THIS Wish.com Gaming PC is WORSE!

[@MayaPosch]

The power lead with a ground cable is a Japanese-style cable. Most outlets in Japan are ungrounded, but some will have a ground 'pole' sticking out to which you can connect the separate ground lead. This is required for outlets that e.g. AC units connect to. Why this PSU came with a Japanese-style power lead is... weird.

[@cyberwomble7524]

Scythe is a Japanese company - I guess it was sourced directly from Japan.

[@kmoecub]

That also used to be a thing in the U.S. Older homes (and some current homes) had the electrical boxes grounded through the bezel screw. It's still common to be able to buy 2 prong to 3 prong adapters with a prong that attaches to the bezel screw. The original outlets in my 1920's home were all 2 prong (and unfortunately entirely ungrounded).

[@oplkfdhgk]

intresting. :)

[@JorgeAlarconL]

Power Supplies imported from Japan almost every time comes with that ground connector. I imported my Superflower Leadex III 850W and came with it's own PSU cable with the same ground cable.

[@devilmikey00]

Yeah, even in North America in older homes a lot of the outlets won't be grounded but usually you just buy adapters here instead of companies putting on a pole to ground.

[@taichim2010]

Actually, Kuroutoshikou is a trusted and a well known brand in Japan for those who opt for budget pc builds. I never used their product though.

[@neokixxx]

Galax/galakuro is one of their product as well. I think they are not good at branding, but their products are okey and very very generic.

[@kunstderfugue]

I was SO SURPRISED when I read the name Kuroutoshikou because I thought "wow that brand name is too long" and then I thought "wait it sounds like a bunch of kanji" LOL. I'm so happy someone else noticed.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

My 780Ti was from Kuroutoshikou, and it was perfectly fine for the 4 years or so I used it!

[@jort93z]

I am pretty sure it is the same as the galax/kf2 1030. Probably a rebrand of some sort. Good brand, I have a kf2 gpu myself. It is one of the few brands that even makes white gpu's at all.

[@arcticblue2]

I live in Japan and have bought some of their GPUs in the past. They are pretty decent in my experience.

[@i486DX66]

RE: 3:13 - My guess is that was a Gigabyte board that failed quality controls over the DVI port and possible other issues. Someone took the QC reject boards (basically stole them from the company) and sold them on Wish.

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

You mean the vendor or a manager at the vendor sold them directly. China has many brands based around products rejected by the companies that ordered them. Could be typos on a branded shirt, could be unsafe furniture, all manner of things.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Sometimes I feel that people run around and continue running the factors after hours and that is how we get those knockoff things. Or they just cheaply buy machines meant for disposal, but keep them in use to produce other stuff.

[@AF-kh1ki]

@@HappyBeezerStudios I dont know how it works with the tech sector, but when it comes to clothes the factories and plants used for all the big fashion brands either simultaneously produce knockoff shit or are placed right next to the factories that produce the fake stuff. So there's a lot of overlap and sharing of info/resources when it comes to producing this stuff.

[@djsi38t]

Nope its just a clean used board.Those things are a dime a dozen.

[@RINFUSN]

The really really REALLY sad thing for me is: This PC has better specs than mine

[@jojocat8637]

Same

[@Andrew-sv5xn]

Me too lol

[@imsovereign]

I have an i3 10th gen integrated graphics laptop 😭

[@ArthurMetalHead]

Im gonna be honest same. My specs are Intel core i3-3320, intergrated graphics, and 4 GB of ram

[@ArthurMetalHead]

@@imsovereign me too 😭

[@YHDiamond]

Redoing the most profitable video. Stonks

[@Yo-ItsYo]

Running out of ideas. Stinks.

[@michaelf.2449]

@@Yo-ItsYo nah itd be hard to run out of ideas about tech

[@mraleko]

@@Yo-ItsYo who cares it’s still entertaining

[@bigchungusmocha4381]

@@Yo-ItsYo cry more

[@kanesgames7474]

Who wouldn’t if you could 😂

[@randomosity4501]

Every day I become more convinced the company only exists so Linus can afford to drop stuff.

[@rubyminecart1088]

haha same

[@tommygunnnn1770]

He does it on purpose

[@vives6164]

Linus Drop Tips

[@backdoorbursta2866]

Cos he is an entitled prick.

[@Camera-Guy_ODST]

Is there a store where I can buy what Linus has broke

[@cadderley100]

The worst part of that is, 10 years back, that would have been considered a top spec gaming PC. You could have bought a Ryzen 5 with a Vega 11 gpu for less than $400, have some change, and still gotten a much better gaming PC over all.

[@tree_alone]

You just described my own computer... Lol

[@louistournas120]

I would like that case. I need a optical drive bay.

[@spiceforspice3461]

@@louistournas120 Why not just use an external optical drive?

[@Ady_Mih]

@@spiceforspice3461 looks ugly

[@fattelitirare4117]

i hate how ppl have no respect for money, stuff and dont give a shiet how treath it

[@jennymckenzie5304]

I wonder if "buffoon" is because the brand is named "Jester" or "Harlequin" or something and it's an synonym they don't know the implications of post translation.

[@WunjoxFlo]

The worst thing is that this is literally a Dell Optiplex configuration. And an Optiplex can be found for like 80€. Add an SSD and a low profile GPU and you get more performance for less than half the price of this monstrosity 😬

[@smooth8094]

He intentionally bought crap to make a video on it its very evident there were far better deals than this

[@_ezeXO]

great point.

[@bitelaserkhalif]

But is it upgradeable? Optiplex has proprietary BS

[@thej7362]

@@bitelaserkhalif its not like that Wish PC was upgrade-able, that shit would break before you could take your next breath i currently have an old workstation with a good gpu as a pc, it works perfectly fine and has been for years, no need to upgrade yet

[@jaytnacks]

@@bitelaserkhalif the older optiplex's are pretty good, even though it's proprietary, many parts are interchangeable

[@DanB95]

I can confirm that random mini screwdrivers seem to come with random things on Wish for no reason. I bought a pair of shoes just for fun and it had one of those 🤣

[@NeighborSenpai]

You mean you don't screw the shoes to your socks?

[@SectorfiveYT]

I have those from Aliexpress when I bought replacement screens for my phones, but they were actually useful to me, I assembled the screen with them.

[@alumlovescake]

@@NeighborSenpai Of course he doesn't What is he an alien? He screws them directly to he feet

[@SpinoRexy733]

@@NeighborSenpai I thought you screwed your shoes on to your feet.

[@NeighborSenpai]

@@SpinoRexy733 is this why feet have mounting brackets?

[@jonludwig1632]

A thousand people have probably already mentioned this but that "ground pin" is the standard in Japan, where grounded wall sockets are so rare as to be nearly non-existent. Spent seven years there and most of my electronic power cables looked like that.

[@HappyDude1]

Sounds dangerous

[@auzzierocks]

@@HappyDude1 Japan is really backwards with a lot of standards

[@HappyDude1]

@@auzzierocks Really ? they make such good electronics and cars 😀 But its not what it used to be like in 90's

[@HilbertXVI]

Why mention it again when everyone's already mentioned it?? Lol

[@jjjacer]

@@HappyDude1 not totally, most electronics are insulated so if there is a short you wont get electrocuted (at least in America you do not see many devices with a ground pin either.), and while japanese outlets dont have a ground pin, some will have a small door that opens up to a ground screw that you can ground too. also as long as the breakers are GFCI/RCBO breakers if there is a leak to ground it will trip (say if you drop your hair dryer in water) Not saying its perfect, both japanese and americas home electrical can suck (ive wired my own stuff and seen some stupid crap before), it could be a lot worse especially in really old homes were they might still be using knob and tube wiring, fuses, and all sorts of problematic standards of old.

[@Eli_Kennemer]

11:17 Protip: Ground lead can be used on a two pin socket and attached under the screw that mounts the faceplate - In most cases that should make contact with the outlet housing/box which should be grounded (if the installer did that)

[@ThisIsTechToday]

I'm pretty sure all the computer hardware purchased from Wish comes from all of the KZbinrs making Wish computer builds 😂

[@yuxuanhuang3523]

Same. Linus: who buys all this? Me: You of course

[@prawny12009]

Its like that south park episode about TV jewellery shopping channels.

[@harmsc12]

Forget computer hardware. Pretty much all of Wish's customers are KZbinrs riffing on their garbage.

[@emicharr]

Im live in “””2nd world””” country and ive seen people use wish becasue amazon apparently is more expensive?

[@mattblatchley2061]

💯

[@stykefilmstudios4230]

“You don’t need a screwdriver to install a cable!” He says after installing the totally standard ground connector for the psu with a screwdriver

[@76TyranT76]

Was looking for this one before posting myself lol.

[@joshuahadams]

Serial, parallel, VGA, & DVI cables came with thumbscrews on the plugs like 90% of the time. Wouldn’t particularly wanna use a screwdriver and risk breaking the the thumbscrews, but you *could*. Don’t see them popping up on LTT unless it’s a retro special, though.

[@randomgamingin144p]

ltt screwdriver

[@tombu4484]

FYI fellow viewers: The ground pin on the PSU you saw was Japanese standard, and the box was also for Japanese market. I have seen Kuroutoshiku once on TechPowerUp GPU database, and it was a re-branded PowerColor Fighter (the lower-end MSRP-grade) RX 6700 XT.

[@DarkTrapStudio]

PIN THIS COMMENT !

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Came here to post this, THEN saw your post :)

[@darianbarber3763]

Me sweating with the RX 6700 XT by powercolor fighter🥵🥵

[@RusselNotSCP]

Can confirm, I've bought UPSs when I was in japan from reputable sources and they had this kind of ground plug.

[@eniseekay]

Before I read this comment, I laughed my ass off at their confusion at that part of the video.

[@alexjones8843]

Y'all are the only channel I don't scrub through the sponsor break because you keep it short and sweet... thank you.

[@WouterVerbruggen]

Those grounding wires are common in Japan. Also that switch has nothing to do whatsoever with PFC (power factor correction). That switch is simply so 1 type of unit can work at different volt levels. PFC is to correct for capacitive/inductive loads to reduce the reactive power, which is essentially wasted power on the grid.

[@Torbjorn.Lindgren]

Except... 110/230V capable PSU's with Active PFC tend to use one of the "Boost PFC" circuits which generates a fixed DC voltage as output, often ~400V, regardless of input voltage in a fairly wide range, 85-265V is pretty common. So there's no voltage switch on these. So, you're technically correct in that the switch doesn't PROVE anything about the PFC, it's quite possible to build a PSU with active PFC that require a voltage switch for 110/230V but it would likely cost as much or more than one without that switch which is probably why I can't remember seeing one at the moment. So in practice Linus is correct in that there's a very strong correlation between that switch and the PSU having either passive PFC or no PFC. Yes, Linus could have formulated it more precisely. But then he wouldn't be Linus... 🙂

[@xephonraphael]

@@Torbjorn.Lindgren Yup, it's a sign of a crap PSU by modern standards.

[@davidkane4300]

Came here for this... Japan uses similar receptacles as the US, but only two prong, so you have to ground like those old three-to-two prong adapters that use the cover screw between the two receptacles.

[@RuxUnderscore]

@@davidkane4300 Yeah, and some modern outlets in Japan will have a small cover below one of the 2 prongs that will be were you can plug in the ground wire. And I do believe it is possible to get 3 pin outlets as well, but they aren't super common yet. To add, in Japan they have two different power grids separated between North and South, one runs on 50Hz while the other runs on 60Hz. There is a history there that I won't get into on a post.

[@sebastianpetreus5668]

I came to say this also. Every computer I’ve built in Japan from 2005 to 2013 all had that kind of ground. There is no ground plug on Japanese outlets. I still use an old one for a monitor after moving to the states.

[@mndlessdrwer]

In case anyone was curious: yes, in most instances you can actually get away with only populating half of the 8-pin EPS connector if you are using a relatively low power CPU.

[@doggo_woo]

Can confirm, I still use a 4 pin connector for my cpu

[@xander087]

Worked fine on my HTPC back in the day no problem. It later turned into a NAS.

[@sheldonkupa9120]

Confirmed, works flawless as long as your cpu is not a power hungry monster. Tried it. H510 mobo with 10105f cpu, ran several benches without problem. BUT: its a sign your psu is not designed for such modern hardware and generally not recommended i would say.

[@AC3handle]

Define 'low power' please.

[@mndlessdrwer]

@@AC3handle Between 96W (officially) and 192W (unofficially). It'll depend on the power supply, but most should be more than capable of powering a 95W or less CPU unless the motherboard is expecting to see additional 12V lines on the other pins in the EPS 8-pin socket. That does sometimes happen for boards in the enthusiast space and was shockingly common on boards designed for some of AMD's most power-hungry chips. I wouldn't even be particularly concerned about trying to run something up to the, like, 115W range off of a single 4-pin P4 connector since it was designed specifically to meet the power demands of the Pentium 4 (hence the name) and those peaked at 115W.

[@handspiker1994]

The grounding plug is used in Japan. Japan also uses type A outlets like we do in Canada/US. They probably just used a JP plug instead of having separate stock of US plugs. EDIT: The writing on the box is also Japanese instead of Chinese, so probably just a JP power supply Wish bought in bulk.

[@RaynmanPlays]

The fact that Linus called over a Chinese employee to ask about a very obviously Japanese product is just... so perfect.

[@maxheadroom22and26]

You don't buy things from wish! You buy stuff from small(?) sellers mainly from china. It's the same like buying from aliexpress, ebay or amazon marketplace. Except that prices are way too high (at least including shipping) and that there are many fakes. Whoever uses wish WANTS to be scammed... Or just doesn't know better.

[@FlylHigh]

You are half right. That's Japanese Kanji, which are pretty much Chinese characters. They can be read by both parties.

[@RaynmanPlays]

@@FlylHigh Except there's katakana and hiragana on the package, which are decidedly _not_ Chinese.

[@jort93z]

@@RaynmanPlays I mean, wish is a chinese website. So it isn't far fetched to think it is a chinese plug. Though, I don't think they sell much/anything in china, sooo.

[@TheSpotify95]

And this is why you don't buy PC components from WISH... More expensive than eBay and also worse quality than what you can get on the used market.

[@Levy_Wilson]

That card is actually a Japanese 1030. During the GPU shortage, that was actually making 1030s expensive, I had to import one from Japan because it was actually cheaper than buying one from US retailers. Looks like some Wish reseller got the same idea.

[@gasparayakos8215]

How is the performance on those compared to normal Nvidia ones?

[@gasparayakos8215]

How is the performance on those compared to normal Nvidia ones?

[@Levy_Wilson]

@@gasparayakos8215 Just your typical 1030. Just gotta make sure it's gddr5. They're just a board partner in Japan, so it's no different than a Gigabyte or an Asus card.

[@lafireteamplx3400]

@@Levy_Wilson importing a 1030 😂😂😂 brokie!!

[@Sungblox]

@@lafireteamplx3400hey, if you fall under tough times, you gotta do what you gotta do. you probably will encounter it sooner or later

[@generalmisery]

I bought the fans once too (for a arduino project). They are very likely to catch fire. I plugged them in and luckily outside the case to cool me and I was at the computer when it happened. It happened with both.

[@StrokeMahEgo]

"It means that people must be buying it, right!?" No Linus, it's just you. Sellers put stuff on Wish with the hope that they'll make it into a LTT video.

[@MrHack4never]

Him and Stuart Ashens

[@teg24601]

If not him, Austin Evans or Dawid.

[@ruthmoreton6975]

Those socket 939 heatsinks terrified me. I could never afford "the good stuff" and as you say "you gotta do what you gotta do" and I had to use the screwdriver technique every time. On a motherboard I could not really afford to replace.

[@kelsipherzatozia840]

That style of grounding on the PSU is standard in Japanese apartments and houses. Almost all of the electrical outlets will be 2 prong. Only in rooms for high wattage electronics like the kitchen and laundry room will have a little covered grounding screw for you to attach the grounding wire.

[@awogei]

Yep, This is standard in Japan. The laptop I bought back then there has this power plug

[@SeventhEntropy]

Okay, Japan does a lot of thing better than the rest of the world, but this is absolutely not one of them. That is a horrible way of doing it.

[@ちょしん]

Imagined someone will tell the truth xD

[@CMDRkarstenvader]

well THAT sounds fucking safe...

[@toz_man3904]

@@SeventhEntropy xenophobia being one of the things they do much better than everyone else

[@dumpsterdawg]

The All Wish gaming pc..... Wishing you won't have to call the fire dept.

[@SleepLessThan3]

Wishing your insurance company doesn't see the video

[@Ultravod]

Linus attempting to play TF2 in Valve's official Casual mode was even more dangerous than the Wish PC build.

[@IvanTube0]

truly

[@SoggyMicrowaveNugget]

Thankfully they have made a LOT of progress cleaning it up by Hiring a team to fix the Underlying bot account issue.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

@@SoggyMicrowaveNugget Correct. Instead of 9/10 servers being full of bots, 8/10 are bot-free in my experience.

[@normalhuman4951]

I dont find that many bots anymore tbh and if they get kicked in less then a min actualy pretty good

[@Maednc]

Hi, is the player base still a lot for TF2? i was thinking of trying it for the first time.

[@troutfanboy4149]

school computer speedrun

[@ballingbob]

lol

[@octavian7890]

Its acc alr

[@ФдФ]

this is probably better that the computers at my school, they run on windows XP I think lol

[@octavian7890]

@@ФдФ bro its a good pc ngl, gta would go crazy on this

[@laudedbattlecry]

Speaking from experience it ends up on Wish because sellers use multi listing apps or services that list on a bunch of different sites and adjust the list price based on the percentage the site charges. They don’t really expect to make a lot of sales on places like wish but do it anyway because it’s literally hitting a check box so why not?

[@jeremyjsutton]

I'm really shocked that there wasn't an LTT Screwdriver plug when he broke the DERAM screwdriver.

[@Matty.Hill_87]

Massive missed opportunity

[@jasoman3899]

@@Matty.Hill_87he didn't want to say neither screwdriver has warranty

[@SlyNine]

Fail

[@netu3493]

Same

[@SkaveRat]

sure, but why would I want to buy an LTT screwdriver after getting a DERAM one? The latter is clearly superior

[@Hedrix01]

This loose packaging of the motherboard is quite common in industry, even for expensive equipment. For circuit boards, this is usually the normal packaging. Its only for consumers where fancy form-fitting foams are common.

[@Karagoth444]

Can't trust those peasants to handle their motherboards properly, better add some foam

[@jensenraylight8011]

how low your standard could drop, can you drop it even lower?

[@AM23.]

Wrong

[@Teth47]

@@AM23. In my experience doing ATM breakfix calls OP is correct. If it's just a PCB it's almost always loose in a box, even for a $10,000 ATM control board. It's pretty wild.

[@AM23.]

@@Teth47 That's so weird🤷‍♂️

[@CatBoxOfficial]

This pc from wish is better than my phone 💀💀💀💀💀

[@megachadsixtynine5924]

Was half-expecting Linus to say “And who’s our sponsor?”

[@JZTechEngineering]

Lastpass

[@colinstu]

EBAY!!

[@SuperJoePardo]

Tunnel bear!!

[@chirag1764]

@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ok

[@xpyr]

@@chirag1764 do not reply, it's a bot.

[@devforfun5618]

the new motherboard without a box is easy to explain, they buy oem boards that come in one package and sell the individually, so of course they don't have the retail box

[@nequleg]

Or, considering the crooked DVI port, they got a bunch of motherboards that failed QC for cheap. Then sell the ones that work, and maybe fix the ones that don't and then sell those as well

[@Jackie89000]

What does oem mean?

[@devforfun5618]

@@Jackie89000 original something manufacturer, it is basically parts for factories, just think of how much trash that generates if every component comes with an individual package

[@Jackie89000]

@@devforfun5618 oh, so, like just buying wholesale stock? Makes sense.

[@mousejjt2]

​@@devforfun5618original equipment manufacturer I believe it stand s for

[@adu2018debater]

The reason why SCYTHE is still making those old designed PSU's in 2022 is that they have branded that particular product as "ideal as a replacement power supply for Mini-ITX cases and slim cases, such as systems using various SFF (Small Form Factor / small system) power-saving CPUs, refreshing old generation PC power supplies, etc." Also, the Graphics Card from 玄人志向(Expert Oriented) is a famous brand in Japan. It's a sub-brand of バッファロー(Buffalo) which is also famous for making quality budget computer peripherals. 玄人志向(Expert Oriented) mainly makes budget hardware for PCs.

[@hofweb]

I have a Kurotoshiko GPU and never had a problem with it. Decent brand. With proper research, Linus should have known that the PSU power plug with separate ground wire is standard in Japan.

[@collinschofield808]

So that GPU actually probably was a pretty alright deal?

[@adu2018debater]

@@collinschofield808 yea but I don't know if they have any warranty in Canada or USA so I wouldn't recommend it to everyone

[@Josh_Quillan]

I didn't know 玄人志向 was a Buffalo brand, interesting.

[@hofweb]

@@Idiomatick I used to live in Japan. The plugs are not round.

[@balintmecsei6162]

I actually liked how that case looks, wouldn't buy it for this much, but if it was quarter the price I would go for it and drill some holes on the back for psu ventilation.

[@Michael-zf1ko]

I thought the same thing. It would make for an awesome home theater PC. It even has an optical drive bay.

[@FerdhianAkbar]

my first pc was built in that case, different front panel but the chassis is exactly the same. only cost me $20-ish brand new and heck yes its fun to mod

[@RK-zf1jm]

the case is literally avilable on ebay for less than half

[@penfold7800]

Im sure ive seen similar cases with included psu's for £35 before, brand new. I would go standing anything on them tho, theyre very tinny thin. Damn I miss the ol' IBM cases that were strong enough to take the weight of a 24" CRT.

[@michal_king478]

that cpu reminds me of the time when I bought an i7 2600k a few years back. Surprised to see it runs at 5GHz no problem. But when it arrived, it was wrapped in some thin styrofoam inside a small seethrough box and the package was labeled something like "plastic foam" value: 1usd.

[@kwarra-an]

Great for avoiding import duties

[@sheltongolden4394]

Gotta secure the memory with screws so the PC doesn't "DeRAM."

[@killerspee08]

Seriously no one told ya... just get out !

[@fordony]

please never say that again

[@JovianSpaceSystems]

"only a gt 1030" My graphics card for a few more hours lol

[@JovianSpaceSystems]

and cpu is a bit better than my i5 4570

[@tams805]

11:25 That's how grounding works in Japan. It's only needed for high-powered devices, so you'll usually find one outlet with it in the kitchen for the fridge, and one in the utility area for the washing machine. Why Japan hasn't moved on to a proper grounding pin like the rest of the world... I don't know.

[@Armonth]

I do not answer, because I do not know the answer as such. But one hypothesis I have is that since they are so strict about housing* I imagine they have a culture of keeping construction costs very, very low. Imagine if an earthquake cuts the "ground spike" and a whole building is left ungrounded, this should be better than nothing. *(a house unoccupied for X time usually is directly DEMOLISHED to avoid fires/propagation of pests and, later, a new one is built. The matter of earthquakes, etc...) As anecdote, in my country, in the old days (grandfather or even before), grounding was done with a wire wrapped around whatever-they-have-in-hand, usually the copper bathtubs they had...

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Armonth bathtubs and space heaters are a good option for "emergency" grounding.

[@rocketPower047]

I had fun getting zapped by my laptop in Japan

[@DoubleMonoLR]

Grounding shouldn't only be for 'high powered devices', grounding should be for any metal cased mains electronics(unless it has an external power adaptor, so only has a low voltage inside the case) that aren't "double insulated"(labelled as a square inside another square). Maybe you meant high voltage? The power consumption isn't relevant if a live wire contacts a metal case, and consequently shocks you with however much current it can get through your body! If the metal shell is earthed, it blows the fuse, rather than trying to electrocute you. Fridges and washing machines are typically metal, and would probably be harder to insulate.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

@@rocketPower047 That's most likely not related to electrical grounding, most or probably all laptops are charged with a DC supply with no earth connection to the laptop. Grounding should only make a difference if there was something severely wrong with the power brick of the charger. Any voltage difference can cause a shock, and indeed touching something earthed at the same time as touching something with a voltage applied can make the shock worse.

[@albert328]

The display card is actually from a respectable minimalistic Japanese brand that was famous in Japan's DIY field.

[@littlebosaMusic]

No surprise it was the only component to hold up

[@deadasfboi]

@@littlebosaMusic Yeah when it ran Tf2 I was surprised to see how well it was running! That grounding connection is odd for the PSU.

[@sinni800]

@@deadasfboi Though also very Japanese, they still have this style of grounding connection and it's weird.

[@hsienkangliu1436]

Nah, i think it is a Chinese brand but with a japanese name, just like genshin impact

[@albert328]

@@hsienkangliu1436 your username looks like you are Taiwanese, if so how do you not know this famous Akiba DIY brand?

[@calebharper9567]

11:25 I believe that is a Japanese standard- the outlets over there are primarily North American-style ungrounded, with an optional ground pin.

[@Donvermo]

Can confirm, was confused as hell when I first encountered them.

[@jeremyjsutton]

Can confirm. Lived there for a couple of years, and this is definitely their standard.

[@neokixxx]

Can confirm. I was born here in Japan and never used ground pin ever lol

[@aoyuki1409]

@@neokixxx please make sure your pc is grounded. Especially if u have fur or pets in the house

[@DriveCancelDC]

@@aoyuki1409 In Japan the breakers have ground protection so you don't really need the extra cable anyway and many people do not bother using them. It's called an earth leakage circuit breaker.

[@krisdooman89]

I think the Dram screws were for when you add the old school aftermarket heat spreaders. Clip on or screw on metal heat sinks. My dad had them in his first PC.

[@adamsaint2890]

Ahh the COOLMOON cooler. Perfect for cheap kid's PCs with acrylic side panels. Having built a few of those, I am a fan (no pun) Cooling is equivalent to the stock Intel cooler but obvs with RGB.

[@mementocity]

I remember seeing those once but picked another cheaper ID cooler thing and actually beated my stock cooler, good to know i wasnt missing a lot

[@fleurdewin7958]

Coolmoon... Probably want to fool potential buyers into thinking that they can overclock their CPU to the moon with the cooler.

[@jakestocker4854]

I've had their RGB fans completely catch fire using the Molex cable not once but like 3 times (they kept sending replacements) they do have some decent cheap coolers on Amazon though,

[@guily6669]

It's probably a copy of a very old Zalman cooler and the RGB is only R, G, B lol

[@greggotheeggo2354]

Cheap kids?????

[@Mico605]

I can't believe they still make those clear fans. I literally had the same fan on the PC i bought back in 2005 😂 They even use MOLEX connectors

[@fynkozari9271]

Yeah even Thermaltake riing trio uses molex, weird but the fans are really pretty.

[@tyguy101a]

The screwdriver might be included to get a different tariff code

[@sportsfamily77]

David's the real MVP for moving to try to catch that motherboard. Some people would have stood there and filmed the disaster as it unfolded.

[@lenaaasss]

16:16 Kuroutoshikou (玄人志向 in Japanese) is a pc parts brand that is popular with pc builders in Japan. Kurouto (玄人): Expert, professional

[@LordMarcus]

8:50 That case is the same OEM style Lenovo used for some of its cheap workstations about a decade ago. I can't remember if it had a model number or any non-Lenovo markings, and right now it's just parked behind my TV being a thoroughly inadequate media PC. Though, the half-height GTX 750 I found made a world of difference. I don't remember which AMD APU it came with, either - some hexacore non-standard woefully underpowered thing.

[@CMDRSweeper]

I wish more cases had 5.25 inch or as you call it "Optical bays" in them. Not to fit CD drives, but it is very useful for those hotswap harddrive bays that servers have, pop one in and you have easy access. Much better usecase than fondling around inside the case for it.

[@abadenoughdude300]

Reminds me of those hard drive trays that were a thing back in the 90's. Completely forgot about that gimmick lol.

[@tOSdude]

I just like having optical drives

[@loading6558]

Surprisingly enough, the new fractal design pop air case comes with 2 hidden 5.25 inch bays at the base of the case. Its nice to see that some companies still see the utility in being able to use original dvds with game emulators and reading old movie disks.

[@filonin2]

@@tOSdude Like, as a cup holder? Can't imagine what else you'd use one for.

[@tOSdude]

@@filonin2 I got some older stuff I sometimes need to burn discs for. Also audio CDs.

[@fingergunaddict]

the ground fork on the psu cable screws into the receptacle cover mounting screw, which is usually grounded. i guess its a thing in japan??? i dont think its up to code in the US anymore .

[@mikeloeven]

11:35 That's actually pretty interesting. When I was growing up we lived in an old colonial era house with outdated wiring. Like when I was a kid there were still a few cloth wrapped wires in the basement thankfully those were since replaced. But to this day a lot of the outlets are still 2 pin with the ground being the central screw that holds in the face plate of the outlet. This looks a lot like the 2 - 3 pin adapters we had all over the place that needed to be screwed into the outlet box

[@captianmorgan7627]

I've also seen that weird plug in the US. It was somewhat common until the late 80s. You could use it to get a grounded connection even with the older 2-prong outlets.

[@jackalovski1]

That janky grounding pin is something I have seen a lot of on Japanese industrial equipment. Commercial sockets don’t have a ground pin but industrial applications have it as a requirement so the have grounding screws

[@ChibbyTibblers]

I love how he always says he "buys" this stuff, as if it is him that made it happen and not the labor of his bagillions of employees.

[@krix-alexstrasza2526]

lol i wonder if that CPU cooler had both a 120mm version and 92mm version and they just grabbed whichever box was in the best shape lol. i think i need to upgrade to some of that DERAM though that stuff sounds like its 30 years in the future! lol this was super fun to watch! and i love watching you guys mess around with obscure parts.

[@RyanRBlack]

It looked to me like they measured the entire thing rather than just the fan. That would technically still make it a 120mm fan. Sneaky.

[@noahw4623]

Honestly, sending the screws and screwdriver is pretty nice, they know you're working on a PC and might need one

[@Owenzzz777]

How did Linus not talk about LTT screwdrivers even once when he used that screwdriver to install the cooler, and when the cheap tiny one that came with RAM broke in half??? I was yelling inside LTT screwdriver!!!

[@gamingwookie4248]

11:20 not that it’s acceptable, but the ground wire could be meant for outlets that don’t have a ground pin hole. In this case you could take advantage of the grounded screw on the outlet cover

[@siuming124]

That power cord is from Japan standard. And the box of it is Japanese not Chinese. Also the graphic card is from Japan branded.

[@Liquidmetal14]

I love how he turns the CPU cooler and it makes the sound a 90-year-old door would make and that instills quite a bit of confidence in the young whimpersnapper.

[@penfold7800]

it didnt help much that the fans he installed were only held on with twisty cable ties. Zip ties would have worked better. I used them once to install an 8cm fan to keep the ram cool on a very ancient compaq desktop pc i was pushing to its limits. It worked suprisingly well for a mcguyver.

[@vclyxy7400]

that was not the cpu cooler tho im prety sure that was the optical drive cause if you move it while its spinning with a disc it can scratch it

[@nlatimer]

I physically cringed when I heard that sound

[@Neoxon619]

I was actually expecting a Galaxy Z Fold/Flip video, but I’m down for another Wish PC build. If nothing else, it’s a sign that GPUs aren’t in shortage anymore (plus the previous Wish PC build was a super-profitable video).

[@LegionRRTX]

he will most likely do a shortcircuit about them and nothing more, and the watches its probably jake since he has the previous ones or hopefully its sara butt.

[@Neoxon619]

@@LegionRRTX I’d imagine that Linus would want to upgrade his Z Fold 3, so that tracks.

[@LegionRRTX]

@@Neoxon619 of course he will, since the 3rd one's battery doesn't hold through the day, but that doesn't mean he will do a review, hell, even mkbhd isn't going to do one since the differences between the 3rd and 4th are not worth a video.

[@n00bxl71]

@@RisingRevengeance I'm ashamed to say that i was one of the people who bought a 1030 during the shortage. I have since moved on.

[@n00bxl71]

@@RisingRevengeance It was ironic because its a bad card and ppl don't like that. I also then got a prebuilt, which is another source of "shame"

[@rysterstech]

17:34 who noticed the Express in PCI Express 3.0 was spelled Expres. Definitely not actually a gigabyte motherboard

[@elecktr0freak]

18:30 - Linus trolling us when he plugs the SATA drive into the optical drive with a grin on his face. 😂

[@PlayerNone90]

I was looking for a comment about this.

[@fvdih]

This is a system after my own heart. I have an i5-4460, stock ass cooler, my rx 580 has 0.5 mm of clearance, and my gpu power cables are smushed so tight inside the case. I have hard drives and an ssd screwed into the mounting holes for a fan because my gpu took up my hard drive space. It’s gotten me through all of covid, so can’t complain too much

[@Wanooknox]

David is the absolute goat for catching that motherboard while also manhandling a huge camera rig! What a frickin boss!

[@MrGeneralScar]

11:29 saw a guy who purchased an MSI gaming laptop while in Japan (late 2022) and it came with the same type of power cable for its AC adapter. We had to replace the adapter under MSI international warranty already. Perhaps something that they do in Japan??

[@aanddone4747]

19:53 Oh that brings back so many headphone memories

[@Archmage1809]

Kuroutoshikou is a Japanese brand. They have collaborated with GALAX under the Galakuro brand name inside Japan. Their GPUs are probably GALAX rebranded. In fact, the GT1030 you guys got is actually a rebranded GALAX GT 1030 EXOC WHITE. Kuroutoshikou also has PSU and they are decent. Most of them (pre-2020, I don't know anything beyond that point) are made by ATNG and Seasonic (yes, Seasonic) some higher tier might be OEM by Superflower and even Seasonic. I personally have one made by Seasonic using GB Bronze platform (which is old, but might consider them a legendary budget platform). Not a weird thing but the PSU has 90-130V voltage limit label, but it works well on 220-230V environment due to Active PFC that have full range support instead of short-range like 90-130V.

[@HezJP]

11:43 I see plugs like this in Japan but nobody ever uses the ground unless it's for a washing machine or a microwave. Usually they're attached on big appliances that operate near water

[@JadonLolley]

13:33 yep. Even though you’re a seasoned expert, it’s glad to see that the common trial of trying to screw something into the case, only to finish installing and then see that the panel was removable is a rite of passage for a new builder. And seeing Linus encounter it makes me chuckle

[@jakestocker4854]

You guys should try to build the highest end PC you can from Wish to see how much you'd overpay. Seems like prices have came down on the lowend, I'm sure they're still insane on the high-end.

[@olimpather]

12:37 David: **Catches the computer** Also David: **Filming a plant**

[@hidazip]

11:32 That’s one of the standards in Japan. Many outlets here have a ground pin mount under the outlets where you can screw those loose ground wires onto. Of course we do also have the 3 pin connectors, but not on everything.

[@10th_Doctor]

Used to be common here in the US as well for the center screw that holds the faceplate on to be grounded. Not sure if that's the case anymore.

[@jonny6702]

@@10th_Doctor It can be, but not always. Before the standard was metal outlet boxes but now blue plastic ones have become standard. The old metal boxes were always grounded (assuming the installation was up to code). The center screw can still be grounded though, depending on the outlet design. Some outlets connect the ground to the screws, but some don't have that metal tab to connect them. These days, the answer is a solid "maybe" as to whether or not the screws of an outlet/faceplate are truly grounded. I'd recommend always testing them with a multimeter before assuming that it does have a ground connection.

[@ganr1277]

I had a washing machine with that ground wire connection, but with the US Standard two-pin connection. I'm from México

[@10th_Doctor]

@@jonny6702 That's why I stated "Used to be common". 5 years ago I bought and old 1930s Sears Craftsman bungalow which I had fully remodeled. Still had the old, disconnected and knob wiring inside the walls along with a mix of newer wiring and old cloth insulated wiring. Was going to replace it all anyway and I did pay extra to have the conduit style and metal boxes installed with proper outlets. This is the last home I will ever own so I wanted it to be done just right.

[@7JLindo]

Anyone notice at 18:18 Linus plugs the black sata cable into the SSD, then plugs the other end of it into the optical drive? But when they cut away, the sata cable positions are corrected. Ya ain't slick, Linus!

[@elderwitch8632]

How much Derams do we have in here ? : We have four rams

[@ChrisAegrim]

Honestly, I'm kinda digging the case. Sure, I wouldn't exactly call the price amazing, but it doesn't look too bad and an optical drive bay is something I really miss at times.

[@soccera3072]

Fractal Pop Air?

[@Henrik13104]

Wieder einer von den Spacefrogs

[@kamild_]

Yeah but it also cooks the SSD and the power supply...

[@DeerJerky]

I'd say the fractal pop air would be your go to choice then, it has an optical bay or two iirc

[@kg4wwn]

I also like the case, not $100 worth, but I like it. If it were in the $50 range I could see myself purchasing it over the other $50 range cases.

[@illeniumtrilogyclips4034]

Lol, when I saw the price for the case my first thought was "wow the Corsair 4000D airflow I got was cheaper than that" and then Linus immediately follows it up with this 9:54 🤣

[@earthwormjim]

The mouse seems to stop tracking as soon as you lift it, and takes a second to start tracking once put back onto a surface. I remember the Logitech MX1000 mouse had that problem. Possibly a safety issue for laser mice, to prevent users from shining lasers into their eyes?

[@da_pawz]

yup I rem some old oem/non-branded mouse had those problem lol

[@thhardglump1723]

IT'S NOT HIMMM. IT'S NOT LINUS. YOU NEED TO ESCAPED

[@IbocC64]

Pretty sure you are supposed to ground that to the mounting screw for the faceplate of your outlet. I have seen connections like that on some of my dads old power tools from the 70's and early 80s, like his drill press and table saw.

[@Hiraghm]

back in the day in the US, many electrical sockets only had two slots. To plug a grounded cable into them, you would get a 3-to-2 adapter that had a little wire hanging out that was mean to be inserted under the screw holding the faceplate to the wall.

[@Dukenukem]

the "move" that Linus is performing at 6:40 is known in my IT cyrcles as "gently brutalizing" the cooler (and CPU+MB for that matter)

[@penfold7800]

it takes experience to achieve it without bending the motherboard in the process though. Definately something to do BEFORE installing the board in the case.

[@MrSlowestD16]

lol, I call it building with "self clearancing parts."

[@djs82a29]

I've actually seen that weird ground in the middle east. Sometimes all three wires were just bare, and they would just jam them in the wall plugs of totally different standards, and hope for the best. I'm not kidding. They really do that in some places.

[@gene7511]

I think you're meant to attach the bare wires to an appropriate plug or wire them directly to a circuit. I usually see bare wires on high-power stuff (e.g., shower heaters, AC) and from where I'm at, they usually get a dedicated circuit and/or differently-shaped "high power" sockets.

[@Taorakis]

Ok 18:21, am i the only one seeing the SATA Cable from the SSD being plugged into the DVD Drive?

[@gabrielcolombelli993]

Linus: "This cooler design is at least 15 years old" Intel: *Heavy breathing intensifies*

[@haranshdeepsingh8560]

21:23 Ah yes, the mixer grinder type beat by wish pc ft. linus.

[@loveableterror674]

Hey! The 4670k is a beast when overclocked, and is still kicking around in my old system at a friend's house

[@PaintsAreOp]

Not sure if it's a beast, but it sure does run whatever games you hit it with very well!

[@thelegalsystem]

Hey I'm still using a 4790k, its a bit more powerful but if it's still kicking just fine!

[@EBLovesMusic]

I still have a computer with an 2500k. Ok for old games for my kids and as a media server.

[@lnfinyx]

@@EBLovesMusic i still use my pc with a 2300! Lol!

[@rodrigonoctis]

I run at @4.4GHz and it's a beast for me, paired with 16gb @2100Mhz and GTX 1660 6gb TUF. Photographer and videomaker work, sometimes SketchUp and Vray. Still running most of games at Ultra 2k or Rocket league Max at 4k 120 fps.

[@mrbuilder0834]

I found one of these motherboards on the side walk

[@yjk_ch]

16:00 It's technically not false advertising, if they just said "4pin" lol

[@Viniter]

12:34 Wrong call, Dave. What you do in this situation is you pan down.

[@T2roxT2]

20:40 "you don't need a screwdriver to install a cable" literally 5 seconds after using a screwdriver to install a cable

[@goefffrey8619]

the worst part was the peripherals

[@frodddd]

I agree

[@HenrikMakesGames]

They are remaking old video concepts and i love it!

[@fucknugget5004]

He said in wan show this video was the most profitable video they’ve made, thats the only reason they’re redoing it

[@HenrikMakesGames]

Yeah.Nice username btw

[@OleJanssen]

The sad thing about all of this is that with this budget, you could just as well get a used office PC and some upgrades, which would be just so much better in almost every way possible.

[@potatoes5829]

@Сусанна Сергеевна many of the older full towers are fully upgradeable. Two of my friends have old dell inspiron matx towers that are fully upgradeable (psu and everything). Both have i7 4770. My pc is currently in an office pc case (although it is quite old, originally had an athlon x2 245)

[@jakejakedowntwo6613]

yea it would be better in every way, though they're also old so they will die in some time. I had an Optiplex slimline for about 4 years until the motherboard died. It was a standard MicroATX board, though I couldn't fit a new motherboard in since there was some interference with the chassis, the standoffs were just some bumps, so components would get crushed if put in.

[@jakejakedowntwo6613]

@Сусанна Сергеевна I had an optiplex slimline intel 3 gen, so I know that mine had 2 pcie slots, 3 sata ports, 1 used by the dvd drive. you just have to find the right one.

[@vgamesx1]

Indeed, but you're forgetting that OEMs, especially Dell or HP like to use non-standardized parts, which sometimes even extends to the PSU so... Unless you're into hacking together something to make it work, there is a fair possibility you won't be able to simply drop in a new PSU in order to add a new 2060 or whatever to your office PC. Basically, I'm not saying to not do that, but if you have any plans on upgrading it, you should really take a look at it in person before buying an office PC, your best bet is actually just finding someone's old gaming PC, you might find something similar to Linus' wish PC for as little as $100 and can easily upgrade it later.

[@thysonsacclaim]

That kind of ground was used on very old houses that only had double prong and needed ground added later. It is often hooked to a screw on the outlet. If you've ever seen those 2 prong to 3 prong adapters, they have a little metal tab which you are supposed to screw to the screw in the outlet.

[@iPhone3GS_68]

12:44 that’s just a dell gx520 case with non proprietary mounts and a different front plate I promise you considering I’ve worked with a ton of em…that design is almost identical

[@WyattWP]

13:14 “POTFG” had me howling

[@DutchPigeon]

The disk drive size bays in the front of older cases can actually come in pretty handy when you wanna adapt an older case to a more modern demand, for example i have a Corsair Carbide 540 air, which doesn't have USB on the front panel, and i was able to put a little panel with multiple ports, including 2 usb C's there for use with my VR headset :D

[@joshuahadams]

I picked up a cheapo 3.5” bay IO panel that plugs into a USB2 on the motherboard. It’s got slots for M2, x-Picture, full size SD/MMC, micro SDXC, compact flash cards, USB, and MS Pro Duo. It’s worth it just for the SD slots when I’m messing around with Wii homebrew and Raspberry Pi things.

[@EntropyGuardian]

My PC still has a br/hddvd drive in it. I'm looking at upgrading the case and motherboard and CPU and I guess optical drives just aren't in fashion anymore

[@FiveMissiles]

fellow 540 air owner!!

[@Jagered]

Would’ve loved to see what you could build off wish during scalp season 1-2 years ago

[@ojeantas5180]

that grounding cable goes in the center screw of the outlets. some of the older sockets has a grounding connection to the center screw holding the plate to the wall.