This problem is much deeper

[@patriciafarran9742]

Something as simple as asking your horse to stand and wait on you is really important. Bob was showing impatience when you didn’t immediately get in the saddle after he positioned himself at the mounting block. By the end of this video, he stood still. You’re teaching us to stop being in a hurry all the time. This is a skill we all need to learn; having to do with everything in life. Thank you . 😊

[@psalm2764]

Patience must be learned.

[@traceybumpus1007]

Since I started following you and using your methods I have learned to be a leader with my horse stopped treating her like a dog she has gained more respect for me as the leader she is much more willing and is able to learn a lot more. She gets good feed and hay some warm snacks when cold a warm blanket a clean stall a lot of grazing clean water salt block and time with stablemates so when I ask her to work I am not afraid to expect some hard work for a reasonable amount of time as she is treated well its a fair exchange and her job.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

That is all perfect. You are my new star student!!!

[@JohnAmidon-c6r]

I see training as transactional; I provide a pretty nice life for the horse, it's reasonable for me to expect the horse to act professionally. I'm always amazed at the number of owners who seem to feel that they don't expect the horse (or dog) to simply behave. And yes, horses can certainly sense this! Well done!

[@juliehambrook4006]

All herd and pack animals crave a leader. It is in the more dominant ones to challenge the leader. It’s your job to be up to the challenge using methods they understand. That’s why treating them as your children doesn’t work.

[@1ccTooTall]

I have always been uncomfortable with people going through certifications as a XX trainer, with so much focus on a particular methodology. What really matters is the human leadership, watching for subtle “tellls” that a horse is or isn’t responding, combined with having MANY tools to suit the personality and learning style of a particular horse. There’s no magic in methods. That’s why I like watching your videos. I pick up new tools for my toolbox, and see behaviors from a fresh perspective.

[@cherylmetzler843]

Love the parallels you share between horses and little kids! Your analogies make the point crystal clear because we have all had the kid who acts up when you’re on the phone and goes just a fraction farther each time…right up to the tipping point!

[@katherinekreuchauf9148]

Pain, lack of training or disrespect of your leadership. Thanks for boiling it down and showing how one quick effective correction made a huge change in Bob’s behavior.

[@donnac.1609]

So much depends on every horse owner/rider taking the time to really know their horse. Horse savvy comes to mind! I always enjoyed grooming my horses; it helped me to keep an eye on their overall condition and how they were doing! Those basics can help a lot.....behavior vs condition issues or ailments can be difficult for some folks but "knowing" your horses is so important. Like you and Bob! He was pushing the boundaries, but no offense taken when you gave him a good tap! He knew!!

[@lesliemorris3914]

I learned a lot about my horses by grooming them. Each one of them has different little things about them. One of the best horses I had was out of the Lena bloodline. She had the best disposition and learned things very easy. I had to tell people not to hand feed any of my horses. I've learned that it can cause a lot of unwanted issues. If I'm the only person hand feeding my horses, they have not shown any problems so far.

[@catherinedemick1103]

Your comment about having a horse work through some exercise discomfort made me remember something a friend of mine in the distance world said to me the first time I did a 3 day 100 mile ride with my best, but sometines challenging arab/app distance horse. She said a 100 miles will make them find Jesus lol. It did !!!

[@DonnaVarno]

Love it 😅

[@catherinedemick1103]

I will point out though, he was more than in condition for 100 miles, but after the 1st 40 mile day, the 2nd day he said, seriously? As did I when i got out of bed at 4 am. lol!

[@lydiagould3090]

Thankyou for making some very important points here. Many a time I've tried to fix a problem by addressing the symptom, without a change in the horses attitude. I've also followed some of the training systems you mention, so understand what you mean about those. Over here a lot of people have problems of this kind ( horse not standing to be mounted/ barging through a gate/ not standing still to be tacked up etc) . Some of it is just laziness, because they won't take the time to train their horse properly. (I'm not being mean, it's a fact)

[@swysocki3920]

Wow. Never thought I'd see Bob being a little bit of a stinker. Thank you for showing us what to do and explaining everything along the way.

[@DonnaVarno]

Great advice. Having a willing and obedient horse is so valuable. Thank you for the video.

[@ridinghorses-ri6zu]

Thank you for this video very helpful very needed. My geldings not standing to be mounted is totally disrespect. Saddle fits was checked an chiro was out he's good. He tends to be one who consistently testing the limits give him an inch he takes a mile. Bob is looking fantastic!❤

[@judyhartford5019]

I have learned so much from your videos on teaching respect and my horse is so much better because I’ve gently corrected him when he moved into my space. Now is happily coming when invited. Thanks very much.

[@lspthrattan]

Good advice. Small misbehaviors can balloon into big ones if not dealt with immediately. Bob is a good example of how training never actually stops. It's ongoing for the life of the horse.

[@saspinks3001]

The first 5 minutes of your video are gold!

[@CarolynBerry-vn8gf]

You were describing my mare to the T. I have been watching your videos and today I lunged her and turned her around every three or four times around. Then we walked to the mounting block. She turned her hip. So I walked her around and tried again. She turned her hip again. So we walked around again. This time she stood perfectly still. I didn’t get on today I just walked around and tried mounting again about seven or eight times. Every time she stop still so I brushed her gave her a treat in her feed box and stopped for today. I just want to thank you for your videos.

[@Soundvermont]

Thank you being 64 with ankle and foot disabilities I really need to work on this more with my horse because I have to use the mounting block. So if I see him moving I will put your exercise into action.

[@peterneilsen6249]

Good morning guys. Well exsplained Tim. Thank you for video.🎄🥰

[@fallbrkgrl]

Good morning, from your faithful non horse person! I've gotten behind on videos, and am trying to catch up now. I adopted a 5 year old GSD from the Yuma shelter a month and a half ago. She's extremely fearful and anxious, needless to say I have been distracted lately with trying to find advice on how to help a dog like this. I've never met a dog that won't play, or engage, so this is all new to me. Anyway...Always good to see Bob, even if he's becoming a bit sassy. Thank you Tim! ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐕🐎

[@bitbybitfarmseast3085]

You are a kind gifted trainer. I am lazier than you. I stay on the block and make them move their feet ......back and forth.....around until the horse lines up and stands still.

[@kellylee5235]

Watching you work with horses the correct way makes me realize why I have struggled with horses! I was taught so many mechanical ways of training, grateful I have found you.

[@thedirtprincess3293]

Really good video and the best rundown ive ever heard...three reasons. So simple but profound. Thank you.

[@carolynstewart8465]

Very well demonstrated and explained❤.

[@Kk-ln1nm]

You are an excellent instructor! Thank you

[@ltningstrike]

While we may have an agenda that day for our horse, stopping to correct a “little” issue like this is important because little issues become big issues. When we have a plan in our head, we can miss those little things. The moment you pull them out of the stall, training begins. Good or bad. 👍🏻

[@sassy6292]

This is a very important message. We overreact to some indicators that there is pain or discomfort most times. I have seen hitchy horses get better as the exercise advances along. Some even have stifle issues that disappear as the body warms up and starts moving. My mini mare has locking stifles that completely disappear as we begin to work. A bystander would see a stiff leg little sweetheart and think that she should rest and not be worked but that would be the worst thing to allow happen. I truly think that you are the only trainer other than my own that has spoken about this and it is because of the ‘push back’ and the controversy that ensues when common sense is mentioned. Those that push back are at a stage of life lessons that disable them to understand deeper and more complex concepts. What you’re saying will stick with them as they develop and one day they will truly understand what you were trying to say. Unless they are the type that would rather cut their noses off to spite their faces lol. Thank you sir for this message.

[@squeezebox7458]

You gotta use some common sense! Absolutely right! Your psychology explanations have helped me be a better leader. Thank you!

[@MadddyDawn]

Sadly this is a problem with society. We want rewarded immediately and don’t want to do the basics to get the reward.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

You are right however we can not change others we can only change ourselves so that is our only concern.

[@jackien5563]

Random 2 AM thought I had: Could a small bench vice be mounted on a wall somewhere so the supplement stick is held where Bob and company can lick away without human hands getting involved? I don't know if the stick is strong enough as is, but maybe a spoon handle or some other "stick" could do the job? I do not know enough about horses to know what is safe or appropriate to try. But it seems that Bob really wants to be hand fed supplements and my mind tackled the problem from a different angle of how to get that stick out of human hands. I learn so much by watching and it has helped me so much in my weekly lessons!

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

I recorded a video yesterday showing what I am doing. Very simple. fix.

[@AdventureHorseRidinginNYS]

I am laughing and he did have that whack coming he kept asking for it😅 and it sure started licking his lips big time a few seconds later because he was really really busy thinking

[@PONYHEAVEN]

So cool.

[@teresabaker5948]

You are an incredible Horsema. Thank you for sharin❤g

[@teresabaker5948]

I was riding shotgun in my husband's snowplow. Sorry for the bad typing. 😀

[@hotmessequines]

Love your channel

[@KerryDior]

Thanks Tim just to reinforce my point is like a red light on my cars dashboard you don't fix the light you fix what's wrong 😊

[@ckarnes9586]

I don't own a horse, but find your videos fascinating, and am addicted to your channel. I had question - once a horse has completed your training program, and returns home, do some of them try and revert to previous behaviors since they aren't under your guidance any longer? Thank you

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Some do but the owners have these video to refer for guidance.

[@susand8816]

We had a mare that didn't want to stand a mounting block. Often she would let me climb up the block and then move away. I just got back down, re positioned the block and tried again and again and again until she let me mount without moving away. This was an older mare with lots o miles that would test me. When she realized I was not giving up, she quit testing me.

[@CrazyDaisy8008]

I'm sorry but Bob being honory makes me giggle 🤭🤭🤭

[@TheKirst12345]

I kinda love that Bob is feeling so good now he is being a bit naughty .

[@wjm9987]

Wow hard to believe Bob is the same horse--he really looks good. My mare was difficult to saddle-- I went to several trainers to help-- I told them that before I got her there had been an accident in her early training with the saddle- stirrup had got caught on the fence during her introduction to being saddled (!!) I got very little common sense advice and they usually came up with the idea that she had a sore back...I am not at all sure that was the problem...

[@cmuir6757]

Tim, could there be a fourth reason? Boredom? Deciding to be disobedient to spice up the day? My dog becomes naughty when he doesnt get taken out regularly to meet people as he loves to be petted and meet other dogs on our beach walks.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Great point and boredom is definitely an issue. I've talked about it especially with young horses and keeping them advancing to keep them engaged. On the other hand I would say that a horse acting out of boredom goes back to a combination of lack of training, lacking in patience, and lack of respect, not waiting on you to give them something to do. Bob is usually very good being mounted at the block and I was taking way too long for him and it showed here showing lack of respect in not waiting on me. Great question! I love questions that make me think!

[@Thewitchesflame]

My question isn't what you're addressing today, but... how does a cow know a horse has penned its ears? If the horse is too the side of the cow, the cow can see, right? But if the horse is following behind the cow, how does it know?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Horses and cows have the same herd dynamics so a cow knows when it's being pushed.

[@normajanderson7304]

I hope Bob will develop more energy.

[@maggiepie8810]

It CAN also be a symptom of back pain or poor saddle fit.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

You should read this. helpwithmyhorse.com/horse-training-and-riding-dont-muddy-the-water/

[@iwanttovote6053]

treats and pushy/mouthy: what is most effective in getting the horse to stop that? I do give him treat rewards as they really work well, both on the ground and riding. I've been incorporating "good boy" and wither rubs so that riding I don't have to give him treats. However, on the ground he can be really mouthy, almost biting to get them. I push his head around and only give treats when his head is straight and relaxed. BUT I think I'll continue to have the problem unless I know how far to go that is reasonable in making him stop. A smack on the mouth? Can you pls help with this?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Quit giving treats is the first step.

[@iwanttovote6053]

😔😂@@timandersonhorsetraining

[@yessabell1707]

❤❤❤

[@katiegehrman6276]

What’s the name of the immune builder you are using? Is it for ulcers?

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

If you have a specific problem you are trying to treat contact them and they will steer you on the right direction. www.balancedecosolutions.com/product/body-balance-fundamentals-immune-builder/

[@kayliedansie5213]

Telling people that they should be able to figure out where a horse is experiencing pain without calling a vet is both unsafe and completely unrealistic. We have vets for a reason. Some horses have huge medical issues that no owner could figure out on their own. Nerve pain similar to fibromyalgia, EPM, pain in the feet, kissing spine, ulcers, the lift goes on. Most owners, especially amateurs would never be able to figure those things out in their own. Expecting a horse to work through pain and deal with it is damaging to their bodies and minds. We need more people who can recognize and listen to a horse in pain, not more people who will bully them through it and tell them to suck it up. There’s been too many injuries for both horses and humans for that anymore. If you suspect pain, seek out a professional, educate yourself, and listen to your gut. The horse will do its best to help you find the answer.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

That is an excuse for not improving your own horsemanship and education.

[@bobkohl6779]

Went to Tom Dorrence, Ray Hunt but John Lyons was great in his day. Hated Pat Perelly

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

We have similar opinions.

[@cmuir6757]

After Bob got the penalty he stood still but kept nodding yes as if he supported every word you said 😂. Yes sir! Butter won't melt in my mouth sir! Hilarious.❤❤

[@Ipreferthemiddle]

T0heo horsecwas shaking his head yes to the lunging

[@susanschmid2271]

What do you think about rewards (something to eat) during the exercise?

[@esmeraldadawnfeather6907]

I personally believe you have to be VERY careful about using food rewards in any exercise or training, as it's so easy for a horse to become pushy and carry the tension from their fear or reservation about doing what you ask inside, in favour of just doing what you want so they get a treat. What then happens is as soon as you attempt the exercise slightly differently, or increase the difficulty, all that stored tension tends to explode out and they'll have a massive reaction. Had a horse in my barn that had been R+ trained, and he was quite genuinely dangerous to be around as he was so nervous. I had the chance to do a couple of sessions with him using pressure and release, and about 15 minutes into the first session that horse yawned, stretched and dropped to roll in the arena beside me. He's been a lot more relaxed since being given clear leadership and having the responsibility of making the decisions taken out of his hands. Sorry, mini rant over 😂

[@shelm-b8p]

I have a mustang. When I started her under the saddle I gave her a treat for standing still at the mounting block. Let me say, I only did once that mistake. From then on she would be searching for the treat and was completely distracted. Ok, she is an extrem example, but no don‘t treat, but tell your horse that it is doing great. Mine likes rubbing.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Reward should always be the release of pressure.

[@PONYHEAVEN]

Training is irreplaceable by nothing.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

He is moving around the block because he is bored

[@tomtke7351]

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