This One SURPRISED Me! Blackview MP80 Mini PC Review

[@vickslab4608]

almost bought a N100, thanks for this, now getting an N97! Looking forward to emulate up to PS2 and og xbox.

[@AD34534]

N97: 24CU at 1.2GHz N100: 24CU at 750MHz

[@dave_r]

Hey, nice to see this review; I've been curious as all hell about it. For $180 it's hard to complain but even though I'm pretty comfortable working inside mini's (NUC's and Beelinks) this one sure looks like it makes it difficult. I'd also pay a bit more for a slightly larger box that would enable a 2280 drive. Still, fair review and I can see why people would like it.

[@Chris.Brisson]

Exactly my thoughts as well. It is imperative to be able easily service the fan to remove dust.

[@ad_fletch]

TBF the fan looks easier to access than the SSD & wifi module....

[@TheDaNuker]

You are right, this level of budget CPU+iGPU performance feels like what the N100 originally should have been.

[@MrPir84free]

When Intel names CPU's, they apparently have no sense of common sense in naming; just a confusing lot of names like each was pulled out of a hat. Consumer : What's faster ? 6005, N95, N100, N97, N305, etc, etc. Intel: WDGAF what we name things.

[@roqeyt3566]

Funny thing, they just launched a campaign to slander AMD's horrid naming scheme, in particular the ryzen 5 mendocino for being zen 2 based

[@Smittron]

These products were probably developed by different Intel departments. 😀

[@Robtech]

N97 came out of left field. Maybe it wasn't planned originally. At least, I'd like to believe that to keep my sanity.

[@roqeyt3566]

@@Robtech Im surprised they didn't just call it an n105 It's just an n100 with higher clocks right, given that they just use better yields to achieve that you'd expect them to keep the naming in line

[@Robtech]

Yep, that would have worked fine.

[@arkan_3h]

hope more mini's with n97 come out to market soon, especially with better upgrade option.

[@Robtech]

Yeah, this chip is great for the ultra budget end.

[@nadtz]

I'd have been more interested if they charged a bit more for a slightly larger system with 2.5gb Lan and a 2280 m.2. I can see that this would be good for some people though, especially at $180.

[@binweng4937]

league gaming on the n100 is around 65-75 fps medium settings. This n97 can go 100 on high? that's very surprising!

[@TrusteftTech]

For under 200 yes. Not bad. Thanks for sharing.

[@Terrance5]

I found that the HDMI ports, at least on the N95 flavor of the MP80, are NOT HDMI 2.0; while it can do 4K60, it must use 4:2:0 chroma subsampling. Using RGB mode, I couldn't even use my WQHD monitor at 60Hz; 3440 x 1440 is limited to 50Hz, which is coincidentally the limit of HDMI 1.4 spec!

[@Robtech]

Don't have it anymore to check unfortunately. I do remember displaying 4K, but didn't check further. I'll have to add it to my review process.

[@knoten8306]

Super ! Danke! ich kann dank deiner Anleitung hier auf Steam sogar Assetto Corsa, Dirt-Rally, Automobilista usw. mit meinen Fanatec Lenkrad spielen ohne viel Strom zu verbrauchen. Leise , schnell , klein und für das was er kann wirklich günstig. Bei Joom im Moment für 172 Euro zu haben. Also ich bin begeistert.

[@touhami_dz6458]

thank you for this amazing content rly appreciate it i wish u added some video playback tests (high bitrate 4k) and 4k60fps youtube (pref high bitrate too)

[@Chris.Brisson]

Intel N97 system-on-chip has 9 lanes of PCIe 3 for board designers to allocate, including support for dual 2.5 GbE and USB 3.2 Gen 2. It is unfortunate that Blackview's offering does not max out the N97's potential, but the $180 price is appealing for those who would cash in their pop bottles to buy a mini PC with somewhat improved graphics. Look to ASRock Industrial's iBox-N97 for a DDR4 fanless alternative.

[@ReneB099]

Impressive little number, I enjoyed the review.

[@MDunaev]

Good job, mate, thanks! Keep it up!

[@neasmolej6609]

Great review!

[@bulldogboy100]

The difficult nature of getting to the internals would turn me off this mini PC

[@majjang119]

I purchased this Mini PC, and everything seems to be running smoothly, except for the Wi-Fi speed, which is very slow at around 10 Mbps, while my phone gets up to 100 Mbps. I'm not sure if this is a fault with the PC or if this is to be expected with this product. Is there a way to improve the Wi-Fi speed?

[@cirozorro]

I mistakenly thought I would prefer a N100 as it would be better binned but this is patently false based on your review, it appears they traded off too much GPU performance for CPU performance on this part. The N100 and N97 are identical silicon(4 core CPU with 24EU GPU Alder lake), only difference is base and turbo clocks based on the designed power limits. n97 listed as a 12W part, N100 as a 6W. But in these devices they are given the same thermal headroom... The only conclusion I can draw is the base/turbo multipliers are very significant and crippling the N100. What we really need is a N series with an unlocked multiplier on both GPU and CPU to see how capable this chip is. The N100 would perform similarly if it wasn't being artificial handicapped(Less than half the GPU and CPU base clock as well as 30% less GPU turbo clock).

[@Robtech]

Definitely didn't expect such a large leap in GPU performance.

[@TheCrystalJules]

Any chance you've gotten the new version of the GMKtec G5 with the N97? It's on sale with a coupon for $150 on Amazon and I am a little curious how much higher the power draw (USB-C power jack) is/if the performance is about the same as the MP80. I guess it doesn't really matter because I already ordered it 😅 but I'm sure it fits in with what you review and your other subscribers will like it, but I also acknowledge you might already have it and are in the review/editing process!

[@Robtech]

I believe the G5 is on the way. Looking forward to it.

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

It's exactly the same as the N100 with a slightly boosted CPU clock and more sensible boost to the iGPU.

[@iokwong1871]

One thing to be aware is that the N200 is running with seemingly DDR4(3200). Where it should have paired with fastest DRR5 possible. With 32 Execution Unit. It may be on part of the N305. The N100 and N97 have 24EU.

[@Robtech]

Waiting for an actively cooled N200 with DDR5 to finally see where it sits in the product stack

[@iokwong1871]

@@Robtech To be honest, I really don't expected much about being active cooling. It may be slightly better. But the N200 is a 6W CPU. (N97 is 10-12W) and I really think it is bottlenecked by the RAM. Some soldiered RAM at the 7000Mhz range would probably give you the best performance out of that CPU. But in any case, price is the key factor that doesn't make any sense. At nearly $200 just for the CPU (N200). I can get a much, much better system for maybe $50 more. Given that all of those will be active cooled anyway.

[@3dhYT]

I'm impressed.

[@AnshGulati]

@Robtech Have you deleted the Intel NUC11E review video? I can't find it for some reason.

[@Robtech]

I unpublished it as it wasn't getting any views and wouldn't recommend it over 12th gen, but here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5bXfGyrpLilkM0

[@AnshGulati]

@@Robtech Thanks. The only low-powered mini PCs that are locally available to me are the Asus PN41 and the Intel NUC11E.

[@DIYtechie]

…BUT you can’t have everything. Or can you? No, you can’t. 😂😂😂

[@EffectualPoet]

Soldered RAM? Cables coming out 3 sides.

[@MasterPandaBearChannel]

But in my local online store here in my country its N95

[@wiadroman]

I am miring the tshirt!

[@PulseNad]

should I change that of the mp80 from 15w to 30w?

[@Necrofem]

you made me laugh 😄 ty

[@0x-001]

For someone new to home servers/labs and keen on learning about cloud technology, Docker, and containers while running 1-3 VMs, what type of mini PC would you recommend?. I'm not aiming for gaming or Plex usage, just exploring and experimenting with these technologies. Any recommendations?

[@Robtech]

For home servers multiple cores are important to handle the concurrent workloads thrown at them. You could start with something like the Ryzen 5500U or 5560U which is 6 cores 12 threads and the best bang for buck at the moment. The Beelink SER5 is one of my favourites with this CPU. You might be able to find a 5700U or 5700H for not much more with will add and extra two cores and four threads.

[@nadtz]

If you are in the US the SER5 5500U can be found for around $300 and the 5700U for around $350. I have a 5500U that I tested with proxmox and my only complaint was the SSD it came with, it was pretty slow so I replaced it with something faster. Other than that pretty capable especially given how little power it uses.

[@0x-001]

i bought a TRIGKEY Mini PC Ryzen 7 5800H 16gb and 500gb ssd 359,20$@@nadtz

[@reidlou29]

What would you say emulation wise it could handle? Up till gamecube? Ps2?

[@Robtech]

Gamecube/Wii and PS2. Mostly 720P.

[@Urosaurus]

Excellent - does it seem snappier in Windows 11 than the N100?

[@Robtech]

I didn't notice an improvement. It's pretty much the same CPU wise to the N100. Needs more single core performance to really start being noticeable in Windows.

[@Urosaurus]

Thank you

[@thekid9394]

this or gmktec g5?

[@Robtech]

This unless you want the smaller size.

[@Fartman71]

Would it be possible to get some tests of Forza Horizon 5 and Balder's Gate? It would be much appreciated.

[@Robtech]

The integrated graphics in these are plenty weak for modern titles, so I don't usually test them. But I put Forza Horizon 5 to the test since I have it and at 720P low it was hitting a 24fps average, which is unplayable.

[@gtgboys359]

What are the n series in order? Im actually confused

[@Robtech]

Performance wise? Should be N95 < N100 < N200 < N97 < N300 < N305. That's what I see from the results so far if I could get my hands on a properly cooled N200.

[@gtgboys359]

@@Robtech which would you suggest to buy to run GTA v or fortnite for a short term until I can get my PC fixed (performance and fps doesn't really matter thnk you

[@Robtech]

Fortnite needs a lot of GPU power that these don't have. Looking at a Ryzen 5500U mini PC as the lowest/cheapest option. Otherwise if you really don't mind performance, I'd go with the N97

[@GeordiLaForgery]

So they couldn't even be bothered to name it properly, shows how much intel cares thesedays.. Nice mini pc tho.

[@PCartCast]

The N97 aren't consumer CPU's, they meant for embeded systems, that's why they have that naming. Its actually a surprise to see one in a mini PC.

[@franklyngrant3989]

Cable HDMI to VGA..and nothing .

[@Robtech]

Plenty of HDMI to VGA cables don't work properly

[@dazamad]

I just bought this. Unfortunately it doesn't run monster hunter world very well. Such an old game. Happy with 30fps but i get like 9fps 😮. It seems to play gta 5 fine. So a disappointment so far. I try other games

[@Robtech]

If you're planning to game on a mini, you'd be better off spending a bit more and getting something with a 5500U which is miles ahead in the graphics department. This is ultra budget.

[@krzys46kw]

mp60 is better u can add easly ssd 😆

[@Robtech]

MP60 has the Intel N5095 which is a generation behind and not worth buying.