This Week on Shark Tank, Mark Cuban & Andrew Yang Talk UBI | Yang Speaks

Powerhouse entrepreneur Mark Cuban debates Universal Basic Income with Andrew; they also talk sports, building companies, and why Mark didn't run for president.
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[@icecube721]

This should be our Presidential Debate.

[@the77th]

FACTTTTSSSSSS

[@commonsense99]

I would vote for either/both of them for VP President and President.

[@Boswd]

or our Presidential ticket.

[@prestonhall5171]

@Win From Within That's the problem, it shouldn't be.

[@grandmaster-grouch]

i spent my dream bike money and donated it to yangs campaign. what are you willing to do for the future?

[@thinkbeyond3457]

I hope all these podcast are with video going forward if possible.

[@Berto2K]

@independentCog maybe he likes holding a mic? haha. as awkward as it looks to us. Her certainly has the knowledge/ability to get a new one if he wanted.

[@NewToneProducer]

And can we all pitch in to get Andrew a nicer camera/camera tripod/mic/mic holder?

[@FeatherX]

@independentCog I think he prefers the mic.

[@dlvl86]

Yeah, I was gonna ask the same. So much more fun to watch

[@gordthor5351]

Andrew Yang 4 Prez! Andrew is so deeply focused on solving the problems, he doesn't have the time to focus on lesser issues. I totally understand what you are getting at, but it's a personality type thing. I'm the same personality type as Yang and I am like "WTF Andrew, your camera is on mirror again, or your audio sucks?". However, I understand why he misses things like this. INTJ types like Elon Musk and Yang are laser focused on solving the problems and their strong intuition (big picture) cognitive function allows them to see the big picture, but their sensing (details) function is rather weak. People strong in details will naturally be weak in seeing the big picture (intuition), because both are perception cognitive functions and only one will be dominant (MUCH stronger) in all personality types. The same goes for the only two ways we can judge reality (thinking and feeling). Yang is an intuitive thinker, but he has obviously worked hard on shoring up his inherent weaknesses (emotional and social intelligence). Like Elon, Andrew is great at finding the most competent people for the job, so when he is President, no one will have to worry about him missing any small details, because he will have someone much more competent to take care of that area. Intuitive thinkers are best suited to solve the most complex problems, because they see and understand things so deeply, but you can't expect them to be perfect at everything. All personality types have their inherent strengths and weaknesses and Yang will never be great at making the best video/audio production. It's just not where his focus lies. He is more focused on the quality of content.

[@zacboyles1396]

A lot of entrepreneurs start their businesses while receiving a UBI from their parents. We're always halting progress for our country with fears of people being lazy.

[@MelvoraFilms]

Amen, I've been lucky with keeping my job so far and have been investing towards building a business while living at home and paying down student loans. Privileged to be in this position no doubt, but I'm certainly not on my ass playing video games or buying beer with disposable income.

[@Redfiregtag]

Our very own president wouldn't be where he is if he didn't receive UBI from his parents.

[@timgwallis]

I can’t understand why more people aren’t watching this!!

[@liamhumphreys9011]

Tim Wallis it’s up to us to spread it! Start sharing the more interesting clips n shit- that’s the reason I’ve done this reply to increase the algorithm😂

[@poker4400]

Because most Americans are uneducated and only care about Facebook and Twitter likes. This is why we have Trump as President.

[@jonarudy]

I usually listen to this podcast on yangspeaks website.

[@masterofda45]

Because yang sucks lol

[@yogameditationinsight]

Because it's speculative and doesn't include the voices of people faced with the life dilemma they discuss?

[@crystalparker100]

We need younger leaders who understand the digital age. Thank you, Andrew Yang and Mark Cuban.

[@mauritiusdunfagel9473]

crystalparker100 you mean like Gaetz, or Ben Shapiro, or Meghan McCain.

[@crystalparker100]

@@mauritiusdunfagel9473 No, I don't mean them. Conservatives don't understand how the world has changed. They still think it's 1970.

[@smallsmall5062]

People chose Biden or Sanders over Yang! I'm proud to say I voted for Yang during the primary election💪🏾

[@captainshadow3374]

MAJOR RESPECT

[@grandmaster-grouch]

you are proud you voted for yang? how many votes did you bring with you and how much money did you commit? yo i donated over 6k and over 100 hrs on the streets of California. im not even proud of doing any of that because yang is no where near where we need him to be. dont be proud you did something. you should feel a little shame for not doing enough.. thats how i feel im ashamed he didnt get nominated for our party.. this shame powers my vigilance under yangs banner. i challenge your conviction as a american and a person who wants a better future.

[@albinothug]

Amen brother

[@josephramirez3046]

@@grandmaster-grouch lol no need to shoot down the guy calm down.

[@shanewex]

@@grandmaster-grouch I'm pretty sure that Yang himself would want you to be proud of what you did, as well as anybody who voted for him. Shaming people for not doing enough is exactly the underlying problem that lies behind all the unemployment and minimum wage issues. The heart of the ideas that Yang supports have to do with celebrating and insuring economic and political participation. Not everybody has the time or money to donate to the campaign, but everyone can vote and try to make their voice heard. Of course we have a long way to go to get the ideals of Humanity First to the forefront of American politics, but we should not be ashamed because it has come so far in such a short time. Don't push yourself too far by feeling shame for not doing enough, instead remember how much we have already accomplished in getting UBI into the conversation, and double down on the pride and conviction on these issues. This nomination cycle was always going to be a challenge, and of course I'm disappointed that he was not given a proper chance to break through. But this is a marathon, we made significant progress and we aren't going to slow down either. This movement is not done.

[@jesussalinas3947]

These two honestly make me so hopeful for the future. I truly believe Yang was and still is the best candidate. Bret Weinstein spoke on Joe Rogan’s podcast about a new way to run the presidency saying he feels that Yang would be the best democratic candidate as well as having a republican candidate be in office with him. It really made so much sense in a world where very little things make sense anymore.

[@whitesalmon0925]

Andrew you are not only American Patriot, but also human hope.

[@grandmaster-grouch]

Hope is something that people who know they will do little to change things cling on to. human hope.. is useless without human compassion and sacrifice. hope for the best but prepare for the worst. while educating self and eachother. in my eyes hope has no room for people fighting for change.

[@LIFEOFVEGANKINGZZ]

Andrew Yang is a genius, he should be President.

[@神烦狗]

Just like you. Lmao.

[@BumooJKim]

100% Agree on The Presidency.

[@pixelfairy]

he could be in 2024

[@jimmyjameslee7189]

too bad all the Bernie supporters were idiots and didn't realize that yang would have pulled working class people not just college students now they get trump or biden

[@Upstatebackwoods]

jimmyjames lee Democrat’s always do that. Bernie could of won in 2016 and 2020 but they shot themselves in the foot with pushing Hillary and now joe.

[@beaulimbu]

I don’t agree on everything that Yang says. But I still think he is one of the most capable mind in today’s world.

[@scottdavidson7543]

Who will you agree everything with? Bottom line A.Y. would lead this country in a better direction for humanity

[@jpkaneshida1977]

Thanks Beau - it's a point that needs to be made!

[@spencerstephens7594]

Exactly! I find his ability to entertain many ideas and use good logic, changing his mind when sensible, more important than any individual policy. Should you vote for policies that probably won't get put in place anyway or should vote for character, the force behind coming to good decisions??

[@tpf4292]

"you're the only technology literate candidate", so true

[@johnnyboy3570]

Jim Y no he is most the illiterate technology candidate, 90% of Americans were farmers in 1800s until technology improved our standard of living so now only 1% need to farm and others could start doing other things to increase the standard of living like being doctors. Based on your/yang logic we would have had a 89% unemployment rate.

[@grandmaster-grouch]

you just found this out? where you been? we needed your voice last year dude.. lol yanggang baby

[@DejectedCat]

@@johnnyboy3570 If you're seriously equating AI driven automation with tractors and harvesters in terms of their cross-industry disruption potential, I think you're the tech illiterate one...

[@LettingMySoulOut]

These video podcasts are always a blast. Can't understand why there's so little views

[@j0404t]

They're going up. This one was literally posted hours ago lol

[@RealmDesigner]

@@j0404t They are going up. Unfortunately far too many people are only interested in cats playing pianos and silly challenges for money.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

will bump him up in time shit 20 years from now will be thanking the stars we got a guy like yang repping shit that actually helps us

[@youtubeandrewyang8454]

Most are listening to the audio versions.

[@FeatherX]

People still don't know about the channel. It's still fairly new.

[@nave2267]

The studies show the only people that are less “productive” with UBI are college students which is a good thing!

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

YESSSSSS

[@brunorodriguezdiaz4191]

A trial in Canada showed less than 1% of people stopped working, and work lowered only about 10%, on average. This was mostly because some parents stopped working, or turned to a part time job, only to take care of their children. And this is a good thing, because teachers can only control 30% of a child's education. The other 70% are at home factors, like how many parents are home, stress levels, and words read to them. With a UBI, people will have time to spend with kids, and the next generation will be smarter and readier.

[@Jack-mw9lw]

Young Blood Politics do you know the study for the teacher only controlling 30 percent of outcome. I always hear yang and people bring it up but can never find it.

[@laheil3373]

I wish Andrew would’ve brought that up in this conversation... great interview though, as always!

[@griggyz]

Jack I believe they get that number from dividing the hours a kid spends at school (7-8) by 24, giving about 30%

[@ThrottleKitty]

Andrew Yang will be president one day. I am proud I've known about him before all this.

[@jcc1351]

I have co-workers like Cuban. The "big picture" guy who spends all day talking on the hallways. I love Yang cuz he is both the "big picture" guy and the "worker bee" guy. Yang's only weakness is he has reservation on "tooting his own horn" (very quick to say "that's your idea", very hesitant to say "that's my idea").

[@arthursato8343]

Great observation

[@yormarmar3088]

As long as the shit can be done, he doesn’t hesitate to credit his opponent. What a quality of a leader.

[@arthursato8343]

Danny Park he is our hope for true change in government and policy, no hyperbole. Another four years to get him there

[@joeyphoshowey]

Leaders like to give credit to others because they are confident in themselves.

[@yormarmar3088]

Arthur Sato hope of the world is an understatement. We need a third party with Mark

[@Mike-ox7ox]

Agree. Video podcast is sooooooo much better.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

TOTES

[@Eliht01]

Yangspeaks needs more subscribers! YangGang unite!

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

YANG GANG BABY

[@rick15666]

I’m here!!

[@khalmasonart]

But instead we give politicians 30 seconds to summarize their policy stands, and pit candidates against one another.

[@kev4567]

#YangGang

[@xKlumZeex]

People should also know that UBI would help with mental health in general. It sure would be a huge reliever. Less stress = Happy citizens = Happy country lol.

[@anonymoususer4376]

Wouldn't you rather just see a smaller tax bill? Why give it to the government so they can write you a check? Just don't take it out of my check in the first place.

[@sebb1510]

@@anonymoususer4376 what about people who don't have an income to begin with? Or people who make 2k a month or less? Would taking less taxes really help them as much as giving them 1k a month? I see your point and it would help people with high salaries but the majority of Americans would not be affected much by taking less taxes.

[@gustavohopkins242]

@@anonymoususer4376 not if my tax bill is honest with were the money goes to and if my tax bill goes to programs I can see in my community. People have this idea that lower spending=lower costs. But that simply isnt true. You are just choosing to ignore some costs and put them off. For example as budget fix, Congress cut funding for our PREDICT program, which provides resources for scientists to identify and respond to potential pandemic virus strains. It directly supported the wuhan research center. However it ran out of money last September and countries had to lay off scientists and stop field work, which is finding those viruses in animal populations. That "saved" 200 million dollars. Republicans who claim to be fiscal conservatives cut funding to programs like these and claim they were useless. Well so far we have spent 3 trillion fighting covid and we still have at least a year of this to go. I wonder if the program could had identified this sooner and helped mitigate some of the costs. Point is paying less is not always saving more money

[@endosmokingtv3391]

@@anonymoususer4376 but i bet you won't question the money going to military or rich people. Smh

[@anonymoususer4376]

@@endosmokingtv3391 Moderate amount to military so our country is safe from foreign aggression. Federal roads, buildings, etc. I'm not rich but funny you think rich people get money from the federal government. They fund the MAJORITY of the federal budget. Top 10% pay 70% of all taxes. SMH

[@ereek5]

shout out to all of the people here listening to the real meaningful discussions that can navigate our country effectively.

[@homerenjan]

This is an underrated episode. Cuban needs to connect with Yang and turn this country around.

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

Team Yang ! Get The Rock as a public speaker on his office team and we got the President we need. #YangGang

[@AK-yp2jo]

Make sure you question him on his archaic stance on UBI. Love you, Yang!! Cheers!

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

stance def archaic the fact that people want to work is beyond me let people paint fuck and love forget the stock market and invest in humans living there lives

[@merrittpalmer4349]

Yang/Cuban 2024 baby!

[@GadyRealEstate]

Seriously... The country needs Andrew Yang! I wish I could have voted for him for President.

[@netgiant2592]

Way too many loopholes in Cuban’s proposals. Yang is too nice of a guy to point them out.

[@fkface8011]

*Lol! insert Scott Santens*

[@TheRoyalFino]

But Cuban isn't a policy maker by trade. And I think Cuban is right that the stimulus that can be only spent on small business idea that Yang has is flawed. I think both of them have a lot to offer idea wise and also have ideas that need a little bit more workshopping to become realistic proposals. The $600 extra per week for the recently unemployed thing that passed easily thru congress is kinda a trainwreck of an idea, yet it's law despite not helping enough people and creating a short-term disincentive to work.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

honestly i wish he was 25 and young and reckless we could get so much more done then

[@dnb9460]

there is plenty of room for think tanks to fill in the details...but its the right direction the conversation needs to go in..

[@trynachill]

What are they? I'm not smart enough to figure out myself but do want to know haha

[@codeChris]

UBI wouldn't subsidize a McDonald's pay. Because the employee has the power to not work for them for such a low wage. If anything, the employee may choose to work for a small business or start their own for lower wage equal to or even lower than that of Mcdonald's else where simply because they WANT to be at said company. The people can consider the pay difference because they have the 2nd income coming in from UBI. The employee will still be productive just not easily exploited. The free market will see that if people don't WANT to work for you for such a low wage, the employer will have to offer a higher wage since demand for that position is so low.

[@dht580]

I don't necessarily disagree with you - but on the point of choice: People have the power to choose where they work already. What both Yang and Cuban are offering is an approach to raising the floor. Where Yang believes in government-funded UBI, Cuban believes in the government-mandated raising of the minimum wage; both are valid points. I think Mark's point with "subsidizing" pay is with UBI being government-funded, which means tax-payer funded, which means that McDonald's could continue to pay what it pays because the government is taking care of the rest. I would argue that it's difficult if not impossible to create meaningful competition in the entry-level jobs market; no matter what, it's a position that pays what it pays because it doesn't require skill/education/experience. I agree with you that UBI would create more potential for opportunity by mitigating some individual risk, but I disagree with your point that it will foster choice in the job market. Choice and competition come from small/growing businesses > larger businesses have access to larger pools of capital which gives them a competitive advantage when it comes to picking from the talent pool > Mark's approach is aimed at forcing the big players to play the game fairly. Ultimately, it boils down to how it's funded. UBI is disastrous if it's simply working-class Americans paying into it, while large corporations and the hyper-wealthy still enjoy excessive tax breaks. I agree with Mark on raising the minimum wage, but I don't think that's enough. The wealth gap is far too large; income inequality is out of control. I would dare say that a combination of UBI based on tax-brackets, coupled with an [overdue] increase in the minimum wage, is a step in the right direction.

[@yuri567]

Yang and Cuban for 2024

[@anthonyhoang5902]

A Yang/Cuban ticket in 2024 would be impossible to beat.

[@xCOYNE805x]

Cuban has such political talent. Imagine him on the debate stage discussing the economy with Trump or Biden. He would sound like the competent adult with solutions among children.

[@khalmasonart]

To be honest, any long-time corporate executive leader or entrepreneur is going to do better than any politicians that we have now. There is a reason why leaders in the private sector gets paid way more than members of congress

[@coolbluereview]

Knox Mas I would disagree with that. I don’t think being a successful corporate leader translates into being a good president. Btw Congress sets their own paycheck and in the private sector people decide how much they want to get paid.

[@coolbluereview]

I believe Cuban would make excellent decisions for the economy, however that is only one sector that the presidency must tend too. I would like to hear his other opinions on different matters such as international affairs or governmental reform. So far I enjoy what I see.

[@richardlee9207]

@@coolbluereview I don't think so, his ideas are old corporatism , socialism for the rich. He doesn't have a single transformational idea, he doesn't understand UBI, period. CBI (care taker basic income) is basically expanding welfare program, old idea, very limited in scope and impact. Cuban card is money transfer to business no freedom element, temporary literally weekly relief, still doesn't address long term problems. Cuban see Americans literal as merely mechanism for corporations to making money from. Government subsidized stocks is a disaster in waiting just like housing and education, it distort the market and artificially inflating the price creating bubble in the long run. 👎

[@Heeroyui752]

@@richardlee9207 The private sector is perfectly able to create bubbles for the stock market all by themselves as we saw in 2008. Your point is well taken there, however I'd argue that its impossible to "distort" something as arbitrary and volatile as the stock market. Now I'm still a proponent of UBI, however the counter arguments Cuban presented are sound. The money you'd get from UBI isn't enough to live comfortably, you'd still need to work (an argument that Yang failed to bring up) and business already would know that and would pay you even less because they knew you were getting UBI. Cuban said he's in favor of a federal $15 minimum wage. That is NOT old corporatism. Old corporatism is, lemme pay my workers pennies and welfare will make up the rest, oh and when I overspend, the government will just bail me out to. Cuban isn't in favor of that approach at all. And the whole point of the "Cuban card" as Yang put it is to boost stimulus. The LAST thing you want when you're trying stimulate the economy by getting people to spend is quantitative easing. Just flooding an already struggling economy with money is just going to see most of that money sitting in saving accounts, which you don't want. The Cuban card would force people to spend money on the local level, which stimulates the local economies who are being crushed by interstate/multnationals like Amazon/Wal-Mart/Target/etc. If people want the freedom to buy what they want, there's nothing stopping them from spending their own money on those desires.

[@tameemiqbal5567]

As I wait for this podcast to premiere, I predict that Mark will be donating money to Humanity Forward.

[@milespatton7198]

Yeah I think we all would have loved to see that. He's not actually interested in helping people. It's just an act. But I say that directed a lot less to the idea of donating & much more directed at his self-serving proposals.

[@milespatton7198]

@CallaLily How could you??? Humanity First all the way! I'm sad to say Mark, he doesn't qualify. It's never to late for a person to change but if the current state of the world doesn't do it, I just don't have much hope for him.

[@roastpork5437]

@@milespatton7198 He's a cutthroat business man. But the podcast here is not about whether Mark Cuban is really for UBI or not, but to grab Mark Cuban's audience who will watch this and get YANGED.

[@milespatton7198]

@@roastpork5437 Yeah I'm glad Mark came on the show for certain. But I wont be praising his ideas. He's pretending he wants to help people. There's enough of that going around in the political world as it is.

[@wadetalks8171]

Great video! We need the Yang Speaks podcast to explode to help get Yang more known for 2024. More video format podcasts will definitely help.

[@ccsdk]

Mark is missing the point where the poor, handicapped, students, and vast array of people may not be able to work. UBI is how they will survive.

[@kellypitts8481]

Any handicapped person could work for a call center from home. Everybody else is just lazy

[@sleeper9728]

AGREED

[@steviereyas2488]

@@kellypitts8481 ah yes! You mean the call center jobs that will be automated away very soon. Smart!

[@aljan5047]

I think it was not enough time for Yang to mention and discuss it. I agree in your comment and also the elderly that retired and heading back in the work force much need the UBI.

[@jakeleisure8326]

@@kellypitts8481 "Now sit ur disabled ass at home and call ppl for 12 hrs at $7.25 an hr. Just buy discounted chicken to save $$ for health care and dont forget to save a few bucks for retirement & you'll be good" Great idea. Are you a philosopher by trade?

[@technicolortony3091]

Give Ubi to broke people they’ll recirculate it. Give Ubi to Rich people, they’ll invest it. It’s a win win!!

[@henrygustav7948]

lol recirculate to the top then the rich will have even more to invest. UBI increases wealth inequality, not decrease it.

[@Voyagerthe2nd]

@@henrygustav7948 Wealth inequality itself isn't necessarily a problem but I would argue that if wealth inequality goes to a point when low income people do not have economic opportunity, then social disruption escalates

[@henrygustav7948]

@@Voyagerthe2nd Wealth inequality is a result of employers being able to have leverage over workers thru worker insecurity aka unemployment and healthcare tied to jobs. These are the modern day whips used to keep the working class in line. Something that can not be fixed with a UBI, not even close.

[@morganrudman9463]

Decent interview. Was disappointed by the UBI segment though. I know Andrew is like this sweet baby angel that wants to agree with everyone and their mom, but in this case that approach resulted in him failing to point out major flaws in Mark’s anti-UBI stance. There was hardly any pushback from Andrew and I feel like Cuban walked away from this conversation even more confident that his anti-UBI stance is the correct one.

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

RIGHT!!! WTF COME ON ANDREW 🙄🤦

[@karenmiller7705]

Totally agree, I was disappointed.

[@aeaf123]

Didnt see any problem. Got to remember that this is a cordial and friendly conversation. It would be more constructive for them to discuss off the record I think... because the arguments can extend well beyond with the nuance

[@rick15666]

dukky fuzz exaaactly. Trust me, Yang saw the holes before the words even came out of Mark’s mouth. As someone else said here, Yang’s here to win allies not arguments.

[@buffalomafia7162]

You're not gonna change someone's mind by attacking them.

[@MrBobbyfresh]

Thank you for having this conversation.

[@boevec1]

I LOOOOOVE these two!!!! Yang/Cuban baby!

[@backgroundcharacterj5071]

Yang could literally have the most perfect administration in a few years

[@LY-cx9pn]

Who is Mark Cuban afraid won’t go back to work if they have a UBI? We aren’t all him at 21... UBI isn’t a wage replacement. It’s a floor. 12,000 a year is still under the poverty line. Young people pursue job experience in part to get better jobs in future and in part to have have a more comfortable life. If people work fewer hours, that might not be a bad thing for mental heath or other pursuits such as getting a college degree. I wish Yang would have asked his position on 4-day work weeks. That will tell us if Cuban wants people to be wage slaves or if he recognizes it’s not about how many hours you work so much as actual productivity.

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

I had an Obama Stimulus job; worked on my own terms, was very creative and provided community service. The first TRUST must be in us who have so many talents.

[@shortbus3133]

I believe Mark was saying people on unemployment right now are doing better than when they were last working (with the $600 stim), that those people don't necessarily want to return to work right now.

[@eack4252]

@@shortbus3133 thats a product of wages being stagnant for so long. where Mark was completely wrong was that ubi increases job growth. I understand he was worried about disincentivizing people to work, but that assumes people can live on 1k a month. With lending rates so low and so many out of work, if a person looking to start a business knew that right now people need jobs and they have a guaranteed 1k a month, the prospective owner could afford to start a business. people who are unemployed would be able to take (what would be considered a paycut prior to the pandemic) a lower wage during the training process

[@Jmp153]

I lived on 1000 a month a few years back and it’s not enough. I ended up getting behind on so many things. But a thousand plus even a minimum wage job that’s doable.

[@karenmiller7705]

I disagree fundamentally with Cuban's issues against UBI, however I think the question that needed to be addressed by Yang and was not was about UBI essentially subsidizing the wages employers would be paying. I.e. was it going to be a disincentive to overall wage increases especially for working class jobs, and I think that is a valid concern that Yang needs an answer for.

[@williamcook6127]

I respectfully suggest that it will be good for everyone if we listen more closely to Andrew Yang.

[@julianakennedycpa9570]

Great conversation you two. I love it. Being a CPA it all made sense 😁

[@UXtatic]

Get some lights Yang!!!

[@westbunting4358]

For some reason, no one mentions that it is a business responsibility to provide an incentive for someone to come work for them. If the argument is, "You need to feed yourself." What kind of choice and respect is that of the worker? Why not offer more money to the person instead of shaming them for not doing what you want.

[@SunscreenAndVitamins]

Seems like people see it as a Parent/Child relationship. "Do what you're supposed to do!," the worker is chided, as though they were a wayward child. The business owner does what is best for them, while the worker is expected to do "what they should do," which apparently means sacrificing for their employer's sake.

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

exactly that's on the employer if they want us to do some job then pay enough

[@Hibernia2324]

So many people getting the extra $600 don't have a job to go back to. Tired of hearing that workers are making too much $$ on UI and don't want to go back.

[@UndefeatableKing]

@@Nick_Allen__ great quote

[@westbunting4358]

@Unprepared ToDie Just because someone is working doesn't mean they are making enough. Enough to live, to own, to retire. We live in the richest nation in the world and we choose to tell the citizens they need to survive. We tell ourselves that our employer not paying us well is our fault. There is no proof that any of this will lead to inflation, but if it does then maybe it should. There is an imbalance at the moment and we need to level it out. The real question you need to ask yourself is do you want to live in a country where things are cheap or a country that makes sure you can afford life.

[@khaitrilachong7619]

These guys are the brains of the country and problem solvers. Want to see more people like them join in to help out to solver what the country is facing.

[@stevedavenport1202]

I am so glad that Andrew Yang made UBI the center piece of his campaign. Its an issue which has languished in obscurity far too long.

[@WoodenBoatGuy]

The flaw in Cuban's argument against UBI is that the reason people might not go to work is not because they HAVE a UBI, but rather because they would LOSE it if they went back to work (just like his argument against the unemployment increase occurring right now). By making it Universal and NOT means-tested his argument falls apart.

[@sombd133]

I think he is more concerned and stuck on the point that people would just save rather than spend the money they get from UBI.

[@rickyneace]

@@sombd133The real shame is he's wrong from my perspective. If you had guranteed income and no fear of losing your job your more likely to spend. Maybe that ps5 looks more attractive if your not having to weigh it against paying your rent.

[@pt1122]

Lots of agreement here, just need to get Mark off this FJG hybrid.

[@turboaram1970]

yeah wtf is up with him wanting these not gauranteed gauranteed jobs

[@prestonhall5171]

In a recession like this federal jobs would not be that bad of an idea, they did it during the Great Depression.

[@michaelplant3036]

Yang's UBI is by far the best way to begin to fix things. UBI doesn't make people lazy it motivates them.

[@edgarquezada6052]

Andrew Yang is just human, not a politician. Humanity first. 2024

[@Neoquaker1]

I predict Cuban will be for some version of UBI.

[@ahhakattak9177]

I believe Mark Cuban is for UBI $2,000 a month debit card use it or lose it

[@Neoquaker1]

@@ahhakattak9177 Oh yes I remember now I heard about that. That would be a great stimulus plan.

[@milespatton7198]

Well you can rest assured, just like any other elite, if it doesn't benefit him... forget it.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

def i think he is but he doesnt want to speak out against his peers who obviously arnt on bored yet

[@warallied]

@@milespatton7198 there are many elites who spoke out against their peers 0 issues. That doesnt mean tho, that some of their criticism against anyone else is unfaire or untrue.

[@williamluong4991]

And Cuban's idea $15/hr and not agreeing with UBI does not pay stay-at-home moms taking care of her children

[@dahliaherrod4301]

His CBI does include pay for stay at home parents. He referred ti them as caretakers. I personally think it's too narrow a definition.

[@m1staack]

Moms aren’t the only ones staying home taking care of the future generation. Fathers have also stepped into the homemaker role. As a man who doesn’t support their family financially comes with some kinda shame. Giving the homemaker 1000$ a month gives that person more choice, more self worth, & overall better mental health. people building the future people are the most overlooked.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

college aged people left out of the stimulus was the dumbest shit you ever could have done first thing im doing with 1200 dollars is buying a new chair then food and groveries because honestly idek how im surviving and then id but a new phone cause i broke the fuck out of mine then id buy a new can opener because believe it or not i lost it at the protests two days ago shits real out here bois

[@Prague3203]

Its basically Yangs UBI with an extra step. The means-tested portion of that doesn't really make sense since it will amount to the same thing in the end, but if Cubans proposal sounds more acceptable to the general population I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed.

[@leonelavellaneda5907]

Young Blood Politics EXACTLY DUDE!!!

[@kennethrobinson7647]

Yang/Cuban 2020!

[@richardlee9207]

does Mark looks like he'd take orders from Andrew? Lol. Actually, very bad idea. MC is not that smart.

[@YersiniaPestisNPO]

We need Yang so much right now

[@dhyanastanley2521]

As I listened to these two entrepreneurs who have such ‘a head and heart’ for problem solving I began to feel how different our government would be if more politicians had an entrepreneurial spirit.

[@chojo2001]

12:00 Korea has already implemented a universal emergency cyber currency you can only spend on local businesses in 3 months.

[@coolbluereview]

Damn last time debates were this respectful and reasonable/organized was like 100 years ago

[@commonsense99]

Great discussion! We need more of this type of common-sense discussions.

[@midnite8729]

27:26 Mark it's because most businesses won't pay their workers enough, even with a higher min wage.. it's still never enough. We're calling grocery employees essential workers now but they don't get paid that way. In reality it was always essential, but they get paid the bottom of the totem pole indefinitely. I understand if businesses won't pay what they should, that's where UBI comes in .. it covers what business owners aren't when coupled with a job. Cuban sounds like he doesn't have a plan that's better.. or maybe he's ok with people living feebly

[@sclif6834]

Mark doesn’t get it. He definitely needs to think harder. He is saying well no one will work if there is a UBI. But in the next breath he is saying companies can be incentivized to pay people less because the UBI will back up what they pay. This is in direct conflict. Wish Yang would have picked up on this and pointed it out. Most likely UBI will actually drive up income because of the attitude that well this isn’t worth my time I can sit on UBI until I find something better 15 dollars would hurt my small business. 12 dollars seems to be the sweet point for my area. I’m sure elsewhere it could be more or less. Trust me I feel terrible about paying so little but 1000 bucks a month would fix this but at the same time would not make me want to pay less. Also his point of driving businesses to where it’s cheeper would actually be a good thing as where labor is cheep means there is a lack of jobs.

[@Jopeal]

@@sclif6834 I'm pretty sure Andrew picked up on Mark's flawed argument. Mark's point wasn't exactly a revelation, but Andrew was building trust and rapport in the interview and didn't want to directly confront Mark when there was little to gain from it at that moment. Andrew is very skilled politically and always forward thinking.

[@jonothonsmith6184]

@S Clif 8 I think what mark meant to get at more with his comment about no one working with UBI and comparing that to people not working because of UI at the moment is it gives people less incentive to work or work harder. So businesses would compensate for this by paying lower wages because UBI would cover a portion of it anyway and any risk that came with less productivity and efficiency of the employee which varies from person to person. UBI could drive up wages for some sectors, but I think for the majority of sectors, it won’t. Reason being UBI is only a supplement to a job. People will need to keep working and they’re going to be fighting for jobs regardless so the demand for limited positions will keep wages from rising. It’s fine if you’re mindset is “I’ll wait for a better opportunity because I have UBI”. But so does everyone else, so you’ll still be fighting with everyone else to get the job you want.

[@jonothonsmith6184]

@midnite mage People don’t get paid more just because their job is essential. The majority of jobs are essential, that’s why they’re jobs. Grocery workers are just more commonly seen and thought of is all. Excluding certain aspects of business/finance/sales, people get paid not by how essential their job is, but how much risk is associated with that job. A grocery worker who messes up a sales transaction doesn’t hurt much. It doesn’t impact many peoples’ lives. You can go home and not worry about work til your next shift. But if you’re a doctor, you messing up a surgery can change a person’s life forever. Although it’s not a perfect correlation, the level of risk associated with a job is a good indicator of the wage you get from it. That’s why workers flipping burgers at a joint don’t get paid the same as an engineer that constructs a building. The risk and brainpower involved is significantly more

[@rohitaug]

@@jonothonsmith6184 If people have less incentive to work then why would they work for a lower wage? Wouldn't you need to pay them more to make it worth their time? A lot of essential jobs are undervalued because people are doing them for survival. They aren't respectable jobs, the work is hard, and the pay is crap; of course people wouldn't want to do them if they had money to survive. It just means these essential jobs will have to pay like essential jobs to retain the workers, which would be a good thing.

[@auction00]

Thank you Andrew for continuing to promote Universal Basic Income, unfortunately the government is shaking their heads YES but sitting on their hands and watching the riots. What are they waiting for??? What's it gonna take for the government to move forward with UBI???

[@rickyneace]

I always just picture congress standing around with the building burning around them and just as their hair catches on fire they go "oooooooh you just wanted money directly in your hands and not given to corporations? Why didn't you just say so?" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@luckieoleary6459]

This podcast brings me a smile every time I watch

[@MikeRao]

Yang/Cuban 2020. You've got my vote!

[@FeatherX]

Remember, if you were lazy before, you will be lazy after. I personally have not become less productive because I received more money.

[@hannahfaye3680]

I'd be MORE productive. So many people just need a little money to be able to do more with their lives.

[@jzhz5269]

I disagree with mark alot of people didnt go back to work due to the scare of the pandemic.

[@zintel4471]

Probably a mixture of both. I know friends who aren't going back to work until their unemployment expires and we live in Florida which has nearly fully opened.

[@danielm5161]

Anyone with any honesty at all will tell you they aren't going back to work until unemployment is out. It simply doesn't make sense to go back, work a 9-5 for LESS then your getting now? That makes zero sense.

[@athomeactivism618]

@@danielm5161 It makes great sense to say yes to any reasonable job right now. In the short term someone might take a little less income than unemployment benefits, BUT THEY WILL HAVE A JOB. I don't see enough evidence of people refusing work.

[@xcitecarnalval6640]

george michael yeah we want to go back to work, but getting sick and going to the hospital sucks!

[@joshuawoodford7525]

@@athomeactivism618 people are most certainly refusing work, construction contractors are having a hard time getting workers back. From talking to dozens of owners and PMs weekly it's a major issue. It seems to be younger leaning and I am inclined to say that in general the more difficult/physically demanding the work the bigger the issue is getting workers back for less

[@KindHappyLove]

You would both have my vote. I sense a Yang and Cuban ticket coming in the future.

[@samiam003]

I'm all in for Cuban 2024.

[@angelherrera9370]

Let’s get this live

[@Neoquaker1]

Fuck it!!! Lets do it live!!!

[@keqinyangmuseum6183]

Do you know how ? Make it done!

[@buffalomafia7162]

YESSIR!

[@sharonm2097]

C'mon Mark. Do you think $1000 a month will allow people not work? That won't even cover rent in most places.

[@SunscreenAndVitamins]

Yeah, he doesn't get it. And he thinks UBI will encourage employers to pay less, when the reality is that they'd have to pay more, since the desperation factor has been removed. He just doesn't get it.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

duh workism at its finest

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

@@SunscreenAndVitamins also, HOW WOULD THEY PAY LESS IF THERES A MINIMUM WAGE AT THE LEVEL HE WANTS OF $15 that would be illegal

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

$1000 is a good starting point but we should raise it over time to be able to cover rents etc

[@onetrueslave]

And, for those who actually WOULD be able to somehow survive on UBI alone, what percentage could that possibly be? 1%? 2%? 0.6%? And, for how long would they be able to sustain their survival? I don't know, for me, the enormous amount of good that would come from a UBI vastly outweighs any downside of this type.

[@GamerGrampz]

Really enjoyed the video format vs. previous episodes with just audio. It doesn't have to be fancy and have a high production value... this was just fine the way it was IMHO.

[@djatlasmusik]

The real yang gang is here

[@tamonline01]

Did they just SLIDE IN that they're running together?! 26:50 Cuban: "There's nobody right now that I get excited about in government who's capable of this maybe you can be that guy maybe I'll be that guy maybe together we'll be that guy" Yang: "Together, man. We'll be like entrepreneur Voltron" hahaha

[@rebugcustomfx47]

Mark Cuban is one of the entrepreneur that look at his bottom line is more important than humanity bottom line. When you at that level of wealth. It very hard not to become more greedy.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

no shit hes a old man he didnt grow up with facebook defining there self esteem

[@jonesboy332]

During Yang's campaign I wanted so badly to have Cuban and Yang to have a sit down. I'm so happy to see it now... better late than never.

[@sherryberry2394]

Yang, you help me be excited about life post-Covid! Really enjoyed learning about Mark Cuban's ideas---a brilliant duo! This talk simply helped me feel good today, thanks!💜

[@maven12LA]

I think this channel is great and the brand art is great but I think the thumbnail needs a little bit of work. The colour is a bit dull. You could probably get more clicks with a better thumbnail

[@lisapatton1213]

Needs a lot of help for sure. I wouldn't go around claiming to be better at the internet when this is your product. Sorry Andrew.

[@liamhumphreys9011]

Lisa Patton agree it needs more work but it’s certainly better than any other politicians plus these are his brand colours but I agree needs mor work

[@lisapatton1213]

@@liamhumphreys9011 The format Tulsi uses on her show is worlds better. I don't think there is any good reason for this show not to have 10x the interest it currently has. I would never blame Andrew. He's busy trying to make the world a better place. But whoever is responsible for what we are seeing, should probably step aside. This isn't cutting it. It's going to get better, sure. Like many people I'm left wondering why it wasn't great in the first place.

[@lisapatton1213]

And before some one tries to state the obvious and say... well you know, it's on so many different platforms and yeah yeah... noooo kidding. It should still be better and if it were, more people who get to witness Yang's ideas. Obviously, until then...

[@vasred4265]

Lisa Patton I agree. Maybe the background framing could stick to Yang's signature shades of blue colors. BUT keep the Yang and the guest colored.

[@razzy521]

wired earbuds. someone needs to make a gofundme for our dude to get some quality podcasting gear

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

yeah its lofi but have you seen my channle im even broker then yangs podcast set up LOL

[@chmedlychmedenstein916]

I know you're making a joke but... as an audio professional, I say wired beats wireless almost every day of the week. Lower latency, higher reliability and, dare I say, better SQ?

[@fantasy8833]

He doesn’t want the radiation from Bluetooth and wifi

[@arik_dev]

@@fantasy8833 Bluetooth and wifi signals transmit at a lower energy wavelength than visible light. If bluetooth devices scare you, you should be terrified of the lightbulb in your room.

[@perspectiveproductions7634]

Andrew yang DONT STOP THESE PODCAST! I’m a republican that believes in you ! Even as president you should do this !

[@ninjaOboy]

Yang gang isn't stopping yang 2024🤘

[@pt1122]

Mark the most powerful thing u can provide young people is some passive income!!!!! Its a floor and a launching pad.

[@fantasy8833]

Why don’t the govt just give the subsidies to smaller companies and less restrictions on entrepreneurs

[@gcod3d161]

Unprepared ToDie when has the u.s gov provided passive income to younger people (more likely to take risks) unconditionally and has resulted in what you hypothesize?

[@dht580]

@@gcod3d161 He's making a general argument that isn't necessarily wrong. It's not so much about providing passive income, as it is about how the program would be funded. Unprepared is saying increased government spending leads to monetary inflation; which it does. I don't necessarily agree with his view on the program; just clarifying what he's saying.

[@MyNameIsntRyan]

Cuban is a guy with good values at heart but his vision has been blinded by his incredible success and wealth. He is more concerned about a few Americans not working because they get a pitiful $1000/month than the millions of people that would be lifted from poverty and misery. Cuban needs to stop thinking like a businessman and start thinking like a human being.

[@milespatton7198]

The guy barely speaks Human anymore. He looks about only a couple years away from being the next Bloomberg.

[@maplesyrup76]

He also said that people are saving their $1200 gov check... really!?!? The CERB checks in Canada (my country)are $2000 a month and ongoing. People are still just scraping by. Are Americans so rich that they can just take the $1200 and throw it in a savings account? Please help me understand what Mr. Cuban is talking about.

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

totally exactly 100% affirmative WTF affirmination you want i got you and AGREEE

[@TheRoyalFino]

Cuban isn't the first to do this but it's funny to me how successful people who are visionaries, like him, seem to assume "If I got $1000 as a young adult, I wouldn't have worked." People don't just lose their life goals and aspirations if their needs are met. That's not a normal occurrence. Working a job for an employer does not make people into great entrepreneurs or great workers. It's being dedicated and driven while doing something you enjoy. And you don't need to be forced into the workforce to get that and often it's a hinderance for those looking to build something.

[@johnnyboy3570]

David Wills so you want Americans to get on your ubi plan so they can be broke just like the Canadians maybe, the reason they can save money is because they haven’t had ubi

[@flatironnewyork]

Andrew, you and Mark riff really well together. What a dream ticket you guys would be. Please make it happen 🙏🏼

[@xryyl]

Love both of you. We need a new party and get rid of the corrupt politicians.

[@nic8671]

Yang Cuban 2020

[@frankieibarra939]

To Mark's point on unemployment CARES act/UBI, sure the incentive of the extra $600 is great and most are receiving more not working, it's temporary. It's not UBI and it's extremely temporary. Not to mention, if your employer calls to offer your job back and you refuse because of unemployment... you lose it. So either way, the act is designed to help those who can not work until they can. What they really need to do is pass hazard pay for those who worked... it's kind of a slap in the face to those who were able to keep their jobs but were still struggling.

[@Bladeclaw00100]

Yes and I wish Yang called him out on that. $600 is not UBI because there is a qualification attached to it. Besides people are not going to work cause there is not much work available. You think people chose to stay home and save money. No, people want to get back to work that's why unemployment is a big concern in the first place. On a side note I don't think unemployment is a concern at all. I actually want unemployment to reach about 80% to 95% and automation to replace as many jobs as possible relieving man from these tasks. In the meantime give everyone a temporary livable UBI and replace the economy with a resource based or voluntary based economy. Then remove UBI and let people thrive in a new system without the need of monetary gain. This eliminates poverty, many many crimes, saves our resources, reduces waste, and improves our public health. Let this economy crash. Replace it with a new non-monetary and improved system.

[@tallanddark89]

We gotta talk about getting financial literacy classes in middle and high schools

[@mattbahi5821]

The establishment has no incentive to include this.

[@angelaasadi9283]

We need you guys to make the decisions that will help lead this country forward.

[@diamonddbw]

Andrew was Definitely the ONLY technically & economicly literate candidate. Please don't stop talking and moving.

[@richardlee9207]

Cuban answered his own question on UBI. First he said that UBI disincentivises people from work which is itself a debunked arguement. Then he said UBI subsidizes employees wages where employers know they already got $1000 a month from government so employers may cut their employees wages... Both of his statements are wrong and contradicting. If people are not incentivised to work then employers must raise wages to incentivise workers to work for them. When people have options they will quit If their employers cut their wages. When they got 1k a month they do have option to quit and looking for other opportunity.

[@leealexander3507]

We will soon have millions of homeless rather than the half million we have. UBI could safe so many businesses that will otherwise go under.

[@LiveShowVideos]

#YangGang where you at ?

[@noreenhappel8531]

We need Mr. Yang's UBI AND Medicare for All.

[@dandafunk]

Americans have been more “productive” over the last 30 years with no real increase in pay in 30 years. So the “productivity” argument holds no water. We’ve all been downsized and doing 3 times the work we did 10 or 15 years ago. CEO pay is not tied to “productivity.” So cut the head off the hydra of “publicly” traded companies and solve the wealth gap. You can make as much money as you want but if 68% are making more money then they were getting so exploited on so called “employment” then your exploitation system is obviously broken. Americans shouldn’t have to be slaves to your exploitation corporate systems and still not be able to pay their basic living expenses. Our Corporatocracy has been unsustainable for a long time so the fact that it crashed is proof of its unsustainability.

[@johnnyboy3570]

Danda Funk that’s because big government takes all the increases in productivity the average guy who makes 50k a year pays over 50% in taxes, what if he only had to pay like 10%, we need to stop the big government welfare that we have, not add more big government with ubi

[@jasonmarch1983]

Not true, if you take out government spending from GDP productivity has been stagnant for almost 20 years now.

[@jakeleisure8326]

@@johnnyboy3570 Math major?

[@michaellim4165]

@@johnnyboy3570 You don't need big government for UBI. It can be done effectively in a MUCH streamlined method than the current method today. We can get rid of all the regulations that is boggling down on the IRS tax codes. That would improve the red tape.

[@healthygrowth7760]

Americans do not produce anything lol. Where do you come up with production going up last 30 year's... A Childers book maybe??

[@chris.rodgers]

Mark, maybe the reason people don't want to go back to work has less to do with the extra $600 a month of unemployment and more to do with that there's still a pandemic going on.

[@rickyneace]

Crazy talk! It's just a little death whats the worst that could happen! (Seriously this idea people should die just so the economy grinds on and billionaires get richer sickens me to the core)

[@gracialonignasiver6302]

I disagree with the theory that people are refusing to return to work due to a lingering fear of the pandemic. The reason for this is because of the mass social gatherings that are happening all over the country. It's quite clear that people are already beyond their fear, if most even had it to begin with, as you have to take into account that many weren't going to work because they were ordered not to.

[@nic8671]

@@gracialonignasiver6302 - People may not fear for themselves, but know that they can unknowingly become a carrier and pass it on to those who are more vulnerable and could cause others to get ill and/or die. So, as a healthy 35 year old, I'm not staying in only for myself, but for others as well.

[@nic8671]

It's most likely a mixed bag. People may want to be responsible citizens, but also may be enjoying the time off. People don't get nearly enough vacation time- and many people work more than full time jobs.

[@jakeleisure8326]

@@rickyneace Halting the economy has hurt the poor far worse rich ppl. Restarting the economy will help poor ppl far more than it will help "rich" folks "Rich" folks have been fine, are fine, and will be just fine.

[@evanpearce1015]

This is how actual leaders discuss pertinent issues regarding our future

[@davidsegal2236]

I like the vast difference in atmosphere. Look at the doors. Cuban’s door are super fancy and custom French doors and Yang’s look like a Home depot special.

[@deliriousarmy3940]

but the home depot guy shines better

[@pt1122]

Cuban not getting the point that workers will have leverage because they have UBI...Employer will have to treat people fair to get them to work for them.

[@Ryan-lo1kg]

He gets that UBI would give workers the leverage. That's why as an employer he is intuitively against it.

[@grandmaster-grouch]

i think you are not getting the point.. btw what is the point described by you.

[@drsmetal2747]

Cuban needs to understand about automation AI will take many jobs and UBI has to he a solution.

[@Bladeclaw00100]

Yes UBI is a good temporary solution. It will definitely help us as we transition from this economy to a voluntary, or resource based economy not dependent on money. Then we can remove UBI and thrive in a new system. Our current economic system is destroying us. instead of saving it we need to replace it. UBI is a good way to bridge the gap. But not something to say on forever.

[@drsmetal2747]

@@Bladeclaw00100 permanent.

[@crazybrker]

Awesome conversation, these guys could save the world.

[@peacerus]

I love your real conversations about solutions, and that you are actually acting on them. We can have millions that do this and create our America 2.0!

[@jaxpink4555]

we gotta get yang a stylist but his charisma carries the weight for now

[@hey.m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

lol lets put him in saint laurent head to toe (personally my favorite designing brand :)

[@TheTokelosh]

Cuban didn't stop working when he reached his first billion, why would an everyday person stop working when they receive UBI? Flawed logic from Cuban.

[@mukr2914]

thats true..people do have aspirations like touring,buy more healthy food etc..so they work for it and additional income would set a a bar

[@rick15666]

Great point! I was hoping to hear Yang drive home the idea that individuals would have a little breathing room to finally kickstart that “crazy” entrepreneurial venture they’ve been mulling over in their head for years.

[@ecxstasy347]

Because Cuban is not an average everyday person, he’s an entrepreneur.

[@AllanYacaman]

Marc and yang would be the title breakers of the world

[@joeybaby.]

As a retire individual, this was mind blowing . The future they speak of sounds awesome. But I won't be here to imbibe in fifty years . What a dynamic duel Andrew and Mark could change this nation forever ,finally after six decades we'd be going in the right direction. Now let's us pray .......