This UNNOTICED Screw Detail Makes a Big Difference! (COARSE THREAD vs. FINE THREAD)

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The Honest Carpenter

The Honest Carpenter

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@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын
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@thebewitchinghour831
@thebewitchinghour831 Жыл бұрын
Growing up, my dad taught me and my sister the two "basic screws" and had us retrieve them every time so we learned. "Go to the workbench and grab me a handful of "wood screws". "Go to the workbench and grab me a handful of "sheet metal screws". My dad was a jack of all trades and a master mechanic where he worked so he knew them all in detail but that was just his easy way of teaching us when we were little. I always loved dad's life lessons. He's a very smart man.
@stevenwymor1398
@stevenwymor1398 Жыл бұрын
BTW, my high school AP Physics teacher told us that a screw is essentially just a conical or cylindrical section with an inclined plane wrapped around the section. It was a cool explanation about how we use simple geometry to do so much work for us. That was over 40 years ago, and I still think about it every time a use a screw. Some lessons just stick with you forever.
@Kittyququmber
@Kittyququmber Жыл бұрын
Interesting, remembering my junior school math teacher telling me two points make a straight line. I could not grasp what he meant. Yet now decades later i always remember him when cutting or sewing a straight line🙏
@rickyspanish9625
@rickyspanish9625 Жыл бұрын
Yep just a big spiraled wedge, and a wedge needs to have a normal force to produce friction and stay tight. Which is why when people set toilets without the plastic washers under the metal ones they eventually come loose due to the lack of deformation of the plastic. As a plumber I see this often.
@planerdude88
@planerdude88 Жыл бұрын
Until the Alzheimer's hits
@MrCaveman74
@MrCaveman74 Жыл бұрын
I recall a similar definition from the show Big Bang Theory. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqHRp4ZtoLJnfNUsi=V8kemaLkun0YZHZi
@Nurturing2
@Nurturing2 11 ай бұрын
SO COOL❣️
@cajunsurvivor
@cajunsurvivor Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fast straight to the point videos that actually bring value. This is a rare commodity on KZbin. Thank you
@dirtfarmer7472
@dirtfarmer7472 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with you get it got it good. Don’t waste my time with a long intro, just get on with it.
@tomasprochazka6198
@tomasprochazka6198 Жыл бұрын
It's because he has something to say.
@aliciafranco5704
@aliciafranco5704 Жыл бұрын
I can always count on honest carpenter to show me the right way to DIY❤
@partsdave8943
@partsdave8943 Жыл бұрын
“This is the way…” Couldn’t resist a Mandalorian reference. 😊
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alicia! 🙂
@taylorharrison3585
@taylorharrison3585 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. As a DYI guy, I love learning all this stuff so I can so I can do it right. Thank you!
@tedspens
@tedspens Жыл бұрын
I've always known fine thread for hardwood and course thread for softwood, but I never really thought about it in such detail. Thanks for the deep dive into the topic. I'll pay more attention to which type of screw I use for given applications.
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 Жыл бұрын
Fine thread is often used for metals as well.
@vazpayd2270
@vazpayd2270 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for another great video. In these past three years you have helped elevate the quality of my projects by like 35%. That's a lot
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you, vaz! I take great pride in a 35% margin 😄
@vladislavshatilov1711
@vladislavshatilov1711 Жыл бұрын
Coarse-thread screws are generally used for quick assembly, while fine-thread screws provide better holding strength. Coarse threads are more resistant to stripping, making them suitable for softer materials, while fine threads are effective in harder materials. The choice depends on the specific application and materials being used.
@cytoarchitect
@cytoarchitect 10 ай бұрын
You're right to feel offended, since that was obviously a personal comment directed at you alone. Despite the fact that the sole purpose of that comment was to insult your intelligence however, I thought it was useful to see this comment and have the question answered in about a second, as opposed to having to sit through an entire 5 min video@@n40tom
@n40tom
@n40tom 10 ай бұрын
@cytoarchitect And if I offended you then I apologize also. I think I might have been having a bad night so I will delete my first comment . Take care and be safe
@cytoarchitect
@cytoarchitect 10 ай бұрын
We all have bad days. The world needs more integrity and humility, as you've shown. I respect you for that. Keep your head up brother @@n40tom
@mr.c6674
@mr.c6674 Жыл бұрын
THIS is one of those videos that makes notice of the intricate details of screw fasteners I would have never thought about. I'm a DIY'er, and I know there are coarse and fine options, but never gave much thought as to why. I always simply thought the screw was crappy if it didn't go through the wood or metal well. Thank you for this.
@gizmo7877
@gizmo7877 Жыл бұрын
I learn so much from you as a novice 77 year old woman who loves working with wood. I know all these tips help to create a better outcome. I craft and DIY a lot so these tips come in handy. You know so much about so much! Glad I found your site.
@sebastienboisvert8561
@sebastienboisvert8561 Жыл бұрын
The drywall screw thread type finally makes sense after all these years, I made the mistake to buy fine thread once and it was the worst time installing drywall. Thanks for the explanations, always well delivered and easy to understand.
@JCtheMusicMan_
@JCtheMusicMan_ Жыл бұрын
I learned at an early age through experimentation that screw thread spacing is related to the material you are screwing into, which you so clearly explain! ❤
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks JC! With enough experimenting, it all starts to become clear. 😁
@JCtheMusicMan_
@JCtheMusicMan_ Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter absolutely! Learning the hard way has always been my default due to impatience and just grabbing the nearest “screw”. As I got older I decided that going to the hardware store to get the right tools for the job was an overall time and materials saver, which I learned by doing it wrong 🤣
@throatwobblermangrove8510
@throatwobblermangrove8510 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Not only was it good information, but your illustrations were great and your explanations were well-paced and in-depth without being pedantic or condescending.
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sparing us the long-winded intro and getting straight to the point. Your lack of gratuitousness and concise, efficient tutorial has earned you another subscriber. Now it's time for me to check out your back catalogue of videos!
@WilliamStrawnJoe
@WilliamStrawnJoe 9 ай бұрын
Dude. I’ve always wondered why there was different threads on dry wall screws etc. your explanation was so on point. Thanks for sharing!
@rickrudd
@rickrudd Жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel just did a pull-out test in hard maple and found them to be almost identical. Softwoods are probably a lot different.
@tgp-rq2wi
@tgp-rq2wi Жыл бұрын
Great video! Maybe you could do one on the different types of screws, like wood screws, machine screws, etc. and how to tell the difference by looking at the heads, and why the heads are the shape they are. Keep up the great work!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Great idea, tgp! I will indeed do that video. So much to be said about screws!
@l.clevelandmajor9931
@l.clevelandmajor9931 10 ай бұрын
I took woodshop classes for three years in school and was taught the difference between the different threads on screws in the first two weeks of my first year. I never forgot that lesson because the teacher demonstrated his lessons so that we all were able to cement the knowledge in our minds. In that same year I learned about other joining techniques as well, including dovetail joints. In my later years I went to college and took carpentry classes just to get the credentials for what I already knew. By that time I had become a woodworker extraordinaire, with the skills to fit cabinetry to the interior walls of buses. I was already a good cabinet and furniture designer and maker. The biggest reason for having such high skills in woodworking is because my father, his father, and his father's father were all woodworkers, and I learned most of my knowledge from them. Like my grandfather I got into designing and making furniture, not because it made money for me, but because it is an artform, and is a lot of fun to do. The money I made doing it was just a bonus for doing what I love so well.
@busman2050
@busman2050 8 ай бұрын
Pat yourself on the back
@nikiTricoteuse
@nikiTricoteuse Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love that you got straight to the point with clear succinct explanations interspersed with some great demonstrations of how, where and why. Some content creators seem to love the sound of their own voices more than they love actually teaching/demonstrating anything. As a middle aged spinster on a fixed income, l've had to teach myself all sorts of DIY skills over the years. I nearly didn't bother watching this cos, my first thought was, - Meh, screws apart from, wood, metal, drywall or self tapping. What's to know? - I love how wrong l was. l was hoping you'd also clarify why the unthreaded part varies in length but, you may have done that in other videos. Have subscribed and am off to learn some more from your other videos. Thanks. 😊
@Michael-iw3ek
@Michael-iw3ek Жыл бұрын
I love the straight to the point approach. Only 40 seconds (about 12% of the video's length) are wasted on useless introductions and commercials.
@busman2050
@busman2050 8 ай бұрын
Theres ine guy.on you tube that spends 30 minutes telling us hiw you can tell difference between fake and real milwaukee batteries
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 11 ай бұрын
Great, easy to understand coverage of an often overlooked construction & woodworking detail. Thanks for making us smarted.
@davidleung2432
@davidleung2432 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very clear explanation of the different tread sizes of screws. Can you please give some comments on the different lengths of the unthreaded shanks on different types of screws?
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Gonna cover that soon, David!
@paulzirker706
@paulzirker706 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video ethan. I learnt something fine screws threads for hardwoods.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul! 👍
@coyotech55
@coyotech55 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, that was a good and helpful explanation. I knew most of this through trial and error, but hadn't thought it through: why those fine threads suck on soft wood, or why sheet metal and pole barn screws are both fine and coarse, or why those fine thread door closer screws they supply always rip out of my pine door frame on a windy day.
@MarshWaha
@MarshWaha Жыл бұрын
Love the honest carpenter channel, best channel ever.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
😁😁
@davidskidmore1670
@davidskidmore1670 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering a long-standing question I’ve had. Great explanation. Thank you!
@sirensynapse5603
@sirensynapse5603 6 ай бұрын
I love those screws with two different thread types that really pull two pieces of wood tightly together. They really work!
@billashby7858
@billashby7858 Жыл бұрын
To add a little to what you said, when screwing into steel studs you can usually drill into 20 to 25ga metal with a "good" fine thread sharp point screw, however drilling into anything heavier would require a self drilling fine threaded screw! Attaching plywood into heavy gauge metal (18ga or heavier) you can use what they call a ply metal tek with wings, no predrilling required!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the extra info, Bill!
@cyn4rest
@cyn4rest Жыл бұрын
Love your Channel! You’ve saved me so much grief over the years that I can’t even quantify it! Huge! Lol. Thanks so much.
@NickatLateNite
@NickatLateNite 8 ай бұрын
As a 30 yr. kitchen remodeler, installing mostly oak cabinets, I always pre-drilled the face frame, used Jorgensen wood clamps & Ivory soaped, fine threaded screws👍
@garymiller5937
@garymiller5937 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ethan. I knew that but I appreciate the in-depth explanation. I really enjoy your videos. You do an excellent job presenting your material and excitedly await your new content. 😊😊😊😊😊
@anthonytruta2745
@anthonytruta2745 Жыл бұрын
I've use drywall screws for years. And noticed that it took the same amount of time to screw either a coarse or fine drywall screw ( at least the ones I've been using ) and noticed that the fine thread drywall screws have a double helix so the thread pitch between the two are exactly the same. Something to ponder!
@robertmeadows1657
@robertmeadows1657 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I’m not sure he even understands that.
@DennisMoore664
@DennisMoore664 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate clear and and concise information so I really appreciate your content. Thanks for another great video, Honest Carpenter dude!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Orwellian! I appreciate the positive feedback 😄
@Megrim3
@Megrim3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me how to properly screw.
@Grumpyoldman037
@Grumpyoldman037 Жыл бұрын
I have been using fasteners for more years than I remember, but this video not only was a good refresher, it clarifies a few points for me. A must-watch video for all woodworkers. P.S. I just subscribed.
@jamiekent1970
@jamiekent1970 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation for the screw thread types most appreciated 👍 Could you be persuaded to do a video on nail types too, ie the twisted nails you use for joist hangers etc.. ❤
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
I’ll definitely cover some nails in the future too, Jamie!
@MBMCincy63
@MBMCincy63 Жыл бұрын
Yes Ethan takes the details and makes them clear. Thanks for your knowledge sharing. 🥶🖤🔔👍🏻❤️
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Mary Beth!
@khervinjaycolita
@khervinjaycolita Жыл бұрын
Just in time for my project. About to order a bunch when I encountered this two types. About to DIY a Loft bed and some cabinets. Thanks for the very informative video.
@surelywoo
@surelywoo Жыл бұрын
I knew the general idea of the difference, but this added some details that I had not considered. Thanks!
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 Жыл бұрын
I like the course threads with a groove at the beginning that cuts a hole for the threads, stops splitting at the edge of boards.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Yep, self-tapping threads. Great innovation!
@danstheman33
@danstheman33 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheHonestCarpenterhe's not describing self-tapping threads, he's just talking about the 'type 17' point or the cut tip (with various trade names) that helps the screw self-drill in wood. My pet peeve is when people confuse 'self-drilling' with 'self tapping'. Pretty much any screw with sharp threads is self-tapping. And the term 'self-drilling' only really applies to metal, because in wood and other soft materials, pretty much any screw with a sharp point is self-drilling, even if it doesn't have any special cutting tip. And if we really want to get technical, even 'thread forming' screws are different from 'thread cutting', I'm honestly not sure the difference, but I would describe both as 'self-tapping'.
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
1:15 OUCH BRUH!
@brettbarager9101
@brettbarager9101 11 ай бұрын
"It's a small detail but makes a big difference." Well said! Many years ago, I installed a drywall ceiling over resilient channel. Unfortunately, I used coarse thread (was quite inexperienced at the time) and it did not hold well at all! Took a long time to redo it with the proper screws (and then remove the coarse thread screws). What a mess! Certainly a lesson learned the hard way!
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw Жыл бұрын
IIRC, only 3-4 threads of a bolt will actually be engaged. I assume a similar effect is in play for screws. Where things get wonky is with fit classes.
@JackKirbyFan
@JackKirbyFan Жыл бұрын
Nate, you are the man! Great video and I myself never considered it but knew it through experience - but without thinking too much about it. Ironic for me. I often overthink everything. You explained it well. Thank you.
@1959mikel
@1959mikel Жыл бұрын
That’s good to know, thanks for pointing that out because sometimes I don’t have the fine thread. As Ethan points out here, the way they go in makes a difference and i pre drill hardwoods and so far so good, although i do experience that squeak once in a while.
@marymendoza3351
@marymendoza3351 Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is exactly the info I needed…coincidently I’ve been trying to figure out oak that is the outer wood & pine which is the inner…thanks!
@craighellberg4366
@craighellberg4366 Жыл бұрын
Now, that is the exact opposite that I thought it would be. Once again, another educational video. Thank you!
@claireebedard1153
@claireebedard1153 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of niche knowledge I come here to find. Keep up the good work!
@ronniekeates3349
@ronniekeates3349 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, concise compilation of information on screw threads. Thank you. I learned stuff today 😁
@punterjac8695
@punterjac8695 2 ай бұрын
What screws do you believe would suit in attaching timber paling (fence) to a solid brick. I plan on using a green wall plug 7mmx35mm and a 60mm stainless steel screw. These paling are exposed to wind, rain and moisture. I have learnt that fine threaded screws are better as they cut the plastic wall plug better but I want to learn from users who have experience with wall plugs in brick. Thanks
@jublywubly
@jublywubly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It's good to know I remembered why they have different threads.
@hupguan
@hupguan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, it's really useful. I normally don't even notice the difference, but will look out for it now. 😀😄
@danwaller5312
@danwaller5312 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so good I save his videos BEFORE I even watch them!!
@zalafinari
@zalafinari Жыл бұрын
I'd love a follow up on the varying threads for nuts/bolts. I've been working on used ebike hub motors and the axles have been mostly M12 and 1.25 thread pitch but when trying to locate replacement nuts or considering rethreading due to current threads being stripped, it's been confusing trying to figure out how/why the varying thread pitches are used. I'm now wondering if it's similar where more dense metals use finer thread pitches and softer or less dense use coarser threads?
@zalafinari
@zalafinari Жыл бұрын
@@eder60hz51it's not the nut with the stripped thread, it's the axle unfortunately. I did actually use a die to rethread one but in doing so I lost most of the "flat" of the axle that sits in the dropout.
@fernandonunez8333
@fernandonunez8333 Жыл бұрын
Almost all the screws I use for wood, and varied boards, have a serrated edge, tipical of the "Spax" brand. Recently I had to use a good bunch of them for fixing chipboards to an structure of steel square tubes. It was surprising how many of the screws became broken, until realizing that serrated edge and metal weren´t good friends.
@johnwalenski1555
@johnwalenski1555 Жыл бұрын
Regarding those Spax screws, I find the GRK brand far superior in terms of staying on your driver tip and not spinning out. I believe the star heads on the GRK's are made deeper.
@danstheman33
@danstheman33 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnwalenski1555I agree that GRK screws are much higher than Spax. I've had a bunch of Spax screws be defective right out of the box, and they seem weaker and more poorly made overall (I can't recall if I've ever snapped one, but I only use those once in a while anyway). That said, using wood screws (with cut drilling tip or not) in metal is just dumb, regardless of the brand.
@johnwalenski1555
@johnwalenski1555 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Jumped the gun a bit with my comment, saw "spax" and had to get my 2 cents worth in. Certainly not my first choice for fastening into metal!
@dino.jay2007
@dino.jay2007 11 ай бұрын
Ethan, maybe consider expanding this topic to also consider material type ... such as using cement board (alkali resistant) or pressure treated wood and ACQ screws?
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 Жыл бұрын
This was a big help and you explained a lot of things I had not considered before! Thanks for sharing this.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, John!
@MrZooBreak
@MrZooBreak 11 ай бұрын
Nice presentation. Simple and to the point.
@thomasstambaugh5181
@thomasstambaugh5181 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if fine-threaded drywall screws in maple remain tighter under load than their coarse-threaded counterparts. I'm here because we have two expensive maple kitchen stools that are constantly getting wobbly because the drywall screws used to attach the seats to the legs get loose after a few weeks of use. The last time I tightened them, I noticed that the screws are coarse-threaded drywall screws. The next time they loosen, I'm going to try replacing the screws on one with fine-threaded drywall screws. The video doesn't mention whether or not the thread style affects the long-term holding ability of a drywall screw in hardwood (like maple). I'm curious to see if using a fine-threaded screw improves my two maple kitchen stools.
@clarkosaurus
@clarkosaurus 2 ай бұрын
I tend to avoid DIY projects because my knowledge of tools and their use is limited. I’m 60 but love learning this stuff on your channel.
@billm2158
@billm2158 8 ай бұрын
Good explanations and concise video. Use of grammatically incorrect verbs like "pre drill" irks me though - they are pilot holes!
@briansullivan1927
@briansullivan1927 Жыл бұрын
This guy is honest...and also a master carpenter, hence the name '' honest carpenter.''
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Brian! 😁
@citronm1405
@citronm1405 Жыл бұрын
I just thought they made different types of screws! This was very informative. Thanks!
@grillingitup64
@grillingitup64 Жыл бұрын
What is the tool that he pre-drilled a countersink with on the MDF? Thanks very much for the video! I learned a lot.
@davepowder4020
@davepowder4020 Жыл бұрын
Once again, my time on an Honest Carpenter video is time VERY WELL SPENT! 😀
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
👍😁
@crabwalk7773
@crabwalk7773 Жыл бұрын
Nail pops. Have you ever covered these? (I bought a condo and had about 7 nail pops between two rooms. Now I have a few dozen between [almost?] every room.)
@umchoyka
@umchoyka Жыл бұрын
Nail pops in drywall are due to the wood studs drying out after the drywall is installed. Typically, framing lumber is fairly wet when fresh from the mill and construction sites will not wait for it to dry out before installing. This means that after the first few months after installation, the wood itself shrinks. When drywall is installed over top of this, even if the drywall screws are installed correctly to begin with, they get pulled through the top layer of paper that the drywall is made of. Unfortunately, because drywall's strength is only from the connection between a properly installed screw and the paper layer, this results in the screw being "loose" in the drywall and will eventually reveal itself as a popped screw. The fix is relatively easy, just remove the popped screw and add two additional screws above and below the old screw hole. You will have to then go back and add drywall compound (mud) to fill in the holes and cover the new screws. Then repaint the wall.
@billashby7858
@billashby7858 Жыл бұрын
A lot of builders use drywall nails and these are what usually "pop" however what @umchoyka said in the other reply is correct!
@crabwalk7773
@crabwalk7773 Жыл бұрын
@@umchoyka Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It's greatly appreciated.
@crabwalk7773
@crabwalk7773 Жыл бұрын
@@billashby7858 Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It's greatly appreciated.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
🙋‍♂️ETHAN …THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THE DETAILS 🧐 HELPING OLD AND NEW ONES 🤗👍💚💚💚
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
You’re welcomed, Budget! 😄
@synthwave7
@synthwave7 Жыл бұрын
What is the best screws to use on a door hinge -like a house front door. No matter which screws I use, after time, they become loose and the door drops to the one side ?
@KacieCharles-h1n
@KacieCharles-h1n Жыл бұрын
I thought this was super helpful! Thank you so very much for your channel.
@paul756uk2
@paul756uk2 10 ай бұрын
Are they often referred to as single and twin threaded screws? They are here in the UK.
@TH-mn6rf
@TH-mn6rf Жыл бұрын
Writing from Taiwan, thanks for the to the point video!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy to hear from Taiwan 😄
@jasonl2095
@jasonl2095 Жыл бұрын
How many hours of draft scripts did this take!? Very informative and easy to understand. I imagine there were drafts of this episode that made little to no sense as you figured out the best way to present the subject. Well done.
@sethtenrec
@sethtenrec Жыл бұрын
Why would that be? It’s an extremely simple explanation. An expert should be able to do it in one take.
@jasonl2095
@jasonl2095 Жыл бұрын
Why would you go out of your way to troll a stranger? A decent human being would recognize a compliment when they see it.
@sethtenrec
@sethtenrec Жыл бұрын
@@jasonl2095 not out of my way at all…no problem! And I’m not trolling … quit simping
@josephtaub20
@josephtaub20 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis! But somewhat unrelated, I much prefer the Canadian Robertson screw heads--the square hole won't strip or cam out like phillips screw heads do, and hold the driver MUCH better than flathead screws. Uncommon in the USA and elsewhere, but easily ordered from Canada!
@stephenpike3147
@stephenpike3147 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I was brought up on flat and cross/ Phillips head screws. Found the Robertsons are so much better and also cope better when screwdriver not quite in line for those awkward to get to screws, so I have converted to. Only disadvantage is head can more easily fill with paint or grit etc over time; nothing that can’t be easily removed with a sharp object before undoing the screw.
@VR46Monster
@VR46Monster Жыл бұрын
yesterday we bought 2 packs of drywall screws.. one fine and second course :D now i will know whats the difference
@visiblepain7676
@visiblepain7676 6 ай бұрын
Needed this to differentiate whether or not it was the right borrowed screws from my aunt
@B.Ies_T.Nduhey
@B.Ies_T.Nduhey 11 ай бұрын
I sort of knew that from own experience, but I don't always honor or observe it, sometimes owed to lack of the best screws for the task at hand... That's stupid I know, but then, it's only DIY 😆 and normally, there's no great load or huge area involved. What I didn't know is that it boggles fastness of joints generally. Which, btw, you could have made more of a point of instead of just implying it 😁 So, I'll put more awareness to chosing my screws in the future! And I thank you very much for making a point here!🙏🏽🤩🌞
@DEarls-ye9tz
@DEarls-ye9tz Жыл бұрын
I love GRK structural screws 😄 They're super strong.
@NevilofMars
@NevilofMars Жыл бұрын
I have wondered about the reason for difference in thread pitch for those screws.
@doobielawson702
@doobielawson702 Жыл бұрын
Information I didn't know I needed lol. Your videos are always excellent!
@gillgetter3004
@gillgetter3004 Жыл бұрын
Used to use screws that were called hi-lo that had one thread hi and alternate low. They also had a bugle head, kind of a in between anything fastener. Haven’t seen them in years wonder if they still exist?
@ryanfeeley2407
@ryanfeeley2407 Жыл бұрын
They do! Most commonly with plastic or mdf. These days there are specialty screws with narrow flank angles (so thin thread of a harder steel) that have largely displaced them.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn Жыл бұрын
I started doing drywall on metal studs with fine thread screws. Then when I tried it with coarse thread screws I found it work better even though it doesn't seem like it would. I never have problems with nail pops either.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 Жыл бұрын
The drywall stops it from wobbling and since it's going into thin metal there's not really a difference in strength; they're both being held in by 1 thread. Coarse thread probably goes in faster, which is important for professional work.
@Darren51283
@Darren51283 8 ай бұрын
When finishing my basement, I had to maximize ceiling height beneath some heating plenums so I strapped using 1x4's but then had to use metal drywall screws because the 1 5/8" wood screws were too long by about 1/4".
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, 1-5:8 can be a really inconvenient size sometimes…
@lightningbauer
@lightningbauer Жыл бұрын
What a great video! He answered a question I didn't even know I had.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
😁😁
@libertyforall5764
@libertyforall5764 3 ай бұрын
Is it ok to use dry wall screws for building something out of 2x4’s no drywall just ordinary 2x4’s?
@offthefront7537
@offthefront7537 7 ай бұрын
Does this also applies to bolts as fine as fine and coarse thread? Would love to see a video on this issue.
@jsmall10671
@jsmall10671 8 ай бұрын
Never even thought about some of that, great vid.
@ourtube4266
@ourtube4266 9 ай бұрын
If anyone is interested the efficient engineer has a fantastic video about the driving principals behind threaded fasteners and why they’re so strong.
@MrRockydee07
@MrRockydee07 Жыл бұрын
If you build a house with screws instead of nails, will the buildings flexibility over time snap the screws.
@rawleramjag6948
@rawleramjag6948 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I would always listen to opinion of a man with workman's hands.
@sig9girl
@sig9girl Жыл бұрын
Great explanation! I’m trying to hang some cat shelves from my ceiling. The problem I’ve come across, neither the screws nor the bit I use to pre drill the holes are going in? They go so far then stop. I used my stud finder first, still nothing is working? What am I doing wrong?
@bogtrottername7001
@bogtrottername7001 Жыл бұрын
High rise building ??? Possible concrete floor above is your ceiling ?
@alfonso704
@alfonso704 Жыл бұрын
They both hold my electrical boxes just fine 😅 But I’m glad to finally learn this lol tbh I kinda knew this info because I did noticed I found myself only using fine thread screws on metal finishes.
@dzcav3
@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the full-diameter, unthreaded portion of fine-threaded screws (2:45) defeats the non-splitting purpose of fine threads by expanding the wood excessively (unless you pre-drill a larger pilot hole in that portion of the face wood).
@vknglion
@vknglion Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. For years I've always really wondered about this, Had a general idea about the differences, but this helped me really understand them. Also, really TGP's idea for a video about all the different head screws. That would definitely be a great video. Thanks for all the great info you provide. Take care
@agrayday7816
@agrayday7816 Жыл бұрын
thanks! do you have piece on making sure your bit driver matches the proper head? often times people use the wrong size bit driver size for the screw they are driving, also the difference in putting in screws with an impact driver vs a torque set drill.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna cover that agray! #1, #2, pozidrive, etc…
@corydalus981
@corydalus981 Жыл бұрын
I HATE that squeak when driving a screw into hardwood (or hard plastic like acrylic) because it is often followed by the screw breaking. I tend to back out when I hear it and drill a slightly bigger pilot hole. My Dad also taught me to lube screws with soap or wax before use, which seems to help a lot. Love your channel, BTW.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter Жыл бұрын
Great tips, Cory! 😄
@marcbarash6045
@marcbarash6045 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ethan
@MrTPF1
@MrTPF1 Жыл бұрын
Never knew the difference. Thanks!
@curtisfulton1442
@curtisfulton1442 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels
@JamieE76
@JamieE76 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so interesting and detailed! :)
@jd3497
@jd3497 Жыл бұрын
What about the Hi-Lo drywall screw,
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