I tried to put TWO vintage Celerons in one PC

[@LGR]

That slick burl wood finish fits the ostentatious golden sheetmetal perfectly. Simultaneously classy and sleazy - like if there’s any system that demands a 5.25” drive bay cigarette lighter, this is it!

[@Toonrick12]

Oh hush.

[@godzzwrath]

@@Toonrick12 let the man SPEAK..!!!

[@VictorNelvanaShows]

Tell me about it. It so cool to have a PC case from that company.

[@netkilrblx]

@@godzzwrath let him COOK..!!!

[@austinkoeppen6122]

The guy that bought it originally definitely drove a Jaguar.

[@WiltshireTutorials]

That LGR woodgrain cameo was a nice touch!

[@louistournas120]

I hope LGR doesn't sue us for watching this video.

[@JuanPablo-ho7fg]

I didn't expect that LGR crossover

[@Thiesi]

C(o)lin[t] FTW!

[@vladimirsavkovic7701]

There can only be one to crossover with where woodgrain, particularly on a PC case, is concerned...

[@reuploadify]

What LGR crossover? That's Colin speaking.

[@CraftComputing]

I LOVE that orange and woodgrain look on the PC60. Never seen that before.

[@VictorNelvanaShows]

So do I! I wish I have enough money to buy beige boxes now.

[@charlesseyle7784]

The front panel connectors trouble me to this day. Lian Li solved that problem decades ago and I learned about it in this video.

[@ToTheGAMES]

We have the F_CONNECTOR now though. Or do you mean just the extension bit? Because, it might be nice, but its proprietary and seem like the think that's easily lost. :)

[@Perchanceexposer]

25$????????????????????????????????????????????? holy shit, what a bargain, i'm jealous. Vintage Lian Li is to die for.

[@masejoer]

Especially cases that aren't all bent and scraped up...I'd love to have a couple mint cases today.

[@KyleBrightman]

I don’t think I’ll ever give up my Lian Li PC-7B

[@BurritoVampire]

That was an amazing voice transform from Clint back to you! Bravo!

[@camjohnson2004]

Ok so here's a workaround for you for your Celeron 300A SMP option. the Celeron 300A came in both Slot 1 AND Socket 370 configurations. See if you can track down 2x 300A S370 CPU's. Then you can also locate 2 Slotket adapters that have the SMP override on them, allowing the 300A to work in Dual CPU config.

[@wotsac]

I think that was the configuration I ran for a couple years. I definitely have never had the dexterity to do anything more than the most minimal mods, and I definitely didn't have the budget for real P2 chips

[@nexxusty]

Celeron 300a absolutely did not come in anything but Slot 1 format.

[@ApemanMonkey]

​@@nexxusty source?

[@sergiojacas8268]

@@nexxusty There is an article in Anandtech from 1999 that describes a socket 370 mod to an adapter to a Celeron 300A . So while extremely rare they existed

[@mirek190]

@@ApemanMonkey I also remember celerom 300a was only on slot and actually very short time because was without a cache l2. Just soon after were introduced with a cache.

[@redroC171]

yet another comment about the LGR cameo to help drive engagement and keep the algo happy

[@centermass4552]

My God, that case is glorious. Needs an avocado green accent stripe, though. Makes you want to put in some shag carpet, one of those gigantic wood encased console TVs with an Audio Technica Hamburger and youre good to go.

[@adey88splace]

I remember one customer coming with dual socket 370 celerons. ABit BP6 I think was the mobo. Somehow one of the techs got it going in dual cpu mode. It was a lot of fun getting that thing to boot.

[@phydiux]

I had an Abit BP6 wiith Dual Celeron 400mhz processors back in 1999. I remember it being a fantastic machine.

[@toddmcquiston5997]

@@phydiuxI had a BP6 with dual C-466’s and Windows 2k. It was a beast.

[@SVSky]

I had a BP6 as well. In fact I think I had four. Made great living room servers.

[@lemagreengreen]

That was BP6's party trick, did it out of the box. Intel were probably quite unhappy! actually I know they were, that board is legendary.

[@robsquared2]

I have 5 Lian Li cases from the late 2000s era and 1 of them, a mini ATX is even red. I desperately want a mid or full tower red case.

[@yesterdaysjam2405]

That dust filter was more dust than filter. I really like old Lian Li cases, that colour is gorgeous

[@andrewb9830]

That's why the BP6 was such a game changer for desktop power users on a budget when it arrived on the scene.

[@LabCat]

Mmmm... dual socket 370.... yum

[@justincase9471]

I still keep my BP6 in a special place, somewhere in a box waiting for new caps.😅

[@Laynix.0]

I have the black version of that case that I've had since it was new. That one is so amazing. You're lucky to have found it!

[@AmEv7fam]

I genuinely couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not with the hard drive, but given how Samsung is also a Korean company, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung bought Trigen and/or its designs Edit: spoke too soon

[@harritdevries928]

It is a rebranded Samsung drive.

[@Cacodemonia]

I'm sure at least 90% of viewers thought of LGR when we saw that woodgrain trim. The cameo was indeed a nice touch.

[@nbrowser]

Opens with B roll of the legendary Celeron 300A...man those things were the thing back in the way. Overclockable to the Nth degree. A true value king.

[@volvo09]

I wanted one of those back in the day... I could only get an extra 50mhz out of my K6-2 and that just wasn't cool 😢

[@StevenLeung101]

The LGR soundbite was funny

[@nikolaszisoudis8408]

That HDD looks similar to same period Samsung drives...

[@sluxi]

My thought too, used to own a 60GB drive Samsung with that shape IIRC. would have been nice to cut to a photo of one when he said he can't quite put his finger on it. :P

[@tennickjestzajety69]

because it is Samsung drive, "SV" in model name = Samsung Voyager line

[@GuillermoFrontera]

@@tennickjestzajety69 Absolutely. I had a 6.4 GB is exactly identical.

[@denniskubik7360]

Back then, Celeron 300A and especially the 366A had to come from the factory in Malaysia. The CPUs manufactured in the Costa Rica factory could not be overclocked stably. The Celeron 366A had 550Mhz, - often up to 600!! “Made in Malaysia” had to be written on the CPU,- that was the key. However, most Celeron A were manufactured in Malaysia at the time, only a few in Costa Rica.

[@AmirRazan]

I'm from Malaysia. Even though this is something miniscule, I'm still proud anyways 🇲🇾 🫡

[@mdinelle]

That's what i wanted to mention. When these CPUs hit the market back in the day, I used to work in a computer shop. We would cherry pick our CPU from the bulk package the store would receive to make sure we had a Malaysian made version that was super stable at 450mhz. Ran mine on an Abit BH6 motherboard. That was an awesome overclocking feat for the time period.

[@eddiehimself]

The PC-60 is a beautiful PC case indeed. I work for a not-for-profit organisation that we're trying to make into the British version of FreeGeek, and I got one for free when I first started volunteering there in 2021 :)

[@Biaanca5036]

it doesn't _have_ to be rare though 😁 Some good high-res photos here and there, and some keen eyes it could be cloned. It just looks like a dummy board with resistors

[@tadeustad]

Nice Lian Li case, I have got a mini-tower variant of that one, and I have to say, it has this kind of a timeless look :) As for the TriGem drive, the part number looks identical to those used on a Samsung drives of the era, so indeed it's a rebadge (fitting, as it's Korean too) On a side note, it's amusing to see infamous AMI WinBIOS on such late motherboard, I never knew it was used on any Slot 1 system!

[@Toby_Q]

Before the "TriGem" even came into view, my mind went to Samsung based on the curves of the drive alone.

[@yeninja]

Honestly based on how the trigem hdd was designed, I thought it was a rebadged Samsung as well, the shape looked suspiciously like the 80gb drive in both my og Xbox that I modded and my pentium 4 pc which runs Ms dos, windows xp and windows 7

[@RyanCribari]

I had dual slot 1 P3 500s. And then later dual socket 370 P3 1000s. I don't remember ever seeing any significant gains in games because almost none could take advantage of it. But watching a movie on a second monitor while playing a game on the primary worked well.

[@enilenis]

Done this as far back as 1999. The dual processor mod didn't require such sophistication, though I was doing it on 233MHz Celerons. Maybe they were simpler than the 300A that I never owned. Drilling one of the pins out and linking a PCB sub-layer to one of the processor pins was all that was needed, but required more precision than your average de-lidding. I still have paper printouts of all the instructions somewhere. I haven't done this mod in 25 years. For the motherboard I used ASUS P2B-DS. Best one I ever owned. Still have it. Modded to the gills. When it released, the box said 233-450MHz P2, as that was all that existed at the time of manufacture. Towards the end of life, it was possible to run it with dual 1GHz P3's.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

Those plastic clips were the Achilles Heel of early 2000s Lian-Li cases. The 300a clocked to 450 MHz won in a number of benchmarks due to its full speed 128KB cache while the Pentium II's 512KB cache ran at half speed. Hence the Celeron was preferable for applications that benefitted from cache speed and the Pentium II 450 was preferable for applications that benefitted from cache capacity, such as office and productivity, from what I recall.

[@outaspaceman]

Shame about LGR’s “shednado” 😕 Hope everything dries up soon..👍

[@stinkertonsden]

The Lian-Li case was a game changer back in the early 2000s. When our options were the standard beige box, the amazingly capable Antec SX1030b, then Lian-Li came around and set the new bar. It was light-weight, helped dissipate heat without needing horribly loud Delta fans, and still looked sharp.

[@onutaoyusao]

They still look sharp today, my Plex server is sitting in a wheeled black PC-A71F and it would still blend nicely with todays cases that aren't entirely glass.

[@retrogear]

I’ve done the dual Celeron mods that you found and it works fine. I ran dual 300A as my router for a couple of years. I might have a pair of matching Celerons still - reach out if you like.

[@p_mouse8676]

I used to have a later Celeron 667Mhz, that easily did 1050Mhz! I think it even could do better, but I was hitting the limitations of the motherboard. Still regret getting rid of that system 😢😢

[@godzzwrath]

i was watching you take apart the case and thought "huh, that inside looks familiar" went searching around and found out my first pc (circa 2008) was in a lian li case :) its the PC-K58 for anyone wondering. they really are great cases, even when theyre ugly. i still have the goober in all its under-powered glory

[@NikhilRamkarran]

Goodness, I built 2 PCs in that LianLi model case. A black and a silver I think. I never knew copper with plastic burl was a possibility. This was before easy availability of floppy and cdrom drives in black. I spray painted mine. Thanks for that bit of nostalgia.

[@nzwedjat]

I did the mod back in the day, we needed a cheap SMP MSSQL box. I brought 3 x 300A's, a spare in case I broke one, broke none, the system went like hell at dual 450, even with the smaller cache. Drilling out the pin was nerve racking!

[@Hurriedimpgames]

As soon as I saw the woodgrain on the case my mind immediately went, "LGR Would approve"

[@wettuga2762]

That Lian Li case is beautiful, gold on black looks awesome! I would love to own a dual P3 board to have as a retro Windows 98 / 2000 gaming machine, as long as it had 133 Mhz FSB and at least 1 ISA slot.

[@thedungeondelver]

So regarding that FX card - if you want to run period-accurate 3dfx accelerated games, you can always run with a GLide wrapper. You've got enough CPU oomph and VRAM to do so.

[@ngeejee]

If my memories serves me right, P2 have cache that runs at half bus speed, celeries had cache that runs at full bus speed. That is why an equally clocked P2 is outrun by a celerie. And that is also why P3 at the same clock beats the celeries with full bus speed cache and bigger cache.

[@ellipticalsoul]

The case is absolutely sick, I’d use it for my main PC today if I had one. Always wanted a Lian Li back in the day but so expensive

[@PrinceWesterburg]

Whata trip down memory lane! I had two machines running SL32A 300As and one ran at 450mhz, the other at 504mhz. You won't get the Costa Rican ones running that fast, you need the Malaysian version. The Celeron is a cut down version of the Xeon and thus it scores over the PII in two ways, firstly they left the heat shunts in the processor so it can dissipate more heat and secondly the cache RAM is on the processor dye which has cooling, if you look at the PII the cache chips are off to the side, the heat sink doesn't touch them and they run at the buss speed, not the CPU speed! I can't believe this was somethign like 25 years ago, wow, where did the time go?

[@Zerbey]

Never tried SMP with two Celerons, but I acquired a HP Kayak workstation that accepted two PIIIs and ran it for almost a decade as my file server. If you ever get two 300As and want to risk the mod, I'd definitely like to see that!

[@OldMan_PJ]

The worst processor I ever owned was a slot Celeron. Regardless of what heatsink and fan combo I used it would overheat when playing games.

[@Simon-ui6db]

I though Clint would like that case, didn't expect his voice at the time. lol.

[@jguo]

Another great video! I actually had an SMP setup in the late 90s with 2x Celeron 400A overclocked to 500. I had an Epox 440BX motherboard and I built that system after a month's frustration with AMD's first Athlon dreaded compatibility and stability issues. Anyways, I got around the Slot 1 SMP limitation by having 2x iWill Solt 1 to Socket 370 adapter board. Also since 440BX does not support ATA-66, I had an iWill apapter card and ran 2x IBM glass "death star" HDDs in RAID 0. GPU was the original GeForce 256. From memory, the frame rate was better than dorm mate's Pentium III 500 (Slot 1) with the same GPU. Anyways, I am pretty sure you can work around the Slot 1 limitation by adapting Socket 370 CPUs and it would also be period correct. I also ran Windows 2000 BTW.

[@mirage809]

What's better than one CPU that punches well above its weight? Two of course! Dual CPUs come with similar problems as running two GPUs. Stuff can very easily get thrown out of sync or become unstable, assuming it's even supported. Also, HI CLINT!

[@bryans8656]

I've never used such a well thought out case. Worth every penny.

[@charleshines2142]

About that terminator card. I would put that in an antistatic bag taped to the top of the inside of the case. If not in the case, a place where I will always be able to find it. It is an odd card and might be difficult to find a replacement for. It would also be a surprise of Supermicro still had any left in their warehouse.

[@SalvoDan]

IIRC there was a Tyan Tiger motherboard that had native SMP support for dual Celerons. It was a unicorn motherboard that we used to dream of when we used BeOS.

[@RC-nq7mg]

This brought back memories. I ran a dual cpu PII 450 on a similar board and in a nearly identical case with the pull out motherboard tray, running win 2k. My case was beige.

[@dabombinablemi6188]

Samsung really did make the best HDD in the late 90's/early 2000's. I own several, and my oldest example (10GB 5400RPM V1020 - stated in the redhill guide as 2000's drive of the year) has lower seek latency than either of my SATA or IDE Seagate Barracuda 7200.7, meaning that any OS installed feels really responsive. Unfortunately you'll need a board such as the Abit BP6 and a pair of the rather rare S370 Celeron 300A. However I have found with my Intel SE440BX-2 that a Celeron 500 (slotket) has the same performance as a Celeron 450A.

[@sandmanxo]

I have the brushed stainless steel version of that Lian Li case, and good to see that you can 3d print the clips, they broke over a decade ago. The 300a for the most part was dead simple to get to 464mhz on moat boards. I had an Abit board where I could do it in the bios, and ran it 24/7 for a couple of years until I upgraded it with a Slocket to a 1ghz p3(the 100mhz fsb part) then ran that at 1030mhz for a couple more years.

[@Uploadingvirus]

back in the 2000s my friend who had a silver Lian Li case spent a lot of time disassembling the faceplates on his optical drives and spray painting them silver to match.

[@orektez]

the bus speed increase also probably helped the gpu, i also tend to use pc133 sdram when overclocking older computers since the ram runs at the same clock as the bus.

[@glhughes]

This brings back memories. I had a dual Celeron 300A back in college, overclocked (~450MHz; might have been 433/475). My CPUs were PGA (not the daughter card versions you have). It wasn't the fastest CPU at the time (clock and cache were behind the P2/3) but OMG having *two* cores in your personal rig was unbelievable. I still remember setting up Slackware on that thing late one night and losing my mind over not being able to set the clock to the right time. The DST changeover was that night so when I set the computer's clock to what was shown on my watch it came back an hour off. That one took me a while to figure out (I was pretty tired). Not sure what happened to that thing. Probably handed off to my brother or dad when I moved away after college.

[@splendidescapist301]

I had a Lian-Li PC-62 back in the day. That was my upgrade from an Antec full tower. The PC-62 was an extended depth PC-60. I thought it would offer better cooling performance. That was a great case. It was silver though. In answer to your question on faceplates, the answer there was drives that had swappable ones, and some automotive spray paint.

[@Choralone422]

As the current owner of a Lian Li Lancool 215 case I can attest to how good many of their cases are! Despite the color of that case it's amazing! I would love to have one just like it even today! I've been on the lookout for a cheap old tower case with the PSU located on top like that for a 2nd DAS box for my TrueNAS server. Also, dual CPUs like this were something I REALLY wanted back then even if there wasn't a lot of software that could take good advantage of 2 CPUs at that time.

[@37Kilo2]

2000s Lian Li cases are incredible. There were so many models I wanted, but couldn't quite afford back then. I do have a full tower from 06 that I refuse to part with, though.

[@customfreak81]

I've got a black pc60 stashed away for when I finally build my home server, it was my main pc for years, they are really nice to build in.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

For a technical explanation on the 100 MHz-bus-upgraded Celeron versus a "true blue" Pentium II at the same speed - the only real differences were that the Celeron-A had a full-speed 128 KB Level 2 cache on the CPU die; where the Pentium II had 512 KB of Level 2 cache running at 1/2 CPU speed as separate chips on the Slot-1 card. While more L2 cache is generally better, having it on-die and full speed more than makes up for it in many circumstances. So a 450 MHz Celeron versus a 450 MHz Pentium II - in many workloads, the Celeron would beat the P2 because of the faster cache. Only in cases where the cache being smaller was a major component did the P2 do better. (That's also one reason Intel kept the Celerons at a lower bus speed for so long - to purposefully hamper their performance so as not to compete with P2/P3. Also why Celeron didn't move to the P3 core until quite a bit later.) One big thing about "dual Celerons" - the shown dual-socket board was released when *ONLY* Celeron's were available on Socket 370! When it came out, it was purely a "run dual Celerons against Intel's wishes" motherboard. Pentium III hadn't yet come out in Socket 370. And by the time it did, humorously you had to modify the P3 to get it to run on that board!

[@PaulHindt]

I bought a similar new-old-stock Enermax Noisetaker recently and it was toast straight outta the box. You got lucky there.

[@ricktanner6968]

The 3.5 bay can hold a HD, but then there is no air flow or cooling. The HD cage is where the HDs are best located. That way the front fans can cool the drives and the dust sponge would help keep things cleaner. Unfortunately, that filter has exceeded its life span.

[@Eyetrauma]

Man, seeing the 2K UI again was like a breath of fresh air.

[@JORGETECHJorge]

That TriGem hard disk drive looks really similar to an old Samsung HDD I have, so it's very possible it was OEM from Samsung. EDIT: I see you were able to confirm this in the end, thank you for showing us!

[@123maiji]

Samsung literally means “three stars” in Korean, so I guess “Tri” Gen might be their rebrand for the western market.

[@shokuninstudio]

I had that motherboard. I won a little money on the lottery and built myself a dual Pentium II system. Was a very happy 23 year old with a free workstation.

[@ricktanner6968]

Lian Li also had 3.5bay face plates with all the necessary cutout to perfectly accommodate the floppy disk and eject button. They came in colors to match the case - polished aluminum, brushed aluminum, black, this lovely copper/gold - maybe more. But these were the only ones I had seen.

[@SeishukuS12]

I don't recall that color being an option on the PC60, that's pretty sweet... I had a black one back in the day, I wouldn't mind doing a modern system in one, they're awesome cases.

[@GJR44]

0:37 oh no the poor motherboard got them blanchardist brainworms, poor girl...

[@virtuserable]

2:41 - You've got a case of the Clint....

[@TheKnifed]

The last computer I ran that came from the garbage was a dual Pentium 3 500 or 600, I believe they were socket to processors, and the tower was almost 3 ft tall. I rocked that set up for a long time playing Half-Life One games like hldm and tfc.

[@brandonupchurch7628]

This case would have also been a golden opportunity to add a clip of 3DGameMan "the motherboard tray is removable"

[@ytfeelslikenorthkorea]

wait what? SMP on Celerons? Was that ever a possibility? I thought it required full PII

[@Chinco_NL]

Man, that brings back memories. I hated the Soundblaster Live forever after they refused to release drivers for the next version of Windows, but boy, I loved that card before that.

[@BurleyBoar]

This is the case I wanted and could not afford as a recent college grad back in the day. I would loved the BP6 I had to put in this case. Thank you to my friend John who sold it to me cheap because he could not get it stable at full load for hours on end due to the under-rated cap error. Thanks for the video. Can't wait to see the dual processor benches and build.

[@ChrisCebelenski]

I had a similar system in this era with two Pentium 3 500's, OC'd to 733 Mhz, which they did with ease. That was my main machine for awhile, well past when it was time to upgrade (Pentium 4? Ugh!) until the machine was killed by an electrical storm. It wasn't until the Core 2 duo era that we saw multi-core systems get popular.

[@DatBlueHusky]

also would love to see you do more dual cpu stuff, i always been into them and have alot of dual socket boards that ive come by

[@AmirRazan]

Hello, Protogen! 👋 Imagine Colin knows people like us Furries watch his videos LOL

[@ricktanner6968]

Lian Li had face place components to "hide" the optical drive. It looked all the rest of the face plates and would open when the "cup holder" would eject.

[@prozzac85]

Later Celerons are also fun to play with. I have a Celeron 533 on a slotket adaptor in my W98 pc, and it runs happily at 800MHz. More than enough power to get the most out of the Voodoo3 3000 I have in there with it.

[@shantanugadgil]

TriGem HDD looks _exactly_ like a Samsung HDD. Samsung HDD used to come with over-the-counter replacement warranty for bad sectors, so I have a quite few of them!

[@Dex99SS]

Back in the day I'd built an Abit BP6 dual socket 370 celeron based rig, both overclocked and water cooled all the way back then. Waay before AIOs.. using transmission coolers, surgical tubing, aquarium pumps, etc. Then later (and again recently in a retro build), an Abit VP6 with the later Coppermine based Celerons, then later P3's (this latest time around just getting to the P3s), again overclocked and water cooled (back then, these days its air cooling and stock speeds). Ran Win2K back then as well, had a benchtop power supply that ran the pump, peltiers, fans, etc. Had a multiple stage startup process, enabling cooling, then the computer, lol.... Was a very cool kid. lolol.... But yeah, there were benefits for sure, things ran MUCH faster... and, I'd crossed the 1Ghz threshold well before chips were officially there (with both cpus no less, so that was pretty dang neat). Taking 2x coppermine 700Mhz celerons and bumping them both up, running with ridiculous uptime too, even with all that early watercooling. They'd even build up ice, but of course that condensation was distilled and non conductive, and never really got out of control. It all balanced out pretty well, though if you did need to shut it down, it would have to defrost / thaw, and have a bit of cleanup happen before running again. But that thing would just run, while I was in school and all... I could remote into it from my tech (was in cisco lab in the votech with my school funded custom build clear PC, with a single OC celeron, watercooled, frozen, lol)... we'd play UT, Q3, Worms, etc in that lab with all the networked machines... they financed my build as a showpiece thing... to get other kids interested when they toured the school. One of those, "you could end up making something like this" kinda things. I often wonder what happened to it, surely like most old tech, it was seen as worthless at some point and just tossed. But yeah... these were the best of days. I can remember sitting in my bedroom, next to that window... computer desk in front of me, full tower next to me, custom yellow paint (painted via my dad and me at his jobs HVLP paint booth), cooling tower next to it, downloading games from Game Revolution (demos), or using FTP servers to, well... you know. I had Win2K afterall, lol. . . Oh the good ol days indeed.

[@gameboy881]

Back in the days I built my Abit BP6 dual celebrant 300A system. I modded the CPUs using badge wire, masking tape and drill, it works like a charm at 504mhz, good hacking memories….

[@Rabbit_AF]

I was going to say Cyrix socket 370s couldn't run in dual CPUs, so I was surprised slot 1 Celerons can. I have a Sossaman Xeon Super Micro board with 2X T2500 (ES) CPUs in it. It's a cool board. I just don't know what to do with it exactly.

[@mhyzon1]

I’m pretty sure I did this back in the day on a Tuan motherboard for my college radio station so we could webcast. Needed all the performance we could get on a budget to encode to 128kbit MP3 in real-time. I thought there was a way to enable 300A smp by cutting a trace or putting kapton tape over one of the card edge connector contacts. But maybe I’m misremembering

[@Zaitz]

I follow your videos and I like it a lot, and I have to agrader for adding the audio track "Portuguese Brazil". Thanks.

[@tmbrwn]

"nice case" - damn right. I've been using Lian Li cases for the last 20 years, and they've never let me down. Nearly everything else about PC building has been terrible, but Lian Li cases are consistently good, even now.

[@andrewhofmann5453]

I was impressed the inside of the case edges had edge guards. The real cheap cases back then were stamped steel and were almost razor sharp. When I worked as a bench tech back then, I could count on cutting my hands on them at least twice a week.

[@devil5051000]

Still have my 20 year old PC70 Lian Li case and will not switch it against anything new soon. There is simply sooo much space inside. Had all sorts of high end GPUs in the past and not one of them was too long for that case. :) Also space for six harddisks and 9 external bays. Why don´t modern cases have that anymore? Fishtanks are looking good, but try to install your BluRay-burner into one. ^^ The plastic clips became brittle and the front panel was no longer holding. Luckily I found replacement parts for 3d printing, had to hone them down a bit after printing, but now the front panel is rock solid attached to the case like on the day I bought it. No cablemanagement, no place for watercooling and also only 80mm fans. Okay, it is old. And I have a perfect excuse why I have a rats nest in my computer.

[@doink_v]

If you want to know more about the Socket 370 dual Celeron story, look up Cathode Ray Dude. He did a video on the Abit BP6 and showcased what people actually did with a consumer-centric dual CPU PC at the time. It wasn't so much about getting better performance in games, as much as it was about doing more things at once. Quake III ends up being unplayable when you enable that SMP flag.

[@HähnchenPaul]

This made my Friday!

[@ozzelot3349]

The Trigem drive is very Samsung-shaped.

[@GruntUltra]

Before my friend passed, he gave me a bunch of his unused pc stuff, including an unused PC-8B Lian-Li case. It’s my daily driver now. I did put a 120mm exhaust fan on top and a 200mm intake on the side first. It’s a beautiful black case, but over time, it develops little rattles that I have to adjust.

[@FinicalAmoeba]

I did the mod to a pair of 300As back in the day (at 450MHz), though I don't recall which board, it was 25 or so years ago! Windows 2000 saw both cpus, but as my main use was games and they were all single threaded at the time (and many wouldn't work on NT based systems anyway), it was all academic and I ended up using Windows 98 and just one cpu.

[@sergioizzisavona8365]

The advantage of the celeron A series was that the cache, though much smaller than regular Pentium 2's and 3's, ran at full processor speed, whereas on the p2's and 3's ran at (my memory is falling me) half or third the processor speed. I have very fond memories of a celeron 400(s370) which I had stably over clocked to nearly 500mhz paired with a geforce Ti4600. 😢 Those were the times

[@HamburgerAmy]

you should look into replacing the clock crystals on motherboards, you can unlock gnarly amounts of stable overclocks

[@daemonspudguy]

Cathode Ray Dude built a dual-Celeron PC recently, using an Abit BP6 motherboard.

[@JoshNotJohn0]

I always wondered how well a dual processor system using Pentium 3s wouldve held up in say, the XP or 7 days, but i never expected it could happen with the pentium 2 of all things!

[@stonent]

That TriGem HDD has a Samsung part number on it. (Edit: Looks like you figured that out later)

[@mackal]

Lian Li used that tooling for AGES. I have a case that's basically the same thing, just newer lol

[@keithsweat7513]

Thats a sweet case in a 1970's style Marantz receiver style... But seriously aluminum and modular with thumb screws is awesome today!

[@bcastromusic]

I still remember overclocking the Celeron 300 to 450MHz very easily w/ 440BX mobo for my music computer. It was very stable and I was able to run 3 to 4 dozen audio tracks and MIDI etc.. in Cubase VST 3.7. Wrote lots of electronic music... ambient trance and trance before it morphed from underground hypnotic music to what people consider it today and before the annoying term EDM :)