This Was One of WWI's Most Despised Weapons

The German sawback bayonet was the subject of intense propaganda and fear for both sides in World War I. Entente Press vilified Germany for its "barbaric" design (while ignoring similar weapons in its own armies) and German soldiers deliberately lost them after hearing what might happen if they were captured with them.
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[@avenpreston2001]

Meanwhile serrated shovel: hold my beer

[@HomingRocket1]

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[@pandudipanusantara4358]

​@@HomingRocket1for the emperor

[@a-red_digit6644]

Marketgarden

[@godlymegatron5698]

Random Big Stick on the ground. *Sees mood kindred.* DA FIGHTZ! Let me in. Let me in. LET ME IN!

[@FalloutUrMum]

Shovel is a quick death, the issue with the serrated knife was that it caused you to slowly bleed out from a wound that was difficult to treat.

[@Rolf_Son_Of_A_Shepard]

Bayonetting an enemy can be fun in BF1, but when the enemy bayonets you out of nowhere in the thick fog that's the spooky

[@frankschultz4288]

More like the bullshit

[@DornyWorny]

Osowiec, then and again Attack of the dead hundred men Facing the led once again Hundred men Charge again Die again

[@camarofish344]

This implies that you can actually hit a bayonet, instead of being lasered down by 17 men the moment you go for it

[@griffindr666]

Bayonet Chargers are cool and all right up until you have to fucking turn. then your enemy just shoots in the back of the head cuz you can't turn around quick enough😂

[@Rolf_Son_Of_A_Shepard]

@@griffindr666 that's true on so many levels

[@rydermaroevich5384]

Battlefield one has to be in the top 3 best battlefield games of all time

[@ziadx]

It's the best battlefield according to reddit

[@aaronwald9417]

BF 1, 3, 4, and Bad Company 2. Best in the series for me.

[@n8zog584]

​@@ziadx yeah, that one got a bunch of peoples britches in a twist

[@SturmtruppKriegGaming1916]

BFV was good, but the only thing I don't like is the inclusion of female soldiers as characters for each country. While there were women in combat positions in WW2, it wasn't very common.

[@aston-leehornby7394]

​@@SturmtruppKriegGaming1916 for me its the unrealistic camos and attachments and not to mention how no matter the side your on you get access to all guns 😑

[@Dapandalover]

Not even that one dude running away could escape the bayonet

[@Flakfire]

he just died tired

[@Dapandalover]

@@Flakfire fr

[@SturmtruppKriegGaming1916]

Your character runs faster than normal while bayonet charging, that's why you sometimes see people randomly bayonet charging for no reason, that and because the scream is hilarious

[@Dapandalover]

@@SturmtruppKriegGaming1916 I know lol. I was just making a joke

[@The_Raptor]

Yeah, since your character runs fastest while Bayonet Charging, so it's quite useful to get to and from cover quickly, despite the movement speed penalty after charging

[@clean04si]

The screaming bayonet charge went so hard in battlefield.

[@ricardorascon88]

The screaming was also your sign to get t f OUTTA THE WAY !!!

[@jonathanguzman3044]

Yes it’s honestly what turned me off from call of duty when I realized they wouldn’t ever do anything as cool as the screaming bayonet charge

[@Moodbloom]

Still does!

[@MoMoMoVT]

​@@jonathanguzman3044Didn't the previous world war 2 cod have a bayonet charge tho? I vividly remember there being one! It was fun as hell

[@jonathanguzman3044]

@@MoMoMoVT which one? Cod has made like 5 different ww2 games. Was it the most recent one vanguard? I stopped playing cod after black ops 2

[@justsomeguy8669]

Remarque mentions these saw blade bayonets in „all quiet on the western front“ and how more experienced soldiers saw to it that recruits fitted with them would exchange them asap since the damage and pain they dealt to their victims was so gruesome that those caught wielding them by the entente forces were brutally killed. (He also describes how the preferred weapon for close combat were actually shovels with sharpened blades and hand grenades - grenades to stir up the trench and shovels to finish off the survivors. Apparently, a shovel was both easier to wield and could literally split a man in half from the neck down to the stomach. Really, quite terrifying descriptions of violence in that book)

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

Not quite, he specifically talks about how the enemy hated the sight of the serrated bayonets and would brutally punish anyone they captured with one, but he doesn't ever suggest that the serrated ones leave more severe wounds. Indeed he argued the opposite, that the serrations just make the problem of bayonets getting jammed in an enemy worse.

[@powerbox5451]

not to disrespect the guy or anything but the part about cutting people in half is either some mistranslation, bad wording or he saw something wrong (maybe due to stress, adrenaline etc). a shovel like that weighs 0,730 kg while a 2 handed medieval war axe (1-3kg) cannot do such a cut (stops around the ribcage). i'd quess it's bad translation or he thought he saw that maybe when someone struk down with a shovel and cut trough the outside of a soldiers body

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

@@powerbox5451 It's OP misremembering. What he actually says is "The sharpened spade is a more handy and multi-sided weapon. Not only can it be used for jabbing a man under the chin, but it also is better for striking with due to its greater weight; and if one hits between the neck and shoulder it easily cleaves as far down as the chest." So, much closer to what can be accomplished with an axe.

[@justsomeguy8669]

@@powerbox5451 I read the book in the original German, so it’s no mistranslation, but rather me not remembering right; it actually says „from the neck to the chest“ (it says so on page 94 - of course depending on what version/what language you are reading it in). Since Remarque fought in ww1 (though only a few months directly on the front lines) I deem this rather believable

[@justsomeguy8669]

@@whensomethingcriesagain yes thank you I indeed didn’t remember right

[@coconutcookie4274]

In a war with flamethrowers, I don't think that sawback blades should come up.

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

In a war with the m1897, nothing should come up

[@Mars_junior]

Let's not forget chemical weapons that eat you from the inside out

[@bigben9492]

Flame troop & chemical weapons were used strategically. I wouldn't want a flame trooper sitting in the trench, would rather save them for stationary objectives like a pillbox or house. Wouldn't wanna set off my mustard gas while the wind is all over the place. Rather stick with bombardment then advance.

[@Erucus]

@@SnailSnail-lo4pmshotguns really don’t cause unnecessary suffering like chemicals or being burnt alive

[@shatzngiggles8911]

Dudes defending the nazis

[@archerhewitt385]

"Causes unnecessary suffering" Yeah, the bayonet stab itself isn't.😅

[@voidishprattles4319]

Ikr? Machine guns that mow down hundreds of men. Tanks that crush people in trenches. Poison gas that kills you from the inside. All totally cool. But a blade with some teeth on it? How uncivilized! Truly brutish!

[@archerhewitt385]

Just European politics for you. Sorry for the late reply

[@GSixFiveFourThreeFourDashTwo]

Supposedly the wounds created by a serrated blade were extremely hard to mend, as opposed to a regular blade.

[@sunkintree]

The point is to neutralize a target, not to cause needless suffering in doing so. A serrated blade is needless suffering because if you get to the point where you jab someone with a bayonet, the enemy is already neutralized. There's no reason to make it worse with a serrated blade. Sorry, I didn't mean to ruin your facebook tier "joke"

[@scott19087]

@@voidishprattles4319the gas the tanks and the flamethrower were things that were introduced on the battlefield near the end of the war. This saw tooth bayonet was used at the beginning when ‘honor’ was still a thing. They still had fancy coats and hats and some armies still used the old napoleonic war tactics. Safe to say they lost that feeling of honor pretty quickly.

[@austinbradley8551]

*sweats in shotgun*

[@ignite5815]

*sweats in freedom stick*

[@mitchconner403]

😂 find it funny how Germany was like “mustard gas and sawtooth bayonets are fine, but a shotgun that shoots fast… that is too far!

[@ignite5815]

@@mitchconner403 N-NEIN YOU CANT USE THAT ITS TOO GOOD But the mods never nerfed or banned it. Sadly it fell out of the meta and is used as a secondary now

[@bliecoug1029]

​@@mitchconner403they though shotgun was bad bc it went agains't the hague convention that prohibited expanding bullets it also prohibited gas but countries still used it

[@bliecoug1029]

​@@ignite5815it was never that common so it was somehow balanced by being rare

[@HellOnWheels_VA]

The M1897: “Hold my buckshot.”

[@mrwhat5094]

"one of"

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Yeah it would because the wax paper would gum up the receiver and wouldn’t fire

[@Cole_Matthews_2004]

Shotguns were so powerful in WW1 that Germany hated them because they were unfair.....so yeah.

[@Dawsonguidroz8538]

​@Cole_Matthews_2004 the entente also cried when they had flamethrower involved and not only saw back bayonet bro the entente are crying so hard also

[@WT_Bolt]

​@@Dawsonguidroz8538shotguns didnt cause unnecessary suffering and also entente won so take the L

[@CMDRFandragon]

"engineering work", like dismantling enemy defensive lines 1 soldier at a time

[@martinhulin]

The teeth prob could destroy barbed wire wich was very good in WW1

[@GALAXY09-d1i]

In the book all quite on the western front they talk about how the cadets are told to lose there serrated bayonet if they want to live and if they don’t the old soldiers would take away by force

[@Landsknecht25]

I think they told the fresh ones that every man caught with one by the enemy would have his eyes gouged out and filled with sawdust.

[@royearle1673]

*quiet *their Other than that the english is fine. Just pointing out some minor errors, 's all :)

[@jollycooperation7446]

The hypocrisy of war is so stupid. Send men out to kill each other, but they can't kill each other with certain weapons.

[@MeTAG0d]

They're setting up the meta 😂

[@marcausgossett865]

Makes sense on some parts. Example. Most countries have outlawed cluster mines and certain grenades for the same reason.

[@chernovbrichtofen4767]

It’s there for a reason. Cluster bombs or land mines can stay for decades after a war leading to civilians accidentally coming across them without realizing it and getting hurt or killed by the unexploded mines

[@superk9letsplays419]

​@@MeTAG0dbayonet too OP plz nerf

[@MeTAG0d]

@@superk9letsplays419 oke

[@joningiolason4436]

THANKS for making battlefield 1 videos in 2024

[@Flakfire]

can't stop, won't stop

[@lexmen1089]

This is all a gamr of "that is unnecessary suffering": center makes funny blade, gets called by allies, us make funny boomstick, gets called by center, center makes funny gas, gets called by allies . . .

[@elduquecaradura1468]

the cenrral powers already did poisonous gases before the US entered the war

[@quarreneverett4767]

France made funny gas

[@Huy-G-Le]

Japan be like: *I'll Take Your Entire Stock!*

[@tortron]

The British bayonets were derived from the Japanese bayonets actually

[@Huy-G-Le]

@@tortron I know

[@Indiana_Jesus]

Not to mention bayonets already had a problem with getting stuck I didn't need teeth that made it even easier to get stuck especially you saw like design that would go in easy and be hard to get out

[@starhammer5247]

That is a valid criticism, compared to the bullshit that it made wounds harder to stitch up.

[@rvanhees89]

​@@starhammer5247thats what the stab-twist-pull-repeat method is for!

[@SonsOfLorgar]

​​@@rvanhees89 no, that's what the stab-twist-shoot-pull method is for.

[@theashenstorm5509]

I mean being both stabbed and shot kinda hurts

[@Indiana_Jesus]

That's not the issue the serrations in theory would make a hole that was harder to sew up and would cause more bleeding it was it's kind of an unspoken rule among soldiers to use regular bayonets because it would put you out of the fight the same regardless but you had a higher chance of actually surviving if a medic gets to you in time while also possibly healing quicker with less scarring Also it's just the better choice anyway because it's less likely to get stuck and then get you killed

[@lucky_cult5268]

Oh god I just realized how many enemies I painfully killed, in fallout 4

[@starhammer5247]

​@@Indiana_JesusThe serrations did not make it harder to stitch up, and battlefield surgery didn't really occur, they'd just put a bandage on it and send the guy to the med tent.

[@lav7024]

​@starhammer5247 actually the serrated bayonet was a really hated tool during the war. Because usually they were charging for the stomach and it was more probable for the bayonet to get stuck in the organs while at the same time parts of the blade breaking of, which caused immeasurable pain and a slow death. Remarque even writes that when new recruits came to the front lines the veterans were quick to give them standard bayonets because often when entente troops caught Germans with serrated bayonets they would torture them (gouge their eyes out and fill them with sawdust) as a punishment for using that blade

[@manwithnewname]

​@@starhammer5247 they wouldn't then stitch it up in the med tent?

[@TheJokerX94]

Being able to bayonet charge was always satisfying when you caught an unexpecting enemy... The game was fun to

[@VLFBERHTwolf]

Dual-wielding the bayonets . . . Me: "Let there be CARNAGE!"

[@Panzersoldaten]

Russia also used weird bayonets like triangle shaped ones which were banned as they would make healing or any recovery more difficult due to the angle

[@Dominic1962]

Mosin bayonets are cruciform. A cruciform or triangular wound can be stitched up, if you get hit in the leg or such however, if it goes in deep you are going to die, so it’s no worse than anything else.

[@spencersecrest6001]

There trifix​@@Dominic1962

[@Samos900]

@@Dominic1962I heard it was a myth too

[@HonorableAssassins]

Sttoooop spreading this shit. Thats not how it works. Just because a cut is a weird shape doesnt make it impossible to stitch up and thats irrelevant for a war anyways, you dont stop bleeding with stitching, you stitch to minimize scarring and aid in recovery. If the dude was stabbed he's still out of the fight even if he lives, and you dont stab someone once, you stab someone repeatedly. The 'needle bayonet', triangular bayonets, and all other forms of non-bladed bayonet are based on medieval rondel daggers to be more rigid and get through mail, thick clothing, etc easily. The screwdriver shape of russian bayonets is to increase structure and durability.

[@spencersecrest6001]

@@HonorableAssassins why do people gotta jump to defend russia these bayonets do do damage that's hard to stitch and you say why does that In the geneva convention your not supposed to use stuff that renders aid more difficult that's why german saw blade bayonets were hated in ww1 that's why you can't use hollow points on war because it makes it harder to operate on the person it just is what it is

[@glorifiedonion6676]

It was mentioned in all quite on the western front book. In one chapter a new recruit was given one so they took it off them, the recruit was confused so they explained that the French and English would saw off their noses/face if they were caught alive.

[@3chmidt]

And they were the ones to call Germans barbaric, such a double standard

[@flamingphoenix3202]

Didn't Reznov have something similar in WAW? I swear he had a similar machete.

[@MerchantrRe4]

That was basically a machete that the Soviets used, most commonly used by Spetsnaz.

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

Oh god I can only imagine how horrible it must’ve been to be bayoneted and then pumped by the trench gun in one swoop

[@Awesomeness42102]

“Unnecessary suffering” your at war, everyone’s suffering unnecessarily

[@optikgayabaru]

I read somewhere. German accused america caused brutal death and uneeded suffering because america used shotgun or trench gun. German said multiple buckshot make very painfull wound.

[@gvo252]

But chemical weapons? Totally fine. LOL

[@davidhytha9828]

@@gvo252 Since both sides used them, yes.

[@user-kd3cz4zo9k]

@@davidhytha9828…remind me why both sides started using them?

[@davidhytha9828]

@@user-kd3cz4zo9k You want me to write down who used gas first don't you. Why don't you do it.

[@user-kd3cz4zo9k]

@@davidhytha9828 pretty sure that answers who started it

[@deebo5474]

Melee only in BF1 is actually viable sometimes, last time i played i got a 5kd with the sabre on that snow bunker map

[@SuryaGupta-te7fq]

there is no snow map with a bunker. Only thing I can think of is Tsaritsyn, has a building in the middle

[@justalurker3489]

The real reason this reputation exists is because the sawbacks were thought to be used by saboteurs. German saboteurs would use them to saw off the wooden posts that held up the barbed wire. The other side wouldn't use such bayonets because the the Germans used a corkscrew to twist in their wire posts, so instead they just unscrewed them

[@Combothief]

Americans: "pumps war crime stick"

[@Kivxi]

Germany: Releases gas

[@byrne8509]

​@@Kivxi France was the first to develop and use gas, and was then adopted by everyone else with no issues. Then Germany modified it to make it more lethal, which was then adopted by everyone else with no issues. Germany was not the first.

[@Kivxi]

@byrne8509 Exactly, they made it more lethal. I also never said Germany made gas first.

[@Combothief]

@@byrne8509 wait before I start looking stupid, Americans were the ones that used the slam fire trench sweeper that was a shot gun, right?

[@octane781]

Gas attacks: ✓ Zeppelin raids: ✓ Submachine guns: ✓ Shotguns and oversized bread knives: "We aim for you first."

[@theprancingprussian]

Actual most despised weapon between morters, howitzers and gas Morters sometimes waiting for the enemies to use theurs first due to how nasty they could be

[@DudeNamedDude1776]

Battlefield 1 has been one that I look back on the fondest. It was so sick

[@RockinEnabled]

was? it still IS!

[@DudeNamedDude1776]

@@RockinEnabled Last I played on PC it was pretty dead and most games had hackers :( same with BF5, even though that one I dislike the most for some reason

[@RockinEnabled]

@@DudeNamedDude1776 perhaps, we live in different regions. In Europe, the servers are still pretty alive, there is a variety of servers to choose from. Hackers are an occasional sight but not too often.

[@DudeNamedDude1776]

@@RockinEnabled Oh yeah I am in California in the US and servers here are pretty dead :(

[@bmw_fantopdrives5501]

Still got mine from my Grandad

[@AverageJoe_15]

My grandpa (old war vet) keeps a bayonet on top of his gun cabinet, where he keeps some older looking guns. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen a bayonet IRL. Fun fact about my grandpa he loves playing the OG call of duty/metal of honor games, he’s the one that introduced me to first person shooters haha, super cool guy he is

[@TheBlasphemite]

i seriously don't get why people in war are concerned about making it "humane". it's war, it's never meant to be humane to begin with.

[@baabaabaa-yp2jh]

Its in a book called The Broken Years. A collection of soldiers diaries. Australians shot a cpl of Germans carrying them and sent another back to his lines to pass it on... evidently it worked. Barbaric things, it'd pull your guts out when withdrawn. The French took the same measures if you were caught brandishing one. Edit: Same went for knobberies as well.. A stick with a metal ball and spike, might not kill, but itd go through a helmet and leave the bloke a vegetable.

[@TrueWraith]

I still remember the days when you could turn on a dime while doing a bayonet charge before they nerf'd it early on after release.

[@ChivRex]

I remember that scene with the serated knife in the 1970s all quiet on the western front

[@shinobiskalper9120]

BF1 was an awesome game. I wish it had lasted longer. I can barely get a good match to play. Wait time is long, and most servers are so laggy.

[@Darqshadow]

"If you get caught with this, theyllpluck your eyes out! But this, this works better. You can knock a man's head clean off if hit under the chin" All Quiet on The Western Front, heavily paraphrasing due to how long ago this was but still, a good quote

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

I got the full one: "During the day we loaf about and make war on the rats. Ammunition and hand-grenades become more plentiful. We overhaul the bayonets--that is to say, the ones that have a saw on the blunt edge. If the fellows over there catch a man with one of those he's killed at sight. In the next sector some of our men were found whose noses were cut off and their eyes poked out with their own saw-bayonets. Their mouths and noses were stuffed with sawdust so that they suffocated. Some of the recruits have bayonets of this sort; we take them away and give them the ordinary kind. But the bayonet has practically lost its importance. It is usually the fashion now to charge with bombs and spades only. The sharpened spade is a more handy and many-sided weapon; not only can it be used for jabbing a man under the chin, but it is much better for striking with because of its greater weight; and if one hits between the neck and shoulder it easily cleaves as far down as the chest. The bayonet frequently jams on the thrust and then a man has to kick hard on the other fellow's belly to pull it out again; and in the interval he may easily get one himself. And what's more, the blade often gets broken off."

[@SonsOfLorgar]

The thing with sawback bayonets though, is that they are much more likely to get stuck on an opponent's bone or cartilage than a clean double or single edged blade, and a triangular or round spike bayonet is the least likely to get stuck at all. And if your bayonet gets stuck without a round in the chamber or worst case with a completely empty firearm, then getting it stuck is very likely to get you killed by the next enemy to show up.

[@alexread4803]

Saw back blades, trench shotguns, flamethrowers and nest machine gunners going insane after killing a horde of men, ahh the good ol days

[@beetri28]

If you take off the scope to the sniper class it makes me feel immersed

[@shanelacross6744]

One of those reasons was if someone was hit in the stomach when you pull the bayonet out there’s a chance you’d be pulling out organs and intestines from the serated edge (supposedly)

[@yungozXXX]

“Unnecessary suffering“ Uh sir this is war

[@HomersIlliad]

Meanwhile, the Shotgun: lol, cry harder

[@GroutEnjoyer]

“Causing unnecessary suffering” you know it was bad when people complained about it in ww1

[@ChaosInsurgencyC653]

Also germany: NOOO HOW CAN YOU USE THE TRENCH GUN?!! ITS SO INHUMANE!!!1!1!1

[@HomingRocket1]

Germany: Shotguns are cruel and barbaric weapons! Also Germany: *used serrated bayonets*

[@prussianboi6381]

...did you watch the video?

[@Kevin_drinks_Lead]

It's not really affecting anything tho. It's like the least brutal thing about ww1 ever

[@Lord-Wheatabix]

To be fair, if command and officers say it didn't happen, and everyone underneath tells you it did. It most definitely happened. General Public: "Hey, wasn't that town full of civilians?" Military Command: "No, it was a deserted town repurposed as an enemy supply depot." Military Grunts & NCOs: "Oh, that place, yeah the enemy took shots at us and hit Doc, so we leveled it." General Public: "So the town didn't have any non-combatants or civilians or anything of the such?" Military Grunts & NCOs: "We took out an enemy threat that was using the town as refuge and we weren't willing to lose our guys dragging out a fight." In all seriousness, if troops says it happened this way, it probably happened the way they're telling it, since military Command structures don't want to admit that, yeah our guys killed prisoners, or wiped out a town full of civies etc.

[@cyril6277]

I love the part where they show the bayonet

[@niceguy8937]

Wow everyone actually agreed on this one even the soldiers themselves losing their bayonets.

[@n8zog584]

What surprised me was that German Soldiers would even file the sawteeth off of the Bayonet. Like the soldiers themselves thought the sawteeth were a bit too overkill.

[@Dominic1962]

@@n8zog584The sawback was issued to higher ranks as well as engineers, so they were seen as distinguished. German dress bayonets from that time and earlier are often sawbacks. The milling off of the teeth was done at the factory, typically.

[@killthemwithfirelol]

​@@n8zog584it's not overkill. If anything it's under kill; sawteeth make it harder to pull the blade out of things.

[@starhammer5247]

This is WWI, no serious warcrimes yet.

[@cringlator]

Germans: “yes well corncob pump of a trench gun could also count as serrated.”

[@anonymuscaesar8511]

Best Battlefield game! Not enough WWI games but this is the pinnacle right here!

[@copeland7225]

From what I remember, the average German soldier hated the thing because it would get stuck so often. They would either toss it and just use a shovel or file the teeth off themselves. The 1897 was probably hated more.

[@rejectre-run4213]

Triangular fighting knife has entered the chat

[@ProwerTheFox7]

And here I was thinking “oh look _another_ short about the trench gun”

[@robboss1839]

I played a lot of BF3 and BF1. Those were some fun games

[@reddeaddude2187]

"Unnecessary suffering?" It's a war, it's all unnecessary.

[@kishinnoragami1029]

We need a revival for BF1!

[@Rum-grandpa]

Meanwhile flamethrower: I'm a completely humane weapon

[@ps4nowwoot972]

They were banned by the Germans, because they got told that French and British soldiers would torture then kill any troop caught with one, leading to its eventual recall in 1917

[@starhammer5247]

Definitely bullshit they were spreading.

[@rouxgreasus]

Unnecessary suffering? Sounds familiar

[@jovasmav]

Battlefield 1 hits different after watching "All quiet on the western front"

[@vladislavivanov2334]

I remember than in "All quite on Western Front" it was mentioned how veterans took away serrated blades from rookies, because if A German was captured with such a Blade, French would cut their eye out.

[@OutlierOnYT]

Yes, Erich Maria Remarque, a German veteran of WWI, even included this in his book “All Quiet on the Western Front.” Very interesting

[@BlerdDaddy85]

Germans back then hated the trench broom. War is hell. I'm sure warfighters today have weaponry that is hated universally by competing factions.

[@TJV83]

Out of all of the games that get remastered I wish Battlefield 1 would get a remaster or a PS5 and Series X update

[@meganoob12]

Meanwhile Jim and Emanuel craft their own makeshift club

[@tobiems]

I love how wars still have standards like: „nah dude u cant kill with a knife but u can shoot your enemy with a full clip. Yeah thats humane“….

[@meganoob12]

well we tried to create laws for wars because we have seen to what madness people can decend and cause suffering just to get the slightest chance of an advantage.

[@tobiems]

@@meganoob12 but does it make a difference? U still kill a huge amount of people….and they still suffer for some ahhhole with lot of money who is bored

[@tgillies101]

BF1 .... absolutely broke the mould on that game.

[@RaiderCat12]

Well, now I want one

[@Zilliguy]

In all quiet Remarque describes the fate of those caught with these bayonets so I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened…

[@vincentzeitz972]

There is a scene in the book "all quiet on the western front" where the veteran soldiers, take these bayonets from the new recruits and literally ram them in the dirt and give them ones without the serrated edge

[@benjaminbergmann8396]

That bayonet charge at the beginning was horrifying

[@oliversherman2414]

BF1 is one of the best games ever

[@Thebronzeboot]

Meanwhile the flame thrower is causing people to die the most painful death

[@TrayCaddyyy]

Melee is so satisfying in BF1

[@duderitoz6953]

*sweats in mustard*

[@ForgottenHonor0]

Germany: "Ve have un TERRIFYING sawtooth bayonet!" America: "Hurr, hurr. Trench gun go boom."

[@b4dom3n57]

To the ones who don't know,soldiers who had the sawblade if they got caught using it,the enemy would took their nose and peeled their eyes off,we could see the same situation in the book "All quiet on the Western front",the writter of the book is actually a ww1 veteran,there is a scene when the main character advised a rookie to throw the sawblades away,just to make sure the rookie won't end in that unfortunate fate

[@venomlink2033]

They had machine guns, gas, and artillery, but heaven forbid they use pointy sticks with serrated edges on them. Someone might get hurt!

[@Monk1400]

Everybody's badass til you both run out of ammo and one of you has a pointy knife on a stick

[@jaymay7957]

“Unnecessary suffering” is a weird thing to say in a war. lol if it’s a battle for survival of both nations that’s the last fucking thing I’m worried about

[@Shadowkey392]

Huh. I have one of those at home. It’s pretty cool. Easy to see how it could be used for engineering.

[@CYBRO-ub2wi]

one of the best games i ever played

[@squilliamfancyson1575]

*US enters with trench shotguns* *Germany: "Heyyyyyyy"*

[@mwnciboo]

*Laughs in Trench Shotgun*

[@Ostyak_01]

The sawtooth knife is not really like the sawback bayonets, it’s more like a machete with saw teeth, which is also why it’s larger and is curved. Sawback bayonets were shaped like regular bayonets but with teeth on the spine of the blade and they were designed so that the victim’s innards would be ripped out of the body along with the bayonet, which is why it was seen as especially inhumane. German soldiers being executed for having one likely did happen even if it can’t be confirmed, unless it was only a rumor that was spread intentionally to deter the use of sawback bayonets.

[@edmundliankalang5925]

The last scream is the flapjack scream

[@andrejansen3281]

The melee in BF1 was the best!

[@SniperOnSunday]

"Shotguns cause unnecessary suffering!" Also Germany:

[@ospreyphil8995]

Never knew about the fixed bayonets being different like that

[@DaDabewy]

Trench broom sitting in a dark corner smoking a cigarette

[@Yanagi-wn9md]

"Did you kno-" Most probably no, now continue.

[@herrflammen6487]

“Ok, if you can have your shotguns, I know I can damn well have my serrated knife*

[@crazzymonkeygaming6838]

I miss this game

[@LordDeShadow]

The Germans knew they'd better not get caught by Canadians with that bayonet.

[@Arkasha-Z]

"If the enemy caught you with this they'd pluck your eyes out and fill em full a' straw! And a bayonet gets stuck in the ribs anyway."-Kat, All Quiet On The Western Front(1979 Version)

[@mikehawk486]

id say that ramming half your rifle through someone as seen in bf1 causes unnecessary suffering.