This Terraria Weapon Aged like Milk

This Terraria Weapon Aged like Milk. The Staff of the Frost Hydra. To continue to trend of looking at trash Terraria weapons as of late, I thought now would be a great time to finally get around to the last biome key weapon we've looked at ton this channel. Now, I think it goes without saying that the Frost Hydra staff is already pretty frowned upon in the Terraria community, offering very little offence for a lot of effort to obtain. So today, I'm gonna give it one big roasting! Enjoy!
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[@sockrteez]

Fun fact: This is the first time I've actually farmed for the Frozen Key without just getting it by accident 😂

[@nothinghjkhjk]

i think Relogic should get rid of the Hydra staff and replace it with an accesory snow related . Like, maybe an upgrade to the star veil but with defense, damage increasing, and everything the star veil once had

[@CoolLookinPea]

The problem: slow projectile, inconsistent, hard to get The solution: *BIG ASS BEAM* THAT *LOCKS ON, SLOWS, AND MELTS* ENEMIES, quite simple really

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

So kind of like the Endo Hydra staff? I can get behind that.

[@its_unbearable]

So the lunar portal staff?

[@legittaco5899]

I would love if the beam could act as pure support, rather than extra dps. For example, instead of more damage, what if it AOE'd and applied frostburn and slowed larger mobs, or stopped smaller ones dead in their tracks for a few seconds.

[@DannyBob526]

I just made a comment with the same idea and then saw this you said it so much better

[@Human..Being...]

I think it's a bit better than... other Sentry options. The Ballista is cruelly slow, the Flameburst projectile doesn't pierce, and it's pretty slow travelling, the Explosive Trap... well, it's a 360° claymore with repeat bursts. The Lightning Aura ignores half your Tag Damage. I used the Frost Hydra in my first Expert Mode Run as my main weapon, and I loved it. I beat Golem 14 times just farming.

[@el_rato295]

Getting the snow biome key as the first biome key is probably one of the most unsatifying feelings in Terraria

[@sockrteez]

100%

[@realdddaboss]

My first was jungle while I was playing as melee and I got a crimson key While playing as a ranger 😅

[@Meowlegend7]

I got crimson key as my first And I am proud of it.

[@chicomanara]

You never get the Key if you never go to the Ice biome.

[@avivelad9093]

I got hallow then 2 desert

[@rodneybuckentime4838]

Something that could improve the frost hydra staff is turning the ice bolt into a constant stream, like a flamethrower sentry. that would increase crowd control and make it more viable for things like the OOA and farms.

[@CR1MSONACE]

ICE THROWER

[@esbernhawkins5912]

Not to mention, a constant stream would benefit a lot more from summon tags. A longer-range sentry (compared to the OOA electric sentry, at least) with a high rate of fire would actually be a nice niche to fill, might make it more worthwhile vs single targets too

[@kerrybarneyiii1202]

And definitely give it frostburn

[@regularinsanity2352]

One thing I like about sentries is it is free DPS, with almost no cost. Also I never got any keys until I farmed Lizhard, and due to my janky farm design, it produced Jungle, Desert, and Ice, as well as the evil keys if I wanted it to.

[@Malam_NightYoru]

if you make corruption and hallow sand, crimson ice and jungle grass, you may be able to farm 80% of early hardmore in one place.

[@Caleb-kf9wp]

​@@Malam_NightYoruI believe the hallow cancels out the evil biomes, so you have to go for either the hallow or Crimson and corruption

[@D0NU75]

I used to think that with the spider sentry but apparently too much small DPS can cause inv frames to trigger so often that if you have a more powerful weapon to compliment, you might unintentionally end up causing less damage over all, i know this used to be a problem with the Cell summons.

[@Galaksyz]

@@D0NU75 the spider sentry doesn't cause this problem since only piercing projectiles cause inv frames, and neither projectile by this sentry pierces. more generally, plenty of projectiles have local immunity frames which makes it perfectly fine to use since that means their immunity frames are independent and dont interfere with any other projectile these days you can feel free to use support dps items like the nimbus rod for example, it shouldn't impact your other dps

[@gytuj6722]

@@Caleb-kf9wp Hallow cancels out all other biomes, you can do every single other biome at once with the right setup, but add hallow and you will only get hallow keys.

[@thomasdevlin5825]

This weapon got done profoundly dirty. Being an extremely underpowered biome chest weapon for a class that had no content was sad enough, but then they go and add another summoner biome chest and give it a weapon that's actually really good. Frost hydra had been dead for a long time, but then the desert tiger dug up its corpse and set it on fire

[@peterpumpkineater6928]

I don’t think the other sentries are any stronger. Pre moonlord of course

[@TheManWithTheFlannel]

Interesting & graphic analogy. Mind if I use it sometime?

[@tapgames3465]

​@@peterpumpkineater6928OOA sentries are definitely stronger especially with the 1.4.4 changes

[@ihavethebrainofarat2309]

@@peterpumpkineater6928 Nah, the Ballista Staff is great with the full Valhalla Knight set. Granted you'd probably prefer Stardust post-moonlord regardless

[@chowderdx]

Simple solution really, the frost hydra is actually a pvp weapon. It's basically a cartoon anvil that you drop on people's heads

[@SalemsRising]

i think that's the funniest use for a sentry i've ever heard

[@chowderdx]

It's so funny to do to people who don't know about it.

[@ryanhacker5259]

I discovered this years ago. Point and click for 150 damage lol

[@aurastrike]

PFFT

[@auggie9912]

Frame 1 hitbox when its summoned, unreactable cast, full screen attack that demolishes health bars. I think it doesn't work on flying targets though unless they changed that.

[@lipewar9999]

Bro went from praising to shiting on terraria weapons lol

[@sockrteez]

Lol I went through all the good stuff so there’s only garbage left 😂

[@lipewar9999]

@@sockrteez makes sense

[@ariisee]

@@sockrteez you'll have to move to Calamity weapons now :)

[@hannibaljuelenemrke6097]

Villain arc

[@DeathDoesThings]

@@sockrteezim a bit late but do the clorophite weapons like the clorophite partisan

[@PaladinLagnir]

I'll add one extremely niche functionality to this weapon is when used in PvP you can place it directly on a hostile player for a big chunk of damage. When combined with invisibility, it can lead to some very entertaining moments.

[@HeraldOfOpera]

So basically, it's the summoner's answer to the Sniper Rifle. Plus: doesn't give away your location when fired. Minus: Doesn't immediately kill the enemy on hit.

[@employee4275]

I completely forgot I used to do that on 1.2 console until seeing this comment. It really does annihilate people before they even know what's happening.

[@nightsong81]

It's extremely useful in the Old One's Army because it's a free sentry that doesn't cost Etherian Mana. Especially when paired with the Tavernkeep's armor sets & OOA accessories.

[@Malam_NightYoru]

but then it only really is useful for early rounds, as it's limited piercing, slow firing rate, and overall clunkyness makes it very obnoxious to use. which makes no sense, because you're already post plantera.

[@nightsong81]

No, it's still the most useful pre-Moonlord sentry for OOA that doesn't use Etherian Mana. It makes a difference even in the final tier. Try it. I'm not saying it couldn't be improved, but it's definitely helpful. Outside of OOA, you have a point because the later OOA sentries outclass it.

[@Telogor]

You get this at about the same time you get access to T3 Old One's Army. As a massive upgrade over the Queen Spider Sentry, it helps immensely in clearing the event. On top of that, the Tavernkeep armor sets are extremely stat bloated, so they're an excellent choice for general use. That means you have a free 5 sentry slots, and the Frost Hydra is often the best way to use those slots, as it has 360° coverage, pierce, and Frostburn.

[@damnthisisabadname]

Queen spider supremacy

[@zlaggaming68]

i think to buff this they need to rework how the projectile works and instead make it a frostburn flamethrower instead of a off brand diamond staff.

[@johnathanpowell6128]

The one spot i do use this is for farming OOA solo - it doesnt cost gems to summon, and since OOA sentries summoned with gems don't count against your sentry cap, you can just throw some hydras down to slow down flyers or whatever. It's not much, but it's free. I build at least a rudimentary platform farm in every world I play because i can't function without rod of discord, so its easy enough to grab a key and pick it up.

[@TheGreatCyberwolf]

It may not have high direct damage, but it's important to remember that debuff it inflicts. Frostbite is a powerful debuff, and the fact that you can click one button and basically get a free Frostbite dispenser is pretty good, because it means less time needed switching to an Elf Melter and more time throwing down your main damage

[@mark220v]

this is so pointless i don't even have words for this.

[@Noah--07]

bro no

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

I get frostbite is nice and all, but it's really not something where you should be THIS desperate to apply lmao

[@tapgames3465]

Theres no point for a Frostbite debuff especially when you are doing a summoner playthrough because of cool whip

[@ZoySebas]

Beign a sentry type weapon at a weird point in progression hurts the weapon a lot. Yk, you could just kill golem immediatly a give and try at the OOA to get the balidta staff, a MUCH better alternative

[@MrGHLFinny157]

Look I get that the frost hydra is bad but by all means it’s not the worst weapon in the game… that title belongs to the lawnmower😏😂 If you could beat a single boss with the lawnmower then you can give that title to the frost hydra 😂😂😂

[@somedude4087]

thats a tool

[@thierrydecker8110]

To be fair, it was the first sentry weapon. When it was added, there were no other weapons in the game that did what it did, and even if you got one, plopping one down would be a small but basically free bonus to your damage.

[@Geist1337]

Seeing like a million of them shooting the golem at the end and doing virtually no damage really sealed it. Like damn.

[@mr.badger3950]

There is one thing this weapon is good for that is kind of niche but very useful. The Frost Hydra Staff is very useful for the final version of the Old One's Army. Since the Sentries not sold by the Tavernkeep are counted separately than the ones sold by him as well as the fact that the knock back of the frost hydra staff isn't so bad you can use it once Flying Goblins and Dragons come from above. It is actually quite a good use for it because otherwise those things can be the hardest part of the event

[@dragonwrath582]

I love the frost hydra staff, I dont care f it sucks, I used it very effectively in my first time beating moon lord, where I used it with the Valhalla knight set to have high regen and 5 sentries, then with a nurse set up, I just out lasted it with the phantasm as a secondary.

[@FatMCSteve]

The fact that it's free damage cause it's a sentry puts it out of the discussion for one of the worst weapons imo

[@kylre]

Waste of inventory space and hotbar😪😪

[@buttsaggington6379]

free damage at the cost of limiting mobility to stay in targeting range

[@Malam_NightYoru]

there are good sentries from Old one's army, that you can get easily if your progression is already post plant.

[@CR1MSONACE]

The discussion for worst weapon is over. It's the tin shortsword.

[@Geckoreo]

@@CR1MSONACE have you prehaps heard of the beam sword?

[@KoongYe]

I just consider sentries as addition to my minions. So I am always pleasantly surprised at how much the staff does especially for events.

[@kendallgillming8499]

The frost hydra was decent when it was the only sentry at it's tier, even the low damage is extra damage that requires little maintenance. The rainbow gun has to be reset more often too so I think the gun remains my least favorite biome weapon

[@24mare11]

I remember it being my fav weapon in terraria ios years ago, i liked to pvp with my friend for the fun of it and it somehow have collision damage needless to say droping forst hydra on the poor guy's head and watch half of his health bar disappear is so fun

[@jlester163]

Buff as a support:gives "chill debuff" to enemies giving them slow atk speed, slow movement speed and takes 10% more damage all in a 10 second cooldown(timer refreshes every hit) Buff as a dps: remove the fire per second ice shot and replace it with an ice beam and peirce through 5 enemies and give it a toggle where it has normal mode(sentry) has more damage and follow mode(summon)80% of base damage but will now actas a flying ice dragon

[@ou1ck5cop38]

Hello sock, I think you would enjoy looking through a form of crit mage. I use this armor over spectre armor since it hits 100% crit post golem, which means you can even pair it with spectre hood armor to get double the healing Armor: Chlorophyte mask (orichalcum mask) Spectre Robe Dark Artist Leggings Accesories and reforges Putrid scent (lucky) eye of the golem (lucky) destroyer emblem (lucky) celestial stone (lucky) (any 3 accessories of your choice with lucky, but i would perfer celestial, summoner/wings and avenger emblem) buffs: rage potion crystal ball mythical reforge you can even swap the Chlorophyte mask for the orichalcum mask, and reforge to menacing until you are at 100% I would recommend playing around with some numbers to max out damage / 100% crit. Enjoy!

[@jerrellgonzalez791]

First time I have seen the end screen actually lag with all the sentries 😂

[@OwlpoAnimations]

I think it’d be really cool, like each of the biome chests, the frost hydra be unique. The Ballistas are essentially it but just better now so a cold way to make it better would be, you know, doing what its name implies. The staff summons a sentry with three heads: head number one is the current one, dealing increased damage with 5 pierce, head two is a close ranged head which releases an infinitely piercing high damage flame breath, and the last head swaps between the two depending on enemy distance from it.

[@nanopi]

I found it useful to light up dark areas and also to remove the shading from the minimap for cleaner screenshots of pixel art. If you want a similar item early game, there is one from Deerclops loot. It's called Houndius Shootius. Some other items to light up dark areas behind blocks in other ways: Daybreak: Dust falls down lighting up solid blocks. Solar eruption: Dust from the tip lights up solid blocks. Jester's Arrow: Dust spawns when the arrow hits a solid block and continues going through the blocks emitting light. Goes great with Tsunami and Daedalus Stormbow Cursed Sapling: A pet that flies in large circles around you if it can't walk next to you. It's Dust trails light up any dark areas.

[@wornoutrei]

Maybe if an enemy got close to the Frost Hydra it could switch to a short-medium ranged flamethrower kinda attack similar to the Elf Melter, this as well as some buffs to it's longer range and I think you've got yourself a solid sentry.

[@ledlebrgr5380]

it would be nice if, like the Desert Tiger, placing multiple would instead upgrade it, causing it to deal more damage, gain more pierce, and grow extra heads to allow it to fire faster

[@StoneyHalf-DragonHero9102]

My solution for this: Create a crafting recipe that uses the Rainbow Gun & the Hydra Staff to create the Prism Hydra Staff. It would summon Prism Hydra sentries that fires the Rainbow Gun projectiles & they would only fire a new projectile when the old one expires & it would still inflict Frostburn for even more consistent DPS.

[@funi2872]

perfect rework idea: something ive seen a lot of people say for a rework is to make it a beam, which could definitely work but i think that would fit better on a different sentry with a different theme, like maybe a robot. my main idea, along with a buff to damage and its pierce, is pretty simple: play into the hydra theming ! ! ! my first idea for its gimmick could involve choosing between having it be a primary summon or just a sentry support. generally, as a summoner youre gonna have all your minion slots filled up, but! a neat idea would be that, for each vacant minion slot you have, it has an extra head ! ! imagine a summoner with 5 minion slots, and a 5 headed hydra sentry, it would basically turn into a frostburn gatling gun. combined with the accessories from OOA for an extra sentry slot, and you got two gunners with ya' :]

[@samuelgriego9398]

My idea for a buff is to make it be a hydra with multiple heads that have unique firing patterns and projectiles. Like one shoots bolts that are accurate and have a crit boost,one shoots lobs that bounce and pierce, and the last either shoots frostflame or homing explosive bolts, making every hydra turret useful.

[@AyyDraws]

The funny part about the invasions thing: recasting the tiger staff will cause it to do it's whole screen attack repeatedly

[@mysecretyoutubeguy6181]

I liked it. In 1.2 you spawned 1 of each sentry so I would always spawn the hydra and the spider queen. It felt great having a collection of all the sentries together.

[@linguine4500]

It's a sentry support weapon it isn't supposed to absolutely decimate eveything on screen in seconds like every other sentry you didn't compare it to apparently

[@mattfrost7220]

Give it a burst attack so the actual sentry is more reminiscent of a HYDRA, then make those attacks home in on enemies. Better, but still outclassed.

[@Amia_the_Smol]

Honestly it was still moderately "decent" prior to 1.4.4, but the decision to add a delay on sentries firing after being summoned killed any viability it had. Even the added frostburn debuff didn't really help it.

[@thechabbagepatch312]

I’d like to make an argument for the frost hydra. I have been doing a very slow play through and have found it to be insanely useful during the final stage of old ones army. Combined with the ballistas and other sentries you can use via ethereal mana, it helps get rid of the majority of the lesser units so you can focus more on the bosses and annoying flying ones. It also has its uses for other events, but I will admit it is an incredibly niche use for such a rare weapon, especially when compared to the other biome chests

[@scientistB]

I like where the Hydra's at right now, as it used to be a lot worse. It was such a rare weapon because the concept of a sentry wasn't even a thing back then. Though I think if its projectile dealt local i-frames, it would be a lot more worth using in swarms. Otherwise, as someone said, a flamethrower effect would be cool.

[@Neopolitan_Illusion]

The frost hydra is good but I certainly think it needs to have wings to be amongst the floating sentries of late game that can attack 360°

[@himbofelix5858]

Seeing sock’s game actually lag at the end for once is probably the greatest thing this weapon could ever achieve

[@duwanglover3424]

I feel that all the biome weapons have just been completely powercrept for their placement in progression. The Frost Hydra being hit the hardest

[@piranhabones]

Thing about sentries is that they're literally free damage. You can just put them anywhere and let them support you at the cost of nothing. And, unlike the rainbow gun and cloud rods, they last for 10 whole minutes, and they will still be there even if you die (thanks hydra for killing the last moon pillar when I didn't want to, very cool). But I do agree, they are almost never worth it because the actual reward and dps you get is just not balanced with the amount of effort required to get them, SPECIALLY the hydra

[@hootyhoo5852]

I love the Frost Hydra Staff for 1 reason. Old Ones Army. If you equip one of the tier 2 armor sets, you get lots of extra damage, AND it doesn't need etherian mana, so you can basically AFK the event until you get to Betsy.

[@-Keith-]

It's extremely sad that even with uncapped summons, the frost hydra army wasn't able to scratch golem in the end clip.

[@Intrafacial86]

Kinda niche, but if you go Red Riding for OOA, the oiled effect from explosive traps will double the damage over time from Frost Hydra’s frostbite.

[@ZeSheffy]

4:19 Even if we limited it to weapons of it's type it still is quickly replaced by the tier 3 ooa sentries

[@ferdithetank7535]

I remember getting it back in 1.3. and it was decent, there were no other sentries and it scaled with magic damage, so adding it along with Nimbus Rod for events/invasions was neat. Also it dealt contact damage on spawning, meaning you could've clicked enemies to death with it through tiles by spending some mana potions.

[@scorchinorphan1687]

It may be a pain to do, but with the example of max stats you've done (Specifically ones that can be applied to one class, like Mage) You should show the average DPS (Single and Multi) of each one maxed stat then do the closest to evenly splitting them into one build. I just finished watching the Mage videos and I was curious how using like a quarter of each sets load out, or using mixed variants which weren't used before because they did less then one specific stat, would change how certain weapons ended up being, if maybe some weapons were capable of more under even splitting.

[@dumpworth9473]

If Frost Hydra has million fans, I’m one of them. If Frost Hydra has ten fans I’m one of them. If Frost Hydra has only one fan, that one is me. If Frost Hydra has no fans, that means I am no longer alive. If the world is against Frost Hydra, I’m against the world.

[@adamminecraft6242]

It had another use for me on my old-gen Xbox360, basically holding it gave you infinite reach so I used it to open chests scattered around my base, and while it wasn't it's main purpose it definitely was convenient

[@chop2531]

Make it home, give it 10 pierce, double its damage make it infinite and you've got yourself another good weapon from the biome chest. But even now I still use it since its not a pain to use, just set it down and it pesters any enemies that may want to get to close.

[@BananaXYZ]

THe snow chest is like that one uncle in the family of biome chests that nobody wants to talk about

[@Valrok1870]

You forget everytime the EXTREMELY niche PvP scene. The hydra will not shoot players, but deals contact damage. Around 350 damage. You can double summon on a person and win... Or one shot with literally any melee weapon at the time, use the sniper rifle, landmines, Okay yeah no redeeming qualities for it. Aside from a cool looking sprite

[@gumbarius]

It's a hydra, a HYDRA. Give it more heads. Give it more projectiles. Make it shoot ice beams

[@chicken_person]

Reminds me of my first Master Mode playthrough, I was playing with a friend and in early hardmode got 2 Frost Keys that dropped from the same enemy (which I didnt know was possible, but I was recording at the time), and I don't think we ever ended up using them. It just tends to be... Disappointing.

[@JC-cs7fq]

I only use this summon to look for caves as it can be summon inside of the blocks and produces light that exposes the surrounding areas for a second

[@potatogaming2020]

How I'd buff this staff... step 1: Infinite piercing. Step 2: Increased crit chances or I guess in this case add crit chances (I'd say around 7 to 10% is fair) Step 3: Raise base damage from 100 to around 120 maybe 125 since it requires a bit of grinding

[@SomeRandomKydd]

I would say lay into the Hydra part and make it have multiple heads. Like for every 10 seconds it appears the number of heads double so it will have over 1000 heads by the time it naturally disappears. Maybe that is a bit much.

[@michalocenas3225]

Irs useful only in OOA where you cant use its sentries because it requires etherian mana. It is just some extra damage that is useful but i wouldnt farm for it. I would like to see it have some buff, like every projectile has its own I-frames like blade staff because if you stack them it doesnt do much difference.

[@LucasRCD]

A one-headed hydra doesn't do much by itself. You know what would make this weapon 10 times better? If each sentry had 3 heads, and they fired separate projectiles each.

[@DeftestAphid2]

This is the first time I disagree with your evaluation: 1. Its a support weapon that does decent peirce damage, it doesn't count towards your minion spawn limit(but still gets buffed by summon modifiers) 2. If you're going for a tank-hybrid build with the Eternia armor(Valhalla Knights Set preferably), it's even more useful with more sentries 3. As a sentry with long stay ability, it can easily be placed prior to fighting a boss. 4. When dealing with the dreaded spires, they do consistent damage after your death(I've had times when it destroyed the Spire while running back) 5. It's great for killing mass mobs during bloodmoon/solar eclipse events, even if it's a bothersome pirate/Goblin raid, just let them do all the work while you get the gold. -Overall it's a great support weapon, even for bosses it easily does the chip damage. If you're at the point to kill Plantera, it's objectively better than the Tiger because by then you'd be better off with the stardust dragon(if you're not 100% maining summoner). It's great for flexibility, as far as offensive supports go.

[@jaron3511]

I remember an long time ago the frozen chest spawned as a normal chest. So it is a pretty good early game loot in my opinion lol

[@Qualicabyss]

Its sprite is pretty bad too, id say it needs a complete rework, givingnit moltiple heads so its actually a hydra and having them move fluidly would help greatly, give it more of a flamethrower attack with decent knockback and slowing too. Now you have a powerful tool for crowd control that looks awesome

[@ababcb3005]

It would be nice if each of the hydra attacks had separate s. I think that was what was limiting the damage a lot in the golem fight at 3:50. It's not like you're going to have a ton of sentries unless you're using a very specific build or doing the OOA event anyways.

[@emeraldsdumbchannel]

Half The Biome Chest Weapons Need Buffs Or Reworks. Example: The Rainbow Gun, Yes It Is Meant To Be Like That, But It Should Have A Better Abiliy Than Just Shoot A Single Pretty Much Useless Rainbow.

[@somedude4087]

or at least have it last some time 40 seconds is nothing

[@emeraldsdumbchannel]

@@somedude4087 Or Permanently Like The Cursed Flame Wall Weapon (Forgot The Name)

[@somedude4087]

@@emeraldsdumbchannel Clinger Staff, its not permanent thats the thing, it also needs line of sight to where you wanna place it its...10 minutes? I think? no its 5

[@emeraldsdumbchannel]

@@somedude4087 Oh, Then Mabye Atleast Make The Rainbow Last Atleast 3-4 Minutes

[@somedude4087]

@@emeraldsdumbchannel thats whats mentioned in changes for 1.4.5...iirc?

[@DareMurdok]

A good upgrade would be able to turn into different modes. have one like vanilla, but it now shoots homing freezing icicles like the Scourge of COrrupter, sends its normal bullet and when it hits a block or enemy , does damage if it can then splits into more icicles that home in on closest enemy, another mode is a freezing beam similar to Lunar Portal , infinite piercing. lastly, freezing mines, launches mines that explode into Frostbite style molotovs when making contact with enemy. blue fire everywhere they can stay on the ground or hang in the air, Hydra will spit the mines around creating the minefield and replace any detonated mines it needs to. all projectiles give the Frostbite debuff/damage-over-time

[@gablink5190]

Maybe giving it a Flamelash propriety (homming + piercing + explosion) would be a fine enough buff for this weapon.

[@bcefkm]

There is a scenario where you would want this, and that's if you are struggling with the post-planterra version of the old one's army. It's similar to how the queen spider staff and the houdius shootius work for the post-mech version and the prehardmode version.

[@hazelbot6399]

It's insulting this thing is even called a Hydra. Hydra's generally have several heads. A buff for this weapon could be to make it have 3-6 heads that all shoot either at a single target for massive damage or at multiple for greater crowd control. Of course increase the damage, rate of fire and projectile speed too.

[@Cyanoutthere]

I remembered my first time getting this weapon and seeing its name, I was like "oh it was so cool, summoning a real hydra will be so powerful" and immediately got disappointed, so sad

[@nemba246]

Back in the old gen console days in the first version this was one of my favorite weapons for a single reason. It could be cast anywhere and did contact damage, so it was amazing for pvp if you wanted to mess with your friends and hide somewhere during a fight.

[@Bendytube72]

Imagine if it blasted the frost fire the Elf Melter shoots! That'd probably help with balance.

[@lennic]

This is my favorite biome chest item though, It's just nice when playing any role, I combined it with rainbow gun, rainclouds, summons , other turrets and mage playstyle, literally just free damage

[@justpodzol9681]

I do use Frost Hydra, but only if I get the Frost Key by accident. It's free DPS- although quickly replaced by tier III old one's army sentries.

[@yarisher3127]

It's only good for stacking debuffs. With the tiki staff applying venom, hydra doing frostbite and inferno with hellfire you can get quite a bit of damage

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

It deserves a full rework because it is the most basic sentry but is obtained so late game that it isn't even worth trying to get

[@sqoosh636]

I never realized how poorly this weapon aged compared to back then until I watched this. The frost hydra is so bad you can hear sock laughing half the time he talks about it 😭😭

[@thembigstonks7016]

I feel like all that needs to be changed is for the projectile to home in on enemies. The Frost Hydra is pretty great for things like the Pumpkin and Frost Moons, along with the Old One’s Army, but sucks at boss fights, so for the projectile to simply home in would massively help with boss fights by making it actually hit the boss. Now for the replies to flood in explaining why everything I just said is wrong.

[@Lodestone8]

Maybe have it be the first and only multilevel sentry, like the desert tiger staff, only with this it'll add a head like you know a hydra, and projectile, each time as well as increasing the damage.

[@Yatsuzume]

Seeing 10 of em spawned in made me feel like it'd be fun to buff it by giving it more heads that move around like the Gamma Heart heads in Calamity.

[@mr.bananaman7901]

I agree that it needs a buff but, is it not supposed to be a sentry and not a weapon? Then of course any other summoner weapon is superior, it is supposed to support on the battlefield like a ballista or spider queen summon.

[@carlos41519]

I never even knew it was as bad as it was. It actually helped me out with the ethereal invasion and saved me during the solar eclipse

[@ImnotZaz3n]

How to describe this is just a couple of words "My disappointment is immersable and my day is ruined"

[@Lennyst]

Yall seem to forget that you can use this in the OOA with a sentry setup.

[@Ornithopter470]

Only problem is that by the time you get that rolling, you probably don't need it. Sentries as a whole need some work, because they're in an awkward spot because of whips.

[@Aderon]

I think the hydra wouldn't be so bad, if there weren't sentries you could obtain earlier in progression that are simply better at this point while also getting specific perks from some fairly spicy hybrid armors. I mean, the ballista staff is simply superior to the hydra, and it matches with the Valhalla set which is super tanky, but even the ballista cane has more than enough damage to be a more reasonable option than the hydra staff.

[@techknight3753]

So it's CALLED the Frost HYDRA... why does it only shoot 1 projectile? I feel like there is a really simple fix here, litterally just buff the number of heads (aka projectile count) to 3-7 like a typical hydra. Perhaps each head could target a different enemy, turning it into a fairly effective passive AOE frostbite spreader.

[@PocketMaewing]

A lot of people might not know about this but I remember back in the 1.2 me and my friends would pvp eachother with this if we were hiding in houses lmao if you spawn it on a player hits for massive dmg leads to some very funny moments

[@tamirsins]

So one time I decided to try to get it while playing with friends. It took me over 100 king slimes + hours of farming just to FAIL TO GET IT. We beat moon lord. Before I could even get this damn thing.

[@TouhouEXPolaros]

Gonna be honest it might need a buff, but the comparisons didn't feel apropriate it Should've been compared with the Old one's Army tier 2 and tier 3 Sentries.

[@Shaydox_]

I remember getting this by accident in my first playthru in 1.2.4 and I thought it was awesome to place down just for extra damage, such a shame its almost worth more selling than it is in your inventory

[@Dom_Maretti]

The Rainbow Gun is my favorite of all of the Biome weapons...and I regularly see people complain about it being weak. But the Frost Hydra...especially given how cool of a name (pun intended) that is, is especially disappointing. I think the best thing that could be done for the thing would be to remove its piercing and triple its fire rate.

[@TerrariaTree1]

Relogic needs to buff this weapon either make it rapid fire, make it shoot out a huge ice beam constantly, or make it like a sentry version of the elf melter

[@hoangchu1896]

it is quite underwhelming nowadays, isn't it? But back when it was introduced (1.2), it was honestly not that bad. There were few good summons in the game, and it did damage independently of the player, letting you use it alongside another weapon. I remember back when pumpkin moon and frost moon first came out, frost hydra was actually pretty decent. Plus, I think it was a magic weapon back then too, which meant it also scaled with magic armour sets.

[@Leo.827]

How to fix: -increase fire rate -increase projectile velocity -create aura around it that does close quarters dps & slows

[@yellowdsduck]

My console pvp homies know the fear of fighting someone with this staff dealing 200+ damage to you instantly

[@DiamondEmpyrean8273]

I like your funny words, magic goose.