This tip will help you stop a motorcycle with more control

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MCrider - Motorcycle Training

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@MCrider
@MCrider 4 жыл бұрын
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@rrayr10
@rrayr10 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 62 and I still practice that, it just has never came naturally so I always work at it. I've learned that overcoming bad habits takes practice and work.
@wff58
@wff58 5 жыл бұрын
Ya...don't feel badly, Ray. I practice stopping smoothly all the time. Some days it happens so naturally, and other days, I'm all out of sorts. I think fatigue plays a big part in it. Head and Eyes do also.
@kidgypsie2105
@kidgypsie2105 5 жыл бұрын
@@wff58 you are so right. Fatigue makes our coordination way off! When that happens it's time to stop get a bottle of water & snack if needed cool off and you ride better when not dragging a**
@lownotes4320
@lownotes4320 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this tip really, really helped me stop my motorcycle with much more control. I can't believe how much better I stop, much more smoothly, just by stoping with the rear brake. Kevin, I have to tell you, I really apreciate how much effort you put into getting riders back home safe. Thank you very much.
@rlopez521
@rlopez521 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Perfect video.
@robertphelps573
@robertphelps573 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin i've been riding motorcycles 60 years and i learn something every time i watch one of your videos Thank you sir
@bryanmahon7866
@bryanmahon7866 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your humbleness, with top years of experience.
@rafborrero
@rafborrero 5 жыл бұрын
Been riding for 4 years and appreciating the knowledge from the videos
@quintontim
@quintontim 5 жыл бұрын
thats scary...
@Ducati_Dude
@Ducati_Dude 5 жыл бұрын
@@quintontim ---> Never too old to learn something new...
@wriches
@wriches 5 жыл бұрын
@@redneckersonphd Respect to you sir, that is a great attitude to have
@returnedtotheearth1326
@returnedtotheearth1326 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. At last. Someone on KZbin who teaches it correctly 👍🏻
@NINedStark
@NINedStark 4 жыл бұрын
my fingers pain pulling the clutch all the time on red light, you think its because im a beginner and have no habit yet?
@toddhandy8516
@toddhandy8516 4 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing! All these other guys on here don’t go in like this. I just learned a wealth of knowledge in 6.23!
@jenniferclarke3622
@jenniferclarke3622 4 жыл бұрын
@@NINedStark if the lights just changed to red and you know it will be red for a while, just slip into neutral. just before the lights change again, slip back into first. i know some traffic lights where I live take forever to change and my hand would cramp up if left in gear. I see your comment was from 7 months ago so i'm sure you already have it all figured out now. regards.
@violjohn
@violjohn 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I've been riding for 30 odd years and still wondered why sometimes the bike behaves like it wants to fall over at a stop. Now I know.
@g.s.3450
@g.s.3450 Ай бұрын
This is one of the best braking videos I’ve ever seen. The Correct/Incorrect simultaneous split-screen comparisons are brilliant. Thanks!
@robertbyrd6703
@robertbyrd6703 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for emphasizing to "finish" with the rear brake. I always remember to use both brakes but haven't gave attention to finishing with the rear brake. Thanks Kevin as always.
@FNGMOTO
@FNGMOTO 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Byrd I was doing the same time without even realizing it. Not I know why my bars would go right or left after the stop.
@andrewchia6390
@andrewchia6390 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I can't believe I never heard this before. Totally smoothed out the way I stop. Thanks, Kevin
@Ducati_Dude
@Ducati_Dude 5 жыл бұрын
Sames... makes total sense. Will try this technique next ride. ✔
@traviscallaway9675
@traviscallaway9675 3 жыл бұрын
Finishing on rear brake really gives a more controlled feel. I'm a born again newbie after twenty some odd years, and really rusty. Took a cruise around town yesterday and found stops are way better using rear brake. No more wobbles coming to a stop. Thanks again Kevin!
@tomzingery143
@tomzingery143 3 жыл бұрын
Overcoming a bad habit of using front brake to finish the stop. With that said, agree that using rear brake to complete the stop is better! However, for me, putting both feet down after bike is completely stopped, adds to stability . The bike, both feet...3 points instead on 2, especially looking to the right. Thank you for letting me voice my opinion.
@niconjones
@niconjones 4 жыл бұрын
This was helpful. Just picked up an ultra classic with a tour pack and it’s like learning to ride all over again. I’m still sweating bullets when I ride 2up. Never thought the transition from a Dyna to a big touring bike would be that big. I’d figure I’d get us d to it in a week or two. Thanks for the instructional videos they’re much appreciated.
@billhodge1001
@billhodge1001 5 жыл бұрын
Short. Sweet. Perfection, Kevin!
@jeffmclowry
@jeffmclowry 5 жыл бұрын
My wife and I just purchased our first Harley (Fatboy) two weeks ago. I gotta say, you put out some good information. Thank you!
@2Timone7
@2Timone7 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding instruction. Thanks for posting. No rider ever stops learning.
@lcmd7833
@lcmd7833 5 жыл бұрын
I got my first motorcycle at age 13 and rode them until I was out of college. (Only a few broken bones!). I thought I was a very experienced rider ... but I was so wrong! Now as a geriatric with $$$ and several bikes, I am learning how much I didn't know, and now learning and correcting a lifetime of bad riding practices. I thank you for these excellent videos!
@PiXimperfect
@PiXimperfect 3 жыл бұрын
These training videos are so good! Absolute top-notch and life saving :)
@felicidadmaldo6866
@felicidadmaldo6866 3 жыл бұрын
Yours are top notch too
@colind333
@colind333 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Good knowledge to learn or review👏🙌
@henryedeh5944
@henryedeh5944 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I drive other things, but I've always avoided motorcycles. Today I moved one without assistance, but I knew I stopped either by miracle or just confidence. No one noticed my inexperience, but I know millions of calculations went through my head. That's why I searched *how to stop a motorcycle* and you made it short, simple and clear 👌. Thank you
@magoo6541
@magoo6541 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I remember this from the MSF 20 years ago when I was riding a sport bike. Now that I’m on a 1000 pound Indian, I’ve been using only the front brake and was having issue with the handlebar turning like you described. Rode today for 2+ hours and used your technique from the start. Not a single instance of the handlebar turning and every stop was smooth.
@MCrider
@MCrider 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for sharing.
@301joey1
@301joey1 3 жыл бұрын
TY Sir... I m returning to riding at 63 with close to 40 years no riding...I got a good deal on a Honda VTX 1800T 2008...I good my big boy seat on it yesterday and got about 2 hours ride time in today...10 MPH plus it was second nature, everything was completely natural, the bike handled like a dream and more power than I will ever use...Now 10 MPH slower was work, I got better with the turns as the ride went on but the stops were frustrating and scary...., the video was exactly what I needed to see....Thank You for shareing your knowlege.
@eleanormartin2390
@eleanormartin2390 5 жыл бұрын
After 15 years as a motorcycle cop this video is correct, also we teach riders that the bike stays in first gear in case you have to move quickly, and both hands stay on the handlebars, watch your rearview also; good job
@steelbeard151
@steelbeard151 5 жыл бұрын
While stopped at the light in first gear, do you hold the clutch in?
@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned
@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned 5 жыл бұрын
Steel Beard Yes. That way you maintain control of the motorcycle and are ready to pull away quickly if necessary.
@Wires747
@Wires747 4 жыл бұрын
I tipped my bike twice on a stop sign in the middle of a busy rd and i didnt know what i was doing wrong. Im a new rider. Thank you so much
@JayBirdNJ.
@JayBirdNJ. 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin, I bet you get this a lot but I'm still going to thank you for taking the time to share your tips, experience and great advice. Watching your videos and taking notes has taught me how to ride motorcycles safer and with more confidence. I really take value in you videos and your wisdom, thank you for being there for us.
@rogerthornby258
@rogerthornby258 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I just purchased a bigger bike than I am used to. These tips help me alot.thanks
@WhackBytch256
@WhackBytch256 4 жыл бұрын
Two feet down, all front brake, neutral I know I watched this before, but my new clutch has me a little disoriented, so I wanted to ‘refresh’. Thanks for always being there 😉
@04harley
@04harley 5 жыл бұрын
Although I've probably been riding as long or longer than you, I always find it worth while to review. Your vlogs do a great job of reminding and teaching.
@dcstrng1
@dcstrng1 Жыл бұрын
Ditto !!
@carlosirizarry4005
@carlosirizarry4005 4 жыл бұрын
as a brand new rider and choosing a harley road glide this trip just made me a way better and safer rider . My confidence is increasing and now secure to know NO MORE WOBBLE AS I STOP!! thank you
@richardshilling2958
@richardshilling2958 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Front for stopping back for balance and control.
@JulianIbanez13
@JulianIbanez13 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 66 and I've been riding sinice I was 18 or so. Now I ride a 1985 Goldwinig SE and I've been having some problems when coming to a stop. Never dropped a bike in my life, but at 66 I'm getting old and less able to do things. I think your video today is a changer. I'm going to beging stopping like you say and let's see what happens. Thanks for the tip.
@neptune3doz
@neptune3doz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all your help brother! I’m a new rider and I’ve watched a ton of your videos and I constantly apply your advice when I’m out on the road! Thank you again! You save lives!
@joeschmitt4437
@joeschmitt4437 5 жыл бұрын
Never had this problem with my 11 foot long 1969 HD. The front brake was just 3 inches in diameter. The brake was pretty but not for stopping. So I never dropped the bike coming to a stop! Fast forward ...... after 35 years off, got a street legal bike again and began falling down at slow speeds. Yes, using the front brake with the fork turned and not centered. Kevin, Thanks. This is one of your most important videos for a new rider as well as someone getting back on a bike again.
@Sandistallone
@Sandistallone 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your videos. I am a new rider just under 8 months. I enjoy watching and learning. It goes beyond what we learn in class and i appreciate it.
@maureenjacob3442
@maureenjacob3442 5 жыл бұрын
We’ve just bought a bike. I’m going to go to training school soon. My husband hasn’t ridden for a few years. I’m showing him your videos. I really appreciated this one, you make it so clear, thank you.
@MCrider
@MCrider 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Maureen, I appreciate it.
@jamesmcgrath1952
@jamesmcgrath1952 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, you just solved an intermittent problem I have. Most times my stops are uneventful but occasionally for some unknown (now known) reason it's sloppy and the bike feels like it wants to fall over. Now I need to pay attention and figure out why I do this occasionally. I'm 66 years old and have been riding since I was 13 or 14, you would think I wouldn't have bad habits creeping in to my riding.
@pennygray1964
@pennygray1964 5 жыл бұрын
me too,time for a rider course,I took one and loved it,thought i knew it all ridin since 67'but I didn't
@FastusRastus
@FastusRastus 3 жыл бұрын
I've ridden dirt bikes for 30+ years and recently bought a cruiser. Your videos have helped me enormously. Thank you MCrider!
@thomaswild9044
@thomaswild9044 5 жыл бұрын
He's on target. I was a Motorcycle cop and he's 100% correct
@chrisn.3153
@chrisn.3153 4 жыл бұрын
Same here but still active.
@thomaswild9044
@thomaswild9044 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a retired NYPD Highway cop. Your 100% correct. Now I'm a retired bike enthusiast and I see at least 90% riders operate their bike incorrectly.
@nickmiracle2317
@nickmiracle2317 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I was taught to down shift, use both brakes and finish the planned stop with the front brake using both feet for balance while stopped. I’ll try this technique and see how it works. Thanks for a great video.
@adriamillasluque
@adriamillasluque 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of information in this video was perfect. Not too little, not too much. One thing is reading and listening, and another integrating all these movement parallely. Thank you so much, Kevin!
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 5 жыл бұрын
Something that kind of goes along with this is if you are on a slippery surface (think grass) don't use the front brake. Please don't ask how I know, but if you have an inquiring mind, look at the video from a few weeks ago about dropping your bike.
@ND-tu7ww
@ND-tu7ww 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who hasn't I suggest taking a riding course. They teach this and other things that many do not know or were never taught. Thanks to MCRider for teaching proper technique.
@Got2BTru522
@Got2BTru522 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Kevin. As an MSF instructor you touched on all important points with the exception of keeping your head up (which you did correctly in the video :). I always enjoy and learn from your videos. Thank you!
@demetriusstump8654
@demetriusstump8654 3 жыл бұрын
New rider here. Just purchased my first bike 3 days ago and this video is very helpful! Thank you!
@Kenn1969
@Kenn1969 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I do all three of those a lot if the time, ugh. One if the best tips I've seen in KZbin in a long time, well done. God bless!!!😎👍
@thomasseeley4043
@thomasseeley4043 4 жыл бұрын
It works! Coming back to riding after 14-year break I was stopping like a total newbie. I was so ragged that the driver in front of me pulled forward as he thought I was going to hit hin (so did I). Using the technique has made my stops no longer the adventure they were. Thanks
@ralphweber2522
@ralphweber2522 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip and video! I haven’t ridden in many years and trying to get my skills back. This really helped. Can’t wait to see other tips. Thank you!
@kpsargentable
@kpsargentable 5 жыл бұрын
I used to have a CB 750 back in 85. Only had it for a year. Had problems with it. So I sold it. Now I finally got this 83 CB 1000 custom for Christmas. Love it! It's like starting all over. Stopping was Shakey. With this technique you just showed me I'm a lot better. Really appreciate it! Thanks buddy!
@KR-vr3kh
@KR-vr3kh 3 жыл бұрын
New rider here. I’ve been struggling with the planned stops. Tipped my bike on a planned stop today. I violated all three of these. So glad I watched this video and now know what I did wrong. Thank you so much for the valuable knowledge and making me a safer rider.
@themidnightrdr7292
@themidnightrdr7292 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you mentioned leaving the bike in gear at a stop. I see too many other riders shift to neutral at a light. I downshift through the gears as I approach a stop and stay in 1rst once stopped...this way I am always in the correct gear to accelerate if needed.
@erikjensen6503
@erikjensen6503 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin you should add head up. I see riders all the time looking down and almost falling. Great video
@flanateurist
@flanateurist 5 жыл бұрын
Great observation. Thank you for mentioning this.
@deanb6163
@deanb6163 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing slightly different: keep your eyes up and looking ahead.
@dixienormous3262
@dixienormous3262 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin has another video that addresses that exact problem.
@1dutchmf
@1dutchmf 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Look straight forward as far as possible until you've actually stopped. You're gonna go in the direction your head is turned to and where your eyes are focused on. When stopping, that translates into balance.
@colinmanion4988
@colinmanion4988 3 жыл бұрын
Erick, rewatch video he DOES talk about that at the start
@audiogarden21
@audiogarden21 5 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to say I've spotted all three. I use proper braking technique every time as I ride a very tall bike - 36.6 inch seat height - so balance is a necessity to keep upright and stable.
@teetimeaz
@teetimeaz 5 жыл бұрын
I remember my MSA instructor saying all this. I do ride this way. But I do go against his instructions by down shifting as I stop. I still use my brakes. But I know I am always in 1st gear at the light and ready to go.
@Rawmantic92
@Rawmantic92 5 жыл бұрын
1 year only after i received my license and began to ride and yet such a short video informs me with so important details about stoping properly since in this year or riding i already forgot many important rules.Thank you
@donthejewler74
@donthejewler74 5 жыл бұрын
I've done this myself , definitely going to change this immediately .
@acopernic
@acopernic 5 жыл бұрын
As a new rider, following your channel... thank you. I learn by myself and by listening my friends i can say that most of them are using the wrong technique. 'Use only the front brake'... Why.. Because it is stronger.
@YogisCycleService
@YogisCycleService 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, I have been riding for 30 years and yes I am guilty and it usually seems like when I am 2 up of putting both feet down and there has been a time or two where at the stop I felt like we were going over. Never really thought about it but now I did and I will make sure going forward I implement that. Good stuff, thanks!
@rontina8686
@rontina8686 5 жыл бұрын
Me 2 / 35 years , 2 up, and i will try it this weekend !
@rontina8686
@rontina8686 5 жыл бұрын
It gets some getting use to, but I think I like it better and I will be a safer rider for it / thanks for the video
@tylerdavis288
@tylerdavis288 3 жыл бұрын
I'm brand new to motorcycling so I really appreciate learning the correct way to drive and make it habit. Thanks!
@ianallso2541
@ianallso2541 5 жыл бұрын
When returning home from every ride I practice this skill with a 90° turn added across the width of my driveway before reversing into the garage. Sometimes the car is parked there sometimes not, and even though there is sufficient room to perform the turn and stop with the car there, the psychological effect of the car being there always makes the maneuver more difficult. I guess more practice required.
@Brianmoto49
@Brianmoto49 5 жыл бұрын
finishing with the rear brake was something that was not taught in the various courses have take .. all focus on the use of the two bakes simultaneously...but make sense to finish with the rear brake for the last few feet and when the speed is substantially scrubbed off .. thanks Kevin for another useful tip .. keep up the good work in helping us stay safe on the road with our practical tips..
@jimhayes4000
@jimhayes4000 5 жыл бұрын
Just like in class only paperless. :) Easy listening. Fine job. Thanks Sir
@TheRicoCallao
@TheRicoCallao 3 жыл бұрын
You can't do it better. 30 years experienced driving sport bikes , new driving cruiser. This video help me a lot .Thanks
@jrarizonapatriot7570
@jrarizonapatriot7570 5 жыл бұрын
Started riding again and your channel has reminds me to be safe 🔴⚪🔵
@jetnick3576
@jetnick3576 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been riding a long time. I learned something today. All the more important because I’m helping my wife learn to ride. Will show her this video and practice together. Thanks amigo. Well done.
@2bikemikesguitartopics145
@2bikemikesguitartopics145 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I have and sometimes still do that kind of a stop. And I have also experienced the turning front wheel and trying to fall over. And on a couple of occasions I have actually dropped the bike over. Not so much these days but early years this was a bad technique I had more often. That kick back from the front forks can be extremely dangerous when using the front brake alone for hard stopping.
@984francis
@984francis 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I passed the MSF experienced rider course in 1996 and have come back to motorcycling after 20 years of ill health. To all intents and purposes then, I am a beginner. I recogonise this and have done (and will continue to do) parking lot exercises. I bought a Ducati Monster 979. Lovely bike with a comfortable position and no fairing which definitely encourages me to keep my speed down. I particularly appreciate your point about finishing the stop on the rear brake. The 979 has sintered pads and steel braided lines. It's beautifully progressive and controllable above about 5mph but below that, it's as though somebody shoved a steel bar through the front wheel. I have mashed my balls on the tank twice and that's enough of that. So, I've been working on completing my stops using the rear brake.
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY what is taught in basic police motor officer training. Well done, Kevin!!!
@billwhite7015
@billwhite7015 5 жыл бұрын
The rear brake thing sure is on the money! Seeing the video diagnosed a minor problem I had been having, and applying the technique has cured it instantly. Can't ask for more than that!
@jamesmorana.k.a.bigdawg9373
@jamesmorana.k.a.bigdawg9373 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videos I've been riding for a long time and these help keep me thinking and sharp
@JP-md4jz
@JP-md4jz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks MC, I have been guilty of the two foot stop from time to time and this small change made a world of difference.
@cbruce76
@cbruce76 5 жыл бұрын
Having recently moved up to a much heavier bike, I have definitely found this technique makes a world of difference.
@andreasnilsson4274
@andreasnilsson4274 Жыл бұрын
Good video. This is How We learn when we take our license in Sweden. As i understand the drivingtest here is different to US. Test in Sweden contain these parts: 1. Securitycheck, tires, brakes, damping, lights etc. You must understand a motorcycle. 2. Slow speed manuvering in max 7 km/h with u-turn and stops around a conecircuit. 3. Highspeed slalom with u-turn and back again and make a full stop. Not alowed to touch the cones 4. Braking in 70 and 90 km/h to full stop. If all the first is clear its step 5 going out for a ride in traffic in city and highway for at least 30 min. Many fail the test the first time. Before the drivingtest you must take theorytest and at least to riskeducations, one practical and one theory. Still it takes long time to gain experience and there is always more to learn.
@jaimebatista675
@jaimebatista675 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos--I've been on two wheels since 1971--68 years old now and still riding...Kevin, I do like to point out one thing that I think is pretty important..If your stopped and waiting to pull into traffic (with the bike in first gear) it is a good idea to keep your right hand on the brake...If that clutch cable lets go it will launch you a good four or five feet into traffic before stalling and that could very well ruin your day (if not more)...Happened to me but I was fortunate enough to just smack into the rear bumper of the car in front of me and then just fall over...Kind of embarrassed--but unhurt--if I was in front of the car I would have been rolled up by the crossing traffic..Keep up the great lessons---never too old to learn....
@axslinger99
@axslinger99 5 жыл бұрын
Ever since incorporating this technique, my stops are smoother and more more balanced. And I'm sure from other's perspective, I look like a more experienced rider. Great tip!
@glidearkansas
@glidearkansas 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, sir! As a police motorcycle instructor, this is one of my pet peeves also. We see it everywhere. Don’t ride a motorcycle 50%! Learn how to ride 100%. Your life depends on it! While stopped, I hold my clutch in (while in first gear) and keep pressure on my rear brakes. What if you need an escape? Being in neutral could cost you seconds that you need.
@nobaddaystravel6855
@nobaddaystravel6855 5 жыл бұрын
glide_arkansas my wife had trouble holding in her clutch that long while at a stop. So we got her the Rekluse Auto clutch. If you haven’t heard of one, it’s neat, it allows the bike to stay in just 1st gear and running without holding the clutch in. Gets rid of the friction zone. Great for those with weaker hands. But you still have to shift 2-6. She loves it.
@glidearkansas
@glidearkansas 5 жыл бұрын
No Bad Days Travel I’ve never heard of that and will have to check it out. Thanks for the comment! 👍
@krytenLister
@krytenLister 5 жыл бұрын
These are basic skills that all bikers should know. Maybe there is an argument to make Basic motorcycle training mandatory before you are allowed to ride on the road. I don't think it's necessary to always be stopped in 1st gear - it's something you should be assessing for each stop, based on the situation around you.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 5 жыл бұрын
No Bad Days Travel You can also get a Honda with DCT. They have a range of them, from the NC700 to Africa Twin to the Goldwing. You stay in gear, but if you let off the throttle it just rolls to a stop.
@batdude2196
@batdude2196 5 жыл бұрын
@@krytenLister in our province in Canada motorcycle training is now mandatory (and excellent) and there is also a three year graduated program you have to move through before getting your full license. It has reduced motorcycle deaths dramatically.
@stevenwaller192
@stevenwaller192 4 жыл бұрын
Great instruction. I have been practicing this technique. I am a rider returning to riding after a long period. 37 years. But the practice of using rear brake on final stop. Also in gear. But the practice was instilled back in the eighties. Motorcycles mostly had clutch cables. There was a possibility of cable failure. With right foot on the brake you could prevent launching into an intersection.
@rafborrero
@rafborrero 5 жыл бұрын
Any difference in how to stop when on an incline or decline?
@bigpapa8152
@bigpapa8152 5 жыл бұрын
Great question.
@garys9638
@garys9638 3 жыл бұрын
Totally understand but I've been using two feet for sooo many years , it is mass muscle memory now. I will continue my method. I have NEVER had an issue. If it ain't broke don't fix it! If I would have learned this year's ago...different storey. Thanks!
@carnagerecords8490
@carnagerecords8490 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I've already been doing these things and today was my second day of owning my first bike. I got a 2006 susuki boulevard M50. The feeling that came over me on my first ride on the highway is something that I can not put into words.
@defenestrationfan
@defenestrationfan 5 жыл бұрын
I am a new rider and liked the rear brake technique you demonstrated for the end of the stop and agree with staying in first gear. However during my MSF when I stopped directly in front of my instructor with one foot down shook his head no - jerked on the handle bar demonstrating how easy it is to tip over on the side without a foot down (he caught me as I began to fall - in fact I could not get my foot time in time) then smacked me on the helmet as a convincer. I think I'm going to stay with both feet down.
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
defenestrationfan You will until you get rear ended, as I was by an 18 wheeler @ 20 mph. Totaled the Harley Ultra Classic but, by God’s Grace, I walked away. Police motor officers are in the top 1% of riders in the world, they have to be. What Kevin teaches here is basic training for motor officer training. Your MSF instructor was wrong. I am living proof.
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
As you, hopefully, get into regular, advanced training, you will find MSF BRC ain’t all that.
@defenestrationfan
@defenestrationfan 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see how having both feet down (or one foot down) makes any difference when getting rear ended by an 18 wheeler. Please explain.
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
defenestrationfan Sure. I was stopped, both feet down. I was in heavy traffic, stopped on a 2 Lane Highway. When I realized the truck was not going to stop, I did not have time to get it in gear, get on the rear brake and get out of the way. Remember, rear brake’s primary function is control. Having your foot on the rear brake in gear and paying attention to what’s going on behind you in traffic will save you from this kind of accident. It really does make a difference.
@defenestrationfan
@defenestrationfan 5 жыл бұрын
Which is why I agreed with staying in gear (and having an escape route and watching the rear views) but I can pull away just as easily with both feet down and my front brake on and still be more stable at a stand still.
@guilhermesalles5696
@guilhermesalles5696 5 жыл бұрын
I had never heard about finishing the stop with the rear brake, I actually thought it was the other way around. This channel is great!
@TJRohyans
@TJRohyans 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, my technique is technically wrong then. In my defense, let me explain why I do what I do. In the city/town where I expect to have to stop frequently (not emergency stops), I begin with compression braking through the gears, and use both front and rear brakes to almost stop, but near the end I do put both feet down using just the front brake lever as the bike comes to a stop. But at this point, I'm already slower than you were in the video. My bike has linked braking. So even though I'm only actively applying the front brake, some rear brake is also being applied (the linked system applies more to the active brake and less to the inactive brake accordingly). With an almost 850 lb. bike, I rarely have to worry about uneven footing or slightly misaligned forks when I stop as long as I have both feet down. The bike stops balanced. I do leave it in gear though... unless it's a long light and there are already 3-4 or more automobiles stopped behind me. Then I give my hand a rest.
@RioShooter
@RioShooter 5 жыл бұрын
I stop the same way you do. Are you going to change to Kevin's method or continue your current method?
@TJRohyans
@TJRohyans 5 жыл бұрын
@@RioShooter - I'll stay with my current method. I also watch a lot of "Motorman" Jerry Palladino's videos (I also have his training DVD) and he recommends the method I use, especially for heavyweight cruisers like mine.
@TomFromYoutube
@TomFromYoutube 5 жыл бұрын
@@TJRohyans what bike you got?
@TJRohyans
@TJRohyans 5 жыл бұрын
@@TomFromKZbin, a 2018 Yamaha Star Eluder.
@TomFromYoutube
@TomFromYoutube 5 жыл бұрын
@@TJRohyans cool man
@jimoliver1954
@jimoliver1954 Жыл бұрын
That was very well presented. Love the split screen with the right way/wrong way. I knew the front brake at very slow speed can be be bad news but the video makes it so obvious.
@DookyShoes1
@DookyShoes1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey quick question- what about bikes with linked brakes? What would be the correct technique?
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who Good question!!! Linked brakes ONLY engage at speeds above 25 mph. Below this speed, front and rear brakes function independently.
@DookyShoes1
@DookyShoes1 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Farnell is this true of all (or most) bikes with linked brakes? Looking at a Kawasaki Concours specifically. Didn’t know they only engaged at a certain speed, makes sense and good to know. Thanks!
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who Yes, because at slow turning speeds, the front brake will pull or slam you to the ground in a heartbeat. Depending on how slow or fast you are going.
@wallaceeverett3927
@wallaceeverett3927 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimfarnell5813 All above wrong; a Honda GL1200, both brakes work at all times!
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 5 жыл бұрын
Wallace Everett Not all wrong, just wrong on that Honda... Not first time nor the last.
@jameschaplin9019
@jameschaplin9019 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 68, been riding most of my life. Went from a softail to a limited, and started developing these bad habits. After watching this video went out to practice ,on a very windy day. Can't believe how much more enjoyable riding in town is now. Thank you so much!
@sith1962
@sith1962 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have noticed that I have started using the front brakes too much.
@keithgramling5992
@keithgramling5992 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Kevin. I ride a goldwing. I use both brakes to come to a complete stop and put my left foot down, then I'll put my right foot down. While coming to the stop, shift down to first and stay in gear at the stop sign or light.
@petecurran3995
@petecurran3995 5 жыл бұрын
Good work, Mr. M! Stopping left foot down in 1st gear and foot on back brake, ready to move off, is taught from basic level UK side, known as the 'control position'. 👍🏻
@someone46018
@someone46018 5 жыл бұрын
Left foot on the ground and right foot on the rear brake applies specially when you have to stop going up a steep hill. One day my shifting fork failed, I couldn't shift from 3rd to 2nd going up a crazy steep hill, I had to stop to try to downshift the thing, I couldn't get my right foot off the rear brake because with just the front brake the bike would drag downhill because all the weight was on the rear, I had to ask the driver of the car coming behind me to help me downshift the darn thing, lol.
@danocreations
@danocreations 5 жыл бұрын
Why haven't you just used the front brake while standing, taken your right foot down and shifted down?
@someone46018
@someone46018 5 жыл бұрын
@@danocreations because the bike drags downhill, on a steep uphill all the weight is focused on the rear wheel, the front loses grip easily.
@jpuglio1
@jpuglio1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help just upgraded to a big bike and was struggling with this.
@STho205
@STho205 5 жыл бұрын
Sportbikes have rear brakes? Go figure.
@FrapachinoPlz
@FrapachinoPlz 5 жыл бұрын
S Tho 😂
@STho205
@STho205 5 жыл бұрын
Then again. Heavy Cruisers have front brakes? Go figure!
@missnukkinfutz
@missnukkinfutz 5 жыл бұрын
🤣
@patrickmaloney8717
@patrickmaloney8717 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I am now 70 and ride with forward controls. The combination of that and being vertically challenged, has recently made me realize that i would be better of with mid controls. Less stretch to the rear brake which has become a little awkward at my advanced age. Ha ha. Great video. Subscribed
@LSwaggy
@LSwaggy 4 жыл бұрын
Always had problems with full stops from fast speeds in my Big Burgman 650... Definitely will start doing this. Thank you!
@kmg501
@kmg501 5 жыл бұрын
I have known for a while that my stopping technique can be really shoddy and sloppy when I get lazy and this video illustrates that failing quite well. Very well done MCrider and thank you for getting me to focus properly on technique.
@Geo_357
@Geo_357 4 жыл бұрын
Moving from a 2018 Fat Bob to a 2020 Street Glide and it’s good to revisit some of your videos...thank you
@robertferguson1447
@robertferguson1447 5 жыл бұрын
We still have snow on the roads up here in NY but that video made soo much sense and I see mistakes I make at stop signs even though I been riding a few years. Can't wait for the roads to clear to try this technique
@robkober9139
@robkober9139 3 жыл бұрын
My new 800+ lb bagger is a whole different animal than any other bikes I’ve owned. This is a great resource.
@4leafclover853
@4leafclover853 4 жыл бұрын
I just passed my cbt which I thought was VERY basic and am scouring youtube for tips. I've found your vids the most helpful and thorough for learners; your demenour is also extremely trustworthy for inexperienced eyes and ears! Much appreciated, thanks!
@nonaubiz8939
@nonaubiz8939 5 жыл бұрын
As always, great advice and reminder for those of us that have been riding over 50 years.
@addisonwilliamsjr4450
@addisonwilliamsjr4450 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Kevin. Just went from a scooter to a big bike, and I need all the help I can get. Thank you for this easily digestible bite that I can turn over in my brain every time I come to a stop. See you next time!
@robertmullen6453
@robertmullen6453 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a ultra classic... I was riding a Harley Deuce... your video helped me thank you.. and always keep that shiny side up!
@jonmajarucon51
@jonmajarucon51 5 жыл бұрын
Every instructor has told me to use both breaks but have NEVER explained how or demonstrated this technique. You are the BEST. Thanks Jon
@jonmajarucon51
@jonmajarucon51 5 жыл бұрын
I mean "Brakes" sorry. .
@sublimefan661
@sublimefan661 5 жыл бұрын
I am new to riding, like just got my first bike last night new and this simple tip just made things 1000x easier. THANK YOU KEVIN! Please keep the videos coming, I watch just about every one!
@MegaChang9
@MegaChang9 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, you are way better than any instructors out there. Subscribed!
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