This RV breaks ALL the Rules!! 2023 Imagine 22RBE Couple's Camping Travel Trailer by Grand Design

[@slscamg]

This is great. Right under 26’ so I can get into all the smaller state parks around me. With a full width bathroom. Perfect layout for me.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

awesome! Enjoy :)

[@wildhog3217]

If you don’t mind used, you should check out the Rockwood 2304DS. About the same size and weight but with 2 apposing slides. I own the 2016 model since brand new and it’s been great.

[@pattyolson3842]

That full width bathroom is pretty nice sized.

[@williamkempsell8692]

We own a 2021 xls 22rbe. It works perfectly for my wife and me…and even our two labs and one golden retriever! No issues with the slide and the awning. In fact, the awning helps to keep leaves and such from gathering on the top of the slide. The bathroom is such a nice size for a trailer of this size, as is the kitchen counter space. And yes, to answer a previous comment, there is a power outlet under the top cabinet in the bathroom. Often missed in videos but it’s there. 😊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow! Lot of bodies in there

[@StacieS225]

We have a 2021 (before the solar and 12-volt fridges were added). We love it. Perfect couple's camper...meaning two people and no more (if you don't opt for the dinette), which is why we bought this one, as well as for the separate bedroom and ability to access everything with the slide closed. The huge bathroom was a plus.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Stacie! Glad to hear it 😊

[@coachwillits]

We've got the 2020 and love it! Currently pull it with a '18 F150 3.5 Ecoboost and the 22RBE checks all the boxes.

[@darenaubiephotography8570]

Have been looking for a new unit for over a year. I kept coming back to the floorplan and this video. Pulled the trigger this week on a brand new 2023 22RBE. Great blowout pricing on the 2023 model year. Thanks for all you do Josh. Your videos are the first thing my wife and I check before considering a travel trailer. Cheers!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow congrats!! Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review

[@darenaubiephotography8570]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Done!

[@MarkAJones-uf3et]

Hey Josh, after watching your informative videos for the last year the wifey and I decided to purchase the 22RBE. Drove it home from Las Vegas yesterday. It's the perfect couples trailer with a huge bathroom and I don't mind the camp side slide. Thanks for all the help Josh.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That's awesome! TY for sharing! Would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the helping hand? It'll cost you nothing and I'd sure appreciate it! :)

[@mikesarno7973]

I like this floorplan. I think I'd like it more without the slide.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I would be interested to see what that would look like myself. It might get awfully cramped quickly

[@mikesarno7973]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I imagine taking the theater seat out of the retracted slide, placing two swivel reclining chairs in the slide with a drop down table between them. Then I just imagine removing the elements of the actual slide. Yes, there would not be much room if the recliners faced across the body of the camper, but, that would not cause too much of an issue since those are the only two seats and this is presumably a couples or solo camper. There would be plenty of room at the drop down table for dining. I agree it would not be as spacious as the current floor plan, but it would also weigh less, cost less, and not require the maintenance of a slide.

[@simplywanda1065]

@@mikesarno7973 Absolutely 💯

[@StacieS225]

You don't have to extend the slide....can access everything with the slide in, and can even recline the chairs with the slide in.

[@naru9359]

@@mikesarno7973 I agree. It will weigh and hopefully cost less (haha, maybe on the cost, ;-). One pro for the slide being under the awning is leaves and such won’t have to be cleaned off. For those who need the space, it’s a good feature. I also want to see it without a slide but want to keep the sofa if only for my grandchild bed 🙂

[@nomadicana]

I’d love to see this without a slide, so a buyer could replace the sofa with a desk. (And I’d love to see them offer a twin bed option! Then you don’t need a sofa)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think it could be done!

[@rabbi6225]

I’d like to see this with a spikey bed like they have in India.

[@donchaput8278]

I think this in a no slide with twin beds in the front (with megabed conversion) would be an interesting option.

[@stevez340]

I would never trade a comfortable place to sit for anything on a rainy day or at night👍

[@chevyedwinhalevasquez2994]

I can see that looking really good. Maybe a little more lightweight.

[@Hemifan4266]

This is the RV that I would buy to grow from our Flagstaff EPRO E19FD. We went and looked at this trailer, it is a class act, tons of storage, really interior nice design. Decent weight for a small V8 towing vehicle. Great fit and finish. The pocket doors to the bedroom and bathrooms are great, no opening doors to worry about. Grand Design just seems to be really well thought out and executed trailers.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They do do some slick stuff for sure

[@musketeermefranks9335]

Not bad! A bit small when you include my service dog into the mix. He's kind of large. But if the FW Reflection of our dreams isn't available, this MIGHT do. Thank you, Uncle Josh! We do greatly appreciate you!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Which Reflection has caught your eye?

[@musketeermefranks9335]

@@JoshtheRVNerd The 2022 Grand Design Reflection 341RDS. 😍

[@cfurrey18]

Love our 2023 22RBE. The only thing I dislike is the water heater control in the bedroom. Emits light all day/night even when turned off. Don't miss the dinette as we rarely used in our previous travel trailers. Slide on door side is manageable. Miss out on a little space under the awning. All in all, great couples camper!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty for sharing. Good intel

[@lisablackstock9650]

This is right up my alley!! Love this little guy and being backwards…..well that’s about my personality, so this could be right on point for my wants/needs!! 😮🎉❤

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😆

[@bradbalderson8172]

I love this layout and the counter space is awesome because we utilize using a crock pot quite a bit when camping. Thanks for showing us this model Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure! I think the kitchen really is the unsung hero of this one

[@bradbalderson8172]

@@JoshtheRVNerd absolutely, we've been camping before and it's turned out to be a rainy week that kitchen comes in handy.

[@Turnhog]

My wife and I own this RV and my wife loves it! We had a Wolf Pup 17lgbl, which I preferred for towing, but we love this RV for couple's camping. We're seniors and the bathroom and drawer space sold my wife. For having a dedicated bedroom, it's not too long. As for towing, my equipped F150 somewhat struggled. It was definitely borderline, so I returned to a 3/4 ton truck. We keep collapsible aluminum tables behind the counter eating. Downsides: it's not designed for additional company to visit, the AC is loud, and the bathroom lav is tiny. But overall, it has more pluses than minuses! Thanks for another great video, Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Love the input from real owners. Thank you.

[@IAssassinII]

What size engine? We have a 4.6l V8 02 Expedition and are considering this one

[@Turnhog]

@@IAssassinII We had the 5.0 V8 motor in the F150. Payload was the problem, not the motor. I miss the comfort of the 1/2 ton, but the 3/4 ton is far superior when towing. I don't even use the weight distribution system any longer, which was a necessity with the F150. With very strong winds I might use it for the anti-sway function.

[@XLSLife]

Been full-timing in one of these (a 2022 model) for just over 2 years. It's great for 1-2 people. So many things I love about it. The control panel/gauges, being able to access everything with the slide in, the large (for an RV) bathroom, the 12v fridge, the length. It's really like a small studio apartment on wheels in a lot of ways. I wish they offered an option for tank heaters from the factory and ran the water lines under the cabinets with the heating ducts (relocated mine there so they can't freeze) but overall, I've been super happy with it. Perhaps more importantly, I've yet to find another floorplan that I think would have been better, out of all the models I've checked out at shows or visiting others' campers at campgrounds. It does a good job of handling everything the Midwest can throw at it too. I've been through everything from 110 to -12 and it stayed between 68-74 inside, it's withstood severe thunderstorms with 80mph winds and 1" hail, and it's even survived Michigan interstates (a few things have jostled loose, but nothing I couldn't fix myself.)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That's awesome to hear from a full-timer. You've put it through the paces and it's held up well!

[@rodyoung7045]

Great floor plan. Definitely worth considering. It would be interesting if they could make this same floor plan without the slide. I believe there is just enough space under the awning with the slide out.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Rod

[@kablah777]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I racked my brain for too long trying to figure out how a tie rod would help with the awning. Then I realized you were just saying "Thank you, Rod".

[@justme55124]

so many nice things about this camper! My favorite is all the drawers!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It has SO MANY! I love it :)

[@cablemanf250]

👍 Again, do away with the slide and add a 1/2 dinette to that wall with a picture window and it would be Perfect, we live outside while camping.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY

[@StacieS225]

It has a dinette option, but would have to be ordered as dealers usually carry the one with the theater seating.

[@Cptstokes]

I've installed many tankless water hears and my customers love them. The best upgrade ever.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

nice!

[@MikeStJohn-du5ue]

Yes, love the tankless water heater. Very good floor plan.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx Mike! Safe travels buddy

[@theartistjodievans]

Love love love that you can still access everything when the slide is closed!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It was nice to see

[@Vern-gu3um]

Love the layout of this. The kitchen area is sooooo spacious. Getting rid of the dining table and having the foldable table saves so much space for extra storage and kitchen area. The bathroom space is amazing also. That drawer and large under sink cabinet. The room to relax on the toilet. Love the cabinet design. Those large handles really stood out to me- -I love them. The silver on the cabinet above the bed adds a nice touch. Love the large fridge. While I absolutely love the interior with all the space and windows on camp side, the slide on the camp side does make the outside space tight and probably unusable for me except for cooking outside. Overall I'd buy this and really enjoy it!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome! Ty Vern

[@roboSKAY]

Closing the slide for outside party looking good seeing how the road mode functions

[@patsheridan7647]

No slide and twin beds will make this one perfect for me

[@leebiggs2844]

My wife loved the '23 22rbe we saw at the dealer, but price put us off. So we bought a used '20 from one of their other locations! A few differences: no bedside cubbies, old style fridge/water heater, and no solar. But we love it! I was looking for a unicorn, no slides, about 25', tandem axle- as we wanted to fit in National Parks easier, this came real close. We picked it up on a Monday six weeks ago, and did a cross country trip from Seattle to Orlando through 20 states in five weeks, NO issues. But it's definitely not as boondocking friendly as my 06/07 Arctic Foxes I've had, but it will be by summer's end when I'm done with it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, it’s really hard to find something that works as well off grid as a Northwood I think Their tank sizes alone are hard to beat

[@leebiggs2844]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Nash/AF actually made a very similar trailer for '00-'01, the 22L. Basically a variation on their extremely popular 22G. 24' LOA, door side shallow slide with booth dinette, walk around queen, and rear bath. No L-shaped kitchen though so didn't have even half the counter space.

[@jonathanverda5120]

Honest to god at this price point. I don't think anyone does storage better than Grand Design.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They really do a fantastic job in that regard. No question

[@russellriggan2088]

We own a 23 LDE, and we have empty cabinets.

[@jonathanverda5120]

@@russellriggan2088 owned a 23 BHE. 2 adults, 2 kids, 2 dogs (newfoundland and a husky) and always had unused storage space.

[@gaildudlicek890]

My OH my! This baby ticks off all the boxes for a beginning trailer for me and my hubby. Ginormous counter space in the kitchen and storage galore (I mean SERIOUS storage)! Road mode is fabulous! The awning over the door and the slide is great. Yes, you lose some of the led lighting, but nothing a lantern couldn't make up for. I would upgrade the fan in the bathroom and most likely the mattress. I would prefer the interior decor be a bit lighter and brighter, but that's just my preference. Thank you Josh for all your hard work.

[@xnykid]

i love the idea that they have their priorities straight. TV small and storage big. this is a top contender for me. form has to follow function living in a small space.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you for watching!

[@roboSKAY]

Closing the slide for outside party looking good seeing how the road mode functions

[@davidlinkletter4865]

Thanks Josh and Grand design have fun keep safe & happy camping everyone! 😅

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY David!

[@gloverwilliam374]

This is a great exercise ! It's even better when you go up then out,then back in then down ! Very slowly, engaging that core❤

[@joycemaurer3588]

You almost don't need a slide with this! Putting the kitchen on the driver side is so much better! Very nice. I know the tankless wh residential will go bad sooner if you have hard water. You never know what you'll get traveling.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, I like a little outside the box thinking

[@quiltqueentoo8312]

My fav out of all campers so far. Been watching 2 years ish. I would love this without a slide also.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow! Awesome 😊

[@davidfbowen]

We owned one of these. The best part that I now miss is no slide on the driver side. I was able to put the trailer closer to the side of the site, giving us more sitting space on the door side. The slide did not interfere much with usable space. Great layout from a great manufacturer!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty David! I wondered about that

[@Time2getgoin]

Thats pretty cool, I never thought about the awnings always being on the drivers side. I like the idea of it being opposite. Nice to able to crowd the parking space. My sister bought it and we'll be meeting her next week to go on a trip with her. Looks very nice👍👍

[@roannathephoenix8561]

Finally! If you like slides this is a fantastic option for couples.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah Glad I finally got this one :)

[@karenluebke4133]

I really liked seeing the roadmode. Thank you for doing that. Let’s me know I can use the bed, bathroom and fridge without putting the slide out.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure! doing things like that is based off input from viewers like you. I can’t fulfill every request, but if there’s a way you think we could improve our presentations, and let me know, and I will do my best.

[@StanleyForcier-mh8pi]

My vote on the slide out on passenger side; I prefer it there however a bit of a concern about the sharp corners rubbing on the awning and creating a hole especially if rainwater starts to pool and it's not caught on time. As far as tankless heaters, I love them. Run water all day long and never run out of hot water. They also take up less space and not as complicated as a regular water heater. You do a great job on the walk through, thanks

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, I wonder how this one would work or some kind of kitchen slide…

[@juliaedwards-dake6870]

My concern as well.

[@stevegilchrist1099]

22 RBE owner here. Most of us cut a slit in a pool noodle along its length, then push it onto the top edge of the slide to protect the awning from the sharp corners of the slide. Works like a charm!

[@sgw3612]

Love the camera wiggle in the shower that made it look like you were rocking the boat. I like this one if 86 the slide & sofa. As a single camper, I want a floating recliner rather than a sofa... one I can relax in during road mode.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@2156cynthia]

FINALLY! A ccamper that has my musts! 25 feet, Walk around bed, Door, Kitchen Counters, Road Mode usuable!!!!!!!!! Slide on that side is a bit wierd but I don't think it matters all that much. Hope to buy this used in 2-3 years.

[@fordilac]

A large window BEHIND your head is kind of useless. You can't look out but people can look in. Optional dinette would be for me.

[@slscamg]

I’m with you there. Plus I go outside when I camp so no need for TV viewing. If I wanted to watch TV I could stay home and do that for free 😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I've had folks share similar thoughts. I get it

[@StacieS225]

We have this camper (2021) and you would have to get onto a stepladder to see inside those windows. Can only see from the TV up even from a distance. Can't see inside during the day (we keep the blackout shades closed at night...duh).

[@donchaput8278]

If you don't need to hang out under the awning next to the camper and just want your awning for keeping your entry area cool and dry, this is a GREAT camper! I thought it would be a dealbreaker at first but I think it gives you more camp site area like you mentioned. I would set up another covering for my outdoor table area and it's nice to have a screened in covering when there is food anyway. I think the setup it gives you is worth setting up a separate tarp/tent for your rainy day outdoor area and dining table. The awning will probably keep the seals on that slide out in better shape over the years too and the debris off.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

A few owners have chimed in. Seems like it wasn’t much of an issue but everyone has a preference certainly

[@higg2156]

So if one had Netflix and Amazon prime technically that would make them swingers🤪 Great bathroom, curious placement for control set.

[@dirrtydevildog]

Been full-time in our 2022 22RBE for almost two years now. Love it!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Great to hear, TY!

[@mikeritchie2189]

Awesome. I love that you have been showing a lot of the Grand Design trailers. So many floor plans a great trailer. It cool to see that this brand is thinking outside the box with different ideas. You don’t see that out of other brands. Great video keep being the great rv geek you are.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I was never opposed to it, I just didn’t always have access to them

[@captsam54]

Because it's a schwintek slide out and notorious for getting out of alignment.. And powered by 2 motors in the top of the sidewall, almost impossible to get at and the seals never go back right... So NO... Plus those little motors cost about 400 each...And Tankless is a brilliant new wave...On Demand.. Saves on Propane.... Now if they would do something with the dumb furnace setup..... That is in EVERY RV.... That thing uses as much Propane as a water heater on full time..lol

[@StacieS225]

Never have had an issue with the slide in our 2021. We make sure to keep the slide button pushed for a few seconds after it fully retracts or extends (per manufacturer's manual). Our electric/propane water heater doesn't use a ton of propane. We don't turn it on unless we need it, and we turn on both electric and propane at the same time....endless hot water (I take long showers and have not run out of hot water yet when camping).

[@Hemifan4266]

Even on busy camping seasons, I might go through 2 tanks of propane. I has always been amazed at how efficient the appliances are.

[@dancingshig]

I converted my water heater to be able to do electric on demand or propane. I'm usually someplace with hookups, so it means less propane use. Every little bit helps since propane prices started climbing. I like having the immediate hot water, because I have the tendency to leave the water heater either off until I needed it or on all day because the switch is where I won't see it until I'm walking out the door.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow interesting.. I love that idea

[@Brigand231]

This'd make an amazing starter camper. The only thing I would suggest is maybe swiping Ember's Murphy bedroom idea. Not a huge thing for us, but I'm guessing some folks would also complain about the carpeted slide floor.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh, the Murphy bedroom?

[@zachmakowski6364]

Love the content and how you presentate it, nerd! Thank you. To answer one of your questions, the wife and I love our tankless water heater on our 2600rb imagine so far!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty!

[@stewmeat9261]

My fav. XLS model. the openness of the living space and the space in the bathroom is my fav parts. But honestly for what they charge for this unit some XL fans and slam latches are really in order.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’m glad I finally had a chance to get this one recorded after so many requests. It’s nice seeing something a little different.

[@jroot1680]

Great video. Looks like the floor plan would work without a slide-out.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think it might

[@leannefloyd9454]

Thank you Josh. I really like this layout. Slides do make me a tad nervous though. Thank you Grand Imagine

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx Leanne. Any insights I can offer to give you a little peace of mind on them?

[@leannefloyd9454]

@@JoshtheRVNerd my main concern is if they get stuck and can’t be brought back in. A smaller concern is having a slide slide out going down the road. Probably never happens and I’m over thinking things 😜

[@stevenkaskus6173]

Looks like a pretty nice unit but I'd rather have a nice recliner instead of a couch/sofa and no slide

[@StacieS225]

It is theater seating...recliners on each side.

[@dave-yeahthatsme3925]

i would love to see a camper set up for handicapped people. have a ramp to enter, open floor plan ,no carpet.I would make it with an adjustable bed or the option to just add your special bed from the house. a large bathroom so a wheelchair could fit in.and lastly a seat in the shower or roll in shower. thanks for listening to my ideas. I watch all your videos Josh, thanks for what you do!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think Hyline might make a few ADA compliant

[@rogerstaats1449]

Have a 2015 Shasta Revere with opposing slide outs. Never gave the loss of awning space from the kitchen slide a thought. Just had to listen to the fridge whine next our ears.

[@marcydobbs1653]

Clever ideas delivered by a clever guy.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Lol

[@laattardo]

This is so nice. I agree with everyone about leaving out the slide and putting in small dinnett. Love everything else about it. I want to camp for outdoors, not a tv in a new location. 😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Fair enough!!

[@penniechrispickard728]

I love it! Good job Josh! We enjoy your videos!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks so much!

[@sean2148]

Thank you for the input on the slide when it’s closed. Hadn’t thought it as a potential problem but I’ll definitely consider it now.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah it's not something for which MFGs typically test or back with their warranty.

[@janemuir3546]

If we buy this floor plan, we would have to go with the Rockwood. The GD has no tall storage in the kitchen.... coffee pot, soda stream, insta pot, pasta pot. Thank you again for all the details Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stevenkaskus6173]

Has lots of good storage in the kitchen more secure and useful than cabinets the drawers are better.

[@stevelongbeach5290]

I like seeing road mode!

[@MatthewIrvine]

I would be willing to sacrifice the overhead cabinet, some counterspace and part of the 3 drawers next to the fridge for a real pantry. I like to eat and don't want to pull food out of drawers. Great road mode! Awesome rear bath. Wow, that stink pickle outlet pipe is long! I'd cut that back a bit.

[@Hemifan4266]

If you are running the drain into something, I am thinking the wheels might be in trouble to.

[@TEN-ve8mp]

More cabinets instead of the TV placement would be a great option.

[@djohnson542]

We purchased this RV this spring and have used it through about 4 weeks of camping. There are places where the slide does take up space under the awning, although not from the campsite space itself. However, we love the interior space and storage. One additional “beef” is the tiny sink in the bathroom. We would have preferred a tank water heater. The tankless is wonderful if you are in a full-hookup campsite. However, if you don’t have that, such as Michigan State Parks, the tankless water heater makes it very difficult to conserve water and tank space. It doesn’t play well with the water pump. So, it depends on how you plan to use the unit whether or not a tankless water heater works well for you.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY. i'm hearing more and more tankless isn't a great solution for boondocking

[@laattardo]

Omg, you have me in tears over the streaming services analogy 😂😂😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wykyk

[@CusiQ]

We live in a hot and sunny climate, and having the awning over top of the slideout roof is not necessarily a bad thing. 😊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Fair enough! Thank you for the perspective

[@eneyomarr]

Good Floorplan without slide

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I would kinda like to see how it sizes up

[@christopher.angel.rivera3004]

One of my top 3

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good pick!

[@juliaedwards-dake6870]

Great counter space but a small pantry would be nice. I can live with the TV being so high but the microwave requires a step stool for short people. Id rather have cabinets and use my airfryer. Still want doors on all my cabinets in the bath. Loose the outside speakers. I have very nice bluetooth speakers. Swap the speakers for a better fan in bath. Nice cabinets in the bed room. I love the Euro decor. Andcthe road mode is superior.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Few other folks have mentioned the pantry too. Ty for the insight!

[@scottelwood8746]

This gets an A- for sure. Thanks 👍👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Nice thank you

[@eddielittleii8919]

Another great review Josh, did not love me with any questions. Very Poinient. I really like it!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@Cptstokes]

finally! As this is the one we want, new or used. New does have the 12 volt refeer but all the drawer! plus a toilet you don't have use gymnastics to use!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

:)

[@HeathInHeath]

One point that NOBODY ever mentions is that this awning provides great protection to the slide top. Minimal cleaning required.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Fair point!

[@darenaubiephotography8570]

That awning won't last one season before that slide wears a hole in it. Poor design

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@darenaubiephotography8570 speaking from experience as an owner or estimating?

[@darenaubiephotography8570]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Based on being a long time RV owner, seeing how fragile awnings are and being an Engineer. Contact with sharp corners, a slight breeze, and constant rubbing is not a good recipe. My wife and I seriously considered getting this model this year but passed once we seen the contact of the awning on the slide.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@darenaubiephotography8570 ty

[@jordanb4412]

I have this model in a 22 model year. I really like the black handles and fixtures ours are silver. We did swap the mattress. I've never had issues with the awning space but we don't honestly use it too much usually just open it enough on rainy days to have a good entry way. I do love that it came with built in winterizing valves that weren't in this video. Ours does have a dometic Air conditioning which is super loud and that's all I wish was fixed. I also added the moyride cre3000 equilizer and wet bolts the original set up squeaked like crazy on a lot of the off roadish stuff we were doing. Other than that it's the best camper for me the wife and our two dogs and it had a good enough ride height to get to some of the forest land spots we like with no issues. Edit to add: the comments are correct that this could work without the slide I have definitely never sat on my couch with the slide in but as long as you don't kick out the foot rests from the couch I could see it being a very good no slide camper but the space you get with the slide out makes these feel huge on rainy days! Ok last edit for Josh specifically: You need to yell to anyone who will listen in the industry to get rid of blue lights. I was a sailor and there's a reason ships used red lights, it doesn't damage your night vision so red lights can be used everywhere has night lights as awning lights and you can still walk out and see the stars and it won't disturb your neighbors I don't know why this isn't a standard the blue lights are literally the worst thing you could use.

[@oldengineer1519]

We had the dealer install the MORryde CRE3000 and wet bolts before we picked up our new 22MLE last week. It was worth the money based on my 150 mile drive home.

[@jordanb4412]

@@oldengineer1519 that was a good choice I did 2k miles on the original set up an I squeked way to much after the update I couldn't be happier. The mle was a very close second pick for us but I was somehow attracted to the camp side slide

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I don’t think enough people truly appreciate and value better suspension packages on RV’s I don’t like you, they ride nicely, but it also contributes to the longevity of the RV in my estimation by dampening violence, the translates into the body of the unit while traveling

[@GrillMarksBud-S-n-P]

I like everything about this except, I personally don't like losing Awning space.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

yeah that really is the major hangup

[@amymaley]

Give me that floor plan, but add another slide for the kitchen! I am a sucker for opposing slides and island kitchens. Love the camp side windows that is what my current camper is desperately missing.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Interesting idea…

[@goodtobehandy]

Spent 10 weeks on the road and the gas /electric on demand water heater is great. Plenty of hot water and fast .

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you Mark. That’s exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to hear.

[@boskone]

I like the vent over the bed, and wish more had that. I wish they'd ditch the black nose, though. Or offer an option. My 22MLE is noticeably warmer in the front when facing south or west, versus the rear when facing north or east.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Surface heat generation is a very real thing no doubt

[@justorganizemylife]

Thanks for opening the awning! I think you lose the ability to have seating under the awning with the slide. When the awning was tilted, the corner of the slide appeared to be putting an indentation on the awning, which over time could be an issue. I love the layout! Thanks for recording this, and thanks Grand Design for the tour.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for watching and sharing !

[@jeremywoodbeck6393]

Thi IS the exclusive one! Been looking for this floor plan with the on demand hot water heater!. I'd personally get rid of those linen shelves for a bigger shower, upgrade the bathroom fan, have better levelers, better entry steps, a door shade, and have better solar.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Rockwood actually just tried their hand at this layout: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5-biYKtl6akeZI

[@jeremywoodbeck6393]

The rockwood version is the 2518s the flagstaff one is 25fbls. These are the 2 I have been looking at. I really like the 2518s but I really want the on demand hot water heater. Any other models or manufacturers have something like this?

[@jeremywoodbeck6393]

Heartland sundance 222rb

[@jeremywoodbeck6393]

Sunset trail 222rb

[@JohnDavis-fk6cf]

Love the layout!

[@BS-ni8ww]

Nice! Slide out under awning is a bit of a negative. Love the kitchen. Do they come in gray? Where do you have the TP in an RV, I never see a roll holder.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They do not currently offer any other decors. Many manufacturers will ship things like a toilet paper holder loose so they can be installed where a customer wants them.

[@victorshaw7173]

I am curious if the slide will puncture a hole in the awning.

[@casandrabartee9872]

I'm looking to purchase an RV to live in, and I like this floor plan. The flip flop of this design helps me to better understand why there typically aren't slides on the camp side of the RV, but it isn't a deal breaker for my circumstances. Perfect for a single, the outside lights can be MacGyver'ed to accommodate the block of awning lights. This is manageable for my circumstances. 👌👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah lot of people ask "Why can't you just flip flop it?" You create as many problems as you fix doing it -- often considered "Deal breaking" factors

[@marybourgeois5235]

I love that it's flipped.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah I like something a little different

[@claudetteyoung3383]

Would they swap out a dinette for the couch, I wonder. Would be great if they could find space for even a narrow pantry. Otherwise a great looking layout and has plenty for the single person or couple.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Pretty sure dinette is available here

[@Chimp_6]

If we were in the market for a towable that one with the dinette option would be on our Top 5 list!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Well, thanks for sharing! What else do you have your eye on?

[@JandAReview1]

I like it! 👍 love all the floor space that the slide provides. Tell you the truth we love the traditional electric/gas water heater, use the campground power instead of using my propane.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I get that. They don’t use a ton of propane thankfully. And I like warm showers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@JandAReview1]

@@JoshtheRVNerd yeah that’s what I heard. The next camper we get is going to have one anyway.

[@azzkikin1]

Id love to the slide back to the other side and have the kitchen in there. Bigger slide, but keeps those windows on the camp side. And opens your awning back up. How does the slide effect the wear/rubbing awning. Not to mention when tilted for rain.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah that's the push/pull. LOTS of RVs out there with a larger door-side kitchen but those windows are fairly unique here. I've not heard owners reporting awning rub issues on this but that doesn't mean it couldn't be happening. I'm simply unaware. I'd likely get like copper pipe tubing on it myself

[@Trucker2001]

I don’t like how the awning lays on top of the slide out. That’s going to wear on that awning. Especially on windy days.

[@jeff67mustang]

This almost exact floor layout i had planned for a cargo trailer a few years ago. I get up earlier than the wife and go to bed later so we have a 26RB camper when showering it doesn't bother her. I think camper should be offered without slide or a slide that only moves half the distance like alot of RV's did back in the 90's moving out 1 1/2 feet or 2'. ....a twin bed option should be offered as well.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you, Jeff!

[@earlp28]

Thank You for the review.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching!

[@Saintly2]

I do appreciate seeing the drive-mode. My only beef is seeing so much of that toilet. 🚽

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol yeah.. I get that :)

[@gaemlinsidoharthi]

Would’ve thought the kitchen sink would be better back by the bathroom to leave that side bench with the power sockets for appliances.

[@BarryD-f8k]

Tank was water heaters. The best have my house for 20 years that way.

[@oldengineer1519]

This is a great floorplan from the inside but we have seen it with slide, awning and stairs out which is where this one IMO fails. The slide and stairs take up most of the prime outdoor seating area. The slide is so close to the awning it stops you from being able to angle the awning to shed rain. That same closeness creates the possibility of ripping the awning on the slide top corners. Of the three XLS models with this GVWR I think most folks would be better served by the 22MLE or 23LDE due to the better outdoor living space under the awning. I don't think the slides in the 22aaa and 23aaa should be used with the slide in based on what I've seen. The rollers that support the slide floor are pretty far back as a result the front half has no support and is pretty wobbly. Our old Micro Minnie the jack knife sofa was pretty solid as the sofa platform was part of the slide box structure built over the wheel well. The only way to decide is by taking a deep look at how the slide is built and supported then cross your fingers.

[@pattyolson3842]

Thanks Grand Design!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😊

[@stevenfoster5737]

Good design although I hate awnings over the slide. Nice review as always.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah, this is one of the only floorplans I’ve seen remain successful with a campsite slide under an awning like that

[@NewDayNewAdventure77]

Great floor plan!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I liked it better than I expected!

[@NewDayNewAdventure77]

We own one and love it!

[@wildhog3217]

I thought that’s why they discontinued the Rockwood 2304DS because the slide takes up awning space. I much prefer the Rockwood 2304 DS. Weighs about the same and has apposing slides.

[@JeffInDFW]

Grand Design does great floorplans. No front cap !with that extra seam just above the name decal! is a let down BUT gives lower hitch weight. No Azdel this late in the game is not okay and would save weight which hopefully they would put into giving us solid surface counter tops or a front cap. ------ @Josh When beds are in a slide like Rockwood 2516S, are you able to put very much weight in the under bed storage area??! What is the weight limit since it is in a slide and the weight will still be in it when the bed is retracted? That space is the largest outside storage area in that unit....Thanks as always friend.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Loading stuff in designated areas is no issue unless you felt like loading cinder blocks and concrete mix lol

[@JeffInDFW]

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