This Star Wars: Battlefront DRAMA just got SO much WORSE...

[@100StarWars]

Star Wars games really can't catch a break lately, it just goes from bad to worse. When will we get back to the 2000s golden age...? Come follow me on TwitterX for the latest updates on the KOTOR Remake and all things Star Wars! - twitter.com/100PerStarWars

[@jarrodedson5441]

We never will unfortunately, modern gaming sucks, idk...why don't u tell us when we're gonna get a good star wars game

[@a.b.s.anonymousbastardofso9459]

Well, the early 2000's were a time when the franchise wasn't creatively bankrupt because Legends was always pushing the boundaries for new stories, content, games, etc. So since DISNEY retconned Legends and it's been years since they fumbled the sequels and having started stealing fan art for Star Wars ships to put in the new comics, I'd say... NEVER.

[@bransolo9469]

Definitely never gonna happen again. All we can do is keep our golden age even if we have to buy it back again from retro game stores. It's ridiculous that gaming companies always resort to release now, fix later and anything to do with multiplayer and remastering classics resort to only making money for doing less than before. I'd say star wars games died when Disney bought the franchise even though we have very few like the Jedi series. Still would like to get good star wars games again, even if they are based off the legends stories or even Canon like any of the comics.

[@mhiv466]

It's a golden age for a reason... tge period will be known as the dark age of sw games and media as a whole.

[@AkiraStrix94]

We won't get back to it as long as backlash like this keeps coming about. I'd say you're not putting out the fire that's there, you're just helping fuel it.

[@Alex-pk1iy]

Fun fact: this games’ download size is larger than Elden Ring. Does this new Aspyr team know what compression is?!

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

love how people say it's the upscaled 4k textures, like not even native hd textures but just AI upscaled

[@austinkamp8048]

You can't just compress textures like that, that's not how it works, but also the game is 20 years old and it wouldn't take much extra data to upscale to even 1080p let alone 4k

[@sagenebula7120]

I think the sad part is the skyboxes are literally the only big difference, the steam version on max settings looks almost the same as the collection version

[@clancykohl]

@@austinkamp8048well the increase of data for up-scaling pictures (wich textures essentially are of course) is quadratic. So depending how big those textures were back in the day, the increase can be substantial. Like 4 times bigger textures, ends you up with 16 times as much data.

[@OriginalUnjustifier]

​@@austinkamp8048 It's also the fact that due to game dev hiring practices, no one can sit in a job long enough to become a 'master' in their field, thus we end up with games built by an endless swarm of middling talents. I still remember hearing about the Gen 2 Pokemon games running into space issues during development, only for Satoru Iwata himself to show up and optimize the hell out of the code. The actual effects of said optimization have been claimed to be either allowing Kanto to be re-added to the game, or over doubling the load speed of sprites from around 100 frames, to 42. Either way, the experience was greatly enhanced because someone who knew what they were doing got involved. So when I hear that a PS2 era game is being remastered, only to find the file size has ballooned to nearly 10x the original file-size... well, that screams to me that the developers are either completely incompetent, they've packaged some form of malicious software with the game, or they simply don't understand the concept of optimization and I don't want their buggy mess on my machine. That's without getting into the actual gameplay and stability of the multiplayer servers, or the allegations that EA has stolen code from a modder.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

There's actually a mod that genuinely remasters BF2. Just get that instead.

[@Real_RPGgaming]

What’s it called? Can you maybe send me the link?

[@route77productions]

It's not even worth buying. PC and Xbox can just get the original versions. Sure, PS and Nintendo have no other choice but Battlefront on PC can run even on a potato of a PC.

[@Real_RPGgaming]

@@route77productions he’s talking about for the original games on pc

[@Perceval777]

@@Real_RPGgaming Battlefront 2 Remastered by the modder Harrisonfog. There is also a mod called Battlefront 2 Remaster by a modder called Anakin which fixes the menu resolution and makes it HD. They're on ModDB.

[@specterkev]

You assume everyone would be playing this on pc

[@LJ-qq8lx]

I was actually sad for Aspyr after the KOTOR Remake stuff... but this? Nah - Fuck em.

[@thedoomslayer108_YT]

Aypsr canceled the Restored Content DLC for KOTOR that was promised with their trailers due to legal reasons.

[@wolfdragox5563]

⁠​⁠@@thedoomslayer108_YT it was their choice to promote their game with that mod before getting legal permission to use it on their product tho

[@thedoomslayer108_YT]

@@wolfdragox5563 It's too bad Aypsr lied and did not work with the mod creator to release the Restored Content DLC. I rather have Nightdive Studios remastering more classic Star Wars games after their work on Dark Forces Remastered.

[@ad3mn]

Their Tomb Raider remaster was great.

[@wolfdragox5563]

@@ad3mn i have the feeling all their budget went into that remaster and the BF collection was a side project made only to get a quick buck

[@billkozac7974]

Every single thing we were told about this generation of consoles was a lie yet nobody talks about it. There's only a handful of current gen games 3 and a half years in...

[@dawsynasay4841]

This generation was never going to be a powerhouse. Video games peaked technically speaking during the PS4/One generation.

[@ximthedespot4673]

This is why I use a PC. I can play games as well as do my taxes.

[@Pandaman94]

Well hang on a second there. The Next Gen of games was SUPPOSED to be 2021 cause 2020 was gonna be the turn but after covid EVERYTHING was pushed back and shut down that simple detail could have potentially pushed everything back years and years. Honestly 4 years later makes a Ton of sense. It wasn't just video games it was Everything. They told the truth but in order to fix the fuck up that was covid they started pushing everyone to work harder which in turn churned out total garbage ports and bad video games all around and then with the Nonsense wokeness bullshit behind the wheel it made ok games even Worse. There are alot of contributing factors as to why everything is so behind in the Next generation of games.

[@bradador1]

@@ximthedespot4673and wank to what ever strokes your bloke

[@LucaGibson-r1d]

I thought it was common knowledge that most big titles will most likely release for PS6/ Xbox Series Whatever Next As this gen is akin to the 360 or the PS3 with backward compatibility for the PS5 and Xbox series X/S coming for the next console For example, next red dead redemption, Witcher, god of war will most likely be on next consoles

[@PAINBRINGER]

So they did indeed steal this modders work, claim it was an error, and forgot to update the final game to hide their tracks till after release.

[@Jennifer-xo9js]

Good sum up

[@PAINBRINGER]

@@Jennifer-xo9jsYeah. Here's hoping they ever address it and credit the mod's creator. They have clearly used his work as a basis for the dlc content in the collection.

[@MrJedi20]

They couldn't even do the work themselves and had to use someone else's. Just plain sad.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

lol "use" nice joke

[@MrJedi20]

@@MGrey-qb5xz use was a poor choice. I meant steal.

[@robertogurrola7465]

They clearly did do their own work. They probably just used the mod as a place holder and didn't delete all the files before launch. It was fine on all other consoles showing it was never intended to be left behind.

[@qwefg3]

Damaged single player, broken multiplayer, massive file size... And then on the cherry on top stealing credit from others and doing a worse job with it.

[@Mikito456]

How is the Singe Player damaged? Also Ventress has been using her DLC weapon, and not Secura's since launch. At least on PlayStation.

[@Lichtenhammer]

Also, while this may not mean much to English-speaking players, the original release had full audio not just in English, but also in French, German, Spanish and Italian. Why are those audio files missing, surely they can't take up that much space?

[@Only1199]

I don't see how any publisher can look at Aspyr and the controversies that followed the company and think yeah let's do business with them, let's let them work on our games.

[@alpha34098]

Disney simply don't care about these games since all of them are from the Legends Continuity that the want to get rid in favor of their sequels. Not to mention that Aspyr 's parent company is simply too powerful for its own goodk

[@wolfdragox5563]

@@alpha34098 you mean embracer? bc they’re falling apart already

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

cheap, publishers only see a ratio not potential income

[@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361]

All they have to do is bid cheaper than the others. How licenses get farmed out is bonkers. Whoever says they can make a game on the lowest budget is given the rights.

[@Kjertinge]

It’s actually insane to realize they released a finished game unfinished.

[@the_revanchistlegion]

Wow…what an absolute embarrassment. I can’t believe Aspyr fumbled _this_ badly on a game that was released almost 20 years ago. I’d request a refund if Sony’s refund policy wasn’t so goddamn terrible.

[@jamese3114]

Aspyr is dogshit. What’s unbelievable is how anyone is genuinely surprised by this

[@michu3763]

And 3 years ago, Aspyr was called the perfect candidate to create a remake of Kotor. Many were saying that they had assembled the perfect team for this and that it was a pity that they lost this project. It turns out they maybe lost this for a good reason.

[@sub-zero_]

why is it terrible, I want a refund on ps4?

[@jediflip2515]

​@@jamese3114 agreed. All of the Star Wars games they've ported to Switch have been shitshow attempts. How this dev team hasn't been dissolved is beyond me. Can't find a more incompetent developer

[@edroseptic9442]

@@sub-zero_because they won’t grant a refund if the game has been downloaded. Like.. how are supposed to know it’s faulty if you don’t download it?? I just argued with the guy on the phone. So dumb

[@RageBoxMan]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we found out Aspyr was on the list at Jeffrey Epstein's island.

[@WeedShaggy]

That would be hilarious ngl 😂

[@crunchberries6328]

Seriously though fuck em 😂

[@benmccarthy1799]

No epstein only brought people who were important and popular.

[@FatherOMalley]

well Aspyr works for Bobby Boy Iger and guess whose name showed up on the list...

[@texoo4463]

wtf

[@MemeBusterP4013]

How did they fuck up so bad? This shit made me so disappointed it inspired me to make a video about it.

[@100StarWars]

Hey at least it sparked your creativity lol

[@Shiver_Bane]

Disney killed it in theaters and now Aspyr and EA are trying to kill SW in gaming. Somebody really hates this franchise if the number of ppl who reject Star Wars is greater than the paying fan base. The gap between half-ass products and good ones is ridiculous.

[@Erick-ji6hw]

Star Wars media in general went downhill after Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney

[@xxcaptninjaxx4301]

@@Erick-ji6hw yep Disney Star Wars is trash and episode 1-6/EU is real Star Wars

[@Erick-ji6hw]

@@xxcaptninjaxx4301 we would’ve gotten better Star Wars games to like 1313, first assault etc

[@DamianHowardTV]

That’s okay.. Nothing Disney has done with franchise is considered canon, as far as I’m concerned anyway. George’s STAR WARS is the one and ONLY STAR WARS. Okay, I can make some allowances for certain Disney Lucasfilm content but I could count all that on one hand, honestly. The Skywalker Saga began with Ep. I: The Phantom Menace and ended with Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi. And no amount of Disney Lucasfilm bullshit pandering or telling me “this is canon” or “that is canon”, will change that.

[@Shiver_Bane]

​@@DamianHowardTV Don't forget the Extented Univers; KotoR, Darth Bane and such came from that part of the SW lore. It may not have been of George Lucas' original concept but he accepted it and it'll be more canon than anything with a Disney logo slapped on it.

[@Henez89]

Such an easy win. Make these run, include online (ideally cross-platform) multiplayer, then bask in the money and good will. In the alternate universe where everything isn't shit, this game kicked ass, took off, and passionate devs added a bunch of content as dlc because with these graphics you could churn out the whole galaxy so easily.

[@Mediados]

"Wanna see a magic trick?" *umasters Battlefront*

[@100StarWars]

LMAO

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Aspyr managed to go from well respected to gaming pariahs in 2 years. Impressive speedrun!

[@DarthDevorin]

In the words of Jar Jar Binks: "Dis embarrassing!"

[@loowisk1113]

There's probably some dirty business manager in Aspyr who has absolutely no clue but just wants money and KPI's achieving who's pulling these strings.

[@TapeBandit12]

I remember reading through the legal agreement for BF classic collection that you have to agree with before starting the game saying that all mods are legally allowed to be used for the game or something like that. So basically Aspyre thought ahead so they could steal other people's mods and say they legally own them anyways. I might be wrong, so if I am please let me know.

[@1992zorro]

it's important to verify and investigate this

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

maybe english isn't their first language

[@nestorgamer9746]

​@@1992zorroit's not unprecedented, Blizzard did the same thing with Warcraft 3 Reforged

[@Arithial]

I doubt such a thing will stand in court. From what I've seen, when it comes to such things, eulas are validated for lawfulness and sections are rendered invalid and not under consideration for the lawsuit, if they are found unlawful in some cases(from the cases I've researched, things like "I retain ownership of everything you do with my stuff" tend to be striken out, even if they are not relevant to the case). Mods are a legal nightmare, because things like custom models, textures, sounds and etc(that aren't built on original stuff, that got expanded/upgraded) tend to belong to their creators, with the rest of the mod being usually another massive gray area. 99% of the eulas out there are technically illegal as they break both eu and us rules and regulations in multiple sections. Bethesda quickly learned their lesson with the whole "paid mods" v1, via the steam workshop and even altered their EULAs to expressly push ownership to the modders, because of what legal nightmare it is.

[@monthis_lives]

@@Arithial I doubt they'd bother with the EULA. If EA took this to court they probably go after copyright infringement since mods are a derivative work. Sure, when you make something you're granted a copyright but if the infringement is granted that the will nullify the copyright. And from there EA could then take ownership since it is a derivative of the original. But I doubt that would happen unless they wanted to make an example of someone as they mods are drumming up sales of the original product.

[@DMBLaan]

With SW Battlefront specifically, I can't help but feel like there's a story behind why it came out like this beyond it was rushed. But maybe that's the same feeling other people get when something "too big" to have a mundane explanation happens. Only time will tell.

[@jarrodedson5441]

Something tells me there not gonna fix the glitches in offline and add the cut stuff out of the story mode

[@Bulbasaur617]

Looks like it. But if they do, then I guess that's 1 form of redemption we get with Aspyr's release of this game collection.

[@jarrodedson5441]

​@Bulbasaur617 I'd it though? They've been doing this same Shtick for a while

[@Kross415]

People need to learn to stop pre-ordering and wait for a couple days to see if a game is trash or not.

[@spookzer16]

While I generally agree, I do think the Classic Collection is different. Mainly because people knew the content they were getting. People already knew the game is good. I personally thought the game would be rough at launch, but Aspyr far passed my expectations.

[@Kross415]

@@spookzer16 I get what you mean but we've had MANY remakes and the like be garbage, a game that used to be good doesn't guarantee a good remake.

[@ClonserHalphalive]

I generally agree as well. I only pre-order from one company and that would be Fromsoft with their Souls games (and it's been only a few exceptions on actually pre-ordering, maybe up to 3 instances with Fromsoft). I have not once felt dissatisfied with them, even with the infamous ds2. Any other time and I wait until after release and I can see some videos of gameplay to judge it for myself and would greatly recommend this to anyone.

[@Fenrakk101]

It's true that modders can't sell their mods commercially or anything, but it's not true that developers/publishers automatically own mods and can use them however they want. The clearest example of this being Blizzard putting clauses to that effect in their latest EULAs because they're still mad about not owning Defense of the Ancients.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

i think only eu would defend a customer on this, the usa system would just take a bribe and flip the bird to the consumer

[@100StarWars]

Indeed, but the original Battlefront had a clause in the EULA that did exactly that. They could take your mod and do whatever tf they wanted to do with it without credit.

[@ExpertContrarian]

@@100StarWars those agreements don’t mean anything

[@Mixi_Hazbin]

​@100StarWars an EULA can't over write laws, and mods belong to their creators since they made it and if it's doesn't contain anything from the game no compqny has anything to stand on for it.

[@100StarWars]

But it does contain assets from the game... including the models.

[@matthewwylie2735]

Honestly this whole situation got me into playing Star Wars Battlefront again... the steam versions I mean. Each $10, go on sale pretty regularly, and have complete experiences with functioning multiplayer. 2 actually has a few active servers as of recently and they were pretty fun. Might try modding 2 again for the heck of it, something else that's hard to do on the new collection. I honestly do feel really sorry for console users that this collection is the only way to play the Battlefront duology. They deserve better and these games deserve better for the legacy they have.

[@mazkeraid4039]

To give credit where credit is due, at least the originals did not get delisted.

[@et60mm]

Luckily if you have an Xbox One or Xbox Series X both battlefront games, and a lot of 2000s Star Wars games can be played officially through backwards compatibility. And they even patched in the old dlc which is awesome.

[@brandonbarrett4584]

If it was a single botched release or misunderstanding, then fine, i could understand that. Mistakes happen and nobody's perfect. But seeing that this has happened REPEATEDLY, and the fact that the company is now outright lying about stealing from a modder like this... Yeah, I'll be actively looking for Aspyr's name on things I buy and avoiding it.

[@MadEyesMcCrory]

Modder doesn't own anything, it's Disney's IP

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

their no such thing as a botched release , what you think this is some school project

[@higueraft571]

​​@@MadEyesMcCrory Doesnt matter, credit or it's your ass,

[@higueraft571]

​@@MGrey-qb5xzApparently it is

[@mechadeka]

​@@MGrey-qb5xz?????? What is this take??????????

[@richardschneider7629]

If the Rogue Squadron games get a remaster, I hope it's Nightdive instead of Aspyr

[@AstroBlakeD]

how bout we just dont? leave our fond memories alone cause no one can make a fucking 20 year old game work

[@nestorgamer9746]

​@@AstroBlakeDbecause Dark Forces worked very well

[@mechadeka]

​@AstroBlakeD Plenty of 20 year old games get competent re-releaaes. And the latter two Rogue Squadron games are still virtually un-emulatable.

[@SkitSkat8008]

Star Wars truly is a lost cause nowadays. We can't have any good stuff

[@jamessalmon5109]

Starwars has been terrible since 1999

[@SkitSkat8008]

@@jamessalmon5109 oh shut the fuck up dude no one asked you

[@jb44448]

Yeah, now I see why Aspyr got taken off of KOTOR remake. What they had done was probably garbage if they're doing the sort of thing. We'd have kotor by now if it wasn't given to them.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Well, tbf, most people working on the remake left. Hence the issues with the restored content mod for KOTOR 2 - the people left at Aspyr clearly just don’t care about KOTOR or Star Wars.

[@Tuesdayz]

the thumbnail for this video has more effort put into it than the main menu for the classic collection 😂

[@100StarWars]

:D

[@Calam_and_Joshua]

The gaming industry as a whole is so disappointing at the moment this was the first game I pre-ordered in years and i refunded it after played 30 minutes of this game, the future of gaming is bleak

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

Nah, Arrowhead is awesome rn

[@BeyondDaX]

​@@Ashy_Slashy3 For now, they will disappoint everyone like all companies

[@corvusabaddon]

Lol "gaming industry as a whole". I can tell you don't play indie games.

[@Zapatozi]

How can you refund? I pre-ordered it too.

[@fedricojgarza464]

that why i don't do pre-order games most of they have Issus 0,.0

[@NetoJ0N]

The question is how they can release a game this old with so much problems, its a company that needs to go bankrupt

[@shinyrayquaza9]

rockstar moment, I still can't believe people defend this mess and claim "oh its day one they can fix stuff" also companies will usually remove fan made stolen content when pointed out so there is most likely some repercussions, I do know that even if its an ip's thing, the effort was still yours under copywright, just cant sell it

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

pretty sure those are just employees and the average redditor, no normal person would want 35 bucks to be a disappointment.

[@TapeBandit12]

The starfighter controls are straight up poodoo. Default Helen Keller controls 🛸🙈🙉🙊

[@Jasonv65]

Sadly they removed inverted controls from the controller options. Why?!?!

[@wordlesslfiddling]

I'm pretty glad aspyr isn't working on kotor anymore

[@miloanderson4359]

Man, they took the “just ctrl-c and ctrl-p it” memo literally

[@noderunner_]

I'm going to stick to Nightdive for my retro re-releases. They're not perfect but they've never fumbled as bad as Aspyr.

[@McNyloLT]

I saw Aspyr was actually hiring and I was thinking of applying because I still had faith in them, but after this whole situation, I’m glad I didn’t even try

[@BlackbirdProductions-vv8er]

This should be a sign that indie creators and modders should start their own gaming companies. They would have more care and passion for their games, than most AAA companies.

[@samsmith5745]

Re-releasing a finished game and making it unfinished is never a good look. It's just disappointing they think so little of us that they thought this would work.

[@jon....]

I know you've said before that Aspyr was restructured for the Kotor remake, and am wondering if the people they brought on for that project are still at the company. Was the team that made this port really the team that was working on Kotor?

[@100StarWars]

No, not at all. Most of the people working on the Remake left.

[@natesturm448]

I know someone who used to work at Aspyr, they quit about half a year ago, and they still have a few friends that work there. Spoke with him the other day and apparently Aspyr's stocks have dropped quite a bit. Now I don't believe Aspyr has formal open stocks but I do know that every company has someone holding the stock value. Be that the owner(s) or financial executives or other higher up types. But it still stands either way. Aspyr has basically unlocked their own coffin by this whole fiasco.

[@Pieguy3OO]

It’s pretty baffling too considering Aspyr has done great work on the Switch ports of Jedi Knight II and The Force Unleashed. Tomb Raider I-III remastered was a huge success. Why does SWBF get the shaft? 😢

[@et60mm]

Force Unleashed on the Switch is awesome. I 100% it and got every Holocron. I always liked the Wii version of the game more, I have every version for the other consoles though so I’m not completely biased haha.

[@bon7029]

They basically cut the udders off the cash cow and are wondering why it's not producing milk.

[@georgelooney6826]

Aspyre is a company that services customers. It IS a requirement to conduct your company to be accountable and acknowledge all involvement of a project - not like a highschool paper where can plagiarise a bit here and a bit there... From a consumer POV i see Aspyre being ran with a "eh should be alright" attitude.

[@lancepharker]

Work is still work, even if you make something built on top of someone else's work, what you did is still yours. You might not be able to profit off of it since it requires the original, but neither can the owner of the IP. If they want to use it, they need to get your permission. What this tends to boil down to is if the 2 parties fight, no one gets the additional work.

[@agilitypop6859]

All they had to do was add some new features to gameplay, tweak bugs, and redo graphics similar to the remaster on dead space but apparently somehowww.. no?

[@Xion_Toshiro]

Well - at least there's Classic & Remastered versions of Battlefront 1 & 2, sold separately as digital, on sale at times - not exactly the 2 Classics bundled together; but still

[@Zimzilla99]

This is so disheartening

[@antfr1993]

What was different about what the moder did with the kit fisto and ventress characters? The original pc version released in 2005 that had those characters exclusively had protiles that look exactly the same as the modded version and the collection classic. So what did they change that made it their own original work? Old videos from 15+ year ago looks not much different from the mod.

[@et60mm]

Stuff like this isn’t new from Aspyr which is why I was wary about the collection. Republic Commando on the switch has been bugged for a few years since it was released. Randomly the camera will just stop moving when you’re aiming and you’ll have to do a 360 degrees rotation the opposite direction to fix it. That might not seem like a big deal but it will happen in the middle of a firefight and then you’re dead.

[@torahouse2006]

Shocking? Nope. It's the state of the gaming industry that's shocking and the fact that people are STILL pre-purchasing their shitty products.

[@bend7726]

People have been saying for years never pre order games yet its still happening constantly

[@regisgaming]

I realized quickly that I dodged a bullet by not pre ordering this game. Now I'm finding out that I actually dodged an artillery shell. Jesus.

[@Speedy2332]

The Tomb Raider trilogy remaster only came out 1 month ago. I highly suspect that there just wasn't enough manpower to properly remaster the Battlefront games at Asypre and that's why we were left with what we got.

[@PoweredByFlow]

I hope for a big apology update which doesn't just fix the technical issues but also adds in stuff like 4 Player Splittscreen (also playing online in Splittscreen), proper mod support and so on.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

apology for what, they don't even want you owning your games as in for personal or streaming use, literally their bitch

[@primalfire7689]

Every except the mod part is possible. Trying to make the game moddable for console will probably be a real hassle to get even working for the most part. But that just my thoughts about it.

[@PoweredByFlow]

@@primalfire7689 Ofcourse, i was refering to the PC version anyway in regards of modsupport. The way i can see them ppossible if they do it like Bethesda wwith only selected mods onn console, but i don't think they would deem it worth the hassle for these games.

[@primalfire7689]

@@PoweredByFlow knowing that coding can be a tough thing to work with at times yeah it probably wouldn’t be worth it

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@primalfire7689 well they are wrong

[@maboilaurence8227]

Friendly reminder Aspyr never fixed the Switch version of Kotor despite promising multiple times they would.

[@et60mm]

They also never fixed the aiming bug for the Switch version of Republic Commando. And it was only introduced after they released a patch for the game for something else.

[@masonhall3617]

The amount of times Aspyr has failed to so much as deliver on something related to a simple remaster has convinced me that them losing the KotOR remake is the best thing that could have happened to that game. This is just getting ridiculous.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

aspyr are just employees, you know publishers own everything right?

[@masonhall3617]

@MGrey-qb5xz and that's entirely irrelevant. Developers do the actual work, and Aspyr has proven time and again they're a crap develooer.

[@mr.sniffles7268]

Just want to weigh in on the "Disney owns fan projects" conversation. This is a misconception. While Disney owns the trademarks for the star wars brand and copyrights for games, movies, stories, and characters they created or licensed, they do NOT own fan projects. Explaining this goes beyond the scope of a simple youtube comment, but basically, they do not have the right to sease things like the code for mods, fan made assets, est. This is why studios like disney and nintendo shut down fan projects instead of taking them over. If Aspyr used code or assets from a moder without permission, they could absolutely get sued. I really hope that doesn't happen, though. If mods can cause legal trouble, I think studios would respond by taking down fan projects even more aggressively than they already do

[@spsswanny]

Is that not what Aspyr said. They used the mod in beta. So the mod files would still be in the build. An example would be when MW2 was being made they had more guns, which are still on file, but aren’t in the games anymore

[@dreemurrprince]

Thats cool, but the switch release used the mods to function those heroes the way they worked, so that doesn’t add up. All the glitches remained and were used for the mod, its very obviously just using their work and lying about it

[@rohansampat1995]

"ohhh its a money grab"... that was obvious day 1. When they chagred me 10x what i can get the original game for.

[@Mage-mc7mz]

I’ve played the og Xbox version and the switch version and I did not notice any difference between the animations for fisto or ventress.

[@chadgaming8288]

Well dang, I’m loving the game so far, reliving the AMOUNT of nostalgia that I’m feeling. But, I didn’t know about that Aspyr lied about using the mods for Kit Fisto and Asajj Ventress. THAT IS pretty bad.

[@Ashin-Jast]

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." -Obi-wan looking over the Aspir offices.

[@ZettXXII]

This is even worse than the GTA trilogy "remake". And again they steal and profit from mods made by people far more talented and far less compensated for their contribution to the community.

[@nopenoperton249]

Please represent us Split Screen enjoyers! I had my siblings over to play this with me, and we couldn't make it work. Not only is it limited to 2-Player Split Screen, but we weren't even able to sign in a second player on XB1. WE NEED 4 PLAYER SPLIT SCREEN! IT ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.

[@rayl6901]

Here's the thing: why do we "need" to buy new versions of products we have bought in the past? Because they don't work anymore?!? Think about it - what a bad reason to support this! Shouldn't there be an accountability that products will continue to work? I know that I may be in the minority expecting something that I purchase actually work out of the box (so to speak; not that anything is in a box anymore - it's just a digital download) AND be in perfect working condition for many years - perhaps even into perpetuity. It just goes to show how groomed we are that software isn't in any way 'owned' by one who purchases it (as we have been forced to go to the license model and paying a monthly fee in a lot of cases just to use a product that they intentionally cripple with updates so that you have to buy the latest version). Now I know that is more a commentary on the whole software industry rather than this specific game, but honestly, if you have the games already and enjoy modifying them etc, why buy any remake? Shouldn't said remakes be free to those owners? Finally, don't get me started on who actually 'owns' Star Wars and how that company has totally disrespected anything that has come before; not to mention their reprehensible grooming tactics of innocents. I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about. I think as fans, we are going to have to be happy with what we have already, and actively boycott all of the garbage that is being put out these days. Let those whose ears are open, hear!

[@jibril2473]

Idk why anyone would trust them after the stunt they pulled with Kotor II

[@Marnie_C]

Unauthorized code is something Aspyr doesn't want to mess with. I know the usual stance is "the modder was using the star wars IP so they have no rights" but code falls under a different copyright. Famously, developer Silicon Knights was ordered by the court to destroy all unsold copies of their game Too Human because it was found they had traces of unauthorized Unreal Engine's code in their engine. Using someone else's code without credit and payment is a serious thing as many companies consider it intellectual property

[@E.L.Tigre32]

Aspyre dropped the ball at the worst possible time, when Star Wars fans REALLY needed a good game to boost their confidence. Let's pray Ubisoft doesn't mess up outlaws too bad

[@steel5897]

Ubisoft games are 7/10 slop, they're usually never catastrophically bad. That Avatar game might be a 8/10 even.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

@@steel5897 Skull and Bones 🤦 That’s a Ubiflop.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Honestly, considering how this game’s gone radio silent after seeing a lot of gameplay that doesn’t really fill me with hope. 🤷‍♂️ Like did they spend all their dev time making a really good vertical slice to show off but forgot to make an actual game???

[@et60mm]

Might just be me but I was so bummed when EA announced the Respawn Star Wars single player fps game was getting cancelled. I love single player Star Wars games and a new fps seemed awesome to me. I still though grieve the loss of 1313.

[@mkcstealth7624]

It's amazing to me how we went from the pinnacle in quality in the LucasArts days to completely dropping the ball throughout the EA era

[@wadedewell]

They dont even have inverted y axis controls option which has been standard for 2 decades and even the og battlfronts had it

[@debartellomartinez7214]

I said hey, let me explain something to you brother.

[@willisskull2676]

Pros: Better graphics. Cons: Huge download, battles too short, failing to reload in, very few servers, private servers super glitchy, and content included from unpaid and uncredited sources. Just when I thought it couldn't be a worse release. This is like shooting a free throw and the ball hits a light and starts a fire. Between Kotor and BF, there are serious issues regarding rereleased/remastered games and fan made content.

[@talkingbenson5487]

why is aspyr so incompetent? :/ this can't be serious ...

[@mickmufson1824]

I already have the original Battlefront II on PC, I don’t have Battlefront I though, I was eventually planning on buying the classic collection to get the exclusive features like hero assault on any map, but after hearing about that the collection has too many bugs in it, is there any mods for the original version that add in these features?

[@dreemurrprince]

there’s that and more with mods, i know that much

[@mickmufson1824]

@@dreemurrprince Thank you, they should’ve fixed all the bugs before releasing it.

[@Captain00Chaos]

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment, I'll say this: Aspyr doesn't technically need to credit the mod author on any work done or when using the mods as their own. This is due to the fact that any mods that were made fall under ownship of the game's devs and/or their publisher. Now does that make it right? No. But on terms of legality Aspyr are within their rights since they were given full rights from Disney to make these games.

[@Doherty0182]

At the end of the day if they use a modder’s content in their official releases then said modder should receive some compensation for their hard work especially for something that was absolutely a cash grab. Really they should be working on new titles rather than reworking old titles. I didn’t buy the collection because as soon as I saw it I just thought “I already own a copy of the steam version all they’ve done is add and expand multiplayer capability” which they failed to do. If Disney had any sense, they’d endorse modding teams that are working game sized conversion projects and seek to lease the engines so that they’re less limitations to work with for those teams. It would be a win-win for both parties where both would make a lot of money, Disney would spend much less than they would working with EA, win over the fans of the franchise (which is what makes the money) and it would also allow for those modding teams to get a foot hold in the industry. AAA games are flopping these days and small passionate indie teams are proving to be the way forward.

[@higueraft571]

You arent obligated for compensation past being credited. ...of course, they fucked up even THAT :V

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Tsk... what I would do so to full-handedly control the Star Wars franchise as a whole, even if it means making a contract with one Kyuubey somehow? Warning, though, expect me to make the Alt-universe stuff be given an instant embargo ban. Yes, that also includes good works like Rogue One, Andor, and the Jedi games.

[@leonn1196]

Aspyre has always been known for bad ports / re-releases…

[@wiiseeyou]

I think you're wrong about one point you made, companies don't own fan works unless submitted to a platform or publishing deal owned by the copyrights holder by the author. Like if Disney hosted a website for authors to upload fanfic and Disney stated that by uploading you gave them all rights to your creation. Even though mods use assets not owned by the creator of the mod, that just means they're no allowed to sell it. If a company steals your work and uses it in their product, it's still stealing even if what you made was some type of fan creation.

[@glowdonk]

Aspyr can't even keep a pinky promise without completely snapping said pinky in half

[@518UN4]

To be fair to me it looks more likey they thought / experimented with implementing mods at some point but then decided against it and just forgot to take out a few files in the final build. Maybe the whole kotor 2 debacle was the reason why they scratched these plans.

[@Slashingthrough]

What is new they already did with KOTOR as well... Seems people keep forgetting this part for the switch and other consoles

[@TheTrollMastah]

Ngl the controls feel super weird. No matter my sensitivity in BF2 I cannot turn left-right on a dime anymore. Like it feels so sluggish and clunky and I don’t remember it being that way

[@cal2127]

its wild how much of a disaster everyone involved in star wars post disney has been. from games to tv shows

[@jayhawks7160]

I want this game to be good so bad. But theres so many bugs, problems and simple things like inverted flight, ai heroes (in single-player the bots never use a hero, even when they use the leader bonus in GC), the fact that command posts are straight up broken (if youre standing near it, an enemy can still capture it, and vice versa, the contested mechanic is just gone most of the time), obviously the multiplayer and cossplay. Those are the literal basic necessities that should have been there on launch, no questions, its ridiculous. And i mean in a perfect world, and a way they could earn brownie points is remaster the psp exclusives for consoles for the first time as some kinda free dlc or something

[@DJTS1991Yes]

Around the time of the KOTOR2 debacle is when Embracer Group took over Aspyr. So it’s not really Aspyr doing it

[@MednaTheFox]

Should've named their company "Perspyr" the way they're sweating bullets right now

[@mikelreborn3254]

Im ready for dragons dogma 2 friday.. i have these on pc and they came out as fan fav one ...play on gameranger servers. Hell with this version.

[@e.corellius4495]

does nobody remember that aspyr started as a modding team for kotor 1, that took something like 6.3 million from patreon and kickstarter, to do a full graphical overhaul only to "have disney shut them down" but in reality the popped back up as a company two years later. they were hired by disney to do what they do best, scam people. why are people surprised?

[@greenhowie]

Bizarre to think of the praise Aspyr got for the Tomb Raider remasters, only for that good to be blitzed with this...

[@agnastthrower5212]

People who buy games day 1 and also people who preorder are big reasons why so many companies now shit a half-finished game out and call it a day. They know that just having an ip attached to it will make them money.

[@georgesuarez8325]

I'm sorry to hear about this my friend but I also wish Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 was available to download on mobile app. The Battlefront Companion app was removed since EA never fixed it so I'm hoping one day Battlefront will be available to play on mobile app

[@Sajgoniarz]

Knowing how communications and gamedev works here is my take: Aspyr didn't lied. Devs were probably using the mod for testing and they had no plan to release it except they wouldn't have time for finishing porting the dlcs. Devs said there is time, management knew it will be ported properly, no credits for modder was done. Something f*cked up during release and previous build with not finished porting has been released. Such thing happened without PR knowledge so there was issue between communication and real state of thing. They patched it, because they released proper version. That's all.

[@ollywright]

Nice video. FYI it's 'opportune' not 'opportunistic' in your sentence at 4.20

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

They need a controller fix for Battlefornt 2 on Xbox. I have a weird controller drift and stiffness that wasn’t there on the original backwards compatible version.

[@number3766]

What confuses me the most is Aspyr did the Republic Commando port to switch well. How the hell did they fuck this up in ways I didn't think possible!

[@oldschoolman9878]

I didn’t know that they were actually trying there hardest to get that DLC content back into KOTOR 2. I used to love and respect Aspyr, but they have fallen to the dark side because of this galactic sized disaster. It’s bad enough that they made two legendary games unplayable and charged $35 for them, but the fact they used fanmade mods in their game and not giving them credit, to the point that they said that they would remove it, yet lied about doing it. It’s like a goddamn Porg was calling the shots, because at least a Gungan would know how to do a better job.

[@azorbz9286]

If Aspyr had just worked with the modders from the beginning, like they did with KOTOR 2, they could have improved their relationship with the community after the restored DLC mod was struck down (not their fault, but that doesn't stop it from damaging their reputation). Instead, they've lied to the community whose work they were previously championing on top of butchering a port of some of the most important games to SW fans. All this proves is that the Aspyr that survives is not the Aspyr that once existed. There's always a path to regaining the public's trust, but I doubt Aspyr is willing to put in the work to do it. They're running out of SW games to repackage, so they need to work quickly.

[@CAPCOM784]

Aspyr sounds like Bioware just a shell of its formal shelf? Problem is tell one lie to cover up another one then you know they're hiding something? Would never trust them again with another Star Wars game.