@shuvajitbasak66807 ай бұрын
Okay... Thanks for the suggestion, i got the moveset. But only slowpoke is spawning in the location you've mentioned
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
@@shuvajitbasak6680 make sure you are using the repel trick mentioned early in the vide
@shuvajitbasak66807 ай бұрын
Okay, i just understood why I'd need a repel, but the problem is i bought a lvl 30 duskull, and while eve training it turned to lvl 53, so any advice on this matter? Or should i just go through all the random encounters?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
I would make a new duskull and get it to lv 37. thats the most efficient way explained in the video
@aaronpineda55967 ай бұрын
Great video, but I'm not sure if you're able to get the legendary birds since you're repel tricking
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
As long as you are getting encounters in the outdoors, the legendary birds have a chance of replacing that encounter
@aaronpineda55967 ай бұрын
@YoungCabbage Ok cool! Thanks for clarifying 😁
@AzureCrook7 ай бұрын
Hear me out, use a frisk pokemon with false swipe and just throw a ball at the muks with the held item 😁✌️ or skip false swipe entirely with timer balls, I just like to play it safe and QUICK
@IA_Dom13 күн бұрын
I'm a new player and have no idea how to create this Dusknoir xD
@xhev-vg1qp4 ай бұрын
More info..Bannette can do it to and its way cheaper
@YoungCabbage4 ай бұрын
Awesome tip!
@BrownBearStudio-xu2lw7 ай бұрын
Getting 1 torb every hour is nice
@Hipsterjes7 ай бұрын
Cabbage W as per usual
@nayoxd7 ай бұрын
ty for this
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Anytime!
@arthurperi3 ай бұрын
1 toxic orb each 20-25 minutes
@xxxxKEROxxxx7 ай бұрын
This works great man. Only problem for me is that I’ve used 68 Super Repels, 70 Repels and 16 Max Repels and only have found 1x Toxic Orb. I’ll try using an Item Magnet Charm tonight and see if it makes a difference. My luck is bad in this game though…
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
That is a bit unlucky. one thing ill say is it turns out i was misinformed about the item magnet charm and that it only works with pickup. I apologize for the mix up. Best of luck finding them!
@SukritMandal7 ай бұрын
Bro are all the muk guarented to have atleast one of these items???
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Nope! Just like other Pokémon muk has a chance to be holding an item. That’s why frisk is important!
@keanomugiwara22887 ай бұрын
Always wanted to farm Torbs but flame orbs seemed easier
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Flame orbs are for sure easier but it’s fun to switch it up you know?
@Khultzyfy7 ай бұрын
Love you
@kylewinborn6 ай бұрын
When you say this method is to "farm orbs for personal use quicker" what does that mean!!? Is it not faster to make some money and buy it off GTL
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
It’s mainly meant as a way to farm the item quicker. That’s all. There will always be the “faster more efficient” method someone comes up with however this was just a project we worked on to make the item more accessible. Let me know if you have any other questions
@dragonjim937 ай бұрын
Not to play the smart guy.I am fairly new to the game so why not use a mold breaker with thief like Rampardos/Pinsir?
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Rampardos is one I tested and is a good idea. The only problem is not many muks hold items so you’d be wasting time attacking muks that don’t have items. With frisk, you save that time by only attacking the ones with items. Hope this helps!
@Jimmyvdpost5 ай бұрын
Hey dude. Just a thing I noticed when going through your channel. The sudden switch to podcast only might really hurt your channel. could be better to post the episodes inbetween your normal content?
@YoungCabbage4 ай бұрын
That’s the plan! Life has just been super busy but I plan on uploading weekly videos again soon!
@YoungCabbage4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the advice!
@nanek82003 ай бұрын
Total waste of money and ill explain why after 6 HOURS of testing it WITHOUT GETTING ANY TOXIC ORB: frisk banette is less cheaper, Muk doesnt even have fling so fling+imprison is useless, the cost of the repels is GIGANTIC bc you’ll most of the times wait 3-4 WHOLE repels before encountering a single Muk, and even if the Frisk found an item it is 99% of the time a freaking black sludge or a troll nugget, I absolutely not recommand this method, just buy one from the CEG : it is ~60-70k and you’ll not waste any absurd amount of money and time the ONE factor that changes it all : if you’re INSANELY lucky.
@repposh127 ай бұрын
Good method and nice video but its not quite new, ive been doing it for years just with banette
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Awesome! I wasn’t able to find any guides on any other strategy then the weezing but that’s really cool you figured it out yourself!
@repposh127 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage haha thanks im just a nerd when it comes to optimizations ^^
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
Being a nerd is the best thing you can be!
@kylewinborn6 ай бұрын
This strat is broken in that it doesn't work at all
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
It’s worked for me and countless others. I’d be happy to help you troubleshoot it!
@kylewinborn6 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage forgive me I've just spent so much on repels and I see the Orb sells for $70k. Wish I had just done that. I guess it was my mistake thinking this would save money
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
Its all good man! I tried to make sure it wasnt advertised a big money making method. Moreso just a way to farm the item if people wanted.
@kylewinborn6 ай бұрын
@@YoungCabbage why would someone want that! 😂😭
@YoungCabbage6 ай бұрын
To each their own man! Again I apologize if you were disappointed with the method. I appreciate your feedback.
@Nightomare7 ай бұрын
-300k 9 BlackSludge 2 Nuggets in 4h and half🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
@YoungCabbage7 ай бұрын
that is rough man.... Im sorry about that! I had a teammate get 3 in an hour... rng sucks sometimes