THIS YOUTUBER SAID WHAT ABOUT TESTERS??? (Drama Reaction)

[@ultramegakingdom6798]

My take on this: This game’s pvp would be Much worse without the testing community, so we should be thankful that it exists. Vetex could’ve also chosen not to balance pvp and instead go straight to working on the story/other content updates since he doesn’t like to balance pvp, but he cares about the community and does it anyways, working hard with the balance team to ensure pvp is balanced. So what’s the problem? Definitely not the testers, but that Vetex is being pressured by some of the community to release content at a quicker pace, which leads to issues that wasn’t intended (such as warlord aoe being huge before the or weapons being faster usual before the hotfix). However, this could be mitigated if Vetex can hire devs for other parts of the game so more bug-free content can be released at a faster rate as well as balancing code to go more smoothly or finding memory leaks/performance issues. In my opinion, this is still one of the best games on Roblox with a lot of end game content other than pvp and with a rich story with deep lore. People complaining about balance changes show that they care about the game. Tl:dr - the issue isn’t with the balancing team, but rather the lack of devs and devs being pressured.

[@Ganggank9000]

Isn't balancing a game that got a pvp scene THE BARE MINIMUM??? You doing tricks on it dude

[@sapphoslastsong]

@@Ganggank9000 I doubt the game was made with the purpose of getting a pvp community. I'm pretty sure vetex just cares about telling the story he wants to tell through the game

[@alonso7599]

​@@Ganggank9000i dont think pvp is even the main thing in this game, i dont do pvp unless its with a friend if anything im more happy about the amount of details he put in his story it feels like a real RPG sometimes and other game mechanics like boats and other stuff

[@pneusur]

@@Ganggank9000if the game was a PvP game, it wouldn’t have the insanity V gel.

[@tresblo]

BraveLittleJimmy is like nintendo for the arcane odyssey fandom, he doesn't care about the rest and does whatever he likes

[@ooooriley3128]

Now Femsell needs to make an hour video of him reacting to this

[@Femsell]

40 hour video coming soon (there's nothing to say he explains everything fine)

[@fortheorder]

Femsell is garbage

[@buglerplayz7497]

BRAVELITTLEJIMMY MENTIONED

[@hexiller]

Thanks for spending your time to respond to these kinds of stuff, even though I dislike you personally for stuff like pinging everyone in the public balancing Discord, this was helpful for a regular player to get a perspective of how the testing works, so I am glad you made this video.

[@okita_souji_alter]

This video was literally just additional context for what fem was saying 😭. Glad i heard some of this on stream too

[@arceyplayz]

The update cycle as of right now is better than before for sure, dark sea took a really long time, even the nimbus sea update aswell. But yea I can see that we are somewhat getting monthly updates now which is great for the game, however, the problem is the stuff like balancing which is obviously boring for vetex and it takes time to do the number changes and all. I feel like he should be making a system where that can be offloaded to people he can trust to work on all the number changes in the game, so that he can work on new content instead of being stuck on older stuff. I just want vetex and everyone involved in AO to have a positive experience at all times without the buggy mess that usually happens during releases...

[@somerandomperson4586]

Development groups are supposed work like that. You should have more people to work on more separate aspects of a project. I get that vetex likes the game as a solo project, but arcane odyssey is way too big for one person to work on completely alone.

[@okita_souji_alter]

​@@somerandomperson4586and now i pose this question for the hundredth time....do you know what it cost to get a dev team? Im asking out of pure ignorance because anyone would assume someone would want to be compensated for being a dev whether it money or robux. You guys say "get a dev team bro" as if its something extremely easy to do.

[@somerandomperson4586]

@@okita_souji_alter if you really want to know, most developers get paid on commissions or sometimes contracts/percent profits based on the project. It’s not as easy to say it’s an hourly wage that can be calculated, but if you really want to know, the average is around a $107k salary or $411 per weekday (do take it with a grain of salt as development workdays is completely different from a general office job). Granted I don’t know how complex vetex’s systems are, but it wouldn’t hurt for him to teach it to other developers and negotiate the terms based on what he sees fits, at most he loses maybe some hours on talking but he can gain significant help if things like balancing take a week out of him.

[@somerandomperson4586]

@@okita_souji_alter if you really want to know, most developers get paid on commissions or sometimes contracts/percent profits based on the project. It’s not as easy to say it’s an hourly wage that can be calculated, but the average is around a $107k salary or $411 per weekday (do take it with a grain of salt as development workdays is completely different from a general office job). Granted I don’t know how complex vetex’s systems are, but it wouldn’t hurt for him to teach it to other developers and negotiate the terms based on what he sees fits, at most he loses maybe some hours on talking but he can gain significant help if things like balancing take a week out of him.

[@somerandomperson4586]

@@okita_souji_alter if you really want to know, most developers get paid on commissions or sometimes contracts/percent profits based on the project. It’s not as easy to say it’s an hourly wage that can be calculated, but the average is around a $107k salary or $411 per weekday (do take it with a grain of salt as development workdays is completely different from a general office job). Granted I don’t know how complex vetex’s systems are, but it wouldn’t be too bad for him to teach it to other developers and negotiate the terms based on what he sees fits, at most he loses maybe some hours on talking but he can gain significant help if things like balancing take a week out of him.

[@Femsell]

Im about to take a nap but got up to the part of storm of arrows so pretty much (the video was going to be about storm of arrows) then i realised it should be a discussions in general so The 50% damage buff to storm of arrows is just kind of absurd paired with the fact they storm and rain dont share cooldowns for some reason a tester thought itd be a good idea to make it (my warrior with about 74 power) currently hits six times with storm for 109 109* 1.5* 6 is 900+ i really dont want to do the math in my head rn but itd be doing over 900 damage alongside the initial change that the balance team came up with ( a size buff)

[@FalselyFactual]

Reaĺ

[@RienhartHiensenberg]

You still didn't explain why you said that out of the blue when you were talking about how it was gonna affect the empire update

[@tunja7162]

You can't hit all of the arrows on one person though, literally impossible even if the person tried running into all of the arrows on purpose, the radius is too large.

[@presonce]

storm of arrows is ass bro I tried it and you're better off using other skills 😭

[@Femsell]

One of the ones i called out (forgot username) but has last typed in the private discord in November and in vetcord in December

[@timelineencrypted1992]

I feel like what would help more is have 2 groups of bug fixers. Group 1 is focused on the bigger bugs that are very important to deal with and Group 2 is focused on smaller bugs that are pretty annoying but not too game breaking. Like for example the bug where you can merge with your ship in the dark sea joining the 2 UIs which can kill many runs.

[@justzacky2051]

i dont believe that would be good idea this will be twice more costing and the communication will get a lot worse

[@timelineencrypted1992]

@@justzacky2051 they are not getting payed. And if the work is split it would be easier since each group has less things to worry about. Group 1 deals with the big things which take more time and Group 2 takes the smaller things. Not only will that help deal with the backlog of bugs but it will also help lessen the burden on Group 1 and vetex himself which will expedite the clearing of the bugs so less people complain about the game

[@Zatu_TheBlueLion]

"who cares about talking in discord" is crazy bro But seriously the inactivity thing is kinda a problem but i hope y'all can improve stuff like optimization

[@Selectorch]

talking in discord isnt a good metric for ur activity

[@Zatu_TheBlueLion]

@@Selectorch well fu-

[@hexiller]

@@Selectorch I agree, and it's very annoying that for example in the Balancing public Discord you can only post suggestions after reaching a certain chat level.

[@Remadofoe]

​@@hexillersaid suggestions never get added to the game btw

[@hexiller]

@@Remadofoe yeah thats true lol, also hi Remadofoe i remember you

[@alvsolutely9710]

The only real problem I've had with Arcane Odyssey's development is that it's only one singular dev. Good, big ambitious games require multiple devs working on it, with the same power and development managment as Vetex. This guy right now has to do most of the writing, scripting, UI work, building, balancing, texturing.. It's too much work and being piled with all that is both mentally taxing and harmful to the game itself. At the very least, I think that Vetex should get someone on his team that handles the PvP side of things, given he stated his dissatisfaction with working on it.

[@kobe9063]

I agree, the game really needs more man power and I think Vetex’s idea of working alone just won’t work out in the end. I really hope that he doesn’t eventually get burnt out from doing this or the game’s community starts to fizzle out due to the lack of progress. This isn’t to say Vetex doesn’t work enough, there’s just a human limit that can’t be met with one person.

[@xtremev13]

Bro summoned all youtubers here.

[@-J0KER-]

40 minutes! Bro has a lot to say 🤔

[@Varkolyx]

the yap king

[@MadacInWonderland]

chasing the bag

[@archrono]

bro shoulda watched mine smh

[@Rayman_Axel]

👅

[@lamelime1]

smh my head fr

[@-J0KER-]

👅

[@jerryjia4324]

urs was good

[@violetviolentviolet]

holy shit marcille from dungeon meshi

[@PillesArcane]

🥶

[@lestef..929]

Danny yall need to start ignoring the haters man, most ppl that complain for pvp are type souls players

[@hemandhaid3422]

I just want the cluster to be more INDUSTRIALIZED GOD DANG IT VETEX! LET ME HAVE MY REVOLVERS, MY BREECH LOADING CANNONS AND SHELLS, PLEASE VETEX! ADD A KINGDOM IN ITS INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, PLEASE!

[@Caerot22]

oh the thumbnail 😭 finna watch the video in vr again

[@banaanq]

whos gooning rn 💔

[@Q_ari]

idc enough to watch this but the testers don't test simple as that, cannot be argued against and vetex needs to get that shit in order

[@arlyborgus]

its charity work, they arent obligated to test for free at all

[@AUSWQPCV]

vetex should actually start paying testers and just fire the ones who consistently report nothing of value and maybe establish a monthly rotation of testers

[@arlyborgus]

@@AUSWQPCV bold to assume they don't report anything when you can't see nor speak in tester chat

[@somerandomperson4586]

@@arlyborgusIt is still somewhat of an obligation to be a tester, if you are a tester. The developers trust you to help troubleshoot and find bugs or issues with the game. If you can’t live up to the role, you shouldn’t have it in the first place. It’s just the structure of testing for vetex’s game is not exactly built well.

[@arlyborgus]

@@somerandomperson4586 it is literally said BY VETEX in TESTER CHAT that there is zero obligation by the testers to test the game

[@Heros572]

I came from the tester apps, and I'm still here 😃

[@jerryjia4324]

Wait didn’t bro lose to an unfinished jugg on his light conj? 😬 This update was mid at best, how do you have testers and still let size and speed bugs through.

[@Remadofoe]

I really feel like vetex brought all of this upon himself If he doesnt wanna balance pvp,thats fine,i understand,cuz its a pain in the ass to do so without a proper team and on roblox BUT if he wants people to play his game for something other than pvp,perhaps he should consider adding OTHER endgame content that isnt strictly pvp,currently theres no fun endgame content that doesnt involve pvp He couldve also just made AO an entirely PVE based game if he managed to make it fun,but current pve is repetitive and boring,also its pretty much too late for that

[@Reppen555]

The reason nobody uses wood magic is because its impossible to make it look as good as hashirama senju does. if you made it look like that then I would of actually used wood magic.

[@Remadofoe]

the sheer number of people that would use certain magics if they didnt look horrible is ALOT more than they think

[@Emperiiium]

Fr though vetex needs a new script if he cant make chests save if you dc, part of the game is chest hunting and them not being able to save is a huge problem.

[@okita_souji_alter]

So you want him to revamp the entire games script (like 3+ years of work) for one change?😂

[@susanoo6962]

chests always save as soon i get them even if i alt f4. yours aren't saving probably because you got them during losing connection

[@Reppen555]

So Selectorch is just here for the long Ride just like Cayde 6 XD

[@Nickyonzaza]

selectorch, can you explain to us how your magnific team of testers allow shit like poison with over 300 size dealing 39 damage per proc?

[@warmwater9509]

Because that's totally balanced nicky!

[@Selectorch]

send the build

[@Nickyonzaza]

@@Selectorch how am i supposed to, i don't know what the man was rocking, all i could see is clouds of poison that covered whole buildings and the constant 39 damage being dealt to me

[@MonochromeAlex]

​​@@Nickyonzaza Ash & Poison clouds deal (Level/5)+1 damage At the current cap, it's 29 Damage per tick

[@RayaneJspVoila]

@@Nickyonzaza How do you want him to explain if you don't even have proof of that happening?

[@brady1027.]

Selectorch who wins in a 1v1? A healthy diet or CursedXNoob?

[@Selectorch]

healthy diet

[@MamaTrixxieAsmr]

femsell is just a clickbait doomposter for AO lol, dude yaps about what he thinks is going on while knowing next to nothing cause it gets him views lol

[@wer0t]

okay MamaTrixxieAsmr

[@Emperiiium]

Vetex done fumbled the bag 😂😂😂😂😂

[@oophfoophf]

THIS KZbinR SAID WHAT ABOUT TESTERS??? (Drama Reaction)

[@Ramosious]

deepwoken would never

[@Biggest_Mike24]

deepwoken isn't in early access, deepwoken isn't as large as this game, and deepwoken isn't free

[@itsphnix9151]

Also I was kinda excited for the game but now I just don’t play it the game depressing and hella boring too

[@loftierelf14]

Make a 2 hour video next holy fucking shit selectorch

[@Selectorch]

sure thing

[@loftierelf14]

@@Selectorch thanks

[@AO_lover]

Please make a video trashing Roblox's new event, its to vote on good Roblox games, but there is only like 5 games per category all were chosen by Roblox, the best game there is Deepwoken and I don’t even like it that much, that’s sad.

[@xanthiusdrake2775]

Priority bugs huh? then explain why the deckhand attacks bug with ship physics still exists.

[@okita_souji_alter]

Because thats listed as a minor bug?

[@RayaneJspVoila]

i am pretty sure that a priority bug would be more close to a data reset glitch than a ship physics glitch...

[@xanthiusdrake2775]

The two of you have probably never seen it, which is why you'd make the mistake of thinking it is a minor bug.

[@RayaneJspVoila]

And what does it do in particular that makes it a "priority"? It's basically an NPC attacking you, and weird ship mouvement

[@xanthiusdrake2775]

@@RayaneJspVoila There is a really rare bug that despite it's rarity, it still needs to be fixed as soon as it can, as the effects can screw over literally any player at any time. Any player who has gone into the game enough will know that when you sink an NPC ship, it's not just one and done, the crew will come out and start to attack you, they will also do this if you do not sink the ship properly and attack the ship yourself, and this accounts for all NPC ships, when ther it be pirates and asssassins, the merchant faction, the grand navy, Atlanteans, all NPC ships do this. However, Vetex must have made a mistake in coding ship crews, because there is a really rare bug where if your ship gets attacked and if a deckhand takes damage, they will actively start using attacks, magic, weapon arts, fighting techniques, you name it, if they have it in their kit, they will use it.HOWEVER, there is one major issue, since deckhands are literally glued to your ship, when they try to attack and move, they whole ship will move with them, this completely freaks out the games ship physics, and it is impossible to stop, even when the deckhands HP is at zero, the only way to stop it is to either leave the game, or find a shipwright and reload your ship. But there are two major issues with this, for one, leaving the game can really suck if you're in the middle of something, such as a dark sea run, ship hunting, a ship duel, or a story event, because you then lose all of the progress you just made. And finding a shipwright isn't easy either, since you will likely be to far away to reach one, and even if you tried to sail to the closest one, it will likely never work since the ship will be flipping around the entire way, most likely making you barely move at all or go in random directions. And like I said, this bug can take effect at any time when a deckhand takes damage from an enemy, and this bug has been in the game long before the deckhand overhaul, and I have had it happen after the overhaul as well. The only reason why it hasn't been fixed is because of it's rarity, and Vetex's hyper-fixation on PvP, pointlessly trying to make the toxic PvP players happy, wasting time not properly updating the game at a decent rate.

[@Reppen555]

40 minute video oh boi this is gonna be a long one

[@abyss5977]

people in stream 👇

[@archrono]

LOL

[@NinetyEight418]

This is truly an arcane odyssey..

[@Whitesalmnder.]

Why’s his water magic red

[@FashyonDemon]

ARCANE ODYSSEY!!!!!!!!❤

[@silveonnecro]

Lets just admit. Femsell is a little child that probably not over 16 yr old. The true reason of toxicity is those little kids and PVP. Kids are not mature enough to admit their defeats, and instead of rethinking their own setbacks or improving their own skills, they go and cry in discord servers about AO being bad game, puking with their toxicity everywhere. And then they making the most meta build of all times, but suddenly it gets nerfed and here we go again. Crying... again.... Yes, AO is not a perfect game for PVP, and probably would never be perfectly balanced. (Who would've thought lol). And if you are not fine with that, leave AO and never come back again.

[@silveonnecro]

Also i agree in the part about testers. Sometimes u just wonder how did this happen? And how did they let it through.

[@scriptabledrawing7773]

Tbh Femsell trying to argue about testers seemed a little incoherent and not well thought out. I think that while the balancing of the game in PVP is not the best, it certainly isn't the worst either. I main a balanced savant (70 stats in everything), and although the stat dist is terrible, it isn't terribly weak (for pve and PVP), meaning that the balancing is fair. If I did the same thing in bloxfruits, it would probably not end well

[@silveonnecro]

@@scriptabledrawing7773 Oh my, fellow savant main! U got my respect buddy. Though i think that u need to use 100magic 120strenght 50weapons. (That way u would get all main skills that u might need)

[@skyeaternus282]

Dawg nobody plays Arcane Odyssey, stop clinging to it.

[@RayaneJspVoila]

okay skyeaternus282

[@modnik1388]

if i were to want to be a tester, what would i need to do? do i just need to get lucky and be friends with vetex or what?

[@Selectorch]

do something notable in community

[@titanz7551]

@@Selectorch That's so vague tho... what does that mean exactly? You said being active on the discord isn't a good metric... so what is? The fact of the matter is some people just don't wanna test the game. And some people are willing to. What happened to tester apps and all that? We haven't had one in so long.

[@titanz7551]

@@Selectorch I have a pretty ass PC. I struggle to hold like 30 fps constant on the game. Optimization has been complained about... I've had to do so much research and modding on blox strap just for the game to be barely playable. What is being done about this...? I worry that as more content is added the window to fix this problem closes more and more. Do I really have to buy a full almost 1000 dollar at the minimum setup just to have a decent experience at the game?

[@RayaneJspVoila]

@@titanz7551 isn't that roblox fault ? it would take a lot of time for him to actually fix the optimization with the prehistorical system of roblox. beetween i am playing on a laptop and with bloxstrap the game isn't really laggy exepct when mage spam huge aoe attack for fun

[@gunk7014]

you sound like sonic the hedgehog

[@Selectorch]

how

[@Biggest_Mike24]

bro was NOT onto something 💀💀💀

[@itsphnix9151]

The update was horrible it was so little

[@i_Sep]

what makes one cool

[@iamwiserthanmasteryod]

why did u bash me in your stream i wanna report you...

[@rjun143]

only clicked on the video because of marcille, ao is mid

[@RayaneJspVoila]

ok rjun143

[@ThijsVanAmstel]

weirdo

[@mist2961]

40 minutes...

[@Mindplayz35]

yep you're banned XD

[@doctorburhanakhtar]

frfr

[@inject2433]

anime girl!!!