"THIS WON'T HELP!" 😕 Darragh MacAnthony DEMANDS more SUPPORT for Ivan Toney 🔥

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Peterborough owner Darragh MacAnthony criticises the decision suspend Ivan Toney from all football related activity during his 8 month ban.
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@bantamNeil12
@bantamNeil12 Жыл бұрын
Always liked Darragh...refreshingly honest and says it like it is...Really good Owner imo...the game needs more owners like him...👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@danmitchell1955
@danmitchell1955 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve always liked him for what he done for Peterborough. And Toney should be getting help not banned . He did not physically benefit from any illegal activity by costing his team victory etc not that fa has proven .
@geoffreystines3112
@geoffreystines3112 Жыл бұрын
Darragh is brilliant, a great foil for Simon. Bring him on more!
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f Жыл бұрын
Brilliant at talking left wing BS.?
@waleswales9690
@waleswales9690 Жыл бұрын
100%
@vjaska
@vjaska Жыл бұрын
Darragh is a breath of fresh air, great listening to him
@Bambo699
@Bambo699 Жыл бұрын
He will be getting help. A lot more than normal people. The ban is supposed to punish and to deter others.
@krankieboolean1340
@krankieboolean1340 Жыл бұрын
In the past when the monarchy held real power in the UK punishment often resulted in decapitation and heads mounted on spikes as a warning to others.
@Bambo699
@Bambo699 Жыл бұрын
@@ClintSpinster I never knew that. That’s pretty much as bad as it gets.
@FalkieZone
@FalkieZone Жыл бұрын
@@ClintSpinster That's a lie mate, maybe read articles in full, not just headlines.
@FalkieZone
@FalkieZone Жыл бұрын
@@Bambo699 Well it's not true.
@mattcasey1774
@mattcasey1774 Жыл бұрын
@@ClintSpinster no, he didn’t. 😂He backed against Newcastle when on loan at Wigan but don’t let facts get in the way of your story.
@jbwalker8559
@jbwalker8559 Жыл бұрын
Don't think Simon likes been shot down
@the0nlytrueprophet942
@the0nlytrueprophet942 Жыл бұрын
You have to have darragh on again. He was great
@oscargrainger3258
@oscargrainger3258 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we just hold people to be accountable for their actions? Football can't fix everything, everytime there is a major controversy everyone cries "its up to football to do more". There are punishments in place to deter players from gambling, Toney got caught, he's serving his 8 months and that should be it.
@matthewmedley1203
@matthewmedley1203 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Agree 100per cent.
@kylewilliams3446
@kylewilliams3446 Жыл бұрын
Exactly his choice to do it, should be his choice to stop and get help if needed.
@kylewilliams3446
@kylewilliams3446 Жыл бұрын
He’s on enough money use that to get help rather than throwing it all away whilst breaking rules
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford Жыл бұрын
@@kylewilliams3446so it’s an alcoholics voice to stop? Honestly the ignorance to this addiction is astonishing
@epursimuove1633
@epursimuove1633 Жыл бұрын
Bans supposed to be an example for others to deter behavior. Should have been tougher and deserves no sympathy
@Jambalayaorb
@Jambalayaorb Жыл бұрын
But that’s not enough deterrent for people with an addiction so it will continue to happen therefore your plan won’t work. Addiction removes all deterrents and rules.
@andrewroberts4736
@andrewroberts4736 Жыл бұрын
I really like Darragh. He has an interesting view and expresses it really well. Be brilliant if he was a regular. He would make Martin Keown cry.😁
@ec3032
@ec3032 Жыл бұрын
Great segment. The nuance and and mental Darraugh brought was immense. The rehabilitation aspect and focus on that if he has a true way you can help fix an addiction
@roddymackellar5481
@roddymackellar5481 Жыл бұрын
for 232 charges to which Ivan admitted being guilty to is 8 months enough?
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f Жыл бұрын
A white player would be minimum 10 months.
@anderswillestofte9376
@anderswillestofte9376 Жыл бұрын
Trippier gote 10 weeks for 4 case, nobody cry over it Barton gote 18 months for whas 1200 some thing, Toney get 8 months ther half is off season, and all cry dobelt moral, special compar to how all say fair whit Barton, just becuse media love Toney ther think he ned get of easy, so stupid and dobelt standare, he should has gote a last 1 year, and all the ban should lay time fram of season, not in off season, all other who break law also get punish, he lucky get of so easy.
@robertdennehy7948
@robertdennehy7948 Жыл бұрын
First time hearing Daragh on talksport i thought most of his points were spot on, a well needed refresh than hearing Martin Keown speak about the will, the fight, the belief, Saka😂😂
@nolo_the2nd
@nolo_the2nd Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@amy_17_
@amy_17_ Жыл бұрын
Why is the narrative that he's a "gambling addict"? If he had a real problem, he could bet on everything but football. Not everyone who does something wrong is a victim
@glennseaward3050
@glennseaward3050 Жыл бұрын
I agree Amy, too much time ,too much money no addiction
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f Жыл бұрын
Because he's not white. They have a free pass from consequences of criminality.
@jackhewitt600
@jackhewitt600 Жыл бұрын
This is about actions having consequences. You cant break the rules , be punished and then play the mental health card to try and escape. He knew the rules and should face the punishment i hope he comes back next year and carries on playing especially for england.
@scottking869
@scottking869 Жыл бұрын
Thats how addiction works tho 😂 he knows what hes doing but he cant stop just like when people gamble using there homes trying to win the big one but never get it
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 Жыл бұрын
@@scottking869 that is just utter crap. Not all alcoholics turn up to work drunk or drink drive. It's about personal responsibility. He had hundreds of avenues to gamble he was only not allowed to bet on football. He could have asked for help. He could have banned himself through SAFE. Zero accountability
@whoami1654
@whoami1654 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever suffered from addiction. You will know that the first thing about addiction is that you are absolutely powerless over it as much as he may want to stop he can't on his own will.
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 Жыл бұрын
@@whoami1654 load of shite. He broke the rules. Stop giving him a pass. He was literally betting on games involving his own clubs ffs
@abyss7049
@abyss7049 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidwebster5946 Clear that you have no understanding or awareness of addiction or mental well-being in general when you come out with a pile of absolute tosh like that. Absolute muppet!
@russellbridges9779
@russellbridges9779 Жыл бұрын
ive got ten pounds that says ivon tony has been treated ok 😂
@adebowaleademola-thomas3776
@adebowaleademola-thomas3776 Жыл бұрын
Ivan Toney isn't the first English player to be banned for betting. I believe a certain Daniel Sturridge was also banned for 4 months for betting through his brother on him being transferred.
@RitchieCollins
@RitchieCollins Жыл бұрын
Football leagues should BAN all connections with gambling completely.
@paulpurves484
@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын
Darragh more than a match for Simon but matterface is woeful.!!
@themog4911
@themog4911 Жыл бұрын
How many times have we seen this from footballers? They only call it an "addiction" when they get caught out. Sob story to gloss over the blatent disregard for betting rules.
@jkjkISHIM
@jkjkISHIM Жыл бұрын
He bet on a game boo fucking hoo😢
@satianable
@satianable Жыл бұрын
Agree bud
@petegonad
@petegonad Жыл бұрын
Exactly, he didn’t have to bet on games he had inside information on from his parent club
@nancyharless5331
@nancyharless5331 Жыл бұрын
This was a good conversation!
@itchyballsack6627
@itchyballsack6627 Жыл бұрын
I bet you Ivan aint worried a god damn bit. 8 months off on 1000's a week. Oh how my heart bleeds...
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford Жыл бұрын
Honestly the ignorance to this addiction is astonishing. Toooolllll
@sambog2635
@sambog2635 Жыл бұрын
no ban isnt too long and hasnt been hard done by 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ how many offences? and against own team! and he gets an 8 month paid holiday for it!!!!
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Жыл бұрын
MacAnthony is bombastic as always. Me me me. Didn’t realise he owned Inter Milan. But he’s right about Ivan Toney !,,
@jimwilson-kl2xs
@jimwilson-kl2xs Жыл бұрын
This the British penal system at work, punishment first, rehabilitation, what's that? SJ confirms this, "going to jail is all about punishment", pathetic.
@killy6729
@killy6729 Жыл бұрын
It’s meant to be a punishment. Betting on his own team. His team can support him.
@cormacomalley4422
@cormacomalley4422 Жыл бұрын
Can I say this is a great pairing - I'm sorry that I'm not overly familiar with Sam and Simons colleague today - but he definitely adds am interesting curb with Simon (just caught this video, I'm sure he is explained and this was a bit ignorant I do apologise in advance)
@alexgardiner6488
@alexgardiner6488 Жыл бұрын
To reply to Simon's comment...If we send people to prison just for punishment and without rehabilitation in mind, then surely they will reoffend as soon as they are out of prison?! Seems to be very old school thinking from Simon here...
@Baldrick_dogsbody
@Baldrick_dogsbody Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the rehabilitation of magnum TA. LOL
@Mr.BednaR
@Mr.BednaR Жыл бұрын
Yeah... if the gambling addiction is real and not a play to get a lower penalty 🤷‍♂️
@MarcoSpeaksNadsat
@MarcoSpeaksNadsat Жыл бұрын
People think twice if there are severe consequences. There is a reason stealing, crime, violence and antisocial behaviour is spiralling out of control. And it's Jack to do with 'rehabilitation'. Criminals know they can get away with things, and if they are caught the sentence is lenient. Why is there hardly any crime in places like Saudi Arabia. Rehabilitation?
@andimcgaw
@andimcgaw Жыл бұрын
Speaks the idiot who know nothing. Death sentence is applied in America and crime hasn't diminished. America has the largest prison pop. Highest murder rate etc.
@paulcousins6594
@paulcousins6594 Жыл бұрын
Harshly treated WTF DO there's footballer's want .
@AM2K2
@AM2K2 Жыл бұрын
What a great guest - have him on some more
@petegonad
@petegonad Жыл бұрын
He was betting on games for which he had inside information from the dressing room of his parent club. If you’re an addict you can bet on anything you want, 24 hours a day through your phone.
@danpalmer9600
@danpalmer9600 Жыл бұрын
He needs to be supported I had an addiction and support of my family was the only reason I got over it
@ianowen3157
@ianowen3157 Жыл бұрын
How many footballers have been caught betting and breaking the rules. He deserves the ban.
@user-dk6jb6hq9t
@user-dk6jb6hq9t Жыл бұрын
Don't get this at all. When Mitrovic was sent over for grabbing the ref I never heard anyone say the FA should give him a one match ban and rehabilitation or if a player gets done for racism I never hear anyone say no ban but offer rehabilitation
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f Жыл бұрын
Black privilege
@balathwell
@balathwell Жыл бұрын
Top fella Darragh
@xolisaket8682
@xolisaket8682 Жыл бұрын
simon argues to be right all de he doesn't wanna be wrong
@darrenredden3289
@darrenredden3289 Жыл бұрын
Why not let Toney continue to play from August, but keep 75% of his salary every week for 1/2 the season. Donate to the homeless and hit him in the wallet.
@peternicholls50
@peternicholls50 Жыл бұрын
Thank God we have Simon to spell it out to the Public Who simply do not have the Knowledge to undserstand just how complicit the Players and Club owners are enmeshed in the Betting Industry , Here we have a hard-nosed owner trying to Justify Ivan Toneys shocking lack of awareness to placate an industry that has far too many strings to pull in Football !!!!!!!!!!
@philthornton1382
@philthornton1382 Жыл бұрын
Toneys ban isn’t enough, should be 2 years minimum
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Жыл бұрын
🤡
@joebramley3309
@joebramley3309 Жыл бұрын
Macanthony should be a regular, better than half the clowns on this station
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious Жыл бұрын
It's not Mourinho's fault that Roma fans acted like thugs, and it's not betting advertisements that made Toney put a load of bets on. Stop blaming others and stop babying full grown adults.
@caribbean_racer_rr3
@caribbean_racer_rr3 Жыл бұрын
There is a solid argument that by Mouriño's actions, he did. Much like the symbiosis between Trump's actions and the Qultist's actions.
@TheWallethead
@TheWallethead Жыл бұрын
It’s also not the cigarette manufacturers fault that they make a dangerous product because we all have free will to not buy cigarettes. Thankfully as a society we’re a bit more evolved and understand that humans are not a monolith and society has to step in Sometimes so we don’t devolve.
@GamingInTheFASTLANE
@GamingInTheFASTLANE Жыл бұрын
What a joke excuses excuses. He did it for the money. If he was a gambling addict could bet on anything, but come on, bet on his own team is losing ......... May as well do away prisons if this guy is in charge. Sat there saying full of corruption and he knows about it but doing nothing about it
@Detroiy2k
@Detroiy2k Жыл бұрын
With his amount of money he can help him self n do afew course or whatever, ffs I work in a hostel ,can some of these crack eads n drinks get some help smfh..shows how removed these ppl are from ordinary life
@TKGriffiths
@TKGriffiths Жыл бұрын
How is kicking a football around on the training ground supposed to treat this supposed gambling addiction? The 'he shouldn't be banned from training because muh rehabilitation' argument is nonsense. Take your medicine Toney.
@callummcdonald2885
@callummcdonald2885 Жыл бұрын
sorry, how did Ivan 'compromise' the integrity of the game?? He bet on results he had no control over. oh wait, except for backing himself to score goals. The man has a problem and desperately needs help, and broke completely hypocritical (therefore completely void) rules in the game. The situation just shows how sad and hopeless the world of the beautiful game is.
@petegonad
@petegonad Жыл бұрын
He bet on his parent club to lose games. He had info on injuries, confidence, tactics from the dressing room.
@callummcdonald2885
@callummcdonald2885 Жыл бұрын
@@petegonad i really doubt those were factors in the bets for the bet concerning Wigan/ aston Villa (given the pattern of behavior, it seems he just resented the fact he wasn't getting a chance to play). The other 11 bets concerned newcastle (his parent club) where he was not a part of the dressing room. Therefore he had no 'insider info' concerning the games, he was betting out of anger- not 'insider' intelligence.
@petegonad
@petegonad Жыл бұрын
You don’t honestly believe he wasn’t in touch with other players who were in the dressing room?! Come on mate. That’s why he was choosing those games for a flutter.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Sir Darragh = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@JRW1886
@JRW1886 Жыл бұрын
I always thought Darragh was a complete tool and loved the sound of his voice to much….this actually made me change my mind about him in a positive way.
@balathwell
@balathwell Жыл бұрын
Darragh is the modern Simon Jordan lol
@markwheeler1461
@markwheeler1461 Жыл бұрын
That’s a book I want to read
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 Жыл бұрын
He used the magic words. "Mental health". It's a load of shite. If he is a gambling addict he had hundreds of avenues to feed the addiction. Literally the only thing he wasn't allowed to bet on was football. Just because he is a gambling addict doesn't mean he didn't have any control.
@grantmcphee5149
@grantmcphee5149 Жыл бұрын
Auckland x people do the wrong thing not because they can't control themselves but because they consider the game to outweigh the benefit. This is not an addiction. Stop making out that he's the victims. Give him a lengthy ban and make it so he can't be paid by his club during this time.
@johnwalsh1990
@johnwalsh1990 Жыл бұрын
He bet against his own team,he deserves his punishment.
@yttommy76
@yttommy76 Жыл бұрын
If it’s all about rehabilitation what would be the deterrent - utter tosh - no personal responsibility. Hes not been sent to Antarctica for god sake.
@matthewquinney1628
@matthewquinney1628 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Simon Jordan, no excuses for bad decisions made by footballers. Punishment first rehabilitation comes mid sentence.
@alanf3611
@alanf3611 Жыл бұрын
At what point did the addiction materialise? Before earning numerous thousands a week? Or when it was made public?
@ianowen3157
@ianowen3157 Жыл бұрын
If you are a alcoholic,, you then drive a car. Get caught by the Police. Banned, fined and potentially jailed. Oh yeah, but I've got an addiction. OK Sir, banned over turned, fine repaid, out of jail you go. Come on.
@peppercrybeatz
@peppercrybeatz Жыл бұрын
Society is too soft he has brought the integrity of the game into disrepute
@kayk9895
@kayk9895 Жыл бұрын
You don't bet on your own club...
@mindsai7
@mindsai7 Жыл бұрын
I still haven't heard: did Toney ever bet against his own team for matches in which he played? This may not matter to the FA but is the only thing that matters to me.
@amy_17_
@amy_17_ Жыл бұрын
13 times!! He bet on them to lose as well
@mattcasey1774
@mattcasey1774 Жыл бұрын
He was Wigan on loan and put Newcastle to lose in accas, not good but not like others are saying.
@davidoakes9289
@davidoakes9289 Жыл бұрын
Where is the empathy.
@MegaBestoffer
@MegaBestoffer Жыл бұрын
It's about determent. Send a message. Simon was objective. The other guy was being emotional
@johncambridge7339
@johncambridge7339 Жыл бұрын
The fact is he bettin on games involving his own teammates end of
@gowokeyoubecomebroke.4747
@gowokeyoubecomebroke.4747 Жыл бұрын
Tenner says nothing will happen.
@themadmoderator8465
@themadmoderator8465 Жыл бұрын
so what happens when the rest us normals people get sacked.
@johnjames4681
@johnjames4681 Жыл бұрын
English football is soft on gambling. It will end in tears. Without a guarantee of the games being genuine the English game will collapse. Someone should be made an example of. Toney did not make a mistake he made 100s of mistakes.
@Giovanniditessitore
@Giovanniditessitore Жыл бұрын
The game enables addiction Toney needs help not to become a pariah imo
@WinksyTree
@WinksyTree Жыл бұрын
Would be a nightmare talking to Simon, cuts you off one sentence in
@kooler8586
@kooler8586 Жыл бұрын
Why should he be treated with kid glove send the man to jail he broke the law give him a custodial sentence I not do it again will he?
@garytaf
@garytaf Жыл бұрын
Infants running football, nothing to stop anyone giving his buddy money to go and put a bet on for him ,
@nicholasbeech932
@nicholasbeech932 Жыл бұрын
It’s a good job he’s around now years ago it was a prison sentence
@gerardoconnor8462
@gerardoconnor8462 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love ❤️ DMac giving it straight
@RichardMason-gj9ue
@RichardMason-gj9ue Жыл бұрын
Well if they’ve banned him for months and months what do they think he’s going to do on a Saturday afternoon in the house maybe go on his phone blasting the ladbrokes app
@tsrgoinc
@tsrgoinc Жыл бұрын
In the real world, you impugn the integrity of the company you work for, accidentally or not and you are for the high jump and more likely to never work in the field again. Toney, has brought into question the integrity of everyone in football he has come into contact with. Yep, get him help for his addiction, don’t abandon the person but I’d abandon the player and I’d make the ban life time, that would send a message.
@stumoo4049
@stumoo4049 Жыл бұрын
Even criminals get a second chance. Toney should get a second chance.
@ricksanchez3218
@ricksanchez3218 Жыл бұрын
Laughable, millionaire footballer knowingly breaks rules regarding gambling on football matches and there are idiots out there trying to paint the victim narrative.
@NC-cz9xm
@NC-cz9xm Жыл бұрын
The moment weasel Matterface got slapped down…so good 😂
@plumeofsmoke2871
@plumeofsmoke2871 Жыл бұрын
Simon is going to keep saying 'concentrate minds' forever.
@niallmcgarry4950
@niallmcgarry4950 Жыл бұрын
Darragh, a great addition
@JamieLowe-xp1le
@JamieLowe-xp1le Жыл бұрын
He’s a grown men who if he wants help can get help and probably better help than the every day man… reality is anyone who has an addiction to anything can get help but ultimately it’s upto them to stop doing what there doing
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 Жыл бұрын
No, its about punishment and thats it.
@andrewwaine2394
@andrewwaine2394 Жыл бұрын
Ivan Toney and everyone around him can do whatever they want for the next 8 months it’s not like he’s been sent to a desert island. He will have family and friends for help how much more should everyone have to do for him.
@SuperRobius
@SuperRobius Жыл бұрын
Never heard so much nonsense in my life.
@Akinwalesegun
@Akinwalesegun Жыл бұрын
if an alcoholic shot this mofos child will he be saying all this about addiction?
@AkikazeYayoi
@AkikazeYayoi Жыл бұрын
Idk man might sound harsh but surely their paycheck should pretty much cover for any sort of help they need. If your literally making millions every other month you should be able to afford therapy, medication, or p much anything. It’s a high pressure job with lots of temptations, but you can’t say he has no help when he can afford anything he needs.
@xolisaket8682
@xolisaket8682 Жыл бұрын
its already been forgeten
@adamgrimsley2900
@adamgrimsley2900 Жыл бұрын
Support what about the 70k a week?
@user-df2cf9lf6n
@user-df2cf9lf6n Жыл бұрын
Simon doesn't understand addiction.
@warrenlovell8872
@warrenlovell8872 Жыл бұрын
Not harsh enough! Football has been ruined by betting its the evil underlying corruption we see week in week out. Football has gone for most fans these days.
@danneal6510
@danneal6510 Жыл бұрын
more pampering of multi millionaires what a joke
@thomascotter-o3b
@thomascotter-o3b Жыл бұрын
What about peter swan england and sheffield wedensday went to prison lost his world cup place to jack charlton and lost the 1966world cup and he wasnt earning 100000grand a week
@andythoms8130
@andythoms8130 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what hes going to do in his spare time for 8 months lol.
@MrKhunJen
@MrKhunJen Жыл бұрын
These two fellas on the right are grating....where are the normal people....I can't watch this
@travelswithted673
@travelswithted673 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Darren, addiction isn’t a crime but mental health and football clubs and the fa should be look to redeem the player and not treat them like a criminal.
@davidpurcell8189
@davidpurcell8189 Жыл бұрын
Ah here we go poor Ivan toney, he broke the rules ffs, should be banned for life he knew what he was doing and addiction don't make me laugh.
@michaeldixon5144
@michaeldixon5144 Жыл бұрын
NO EXCUSES BROKE RULES GIVEN LIGHT PUNISHMENT EVEN WORSE BET AGAINST OWN TEAM WHEN HAD A SAY WHO PLAYS AND STILL BEING PAID BREAK RULES IN OTHER JOBS UR SACKED BIG DIFFERENCE HERE SLAP ON WRIST
@mattcasey1774
@mattcasey1774 Жыл бұрын
Is this English? He didn’t bet against his own team sweetheart but you can’t read either as the report will tell you that.
@michaeldixon5144
@michaeldixon5144 Жыл бұрын
@@mattcasey1774 that's what being said if not ok but he still broke rules so have 2 face consequences
@mattcasey1774
@mattcasey1774 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldixon5144 of course but you said stuff that was wrong.
@michaeldixon5144
@michaeldixon5144 Жыл бұрын
@@mattcasey1774 sorry about wrong part gossip again misunderstanding some info
@michaeldixon5144
@michaeldixon5144 Жыл бұрын
ps not seen report yet I can read that's insulting
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@davidhunt3808
@davidhunt3808 Жыл бұрын
Yes too harsh ,yes he deserved some punishment but coupled with help with his addiction ! He has a problem that afflicts many whether its gambling or drugs its an addiction and needs treatment and help . Its an illness . Toney is an amazing talent when on the field it would be a tragedy if we were deprived of watching one of the best strikers in the Premier league .
@gerard394
@gerard394 Жыл бұрын
So why dose he not go into and pay for rehabilitation
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