This should be included in every Lift Kit. | DrKDSS BOTCK (Bolt on Trackbar Correction Kit)

In this video, I install a pretty important mod to add to the list if you are lifting your vehicle. I also tried to explain a bit of the reasoning why this is important and why you should get it. Check it out!
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[@InGratitudeIam]

This was really helpful. Now, I've got a couple of things I have to check that I never even considered before but this is important. Thank you, Zach.

[@OverlandEngineer]

For sure!

[@jamesporter2626]

Thank you for giving me a better understanding of another suspension geometry angle. I've always known there was more to the term, but aside from CV's, drive shaft and UCA's, I didn't know any others.

[@OverlandEngineer]

There’s so much…

[@wannabecarguy]

Learning how to overland in a stock vehicle is also a solution. Used to call it " off-road".

[@jsnow6925]

Not as fun or look as good. To each their own though

[@pempem8527]

Great video explaining the geometry. I put the exact same kit on my lifted 4runner after some research. Adjustable panhard bars are a waste of money for most lifted 4runners, but this kit is a huge bang for the buck....and no welding!!! Great mod!

[@OverlandEngineer]

Thanks! Right, it’s so approachable! Well my adjustable bar is much stronger than the stock one.

[@davileett1224]

@@OverlandEngineer aside from a threaded bolt being your weak link.

[@OverlandEngineer]

@@davileett1224 Its a massive hardened bolts with many threads, it will take a lot to break but yeah sure theres a fail point just like a weld on bracket.

[@wrm787]

The things the shop DOES NOT tell you when you get your 4Runner lifted. Glad I stumbled on this video!! What did you do to the ABS line afterwards?

[@americanmade422]

When you go over a bump and your rear end hops to one side... you'll know you need to correct it. I ran without one for a while, definitely not something you want to go without. It's sketchy on wet roads and snow/ice. You want to get diff drop kits as well.

[@thegiant573]

@Dirtlifestyle will give you more than you ever wanted to know about geometry of suspensions.

[@dariomonteagudogandulla3833]

Greetings..I congratulate you for the very accurate level of explanation. I did the same job approximately 2 weeks ago and it was like you, 1/4 of an inch on the other side, the same as yours....as you did or as you have it configured at the moment, the truth is that it is frustrating for me because I don't see the correction even though others may have achieved it, since not many videos are published about the results, only the installations that are done on different vehicles.....if you managed to compensate the two sides as it should be, I am referring to the same measurement on both sides, please let me know if it is of interest to you, thank you very much

[@anthonyhitchings1051]

Good job on lignting the word

[@brianwalp3989]

Looks like you have an adjustable rear trac bar so what is your need to add the relocation kit?

[@5G4R]

Just put a DRKDSS BOTBCK yesterday!

[@OverlandEngineer]

Haha awesome!

[@juliuscafe]

NOT Anti Seize USE LOCTITE YOU DO WANA POP THAT BOLTS OUT IN LONG RUN..:)

[@OverlandEngineer]

Bolts have loctite already here in the Midwest it’s called corrosion and rust.

[@ReimerKeith]

I don't think the issue is with the center of the panhard bar, as much as the angle of the panhard bar. If the panhard bar is set at an angle rather than level, then when you extend the rear suspension, you end up with a side-to-side component as the panhard rotates around the frame mount. When the panhard is level, flexing is almost entirely vertical.

[@OverlandEngineer]

Yeah I’d agree, but I guess both are factors.

[@dizzle.1983]

This guy is using that fast track membership like no other

[@vorsol1994]

Solid video, I always try to keep up with your content. Ordered up that kit. Install asap.... thanks!

[@OverlandEngineer]

Sweet! I appreciate that!

[@kingbetong8741]

Will it the frame when offroading or when flexing

[@viboldsok]

I'm just wondering, wouldn't you also want lower the passenger side a bit as well instead of extending the driver side more to level out the panhandle bar so it would handle bit closer to stock. Then again i guess that why we have bump stops to limit it from going to far and bottoming out. i just feel like if you do it to one side you should also do it to the other.

[@1Coolbanana]

Wow, made a really simple job into something complicated! Really should have just followed the instructions, especially with the tightening sequence which you got all wrong.

[@OverlandEngineer]

Not sure why that matters and not sure why I made it more complicated…

[@nismo370z4]

Tool hint - you're using cordless impacts, not drills !!

[@OverlandEngineer]

Haha oops, force of habit I guess

[@MRLEE-of5fj]

Thanks dad!

[@migrnroverland]

Question? It looks like you have an adjustable Panhard bar? So why would you still need a relocation kit ?

[@drkdss8742]

Because that only takes care of centering the axle. The geometry is not corrected. You can correct both with putting the BOTCK on. And yes you can use a stock oem trac bar.

[@stevejordan9567]

Thanks for the information.

[@chipper3722]

Hey Zach, thank you for the how to. I have the kit and am going to install next chance I get. One question I have that no one seems to cover is what did you do to reattach the ABS line? In all the videos I've watched, everyone removes it from the bracket but nobody shows how they secure it after installation. Any advice would be appreciated.

[@OverlandEngineer]

Yeah I had this problem as well…I removed the clip and zip tied it to the brake like there so it would stay away from any arms and the spring…I have no idea if this is best or right but it’s what I did. A quick message to DrKDSS would probably solve this.

[@chipper3722]

​@@OverlandEngineer great, thank you for the response. I did send a message on the Dr. KDSS website asking them for the recommendation and I'll update you if/when I get a response.

[@chipper3722]

Wow! He emailed right back within a minute :-) He said that is correct - just zip tie it to the brake line. Hope this helps everyone!

[@MichaelKeelphotography]

Stupid question. So having the trac bar adjusted to straight will be ok? Because when loaded up for trips, won't the right side Trac bar then angle down to the right a bit, or is that no big deal?

[@OverlandEngineer]

No it's a smart question. I think it probably comes down to where do you want your baseline to be. In theory recalibrating it for if you have a really heavy load would be better but not necessarily required. How I think about it is it should be about level when under normal weight and the suspension is at steady state (no pre-load and not overloaded). Then if you are overloading it or under-loading it, you are just taking away from the up or down travel but the track bar is still set up for ideal geometry either way. Did that make any sense haha....?

[@MichaelKeelphotography]

@@OverlandEngineer gotcha, thank you. Just curious, because I just set mine up, and it's straight, level. Wasn't sure if this would be a problem, when I load up 220 - 230lbs etc. Do about 2 to 4 offroading trips a year.

[@nx1z]

So, what are your thoughts on a bumper replacement with tilt-outs?

[@OverlandEngineer]

What do you mean? Sorry I don’t understand

[@nx1z]

@@OverlandEngineer sorry. I don’t think you have a rear bumper with wheel carriers, etc. we’re you thinking of going that route ?

[@kinesiumlegaspi3322]

this is very helpfull...i noticed you are using TM baja boss at...how's the winter performance?

[@OverlandEngineer]

Thanks! They are amazing. I love them specifically for on and Offroad snow performance

[@DeafeningPew]

Great video. I missed this on my ARB 3” lift… I’ll likely buy this kit to correct some geometry. Will I need to get an alignment after this?

[@OverlandEngineer]

Nope! The rear axle is all aligned. Anytime you get an alignment it’s just on the front. An Offroad alignment might include rear adjustable control arms but normal shops won’t touch them.

[@DeafeningPew]

@@OverlandEngineer Nice. As soon as these come back in stock I’ll be placing my order. Thanks for the info!

[@OverlandEngineer]

@@DeafeningPew no problem!

[@mariormarin7514]

What if you have KDSS how will that affect this install

[@OverlandEngineer]

Not a KDSS expert but Dr.KDSS the guy that sells these is and he has great customer service. Just contact him and he likely sells anything else you would need to do this.

[@jancantor4560]

Do you need to do a re-alignment after installing the kit?

[@dundeeecroc]

IRONMAN and other Australian companies make adjustable track bars.

[@OverlandEngineer]

What’s your point

[@pennmikael]

What is max lift before requiring this?

[@OverlandEngineer]

I mean it’s a gradient…it just gets worse the more lift you add

[@billchristo7894]

Great video. Can that bracket be used with the OEM track bar? Or will it kick wheels out to wrong positions? 3” lift on my rig, (Toytec Aluma Boss)

[@ohjeep76]

I believe the oem bar is what it is truly designed for. I will be installing this bracket with the same setup you have

[@OverlandEngineer]

It should work well with a stock panhard bar length. Don’t need to use the particular bar if you want to run an aftermarket one or an adjustable one.

[@jdown86]

Hey Zach, I am interested in getting a set of the mickey thompsons like yours and was wondering how are you liking them, how are they in the rain and snow, also how is the road noise? Appreciate the info thanks

[@OverlandEngineer]

They are the best tire I’ve ran. They do well in snow and I think good enough in rain, haven’t tested them too much in rain…they do well Offroad as well and look more agressive than all the other ATs. These are the Baja Boss ATs to be clear. Love them!

[@josecastro2630]

So I just got my 4runner lofted, did kings new dobinson uppers and rear springs. The shop adjusted the kings to equal length but when I got it back I had the Toyota lean on it. My question is, should that be normal on a brand new vehicle and new suspension? The shop said they can’t guarantee their work because I went over the one week guarantee. Another shop said it’s normal and I should add a trim packer, any ideas If this is true?

[@OverlandEngineer]

Definitely normal, people put in lean spacers. Also some springs are softer than others so my 4Runner will lean in the rear pretty easily depending on the amount of gas in the tank. If you really bothers you maybe setting the kings to be stiff on the side of the lean could help but hard to avoid it

[@thomassanio8745]

Well done and well explained Zach. I am doing a minimal lift, 1.5-1.6” so will measure the level of my track bar before and after lift, and of course centering of rear axle. In speaking to the manufacturer of a competitor’s well on unit, he says only necessary at 2.4” or more of lift, but will do my measurements. Question: I see two holes on the height the track bar can be bolted in at, what amount of lift is for the lower hole? Thanks again.

[@OverlandEngineer]

It’s for extended travel minimal lift kits people do. I don’t completely understand it but I think there are aftermarket control arms and other things that people install to get travel but no lift and that helps correct for more travel. I think the lower one is basically for aftermarket suspension that’s less than 2.5” lift

[@thomassanio8745]

Thanks for this 👍

[@scoobysid04]

I’m doing a westscott sspacer lift for 285s on my 22 4Runner pro. Would I need to do this as well?

[@DADVNTRS]

Thanks for the video does this apply to all 4Runner models or only ones with KDSS?

[@Oberonbob]

All

[@tuckerhiggins4336]

What is the jacket you have?

[@OverlandEngineer]

The navy one? It’s an Eddie Bauer clearance rack jacket haha. Don’t even know the model. Got it for like $40 at the end of winter season in Silverthorne, CO at the outlets there.

[@tuckerhiggins4336]

@@OverlandEngineer bro get me one next time, that is a nice deal

[@--RSL--]

I bought the correction kit never knew about it. Uca’s are unnecessary for lifts 3” and under. Waste of money

[@Pharmerbarry]

did you really need to even lift the car?

[@OverlandEngineer]

Yes

[@drkdss8742]

No actually you don’t at all. I install it with jack stands yo allow more head space. It’s best to have it on its own weight.

[@robertpyles9289]

The the teal colored tool you're using isn't called a drill, it's called a battery powered impact wrench/impact gun! Please learn the names for your tools.