This rappel ring could kill someone

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HowNOT2

HowNOT2

Күн бұрын

How strong are rappel rings? It only needs to be about 2x more than your weight to hold you during a rappel (in case you don't rappel smooth). Add a little safety ratio for good measure and it's super good enough. The problem is if it wears down. / kevhamrich pulled this rolled aluminum SMC rappel ring off a popular route in Yosemite and it broke at 1.5kN instead of it's 14kN it is rate for, which is legitimately dangerous.
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Intro
00:45 Aluminum Tests
03:40 Titanium Tests
06:01 Steel Tests
09:06 Deadly Aluminum Ring
09:47 When to use each one
12:24 Bonus Test: Line Locker

Пікірлер: 703
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
I experimented with more text on screen to see if it helps the audience follow along with either MBS or the results or which test we are on. What do you think? FYI: the chart of data is on the blog www.hownot2.com/post/rappel-ring Check out our new store! hownot2.store/
@samlauer1
@samlauer1 Жыл бұрын
Love it! Edit: It would also be cool to see the live graph so we can see how the samples react to the applied force in real time (if possible)
@jonahhekmatyar
@jonahhekmatyar Жыл бұрын
Love it. Makes it super easy to follow.
@Robbieburnett1
@Robbieburnett1 Жыл бұрын
Love it !
@YannCamusBlissClimbing
@YannCamusBlissClimbing Жыл бұрын
I love it!
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
@@samlauer1 that is something I definitely want to do soon
@jarodlojeck5150
@jarodlojeck5150 Жыл бұрын
Off brand Titanium #2 creaked in the rhythm of the Super Mario Bros theme before it broke!
@niall6533
@niall6533 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! 🤣
@marvinschaefer3973
@marvinschaefer3973 Жыл бұрын
I heard that too! I had the video on in the background and I had to pay attention when I heard the super Mario bros theme.
@sergiej2592
@sergiej2592 Жыл бұрын
5:40
@yawningdog9894
@yawningdog9894 Жыл бұрын
Oh man I was about to comment that 🤣
@mastershake42019
@mastershake42019 Жыл бұрын
Awesome lol. Do do dooo do do doo! Baam!
@fictionmyth
@fictionmyth Жыл бұрын
I love the perfect Mario theme beat at 5:40 Good job setting it up to make sure that exact sound happened! Nintendo will now be in touch through their lawyers.
@Bonavire
@Bonavire Жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would comment cuz I heard that immediately
@MrBollocks10
@MrBollocks10 Жыл бұрын
@@Bonavire someone did 1 week earlier
@calebhohneke8482
@calebhohneke8482 Жыл бұрын
I didn't catch that when I watched through but you are totally right lmao. Perfect tempo and everything.
@Isontro
@Isontro Жыл бұрын
I noticed it!!! then I saw it was replayed a lot so I knew I would fine a comment about it haha
@Vexcenot
@Vexcenot Жыл бұрын
It's the ping pong video all over again
@MrMartroberts
@MrMartroberts Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for breaking one of my Anchor Rings, guys! That's something that I've never managed to do as my load cell is 'only' rated to 50kN, with an allowance that it can be taken to an absolute maximum of 75kN 😊💪
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
It’s an impressive ring!
@yaykruser
@yaykruser Жыл бұрын
You could just add a roll and double the power
@BuggyDClown-pc7sc
@BuggyDClown-pc7sc Жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 where can i buy that titanium ring
@BuggyDClown-pc7sc
@BuggyDClown-pc7sc Жыл бұрын
I could also use a ref link for a strong titanium karabiner hook
@zatoby6705
@zatoby6705 Жыл бұрын
You make good stuff
@patrickjohnsen4199
@patrickjohnsen4199 Жыл бұрын
I’m a member of a U.S. Army Rescue team. I love watching your videos and sharing them with other Soldiers. A lot of your videos definitely help build confidence in our newer members. So thanks!
@amarissimus29
@amarissimus29 Жыл бұрын
Ah, I finally get it. Support our troops. It's not bromide, it's about tensile strength.
@ev6558
@ev6558 Жыл бұрын
@@amarissimus29 Take your meds.
@jasonquiver6907
@jasonquiver6907 Жыл бұрын
@@amarissimus29 Take your meds.
@tstahler5420
@tstahler5420 Жыл бұрын
You mean, telling them their equipment is military grade, doesn't instill confidence? 😂
@korndizl9749
@korndizl9749 Жыл бұрын
Thermal camera view for the experiments would make for some awsome footage
@johngo-jl3uz
@johngo-jl3uz Жыл бұрын
Those Fixe steel rings are impressive. Those are the same ones that are on the bottom horizontal ring of those vertical chain anchors. Next time I hear somebody grumble that the ring is not redundant, I’ll be sure and remind them of your testing. 👍
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
Remind them their rope and harness aren’t redundant either haha
@Riiyan
@Riiyan Жыл бұрын
I think the flex of the weld was what was causing some of them to fail lower then others but still impressive, I would defiantly feel much safer with the forged ones.
@probablyinconsistent4756
@probablyinconsistent4756 Жыл бұрын
@@Riiyan kind of interesting because welds are usually stronger than the base material. However "strength" can be measured in lots of different ways. Welding material also heat treats it which makes it more brittle, not exactly a property you want in something that is going to stretch.
@markifi
@markifi Жыл бұрын
how on earth are you not breaking anything else in there under these insane forces? "holy s&*t" indeed. also, Bobby makes me so happy, he's the best
@TheBoatPirate
@TheBoatPirate Жыл бұрын
they probably broke the machine at least a few times before it got that strong. trial and error works.
@probablyinconsistent4756
@probablyinconsistent4756 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBoatPirate whenever it breaks, add more steel. Eventually it will stop breaking lol
@TheBoatPirate
@TheBoatPirate Жыл бұрын
@Probably inconsistent nothin too strong ever broke! ROFLMFAO
@ronz101
@ronz101 Жыл бұрын
Stress testing should be an industry standard. This stuff is all too common. Thanks for reintroducing these facts!
@jmbt02
@jmbt02 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it standard? I'm sure manufacturers need to test if they want an ANSI rating on their gear
@203_climber
@203_climber Жыл бұрын
more arborist gear!!! we need it !! friction savers, fisherman’s knot, friction savers
@matejkubis
@matejkubis Жыл бұрын
yeeees trees.
@Saml3227
@Saml3227 Жыл бұрын
How2arborist
@203_climber
@203_climber Жыл бұрын
@@Saml3227 there’s an idea
@ozygoliath9599
@ozygoliath9599 Жыл бұрын
I have never done anything to do with rappelling or anything related in any way, but KZbin recomm3nded this to me and I found this super interesting. Thank you guys for amazing content
@miker3174
@miker3174 Жыл бұрын
Your wife is trying to get you into and then she's going to replace your rings with the failed ones! Did she recently update your life insurance? 😆
@John-doe955
@John-doe955 Жыл бұрын
Same thing here @Ozygoliath9599, it was still very cool.
@aurimatic
@aurimatic Жыл бұрын
If you pulled the first titanium one slower you coulda probably made it even more elongated. Strain rate hardening vs strain hardening etc etc
@ianthompson5575
@ianthompson5575 Жыл бұрын
as an aero space welder im surpized that the welded stainless rings were not 100% penitration welds. Which is why it failed on the weld joint and no somewhere else on the ring. If it were 100% penitration and broke on the weld you would have seen solid metall all the way through and it looks like you could see the flats or the bevel of the parent ring matterial. Of couse it meets the kN rating that its designed for, but if they were to weld it with 100% penitration i bet it would contend with the forged rings.
@Dremaus1911
@Dremaus1911 Жыл бұрын
i love how fast you guys shift over to the next frame instead of DRAGGING IT OUT SO LONG!!! love you guys instant sub!
@FiguringEverythingOut
@FiguringEverythingOut Жыл бұрын
Love seeing Bobby back in a video! Awesome classic break test video and super informative. Thanks!
@newjoe2010
@newjoe2010 Жыл бұрын
Amasing video, really nice to see rappel rings being actively tested by other people than the companies that maked them
@danoberste8146
@danoberste8146 Жыл бұрын
The welds on the rings would seem to be less likely to fail if they were welded in an oval shape (like chain links usually are). The one y'all tested with the weld on the anchor didn't hinge open like the ones with the weld on the anchor. The anchor tended to make it pull uniformly across the entire weld instead of stressing the inside edge first. If those rings were ovals, the weld would tend to pull on all parts of the weld. Worth testing?
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 Жыл бұрын
You mean instead of a ring to have an oval? If so then then it would put the wear in only one spot and that was the whole point of using rings that would turn randomly and wear out in multiple spots. If you mean the weld bead being bigger, that might work but would surely mess with the uniformity of wear too.
@danoberste8146
@danoberste8146 Жыл бұрын
@@dragoscoco2173 You're right. So the dilemma becomes: do you want a strong anchor? or an evenly wearing one? 🤔 A welded ring that will handle ~50kN is probably super good enough.
@joelee2371
@joelee2371 Жыл бұрын
The welds on chain links are forge welded, where the link ends are heated and pressed together without any filler metal, so the weld conducts of only the base metal, the filler being provided by the displacement of the base, so it ends up being as strong as the link stock, and possibly a little harder due the rapid cooling; In every chain failure that i ever saw, the link stretched and failed on the side opposite the weld. Of course, this type of weld on climbing equipment is probably not practical, cz of the low production volume. Link chains are made in very high volumes by extremely expensive automated machinery.
@MikeDCWeld
@MikeDCWeld Жыл бұрын
@@joelee2371 usually a weld is quite a bit stronger than the weldment. That's why breaks usually occur right beside the weld.
@IndyNDYT
@IndyNDYT Жыл бұрын
The thing creaking to the rhythm of the SMB theme at 5:43 made me crack up a bit
@CleanIntentions
@CleanIntentions Жыл бұрын
Great thoughts within the last part (and, the entire video as always). I have honestly never considered that there could be environmental impacts with some of the (arguably) small pieces of gear we leave on rock. I'm going to keep this in mind for the future, I don't often re-bolt / change out hardware myself; but it's really nice to know in any case. Perhaps I'll find something like that one day, and be all the wiser about why it may be harmful. Awesome stuff as always guys, you're constantly making our community a better place.
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, it does make a lot of sense they the forged stainless performs better than the welded ring but I was very surprised with how much better and how the position of the weld matters.
@joelee2371
@joelee2371 Жыл бұрын
The problem with weldments is that you generally have to use a lower strength weld filler to prevent cracking and embrittlement as the weld cools. This results in a weaker spot, but, as you saw, the weld was still stronger than the required minimum. I use welded steel rings of 3/8" steel with complete confidence. Also, if the ends are bevelled instead of flat, you get a lap weld which is MUCH stronger than than a butt weld, cz the stress on the weld is a shear instead of a straight pull; this can make the weld actually as strong as the ring stock itself.
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom Жыл бұрын
@@joelee2371 that would actually be interesting to bevel and fill the weld instead of butt weld. Like you mentioned I'm sure that substantially stronger. And yeah I'd have full confidence in a welded ring as long it it wasnt hollow
@gerritvanimpe9759
@gerritvanimpe9759 Жыл бұрын
There's been some commotion about the welded steel rings overhere, where cracks in the weld would mean sure death. So I was wondering what force a cracked ring would still support before it opens up. Could you cut a couple with a handsaw and test them please?
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, it would be between 4-8kn and most likely 6kn. I think an open ring would still hold a rappel but I haven’t officially tested that before.
@gerritvanimpe9759
@gerritvanimpe9759 Жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 cheers! If you get the chance, pop one on the rig for us 😉
@thegamingender6933
@thegamingender6933 Жыл бұрын
as a person who has done tig welding, including screwing it up, I can confirm that in your case, it was NOT weld quality, but rather where you were pulling on it.
@napalmholocaust9093
@napalmholocaust9093 Жыл бұрын
Good titanium alloy. I've never seen it pulled like taffy before. Your pulling rig is impressive.
@timkirkpatrick9155
@timkirkpatrick9155 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing these tests. It helps validate manufacturer data and shows some of the results of sketchy practices.
@mausball
@mausball Жыл бұрын
Tension vs shear loads in welds. Pretty obvious. Also: Buy once cry once. Spend the money for Ti or forged steel and fear not. Rolled AL is cheap but wears incredibly quickly.
@3irc601
@3irc601 Жыл бұрын
Who else heard Mario at 5:43?
@d4r4butler74
@d4r4butler74 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Also very informative! Thank you for the info on why/when Titanium (I am guessing it is a lot more $) should be used, and the problems of Galvanized (Zinc coated) stuff left alone in nature.
@somanayr
@somanayr Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve done a bunch of blacksmithing, so I know a bit about metals. I think the titanium is not getting hot because of the force, directly, but because of the deformation done by the force. That’s why the steel didn’t get as hot! It takes a lot of energy to move metal, and when it does move all of that goes into friction/heating
@kenmercer2721
@kenmercer2721 Жыл бұрын
Agreed - it's all Energy = Force x Distance. So if it stretches heaps (more distance) when a decent force is applied it'll heat more.
@Puukiuuki
@Puukiuuki Жыл бұрын
Indeed. If it stretched, say 3 cm @ 80 kN, that is 2.4 kJ. Pure Ti (these are almost certainly alloy, though) has heat capacity of about 0.5 J / g, so if the thing weighs about 100 g, that would increase its temperature by about 50 °C.
@MrTheomossop
@MrTheomossop Жыл бұрын
@@Puukiuuki a big big reason for the high temperatures is the thermal conductivity of Ti, its pretty much the lowest of all metals, it allows the heat to accumulate very close to the fracture/deformation zone and doesn't give it any surface area to radiate/convect away. The rings are almost definitely Titanium- 6 Aluminium- 4 Vanadium by the way. I would be shocked if they were anything else.
@Puukiuuki
@Puukiuuki Жыл бұрын
@@MrTheomossop The difference in thermal conductivity of steel and titanium is only a factor of 3, and since thermal capacity of steel is about double, and its density is more than double, the thermal diffusion "speed" should not be wildly different. But just because the heat capacity is about double, same energy put into same mass of steel and titanium will cause titanium to heat about double the amount. That and the large amount of stretch at high force (which generates more heat in the first place) should be mainly the reason for the markedly different temperatures.
@cody6009
@cody6009 Жыл бұрын
I don't need or use and anchor ring and I have no idea why I'm watching this or how it got recommended for me, I will say this watching a machine snap different types of metals and the process was super awesome watching, I enjoyed this video. 😀
@matiascorvinus1769
@matiascorvinus1769 Жыл бұрын
Bobys hair is exceptionally stunning in this video
@kieransimmonds9264
@kieransimmonds9264 Жыл бұрын
Looks a little like sketchy Andy’s big brother. And I totally agree handsome lad indeed 🍻
@thejellydonut7587
@thejellydonut7587 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who doesn't really know what a kiloNewton is, the last ring broke at around 300lb, or your average obese person. The strongest ring however would have likely held around 22,000 lb, which is about the weight of a semi (without the trailer)
@JohanMood
@JohanMood Жыл бұрын
Or about 100kg. (actually about 981 Newton) A way for you guys with freedom units to visualise this is that a 1 litre coke bootle weigh almost exactly 1Kg. 1 Newton is the force it takes to make that coke bottle accelerate with 1m/s (a large step). Earth gravity/acceleration is about 9.81m/s, thus that coke bottle does 9.81 Newton (or about times 10 if you going to calculate it in your head). So yhe about 100 coke bottles, but more importantly now you should have to tools to grasp your own force quite easy in your head if you know your weight in kg/coke bottles 😊
@KartiacKID
@KartiacKID Жыл бұрын
Very cool video, I loved how it was puking excellent info out
@athir90
@athir90 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is this? You got me cheering for metal rings?!?!? My god KZbin algorythms, you did it again!
@lawrencecole6527
@lawrencecole6527 Жыл бұрын
So at 7:50 I think what we are seeing is a non-penetrating weld on a tongue and grove style closing. The maker put a slit in one end of the rod, ground the other end into a wedge shape, then welded along the circumference. I believe you can clearly see the slit in the middle through the opening in the center of the welded lighter colored zone. I believe you can also see the remains of the wedge tip barely maintaining weld on the right hand top although the straightness of the leading edge has been badly warped as it was pulled out and apart. I'd like to know because metallurgy is fun and exciting.
@krisbrault1614
@krisbrault1614 25 күн бұрын
"I'm the "super good enough guy" but this is sketchy" I love it! When Ryan says it's sketchy you better listen!
@biblicallyaccurateangel2476
@biblicallyaccurateangel2476 Жыл бұрын
“how’s my hair” MAJESTIC
@niknik0815
@niknik0815 Жыл бұрын
Love how you just faded out the rant at the end :D
@Skim_beeble7125
@Skim_beeble7125 Жыл бұрын
the way that titanium stretched was insane and just a testament to its strength
@JiffyBiff
@JiffyBiff Жыл бұрын
I just like watching people break stuff !
@Ridinfixinman
@Ridinfixinman Жыл бұрын
I'm not a climber, nor have I ever needed to rely on this sort of gea (just here because of the algorithm), but I do have a topical understanding of how not to die when hanging from stuff and that worn rolled ring absolutely flabbergasted me! Why on earth would anyone allow their gear to get to that point?!
@korwynze6288
@korwynze6288 Жыл бұрын
its good that people are doing their own tests this way like you guys do, since not every manufacturer is as transparent
@ITzSmores
@ITzSmores Жыл бұрын
At what force does your machine top out at?
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
with that setup, 90ish kN. You can hear it struggling in the video at that point. My new machine goes up to 150kn without struggling
@theslenderdevil
@theslenderdevil Жыл бұрын
i don't do any climbing or repelling or anything of sort but this video was super useful information when comes to strength and metal rings i should use if i ever am in situation to do thous things or take family out to a local place i can look to insure my saftey and make sure resort or event i'm at has my safety in mine thanks guys for making this video!
@matejkubis
@matejkubis Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Epic insight as an arborist
@tuomassyrjaniemi
@tuomassyrjaniemi Жыл бұрын
Welded 304ss breaks because weld seam is bending and it cracks it open from inside first. When weld seam is agains shackle the round shackle keeps the seam better in its original shape and is a lot stronger
@Wallys_Microbes
@Wallys_Microbes Жыл бұрын
Really interesting metallurgy lessons to be learned here!
@barefootgardener316
@barefootgardener316 Жыл бұрын
such a dope vid thanks guys
@JesusHernandez-ho2si
@JesusHernandez-ho2si Жыл бұрын
This just showed up on my feed and I know nothing about this or what’s going on. But im enjoying my self, I feel relaxed.
@exicx
@exicx Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@connorwesley8757
@connorwesley8757 Жыл бұрын
The weld orientation does matter. In the first part you’re applying pure axial loading to the weld as the shackle keeps the weld orientation in place. In the second orientation you’re applying axial and bending loading to the weld, the bending loading occurs due to the deformation of the ring changing the weld orientation, this causes the weld to shear easier.
@mickys8065
@mickys8065 Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess with the welding issue, when you were pulling on the weld, the force was on a small fraction of the weld, since the inside of the ring has the least surface area. But when you were pulling against the weld, it was being pulled into a straight line, while the weld wanted to remain a wedge. The result is the inside edge of the ring was being pulled much further than the outside edge, which you can see around 6:50. You can also see the 'tear' traveling up the weld, until it reaches around the half way mark, where it flies apart. The end result is, the first weld only has to keep the two sides of the ring close, while the ring does the heavy lifting. The second weld has to help take up the strain of the heavy lifting directly.
@danbartonek
@danbartonek Жыл бұрын
The thing with welds is they act as concentrator of stress... When you load an oval shape, on a long shaft the stress is more or less the same all the way of the flat line. When its a ring angle of internal stress changes along the way (while on one direction its just pull on other it acts towards shear) meaning at round object the stress is not the same around the body. Weld (or area right next to weld) is in general weakest place of the object and different modes of stress can affect it significantly more due to stress concentration, than it would if there was no weld. In addition when you load something from sides, the joint (in this case U bolts) are concentrating stress as well. So if you place weld under the U bolt it weakens that by a lot. (And you load weld across directly which is even worse. TLTR: If you put U bolts on weld its gonna make it way worse, and with welds oval>round. Additionaly i would suggest using ductile rings in this case as when you start to see deformation you can replace it with new one, while brittle will just suddenly snap (as seen in video) and youre screwed.
@bryankano6247
@bryankano6247 Жыл бұрын
full value video! i personally think it would be cool to put a rating of when it deforms too.
@user-cq4nq8ci9o
@user-cq4nq8ci9o 7 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@toddlaplante8583
@toddlaplante8583 Жыл бұрын
very informative video. Most of my climing was underground. Have you guy`s ever tested climing rope? I have some BlueWater 2 that i just pulled of a spool that i have had in a box from the mid 80`s. Looks perfectly fine to me.
@morefreepress
@morefreepress Жыл бұрын
Pulling on the weld was the reason why it broke at 89kN. Pulling against the weld was why the other 2 broke around 50kN +/- . Of those 3 rings, the 2 50kN +/- rings that broke while being pulled against the weld showed deflection before folding inward at the weld. The 89kN ring showed no deflection and simply stretched until it pulled apart the weld.
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
That was my theory but I’d have to break a bunch more to really confirm it. It doesn’t really matter since it’s all strong but it sure is interesting
@morefreepress
@morefreepress Жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 No kidding. 50kN is gnarly good enough.
@kristopherfrootloops6714
@kristopherfrootloops6714 Жыл бұрын
No PETZL Open Ring? The P28 model that has a bolt to secure the gate. These come on their Arborist harnesses and can be installed after a splice is completed. Only ring I've seen that is made like this. I'm always orienting the gates where no force is directly applied. Even though their advertised as multi directional.
@miguelandtrin6440
@miguelandtrin6440 Жыл бұрын
5:42 IT MADE THE LIL MARIO THEME XD
@bxtrem
@bxtrem 9 ай бұрын
any videos on machined steel ? i made some parts out of p295gh on a waterjet ... and i am curious about how much they hold ...like a copy of petzl paw ... il am wondering how much thinner i can make it and stiil hold better than the forged aluminium one
@davidsidwell8749
@davidsidwell8749 Жыл бұрын
Great content did I miss the Dan Osman video you guys did. I saw the 5 minute one but was hoping to see the whole set up and jumps.
@HowNOT2
@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын
Still working on it. Filmed the narrative twice and threw it away both times. I want it to be good even if it takes longer to come out.
@speedbuggy16v
@speedbuggy16v Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if I am more impressed with the force required to break that titanium one or the deformation it survived before snapping. The chinesium ti was a surprise.
@user-dc5ql3jf7j
@user-dc5ql3jf7j Жыл бұрын
This makes me happy
@LorenziLéo
@LorenziLéo Жыл бұрын
You just had a new subscriber for the brown stains joke, congratulations
@gerrycoleman7290
@gerrycoleman7290 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the great video. Where can I purchase titanium rings and forged stainless steel rings. Thanks.
@zachtherat1536
@zachtherat1536 Жыл бұрын
i dont even know what these are used for but its interesting so im just gonna subscribe
@ashleyrose.
@ashleyrose. Жыл бұрын
That strongest ring just decided to pull an uno reverse card on ya
@Mephistopholies
@Mephistopholies Жыл бұрын
Good show!
@RyanHinchcliff-gd8fe
@RyanHinchcliff-gd8fe 21 күн бұрын
I love this channel
@Riiyan
@Riiyan Жыл бұрын
What I wonder, is after seeing how much force some of the steel and titanium rings can handle. Why would you trust your life with aluminum? I don't even trust my aluminum boat in some cases on the water.
@LynxSnowCat
@LynxSnowCat Жыл бұрын
Is there another variation on the linelock that uses a rectangular ring with a saddle-shaped pin/blocker ? Even if it's only rated for a hundred kilo (like the samples I used to have) it would be great for tying things down for the winter. -Years ago- in the 90's; I got a sample of one-piece *nylon* line locks ("for shipping and storage") that held two ends of lashing/strapping while they were tensioned. Each piece had pairs of integrated pins suspended by flexible hinges, shaped to nest *onto* a rectangular ring, instead *into*/through it. This avoided any leverage/collision concentrating force into deforming the ring while keeping the webbing flat. Having seen your demonstration, I think I may have been the only one who completely ignorant of how line-locks _normally_ work, read the instructions instead of 'clipping off the sprues' in the test group. (One in particular who ask me to show them how I'd fastened a set, got very angry and started shouting about how I'd done it 'dangerously wrong' and cut the hinges before becoming even more frustrated and hacking wildly at the 'incorrect' instruction-sheet when the demonstration loop didn't fail-apart under-load as he'd expected.) When I tried to get more, the (intermediary) for the company that made them told me that because I was the only one who had _any_ measure of success that didn't work for the MFG; no more would be available.
@kirkdurkadurka
@kirkdurkadurka Жыл бұрын
Can u view images in infrared light or any other way to see the heat rates
@EazydayTTV
@EazydayTTV Жыл бұрын
where can you get a forged steel one @7:54 time frame and the one @3:44 time frame?
@nicholasrandell2310
@nicholasrandell2310 Жыл бұрын
That broken Ti one looks like it'll make a kickass bottle opener!
@molokaibro
@molokaibro Жыл бұрын
Love the leoni meadows camp coat.
@michaelmccarty8238
@michaelmccarty8238 Жыл бұрын
Was wondering if we’d ever see Bobby again. Good to see him back in the vids.
@harveyscottz
@harveyscottz Жыл бұрын
1:19 Jokes on you bro. I'll go straight to the end. Scroll bar is there for a reason 💁‍♂️
@wildlydistraughtindividual
@wildlydistraughtindividual Жыл бұрын
What are the test anchor rings made of? Just use those
@anthonygallagher1397
@anthonygallagher1397 Жыл бұрын
Good and interesting video.
@popodood
@popodood Жыл бұрын
Are there any cobalt products, idk about corrosion but it wears less
@larryclemens1850
@larryclemens1850 Жыл бұрын
Watching the titanium change colour before breaking was really interesting.
@tigersmith12
@tigersmith12 Жыл бұрын
Do you think that putting stress on them all at once is different then wear because the stress test makes it Heat up and wear cause micro fractures over time which makes it much more dangerous and hard to tell if it's safe. If it was stretched out then you would know for sure. I am just assuming and curious.
@jeep13ca
@jeep13ca Жыл бұрын
On your unmarked titanium the both broke on the side with the smaller shackle. The tighter radius is bending the ring more, higher stress. I wonder what your results would be if you used a soft shackle and had even loading across the surface of the ring
@josephandjessicaweber613
@josephandjessicaweber613 Жыл бұрын
Yes is does matter on how you pulled the welds replay in slow motion the one with the weld in the middle it separates the weld on the bottom so it was like tearing a piece of paper from one side to the other
@mattcolumbia7948
@mattcolumbia7948 Жыл бұрын
Is the moment on those shackles meeting D/d or are the rings point loaded?
@Noname-du3di
@Noname-du3di Жыл бұрын
7:25 the placement of the weld will affect the strength. The amount of force on the pull zone vcs the middle zone is diferent.
@Shadow0000
@Shadow0000 Жыл бұрын
lol the fade out on slack line ramblings
@rogerbussiii
@rogerbussiii Жыл бұрын
While hiking with a church youth group 20 years ago The couple that was leading the group were very into climbing, even taking us climbing indoors... I borrowed their equipment to do a presentation for English class. But one time on an outdoor hike they were able to point out Chains and carabiners bolted to the rock faces for various routes alond our hike.. What stands out is how well They were hidden as to not Be seen.. They were all spray painted the same color as the rock and blended in perfectly. Along our hike there was even a step made of concrete to make a particularly difficult part easy... This was not made by the BLM as I suspected, Rather I was told it was done by climbers Who actually hiked up with concrete and water And made that step for themselves and everyone else.. For the last 20 years I've known to appreciate The time climbers put into managing their routes so that most will never know or notice the chains on the rock face.. it's still very cool to see them when I do, which isnt often..
@Maker-G
@Maker-G Жыл бұрын
Would love to get some of those tecforge rings, can not find em 😢
@thebigbail
@thebigbail Жыл бұрын
Damn!!! I was instinctually covering my eyes for the Ti ring.
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg Жыл бұрын
I don't know, I think 3,300 pounds is a lot. It's lower than the recommended minimum for climbing and I'd always buy something better. But I wouldn't worry too much that I was risking my life if I had to use one in some unusual circumstance. Very educational! I'm surprised at how good the titanium is. Stretching before breaking is a very good thing. More energy absorbed. The solid aluminum rings are fine, but the brittle fracture is a little less confidence inspiring. Great video, and I think it's pretty clear you know what you're talking about!
@crohkorthreetoes3821
@crohkorthreetoes3821 Жыл бұрын
I am curious what that chain breaks at, but I can tell you this I've picked up huge logs and stumps with chains that size and a whole lot rustier.
@DRsideburns
@DRsideburns Жыл бұрын
Why do the rings get hot from being pulled?
@Tarik360
@Tarik360 Жыл бұрын
This probably has already been answered already but what are the testing hooks made of?
@Robbieburnett1
@Robbieburnett1 Жыл бұрын
More slacklines contenttttt !! Pleaseeeeee
@Explore531
@Explore531 Жыл бұрын
can you see if straps or rope it the strongest ?
@Dabestwingman
@Dabestwingman Жыл бұрын
5:42 I swear to god I heard the da da tu duh da ta
@TildaM1994
@TildaM1994 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely have no idea how or why youtube recommends me so many climbing/repelling based videos lol the experiments were super cool and I hope my nephews watch you guys for tips but damn youtube, showing the diagnosed extreme acrophobe isn't gonna make people much revenue in the long term XD Anyone who can climb and talk about climbing as nonchalantly as you guys are like the bravest people from my P.O.V, I can't even stand on step stools without crying XD even with ropes and harnesses I damn near wet myself on a high ropes course in high school when forced onto one.
@briancrawford69
@briancrawford69 Жыл бұрын
What are these things used for? Mounting climbing?
@kamatisboy7173
@kamatisboy7173 Жыл бұрын
5:42 funny mario sound
@east-endjustice7883
@east-endjustice7883 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how much weather temperatures affect the results like extreme cold etc.
@Severalangrybees
@Severalangrybees Жыл бұрын
I watched the titanium break three times and still felt the need to safety squint every time.
@Sef_Era
@Sef_Era Жыл бұрын
I just want you to know that I ‘almost’ downvoted you for the clickbait, but in this case it didn’t turn out to be. Good on you, but be careful about that kind of thing. It felt like, in the opening, you were claiming ‘all of the rings’ could kill someone; and in hindsight it still feels like I shouldn’t trust aluminum ones ‘ever’. Not that I climb, anyways. I didn’t think you would use clickbait, and you haven’t ‘really’; but it was a lot more gray than I usually see out of you guys. Still, an upvote for the awesome video content, as usual- you kept my focus, and were a wonderful use of fifteen minutes of my time. Keep up the great work :)
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